VirtualInsanity
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Um no. Hell has a speshal place for you Gems. You guys are no where near similar to Taurus!! Except for the men. All cheaters tbh.
You don't seem to understand.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zp4fvcw
May 15 till June 21: born under Taurus.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zp4fvcw
May 15 till June 21: born under Taurus.
Well you're a Gimini Sun bc the sun was in Gemini when you were born, according to the Babylonians and it was when they thought it up. But the sun was actually in Taurus when you were born, so you should be a Taurus Sun. The placements changed and astrology never corrected it.
But thanks for that very nice addition.
But thanks for that very nice addition.
I don't get the problem. (iq 94)
If the Sun was observed to be in this window of sky:
when I was born, does anything else matter? if the astrologers lie about where Sun is, won't astronoms protest?
I watched a few videos at youtube about precession, the great year, galactic clock, and the great Sun. I got the impression that the knowledge about precession is still growing. and currently a little mixed with theories. of course not the geometrical part.
If the Sun was observed to be in this window of sky:
when I was born, does anything else matter? if the astrologers lie about where Sun is, won't astronoms protest?
I watched a few videos at youtube about precession, the great year, galactic clock, and the great Sun. I got the impression that the knowledge about precession is still growing. and currently a little mixed with theories. of course not the geometrical part.
Posted by VirtualInsanity Any thoughts on how we lived this lie all our lives and will this change your personality?Well......the Babylonians were a smart bunch. They saw two types of Taurii--the slow, stable herd that liked to scratch their backs in the mud, and the herd that was obviously looking to pull one over on the farmer. The former they gave all the creature comforts to. The latter......cattle prods and the slaughterhouse. Mmmmm, steak.....
look at the equator
I meant tropical.
there are 88 constallations:
only 12-13 of them are very close to the ecliptic plane (of sun and planets). and are relevant for a tropical view.
only 12-13 of them are very close to the ecliptic plane (of sun and planets). and are relevant for a tropical view.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveDepending on which date you were born the sun would've been in Scorpio, Ophiucus or Sagittarius (19th, 20th and 21st of December). So unless you were born those 3 days the sun wasn't observed in that window of sky. That's the thing. You as a Sag have the possibility of still being a Sag, but us Gemini are Tauri since the sun in reality is in Taurus for the whole periode it is supposed to be in Gemini according to astrology.
I don't get the problem. (iq 94)
If the Sun was observed to be in this window of sky:
when I was born, does anything else matter? if the astrologers lie about where Sun is, won't astronoms protest?
And astronomers do. That's how I found out about this
I'll look at your videos later.
Take that back
The twins can't be a T Man.
Posted by SewerRat89Well it's not that Gemini is Taurus, it's that the people who think they're Gemini are actually Taurus. If you think you're a Taurus you're actually an Aries, with a small chance of being a Taurus. Someone who supposedly is a Gemini has no chance of being a Gemini though, the sun's in Taurus the whole time during Gemini's supposed reign.
The twins can't be a T Man.
I understand.
The twins (Gemini) can't be a T (Man) Taurus Man
Rats.
The twins (Gemini) can't be a T (Man) Taurus Man
Rats.
Posted by SewerRat89Indeed, Gemini can't be Tauri. But seeing as we're all born between the 21st of May and the 21st of June and the sun's in Taurus from the 15th of May till the 21st of June we're Tauri instead of Gemini.
I understand.
The twins (Gemini) can't be a T (Man) Taurus Man
Rats.
I'll have to apply for a Taurus membership card now. 😢
Posted by VirtualInsanityFuck. I love Gemini. I am going to miss you.Posted by SewerRat89Indeed, Gemini can't be Tauri. But seeing as we're all born between the 21st of May and the 21st of June and the sun's in Taurus from the 15th of May till the 21st of June we're Tauri instead of Gemini.
I understand.
The twins (Gemini) can't be a T (Man) Taurus Man
Rats.
