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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama

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Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?
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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?

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Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35
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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?


Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35

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So you lied to your mother who you are very close to?

Why?

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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?


Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35


So you lied to your mother who you are very close to?

Why?

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Because my mother is Greek and in our Greek culture we have something called boundaries... I didn't tell her about my Leo being unfaithful because that would just be disrespectful and bring down my Leo's value infront of my families eyes. Women have value and worth in the Greek culture it's not all western like everyone thinks. Talking to my mom about my issues would've ended with "if it were a Greek woman you would've been married and have kids already"

My mother is also sick she can't handle drama and she needs attentive care instead of me opening to her about my relationships
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Well she might care about not putting you through hell in your prime age.

How old is the ex sag?
He's like in his late 30s, I have a feeling he's taking her for a right cause when I came in the picture they were 4-5 year in and no damn ring.

No ring, well all is fair game. One of my favorite poetic quotes is

"all is fair in love and war"
Aaah. Okay. Looks like she's on his hook and you're on hers. And neither of it is a loving relationship.


There was a time when she was on my hook and I should've done something instead of sitting around on my ass and enjoying everything.


Your are holding on to that mistake

Let it go

People lose it all cuz can't let go of one wrong move
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As you can see I'm letting it go... I hope you all are happy. I'm letting it go... I cannot chase someone who doesn't value the effort I'm putting in for them
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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?


Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35


So you lied to your mother who you are very close to?

Why?


Because my mother is Greek and in our Greek culture we have something called boundaries... I didn't tell her about my Leo being unfaithful because that would just be disrespectful and bring down my Leo's value infront of my families eyes. Women have value and worth in the Greek culture it's not all western like everyone thinks. Talking to my mom about my issues would've ended with "if it were a Greek woman you would've been married and have kids already"

My mother is also sick she can't handle drama and she needs attentive care instead of me opening to her about my relationships
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I didn't mean telling your mother about the infidelity

Was your mum sick 2yrs ago when you met Leo?
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*cringes

I teach uni students.
Right! There's a cut-off, not sure what age, I guess around 25 for most people...those younger than that, I just feel like I'm dealing with extremely intelligent teenagers. MOST of them, that is. I teach college freshmen, and the vast majority honestly are not very mature. They still enjoy smarting off to authority figures and have trouble getting themselves out of bed in the morning.
Honestly, I see them mostly as kids. They're very childish still. Freshmen huh? Those are the types to become infatuated with their professors. Been receiving any creative notes lately? lol They're ridiculous at that age.
Ha! No. I haven't had that problem lately. When I'm in the classroom I turn the mother hen and dorky nerd vibes way up, and I turn the flirty, sexy vibes way down. 😆 The young guys are still sometimes...distracted, but I just pretend not to notice that. I honestly get flirtier vibes from the male staff and married professors. *rolls eyes*

Are you getting heart eye notes?
*cringes

Kids are weird so yeah sometimes.

They tend to idealize things too much.
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No offense but I'm no f kid. I have a career as an engineer, I finishing my mech engineers degree, and I have started a few of my own companies...

I'm no f kid .... don't compare to me to kids don't talk to me as if I'm a kid.
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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?


Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35


So you lied to your mother who you are very close to?

Why?


Because my mother is Greek and in our Greek culture we have something called boundaries... I didn't tell her about my Leo being unfaithful because that would just be disrespectful and bring down my Leo's value infront of my families eyes. Women have value and worth in the Greek culture it's not all western like everyone thinks. Talking to my mom about my issues would've ended with "if it were a Greek woman you would've been married and have kids already"

My mother is also sick she can't handle drama and she needs attentive care instead of me opening to her about my relationships
I didn't mean telling your mother about the infidelity

Was your mum sick 2yrs ago when you met Leo?

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No she wasn't till this year... I actually help take care of her sometimes. I told my family about my Leo and they all know I love her so dearly; but because we are so close and tight net they can see the affects of her not being good to me... my attitude and my mood my happiness... poof gone out the door
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Well she might care about not putting you through hell in your prime age.

How old is the ex sag?
He's like in his late 30s, I have a feeling he's taking her for a right cause when I came in the picture they were 4-5 year in and no damn ring.

No ring, well all is fair game. One of my favorite poetic quotes is

"all is fair in love and war"
Aaah. Okay. Looks like she's on his hook and you're on hers. And neither of it is a loving relationship.


There was a time when she was on my hook and I should've done something instead of sitting around on my ass and enjoying everything.


Your are holding on to that mistake

Let it go

People lose it all cuz can't let go of one wrong move


As you can see I'm letting it go... I hope you all are happy. I'm letting it go... I cannot chase someone who doesn't value the effort I'm putting in for them
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Happy that you have listened to people that have experience in these things, yes

You know Mark, if you ask for advice, it's good idea to listen to it and not push it away
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Well she might care about not putting you through hell in your prime age.

