Are Leo men stingy? (Money talk!)

I'm in a relationship with a Leo man for almost a year, we're both in our mid twenties. I'm wondering if Leo men are stingy bec.from my observation, I kmow two leo men other than my bf, and they are both too stingy, and recently I'm thinking that my Leo bf is stingy (but I'm still not sure), what made me have these thoughts is..

1. He didn't get me a gift on my birthday and when I asked him a few days later, he said he didn't know what to get for me and then said jokingly that he's saving money for my gift, following this he asked me "do you knowhow much I get paid?" (which was very very little when he told me.. his salary per month would barely get half a gift. However, I wasnt waiting for an expensive gift, but he used to even get me flowers on every dateand on valentines he got me a flower, but hedid noteven get me thag on my birthday, I personally find any gift from him valuable (I still keep every flower he got me, they dried up)
. I'd like to say that he also told me he doesnt need an occasion to get me a gift.. actually he got me a pair of earphones before witjout any occasion n I loved it.

2. He feels discouraged to call me on the phone, most our calls are through a free voice call app, even when internet connection sucks, he still tries using the app, until I get frustrated and call him on the phone. Last night the app was not working properly n I told him let's just use the phone.. and he said we'll talk on the phone gor 4 hours? I told him there's no other way .. then he continued using the app and said he'll get a new line from the same company I use (I guess bec. calls will then be cheaper?)

3. He won't get a new car, only thinking of used cars bec. he is planning to travel abroad and stay there (me with him), and he said he will sell the car anyway before he travels so he doesnt want to lose much money from this. Plus he'll need the money when he travels.

Id like to say that I always insist to pay for my dinner on our dates, but sometimes he'd refuse and pay for me. So he is not that stingy here.. only the signs mentioned above are what make me doubt how he manages his money

These are our placements:
Him: Aqua Moon, Virgo Mercury, Virgo Venus, Virgo Mars
Mine: Scorpio Moon, Taurus Mercury, Aries Venus, Pisces Mars

Please Leo Men... your comments 🙂

I want to say one more thing.. he says when he travels to work and live abroad.. he won't getback to his country.. I askedhim not even for a small vacation? he said no.

and Im wondering why not?! .. I travel alot and when I travel for study or work, I usually return for a small vacation.

Does he not want to spare some for a plane ticket? I cant live abroad for 5 continuous years without returning to my home country (for even a week)..

what do you guys think about this??

When Leos get sloppy and lazy they're probably not that into you I'm afraid.

Posted by enfant_terrible
When Leos get sloppy and lazy they're probably not that into you I'm afraid.

I should say he's very generous emotionally and he's always there for me.. He'd ask me about my day and how I'm feeling even if he's dead tired after his 12+ hours work shift n dyin to sleep .. he finds time for me and takes a day off work to be able to meet me at the time that suits me.. he's starting his career as a doctor so he works so much..

First time I ever met him, he traveled more than 3 hours only to see me. I'm only talking about the materialistic side of him in this thread..

Posted by 9waterlion9
I'm a Leo and so is my mom, being money conscious is NOT our strong point... we are very generous to the ones we love/people close to us. I won't go spending all my money on people I don't care about that much though, so if you're sure your important maybe maybe he just has a lot of 10th house or Capricorn placements...me and my ex used to go all out on holidays and birthdays, until the end of the relationship when I stopped caring as much and got lazy like someone else mentioned, lol

I am the same way, I'm conscious about my spendings but will shower the ones I love with money/gifts without giving it a second thought, I get myself the finest things as well ..

I wonder how do I show him that I need him to make me feel special.. not just through emotions but fine things too.. Such topic is sensitive and dont want him thinking I'm too materialistic..

My Leo Moon love skimped on my birthday as well. He's all about birthdays with EVERYONE else.

Come to think of it, my Leo sun ex-best friend also skimped on my birthdays a lot.

It didn't bother me so much about the best friend because she was always broke, but when my Leo moon guy did it, it made me sad.

But (and this sounds really like just trying to find an excuse) maybe when they feel they can't buy you what you deserve, they just don't?

I have Mars in Leo, and when I feel I can't repay someone in actions for what they did (like repay a great meal) I just don't. I give them immense compliments for what they did, but don't return the favor.

Hmm...

Am I onto something, or is this all bullocks?

Leos are known for their generosity. Stinginess is not a common trait for them.

Posted by pennystealing123
My Leo Moon love skimped on my birthday as well. He's all about birthdays with EVERYONE else.

Come to think of it, my Leo sun ex-best friend also skimped on my birthdays a lot.

It didn't bother me so much about the best friend because she was always broke, but when my Leo moon guy did it, it made me sad.