I'll have to apply for a Taurus membership card now. 😢click to expand
Posted by SewerRat89Well I suppose that Cancers would be the real Gemini.Posted by VirtualInsanityFuck. I love Gemini. I am going to miss you.Posted by SewerRat89Indeed, Gemini can't be Tauri. But seeing as we're all born between the 21st of May and the 21st of June and the sun's in Taurus from the 15th of May till the 21st of June we're Tauri instead of Gemini.
I understand.
The twins (Gemini) can't be a T (Man) Taurus Man
Rats.
I'll have to apply for a Taurus membership card now. 😢click to expand
uh. even worse
Interesting. Seeing I have NOT ONE taurus trait...
This will be my new research project! And, believe me, I will not leave one page un-clicked, nor un-turned. (Gem traits with cancer determination... Lol)
This will be my new research project! And, believe me, I will not leave one page un-clicked, nor un-turned. (Gem traits with cancer determination... Lol)
Yeah, good idea, cause I'm a bit confused about it myself. On the BBC website it says that Gemini are actually Tauri, but in both videos Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye say Scorpios are actually Libras, so that would make Gemini Cancers than? 😕
Posted by VirtualInsanityPosted by DwellingOnMoveDepending on which date you were born the sun would've been in Scorpio, Ophiucus or Sagittarius (19th, 20th and 21st of December). So unless you were born those 3 days the sun wasn't observed in that window of sky. That's the thing. You as a Sag have the possibility of still being a Sag, but us Gemini are Tauri since the sun in reality is in Taurus for the whole periode it is supposed to be in Gemini according to astrology.
I don't get the problem. (iq 94)
If the Sun was observed to be in this window of sky:
when I was born, does anything else matter? if the astrologers lie about where Sun is, won't astronoms protest?
And astronomers do. That's how I found out about this
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Your video only confirms what one can smell from your first post.
It is for sure not representing "astronomers". It is representing the anti-astrologers.
If astronomers wanted to correct the astrologers about the assignment of the Taurus window of sky to the time where calendar says it is 21 of May to 2x of June, they have done it already. And a person like me would have never invested one more minute with Astrology.
The same for Moon placements.
Posted by DwellingOnMove
there are 88 constallations:
only 12-13 of them are very close to the ecliptic plane (of sun and planets). and are relevant for a tropical view.
Maybe we should start at clarifying how big those zodiac walls are around us?
Are Moon, Earth and Sun flies comparing to the size of one constallation (e.g. Gemini)?
What it is that you can use these constalations in the video above (from a tropical view) and in the video below(where the N-S-axis points to)
Posted by DwellingOnMove
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in the latter video where are the constallations? in the wall around the solar system? or in the part above it? where the circle is drawing?
You people have too much free time on your hands.
the better question is why don't we give power to the other constallations? Look at 00:45 in this video:
could it be because the twelve we took are together in a chain from a tropical view? something like a belt around us? or walls?
could it be because the twelve we took are together in a chain from a tropical view? something like a belt around us? or walls?
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist...? And director of the Hayden planetarium. He's credited for demoting Pluto. :')
The second video (the link below the vid) is Bill Nye, THE science guy? :p
The second video (the link below the vid) is Bill Nye, THE science guy? :p
If this picture is right, then my tropical view will not change if the the axis vertical to it make a deviation of 30 degree from its former place.
I also doubt the BBC has some kind of agenda, unlike American broacasters where sponsors get to choose what information gets dispersed the BBC is funded by the government.
It's got me confused, but that doesn't mean anyone of those 3 would have an astrology bashing campaign going on whenever their purpose is to educate.
It's got me confused, but that doesn't mean anyone of those 3 would have an astrology bashing campaign going on whenever their purpose is to educate.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveIdk. That's why I created a thread. Cause I've known for a few weeks already.
If this picture is right, then my tropical view will not change if the the axis vertical to it make a deviation of 30 degree from its former place.
Posted by VirtualInsanity
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist...? And director of the Hayden planetarium. He's credited for demoting Pluto. :')
The second video (the link below the vid) is Bill Nye, THE science guy? :p
you don't get the point. this reminds me the battles between those who believe in a creature and those who not.
The communities of astronomers can correct the claims of the astrologers regarding that the Sun was in the given sign in the give time span. They do not do it.