How old is the ex sag?
He's like in his late 30s, I have a feeling he's taking her for a right cause when I came in the picture they were 4-5 year in and no damn ring.

No ring, well all is fair game. One of my favorite poetic quotes is

"all is fair in love and war"
Aaah. Okay. Looks like she's on his hook and you're on hers. And neither of it is a loving relationship.


There was a time when she was on my hook and I should've done something instead of sitting around on my ass and enjoying everything.


Your are holding on to that mistake

Let it go

People lose it all cuz can't let go of one wrong move


As you can see I'm letting it go... I hope you all are happy. I'm letting it go... I cannot chase someone who doesn't value the effort I'm putting in for them


Happy that you have listened to people that have experience in these things, yes

You know Mark, if you ask for advice, it's good idea to listen to it and not push it away

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My apologies I'm writing her my ultimatum letter and it's frustrating going through the shit I've endured...although I love her to death...

I really I wish I never met her. Heartbreak is a bitch
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*cringes

I teach uni students.
Right! There's a cut-off, not sure what age, I guess around 25 for most people...those younger than that, I just feel like I'm dealing with extremely intelligent teenagers. MOST of them, that is. I teach college freshmen, and the vast majority honestly are not very mature. They still enjoy smarting off to authority figures and have trouble getting themselves out of bed in the morning.
Honestly, I see them mostly as kids. They're very childish still. Freshmen huh? Those are the types to become infatuated with their professors. Been receiving any creative notes lately? lol They're ridiculous at that age.
Ha! No. I haven't had that problem lately. When I'm in the classroom I turn the mother hen and dorky nerd vibes way up, and I turn the flirty, sexy vibes way down. 😆 The young guys are still sometimes...distracted, but I just pretend not to notice that. I honestly get flirtier vibes from the male staff and married professors. *rolls eyes*

Are you getting heart eye notes?
*cringes

Kids are weird so yeah sometimes.

They tend to idealize things too much.
No offense but I'm no f kid. I have a career as an engineer, I finishing my mech engineers degree, and I have started a few of my own companies...

I'm no f kid .... don't compare to me to kids don't talk to me as if I'm a kid.


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Chill.

When I called you a "kid," it just means I'm old.
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Your not that old you've got a young heart a young soul. I'm a very old soul... a very very old soul
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Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around
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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?


Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35


So you lied to your mother who you are very close to?

Why?


Because my mother is Greek and in our Greek culture we have something called boundaries... I didn't tell her about my Leo being unfaithful because that would just be disrespectful and bring down my Leo's value infront of my families eyes. Women have value and worth in the Greek culture it's not all western like everyone thinks. Talking to my mom about my issues would've ended with "if it were a Greek woman you would've been married and have kids already"

My mother is also sick she can't handle drama and she needs attentive care instead of me opening to her about my relationships
I didn't mean telling your mother about the infidelity

Was your mum sick 2yrs ago when you met Leo?


No she wasn't till this year... I actually help take care of her sometimes. I told my family about my Leo and they all know I love her so dearly; but because we are so close and tight net they can see the affects of her not being good to me... my attitude and my mood my happiness... poof gone out the door

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So the reason you didn't tell her the Leo's age wasn't due to your mum being sick as she wasn't then. It was because you were scared what she would think ?

You see when we mature, we don't need our mother's approval ... whatever culture we are from?

You can still love your parents but have the courage to live your life as you want.....hiding things from them is kind of childish

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You're gonna be SO mad at yourself once you get over this woman... The shit she has put you through... The insecurity she built up in you... She makes you look like an idiot and when your head lands out of the sky you're gonna be mad at yourself for years for allowing some 40 year old woman to treat you like a toy
I have a feeling that is gonna be the case. I'm already mad at myself... I went out for the first time yesterday and met a few ladies. Didn't get any numbers but I will next time I'm out.
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Mark, is your mother still around?


Yes we are very close and I keep in touch with my family members. Although I haven't disclosed this information to them I didn't wanna burden my loved ones.


So you are not so close to her that you can't be open with her?

Why is that?


No im close to her but she's got health problems and diabetes ect that's why I don't wanna bring home drama




Oh right..does she know you are with a woman double your age?


Ya sort of... I said she was 35 because my Leo looks 33-35


So you lied to your mother who you are very close to?

Why?


Because my mother is Greek and in our Greek culture we have something called boundaries... I didn't tell her about my Leo being unfaithful because that would just be disrespectful and bring down my Leo's value infront of my families eyes. Women have value and worth in the Greek culture it's not all western like everyone thinks. Talking to my mom about my issues would've ended with "if it were a Greek woman you would've been married and have kids already"

My mother is also sick she can't handle drama and she needs attentive care instead of me opening to her about my relationships
I didn't mean telling your mother about the infidelity

Was your mum sick 2yrs ago when you met Leo?