But (and this sounds really like just trying to find an excuse) maybe when they feel they can't buy you what you deserve, they just don't?

I have Mars in Leo, and when I feel I can't repay someone in actions for what they did (like repay a great meal) I just don't. I give them immense compliments for what they did, but don't return the favor.

Hmm...

Am I onto something, or is this all bullocks?

Even your handle: pennystealing! lolol

That isn't your LEO Placements.



@TxOgal

You see all that Virgo in his chart?

And enfant's post?

And waterlion9?

Yeah. :/


I can't speak for all LEO's, of course, but I looove giving people stuff--

the only times I don't, is when I believe it's expected or if, in doing so,

I will end up doing without.

I'd rather get you your own, than share, in those cases.



Number1. He could have gotten you a card, or at least acknowledged your birthday.

That was shitty in my opinion-- had nothing to do with money.

Also consider and keep in mind that your Sun, Moon and Merc are at odds with his

Sun and Moon (square).


🙂

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by pennystealing123
My Leo Moon love skimped on my birthday as well. He's all about birthdays with EVERYONE else.

Come to think of it, my Leo sun ex-best friend also skimped on my birthdays a lot.

It didn't bother me so much about the best friend because she was always broke, but when my Leo moon guy did it, it made me sad.

But (and this sounds really like just trying to find an excuse) maybe when they feel they can't buy you what you deserve, they just don't?

I have Mars in Leo, and when I feel I can't repay someone in actions for what they did (like repay a great meal) I just don't. I give them immense compliments for what they did, but don't return the favor.

Hmm...

Am I onto something, or is this all bullocks?

Even your handle: pennystealing! lolol

That isn't your LEO Placements.



@TxOgal

You see all that Virgo in his chart?

And enfant's post?

And waterlion9?

Yeah. :/


I can't speak for all LEO's, of course, but I looove giving people stuff--

the only times I don't, is when I believe it's expected or if, in doing so,

I will end up doing without.

I'd rather get you your own, than share, in those cases.



Number1. He could have gotten you a card, or at least acknowledged your birthday.

That was shitty in my opinion-- had nothing to do with money.

Also consider and keep in mind that your Sun, Moon and Merc are at odds with his

Sun and Moon (square).


🙂

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You dont give people stuff when they are expecting it?... isnt that disappointing? It's letting someone down when they have some expectation.. thats what he did to me on my birthday.. he acknowledged it but i couldnt see him on my birthday n the other weekend when i met him, he didnt give me a gift.. it's sad

Posted by pennystealing123

But (and this sounds really like just trying to find an excuse) maybe when they feel they can't buy you what you deserve, they just don't?

I can relate to this. Not about money or what the person "deserves" but when I have no clue what to get someone I'd rather just not get them anything at all bc it feels petty and fake. But I'd spend a fortune on buying them something I know is on the mark though. Also, I'm at my most generous when nothing is expected from, or of me..


OP, I'm afraid yours is just cheap. A penny saved is a penny earned. Prolly saving for your future home or somethin'. 😛

"You dont give people stuff when they are expecting it?... isnt that disappointing? It's letting someone down when they have some expectation.. thats what he did to me on my birthday.. he acknowledged it but i couldnt see him on my birthday n the other weekend when i met him, he didnt give me a gift.. it's sad"



It's sad that you didn't read my whole post, because

I covered that.

Expecting, NOT on an occasion like a birthday... but

as in Entitlement, taking advantage of generosity.

Sometimes we touchy feely, others bitey scratchy, but not stingy stingy

Posted by Montgomery
"You dont give people stuff when they are expecting it?... isnt that disappointing? It's letting someone down when they have some expectation.. thats what he did to me on my birthday.. he acknowledged it but i couldnt see him on my birthday n the other weekend when i met him, he didnt give me a gift.. it's sad"



It's sad that you didn't read my whole post, because

I covered that.

Expecting, NOT on an occasion like a birthday... but

as in Entitlement, taking advantage of generosity.

oh well.. it wasnt clear enough.. if you meant expecting a gift (not on an occasion) then theres no problem with that. I just didnt think one would expect a gift on a normal day? lol .. nevermind i'm leaving that

If leo men are anything like my lioness, it's hard to imagine them being stingy. But she will procrastinate/not purchase at all if she doesn't want to put in the 'thinking' effort in deciding on the best gift . The actual gift seemed very important to her. An expression of the leo's heart/feeling towards the person maybe? It just seems like a really big deal to her - the actual gift that is.