If I wanted to be doubtful, I'd ask : maybe astrologers changed the traits descriptions for signs about 2000 years ago. ( 1-2-3-4 hunderds year after they found the description does not match anymore)
Posted by VirtualInsanity
I also doubt the BBC has some kind of agenda, unlike American broacasters where sponsors get to choose what information gets dispersed the BBC is funded by the government.
It's got me confused, but that doesn't mean anyone of those 3 would have an astrology bashing campaign going on whenever their purpose is to educate.
"bashing campaign" is not the problem.
if somebody brings an arguement which is in the area of geometry, we should answer them with arguments from geomtry.
if it is mechanics/dynamics so argue in that area.
if it is about psychology/anthropology then the arguements should be in that area.
Only don't mix them.
The user who posted this message has hidden it."Sidereel zodiac uses formulas closer to observational, thus why your Vedic/eastern/sidereel chart can be cast different than your western chart."
that is in the previous age the western and eastern looked to the same charts?
Posted by VirtualInsanity
That's why I created a thread. Cause I've known for a few weeks already.
this isn't new news. Welcome to 2015
^^^^^^^^^^^^ well, I mean almost the same charts. or maybe only the position of the Sun to be precise.
maybe I need to read about sidereal.
maybe I need to read about sidereal.
Posted by P-AngelYeah why don't you go fuck yourself, instead of littering threads with your hateful speech.Posted by VirtualInsanity
That's why I created a thread. Cause I've known for a few weeks already.
this isn't new news. Welcome to 2015click to expand
Posted by FrostAndBite
Bleh I always explain it poorly.
Either way, the BBC releases this story all the time. There is an explanation which has been stated numerous times. But no one gives two shits what astrologers say in the scientific community lol.
http://www.astro.com/astrology/aa_article150701_e.htm
For me this is the explanation:
" zodiac signs never have, and never will be visible - nor are they expected to make a close astronomical alignment with the constellations whose names they share. This would not be possible because constellations vary greatly in size whereas zodiac signs do not."
The zodiac signs are designed to have the same length of 30°. and are used for character prediction.
The constallations that inspired astrologers to use them for calendars do not have the same length.
Constallations inspired. Zodiac was born. It got tuned with the earth-to-the-sun view. calendar was born. observation of character traits were made. astrology was born.
PS: All that has still nothing to do with the question if astrology really can predict your character traits based on your Sun sign or Mercury or whatever. It can still be a yes-sir effect.
PS: ophelius was known already before. cause constellations all over the sky have been known already before.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveNow that I've come to write this ^^^^^^^^^^, I see that in my old post I was setting sagittarius constallation equal to the zodiac sign of Sag. (of course Sun is mostly in Sag constallation during the Sag Sun season).Posted by FrostAndBite
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http://www.astro.com/astrology/aa_article150701_e.htm
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" zodiac signs never have, and never will be visible - nor are they expected to make a close astronomical alignment with the constellations whose names they share. This would not be possible because constellations vary greatly in size whereas zodiac signs do not."
The zodiac signs are designed to have the same length of 30°. and are used for character prediction.
The constallations that inspired astrologers to use them for calendars do not have the same length.
Constallations inspired. Zodiac was born. It got tuned with the earth-to-the-sun view. calendar was born. observation of character traits were made. astrology was born.
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Posted by VirtualInsanityOnce we correct that point I see still no influence of the deviation of the spin axis on the tropical view. One axis is vertical to the other one. The deviation is only 30°.Posted by DwellingOnMoveDepending on which date you were born the sun would've been in Scorpio, Ophiucus or Sagittarius (19th, 20th and 21st of December). So unless you were born those 3 days the sun wasn't observed in that window of sky. That's the thing. You as a Sag have the possibility of still being a Sag, but us Gemini are Tauri since the sun in reality is in Taurus for the whole periode it is supposed to be in Gemini according to astrology.
I don't get the problem. (iq 94)
If the Sun was observed to be in this window of sky:
...sagittarius.jpg
when I was born, does anything else matter? if the astrologers lie about where Sun is, won't astronoms protest?