No she wasn't till this year... I actually help take care of her sometimes. I told my family about my Leo and they all know I love her so dearly; but because we are so close and tight net they can see the affects of her not being good to me... my attitude and my mood my happiness... poof gone out the door


So the reason you didn't tell her the Leo's age wasn't due to your mum being sick as she wasn't then. It was because you were scared what she would think ?

You see when we mature, we don't need our mother's approval ... whatever culture we are from?

You can still love your parents but have the courage to live your life as you want.....hiding things from them is kind of childish

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No its called boundaries and respect. My parents never cared for her age they cared for me to be happy. They saw me happy with her...

My siblings know her real age not my parents.
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Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing

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No im not writing a letter of love it's a letter of ultimatum. It's stating that I'm done period it's over
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Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing




hopefully he'll listen to you because he's not listening to anyone else. lol. this kid is in too deep and it's only gonna get worse from here. he's too young to be going through this kind of thing with someone her age. he has so much life to live. so many women he could have a better situation with. i feel bad for him actually. if this is legit and he's not a troll. lol



He's in love. Love can be blind.

I don't have an issue with him dating or falling for a woman in her 40's but she treats him like her bitch. Uses him up to boost her ego and fucks her ex on the side in hopes that her ex will come back to her and commit. She's making him play the role of a substitute boyfriend until the type of guy she truly wants to settle down with enters the picture, then he'll be dropped like a bad habit.

If he doesn't already feel used up, depressed and insecure out of this situation then I guarantee you he will very soon. This traumatizing situation will effect the rest of his relationships and give him trust issues for years and years down the line.

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I already feel used up and traumatized and beatup. Thanks to her I can't trust women anymore...
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Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing


No im not writing a letter of love it's a letter of ultimatum. It's stating that I'm done period it's over



An ultimatum is like asking her to change and if not THEN you're done. That's what an ultimatum is. "Do this, act like this, commit to me or we are done."



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Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing




hopefully he'll listen to you because he's not listening to anyone else. lol. this kid is in too deep and it's only gonna get worse from here. he's too young to be going through this kind of thing with someone her age. he has so much life to live. so many women he could have a better situation with. i feel bad for him actually. if this is legit and he's not a troll. lol



He's in love. Love can be blind.

I don't have an issue with him dating or falling for a woman in her 40's but she treats him like her bitch. Uses him up to boost her ego and fucks her ex on the side in hopes that her ex will come back to her and commit. She's making him play the role of a substitute boyfriend until the type of guy she truly wants to settle down with enters the picture, then he'll be dropped like a bad habit.

If he doesn't already feel used up, depressed and insecure out of this situation then I guarantee you he will very soon. This traumatizing situation will effect the rest of his relationships and give him trust issues for years and years down the line.


I already feel used up and traumatized and beatup. Thanks to her I can't trust women anymore...

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Mark, was Leo your first lover ?
I dated a lot a lot of women I mean a lot a lot a lot of women and the truth is I never cared about them I mean I treated them equally by just never cared for them in my heart and I never really felt any love or compassion towards them and never felt any sort of connection with them like a soulmate connection you know what I mean



I dated women from the ages of 20 all the way till the age of 46-47 maybe.

But this Leo yeah she's not the first thing I've ever dated but she definitely was the love of my life and she bought my heart with her love and compassion that she showed me not the person she is today but the person I knew at the beginning former half of my relationship

I mean if I can describe her the way she was to me I'd say she was perfect but this was before shit hit the fan and The truth be told even if I do walk away from her I'm going to look at her in the eyes I'm going to say I love you now I loved you then and I will love you till the day I fucking die and I want to thank you for teaching me that lesson that you taught me



Because she wasn't just the love of my life she wasn't just the woman I wanted to have children with and Mary and all of that OK now I'm crying she was a teacher to me she was someone I looked up to and I just wish it would never have gotten to this point

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Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing




hopefully he'll listen to you because he's not listening to anyone else. lol. this kid is in too deep and it's only gonna get worse from here. he's too young to be going through this kind of thing with someone her age. he has so much life to live. so many women he could have a better situation with. i feel bad for him actually. if this is legit and he's not a troll. lol



He's in love. Love can be blind.

I don't have an issue with him dating or falling for a woman in her 40's but she treats him like her bitch. Uses him up to boost her ego and fucks her ex on the side in hopes that her ex will come back to her and commit. She's making him play the role of a substitute boyfriend until the type of guy she truly wants to settle down with enters the picture, then he'll be dropped like a bad habit.

If he doesn't already feel used up, depressed and insecure out of this situation then I guarantee you he will very soon. This traumatizing situation will effect the rest of his relationships and give him trust issues for years and years down the line.


I already feel used up and traumatized and beatup. Thanks to her I can't trust women anymore...