Posted by crabbycrab76
If leo men are anything like my lioness, it's hard to imagine them being stingy. But she will procrastinate/not purchase at all if she doesn't want to put in the 'thinking' effort in deciding on the best gift . The actual gift seemed very important to her. An expression of the leo's heart/feeling towards the person maybe? It just seems like a really big deal to her - the actual gift that is.

what is the actual gift? : / .. and why wouldnt they want to put in the thinking effort?.... isnt such occasion worth the "thinking" effort? ..

Maybe you're boring and unstimulating so nothing personal comes to mind.

That's when bishes get waffle irons lol.

Posted by enfant_terrible
Maybe you're boring and unstimulating so nothing personal comes to mind.

That's when bishes get waffle irons lol.

Thanks for your sincere comment

Very enlightning ... NOT

Posted by TxOgal

Posted by crabbycrab76
If leo men are anything like my lioness, it's hard to imagine them being stingy. But she will procrastinate/not purchase at all if she doesn't want to put in the 'thinking' effort in deciding on the best gift . The actual gift seemed very important to her. An expression of the leo's heart/feeling towards the person maybe? It just seems like a really big deal to her - the actual gift that is.

what is the actual gift? : / .. and why wouldnt they want to put in the thinking effort?.... isnt such occasion worth the "thinking" effort? ..

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frustration basically - because she can't think of a 'good' enough gift. Similar to what another poster wrote - they want the gift to be special - not just any ol' thing just to say they got you something. It seems to me, gifting is very personal to them - they don't take it as lightly as others.

Gawd, honestly, I'd take emotional investment ANY day over gifts of any caliber or cost or occasion.
If he's doing all the other things you say he is- I'd personally be so over the moon about that.
It sucha Leo way to show caring, by investing time and energy versus spending money.
Unless we know the perfect thing for you- and then cost is no object and lack of occasion will not stop us from buying it for you 🙂

The man is just starting out in life. He really doesn't have the resources.

I am intrigued by the Leo responses. I can't stand poverty, so I save. Now I'm a mom, I save twice more. I need the security for my son and I.

My husband is nowhere near poor, but he saves. When our son was born, we saved twice more for a bigger house designed as we always dreamed of and two cars so that our boy is comfortable from his own parents money.

And we have a lead in life over you two.

If the man is committed to you, and shows signs of being responsible man, why question his inability to spend like a brainless maniac? He will provide, and that is enough.

Unless, you can't understand that he's saving towards a secure future.

Posted by 037
The man is just starting out in life. He really doesn't have the resources.

I am intrigued by the Leo responses. I can't stand poverty, so I save. Now I'm a mom, I save twice more. I need the security for my son and I.

My husband is nowhere near poor, but he saves. When our son was born, we saved twice more for a bigger house designed as we always dreamed of and two cars so that our boy is comfortable from his own parents money.

And we have a lead in life over you two.

If the man is committed to you, and shows signs of being responsible man, why question his inability to spend like a brainless maniac? He will provide, and that is enough.

Unless, you can't understand that he's saving towards a secure future.

Thanks for your comment ... I understand thaf hes saving.. To me it is just a way to show me that I'm special, just some kind of reassurance.. He is very helpful and generous with his friends and used to get them random gifts (eg: if one if his friends (a girl) looked sad, hed gift her a bag the other day) .. I just need to feel that I'm closer to him..especially that last night he said he cant yet fully trust me bec. I dont tell him every detail of my day and made a huge drama out of me not knowing he's sad without him saying anything.. (We dont even get to see eachother much, we mostly talk on the phone.. I need to know that he's investing his ALL into our relationship cause thats what I read about Leos doing.. or just tell me how do I know he's heading to committment?

I am probably completely misreading this, so feel free to set me straight...
But it sounds like you think a man opening his wallet equals total commitment...?
I don't want to offend cos I understand I don't have the full story, it's just translating as- if he buys me things, he loves me.

Posted by wagtail
I am probably completely misreading this, so feel free to set me straight...
But it sounds like you think a man opening his wallet equals total commitment...?
I don't want to offend cos I understand I don't have the full story, it's just translating as- if he buys me things, he loves me.

no i didnt mean.. gifts = commitment or even love ... there are people in my life who give me gifts but do not show 1% of love or emotional connection towards me.. Thats why i mentioned how my bf treats me.. to make it clear that i cherish this

like even if he didnt usually bring me ppl gifts (which isnt true) he could just get me cos arent i a special someone?

gifts just means an acknowledgement and a way of saying I will make the effort to not disappoint you bec. ur special to me.. well I think taureans appreciate nice things? a little gift .. even if its a stone.. but given to me on "my" birthday would have been appreciated bec. it holds a value to me and I swear id look at it everyday n admire his efforts lol .. no kidding though

the thing about committment is a whole different topic .. i shouldnt have mentioned it here but it is on my mind.. n here i meant .. its one more thing that worries me