... youtube...
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Posted by blackphasePosted by VirtualInsanityI still don't buy into it, and really it doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me, I am who I am regardless of what Astrology says, But from what I know of Taurus, I am nothing even close to that.
Well you're a Gimini Sun bc the sun was in Gemini when you were born, according to the Babylonians and it was when they thought it up. But the sun was actually in Taurus when you were born, so you should be a Taurus Sun. The placements changed and astrology never corrected it.
But thanks for that very nice addition.
I'm still just confused because you said that the Sun was in Gemini when I was born, but then in the same sentence you said it was actually in Taurus.. so which is it?
When did the placements actually change? So you are saying that they had it wrong from the get go and just never corrected it? I don't follow, but I also see no correlation within myself to Taurus, so it doesn't seem quite fitting.click to expand
I try and try and I still don't get the point.
So far I've learned that the astrological zodica partitions do not always overlap the constallations of the same name 100% . But the heart of the two partitions must overlap I think.
That is if 2000 years ago they were sure they can see Scorpio whenever Taurus is hidden behind the Sun (and calendar confirms it's the second month of automn), and if today they have same observation, what's the problem if anything else in the universe has changed around this?
This is stupid. I know many Gem people that are born between 4th and 21st June, and it's so obvious that they have all the characteristics of Gem. There is no Taurus in them at all.
Posted by blackphaseYeah no, like for you to be a Gemini the sun would have to rise in Gemini when you're born. And 2000 years ago it did during those dates that correspond with the astrology dates used today. But today the sun rises in Taurus during those dates according to the BBC website, from what I understand from Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye it rises in Cancer. Anyway, according to all of them it doesn't rise in Gemini because shit changed (don't ask me why or how).Posted by VirtualInsanityI still don't buy into it, and really it doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me, I am who I am regardless of what Astrology says, But from what I know of Taurus, I am nothing even close to that.
Well you're a Gimini Sun bc the sun was in Gemini when you were born, according to the Babylonians and it was when they thought it up. But the sun was actually in Taurus when you were born, so you should be a Taurus Sun. The placements changed and astrology never corrected it.
But thanks for that very nice addition.
I'm still just confused because you said that the Sun was in Gemini when I was born, but then in the same sentence you said it was actually in Taurus.. so which is it?
When did the placements actually change? So you are saying that they had it wrong from the get go and just never corrected it? I don't follow, but I also see no correlation within myself to Taurus, so it doesn't seem quite fitting.click to expand
But then we've got our 2 friends here saying that is has got nothing to do with that.
And now I'm even more confused. Mostly because of the big words they use lol.
Posted by VirtualInsanityThe BBC? Isn't that a tv network...??
Yeah, good idea, cause I'm a bit confused about it myself. On the BBC website it says that Gemini are actually Tauri, but in both videos Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye say Scorpios are actually Libras, so that would make Gemini Cancers than? 😕
So far, I've found some pages that say the Babylonians invented astrology. Then, you have some that clearly point out that it originated in egypt. They even had a decan system that was broken into 36 sections... 12 zodiac signs x 3 decans...
And, if I'm remembering my history right, egyptians were before babylonians.
Fuck that noise.
It's all because of this Ophiuchus kid coming into the party faaaaaar too late.
He's not relevant and should leave us Cool Kids alone :/
I ain't no frackin' Taurus!
Much love to my Bulls, tho
It's all because of this Ophiuchus kid coming into the party faaaaaar too late.
He's not relevant and should leave us Cool Kids alone :/
I ain't no frackin' Taurus!