Yes you will

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The problem was that when I was with her I forgot all about myself and you can ignore your own needs and wants for so long until it starts to chew you up from the inside and I cannot let that happen to me anymore I need to concentrate on myself I need to worry about myself because at this point I come first
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Posted by Mark-23
Posted by Vageenka
Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing


No im not writing a letter of love it's a letter of ultimatum. It's stating that I'm done period it's over



An ultimatum is like asking her to change and if not THEN you're done. That's what an ultimatum is. "Do this, act like this, commit to me or we are done."

You don't need to write her a letter. You blocked her and haven't spoken to her in 9 days. Why write her a letter? You subconsciously want her back in your life that's why. And if she comes back, she will continue to treat you like a doormat because you unconsciously allowed yourself to be treated like one. She knows she can keep her ex around and you'll be back eating her pussy because that's what you've done time and time again in the past.

Move on! But we can all tell you the same thing on here and you won't listen because you have those rose coloured glasses on. You even try to justify your "relationship" by stating she froze her eggs for you. Manipulative people lie! She's 40 years old. She froze her eggs because she may still want to have babies down the line with someone else.

If this woman loved you she would have commited by now. She wouldn't keep her ex around. That is not loveeeee!

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Actually I didn't block her she can still call me and text me but she just chose not to call me or text me ..

Do you think it's because of her pride that she hasn't called or texted me yet?
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Mark wrote:

There was a time when she was on my hook and I should've done something instead of sitting around on my ass and enjoying everything.


So, there is your answer.... you didnt really do anything before you learned about her boyfriend, you were enjoying the ride.... and then suddenly, when you learned she is with somebody, you started obsessing

I mean, how she can believe you, you really love her? you just seem to enjoy the drama and the chase...

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Posted by Mark-23
Posted by Vageenka
Posted by Mark-23
Posted by Vageenka
Posted by Mark-23
Posted by Vageenka
Ugh.

Oh my God I'm sorry but you are so pussy-whipped and don't even realize how dumb you sound and make yourself look.

She's 40 years old, kept her ex around, has a daughter and you're still obsessed with this woman. I mean for God's sake where is your pride? She kept her ex around because she wants him, not you. She strung you along because like you said, her ex didn't want her back and didn't want to commit to her.

You are her ego boost. You're the young guy who makes her feel sexy but her ex is the one she is still in love with and wants to settle down with... If he obliged she would have cut you out of her life immediately.

Are you OK with being someone else's second option? Are you OK with loving someone who keeps her ex around and has definitely fucked him while being in a relationship with you?!

You sound like a woman who is putting up with her cheating husband because she's too insecure to move on.
Her daughter isnt her bodyfriends it's from another relationship. Yes if he obliged. Now I'm gonna post my final ROUGH DRAFT letter once I'm done writing it and I'm gonna send it to her...

I'm fucking done.. I'm the commodity and I'm the one that she should be chasing not the other way around



Yes she should be but she doesn't love you! If you love someone you don't treat them like shit, and if you do you make it a priority to make things right because you love and care for them!

She keeps her ex around because that's who she wants. If he wanted her you would have been cut a long time ago. And you're the one chasing HER? You're the one writing letters?

This is disturbing


No im not writing a letter of love it's a letter of ultimatum. It's stating that I'm done period it's over



An ultimatum is like asking her to change and if not THEN you're done. That's what an ultimatum is. "Do this, act like this, commit to me or we are done."

You don't need to write her a letter. You blocked her and haven't spoken to her in 9 days. Why write her a letter? You subconsciously want her back in your life that's why. And if she comes back, she will continue to treat you like a doormat because you unconsciously allowed yourself to be treated like one. She knows she can keep her ex around and you'll be back eating her pussy because that's what you've done time and time again in the past.

Move on! But we can all tell you the same thing on here and you won't listen because you have those rose coloured glasses on. You even try to justify your "relationship" by stating she froze her eggs for you. Manipulative people lie! She's 40 years old. She froze her eggs because she may still want to have babies down the line with someone else.

If this woman loved you she would have commited by now. She wouldn't keep her ex around. That is not loveeeee!




Actually I didn't block her she can still call me and text me but she just chose not to call me or text me ..

Do you think it's because of her pride that she hasn't called or texted me yet?



Her pride mixed in with she's so used to you reaching out to her when shit hits the fan that she see's no point in reaching out to you. She knows you'll end up reaching out to her.
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How do I reverse this? Vageenka, The moment I reverse this I mean she's going to be back in my hands and we will be back to fucking and making love i swear you!!

she is definitely used to me reaching out to her all the time she is 200% sure that I'm going to reach out to her all the time!! And she's lost the fear of losing me!!

I learned the hard way that if you love a woman you keep her on her toes and you let her know that she will lose you the minute she stops working for you!!