Much love to my Bulls, tho
Posted by blackphaseShift was long before you were born lol. And yeah indeed, we are who we are. We are all capable of the same things, but all with our pretty much unique combination of switched that are on and off. People like to define us by our behaviours even though that's not our personality (under the right circumstances everyone is capable of any kind of behaviour), it's not how we see ourselves and certainly not how we want to be viewed. (unless you're some kind of weirdo who premeditates every move he makes lol) But nonetheless, it was interestingPosted by VirtualInsanityOkay.. So it was in Gemini when I was born.. end of story. If there was some sort of a shift after that I would think it should only effect those born after that shift.. No?Posted by blackphaseYeah no, like for you to be a Gemini the sun would have to rise in Gemini when you're born. And 2000 years ago it did during those dates that correspond with the astrology dates used today. But today the sun rises in Taurus during those dates according to the BBC website, from what I understand from Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye it rises in Cancer. Anyway, according to all of them it doesn't rise in Gemini because shit changed (don't ask me why or how).Posted by VirtualInsanityI still don't buy into it, and really it doesn't make a whole lot of difference to me, I am who I am regardless of what Astrology says, But from what I know of Taurus, I am nothing even close to that.
Well you're a Gimini Sun bc the sun was in Gemini when you were born, according to the Babylonians and it was when they thought it up. But the sun was actually in Taurus when you were born, so you should be a Taurus Sun. The placements changed and astrology never corrected it.
But thanks for that very nice addition.
I'm still just confused because you said that the Sun was in Gemini when I was born, but then in the same sentence you said it was actually in Taurus.. so which is it?
When did the placements actually change? So you are saying that they had it wrong from the get go and just never corrected it? I don't follow, but I also see no correlation within myself to Taurus, so it doesn't seem quite fitting.
But then we've got our 2 friends here saying that is has got nothing to do with that.
And now I'm even more confused. Mostly because of the big words they use lol.
Our birth charts are deciphered upon birth information, so if there was a shift sometime after my birth I don't see how that would effect my chart.. let alone my personality.click to expand
Posted by xoxoRainUhm... for one my two best friends are Tauri, I don't want to be like them. When they get drunk one trashes the place and hits his gf, the other one gets verbally agressive. And with verbally agressive I don't mean just shouting or like saying something stupid in the heat of the moment, no this guy really goes well beyond all that's acceptable. And he has hit me on multiple occasions while being drunk. I just hit him back harder and that's that.
Gemini's wish they could be a Taurus. But can't. I'd rather be a taurus over a gemini anyday, yall are tooooo flighty. Can't commit to shit
And Gems can't commit? I've got a Gem flying over the Atlantic to see me right now. Maybe you've read about it somewhere on DXP. 😉 And these past few months have been hard, for her bc she wants to run away and for me bc she gives me bs, but hey she got on the plane and I'll see her in a few hours. So yeah, please tell me how a Gemini can't commit. It's not easy, but we will when we want to.
And it's not about me wanting to be a Taurus, trust me, I love being a Gemini. But I was just curious. And if we Gemini are Taurii, you Taurri aren't Taurii fyi so we still wouldn't be like "you".
Posted by misslissaYes it is, but they do have a website. :pPosted by VirtualInsanityThe BBC? Isn't that a tv network...??
Yeah, good idea, cause I'm a bit confused about it myself. On the BBC website it says that Gemini are actually Tauri, but in both videos Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye say Scorpios are actually Libras, so that would make Gemini Cancers than? 😕
So far, I've found some pages that say the Babylonians invented astrology. Then, you have some that clearly point out that it originated in egypt. They even had a decan system that was broken into 36 sections... 12 zodiac signs x 3 decans...
And, if I'm remembering my history right, egyptians were before babylonians.click to expand
And that would depend on what you describe as Egyptians, cause their civilization changed quite a bit throughout history. Babylon has been around since 2000BC, the Egyptians started about a 1000 years before, but in now way do they resemble the Egyptians from the Roman era.
Posted by VirtualInsanityNeil deGrasse Tyson said the earth is an OBLATE Sphere.
Depending on which date you were born the sun would've been in Scorpio, Ophiucus or Sagittarius (19th, 20th and 21st of December). So unless you were born those 3 days the sun wasn't observed in that window of sky. That's the thing. You as a Sag have the possibility of still being a Sag, but us Gemini are Tauri since the sun in reality is in Taurus for the whole periode it is supposed to be in Gemini according to astrology.
And astronomers do. That's how I found out about this
Montgomery and her cat gifs. always a good look. IJS
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you are what you think you are, so whatever
yas
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