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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.
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Not around Leos a lot but, what about constructive distraction? Like having him play with play doh or something hands on to take his rage. If its emotional, I have had moments where I let the child have his moment then when calm have them reflect on their behavior and show some of the consequences of their actions to prevent future lashes


i know all about that but with him he goes so far as hurting himself and others. I have to pin him down just to keep him from doing that. it is more of a rage.
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Any after school sports? Does he have plag dates or go to the park after school? Little lion needs to run out that energy but team sports is really where a leo can work out sharing and connecting

Full body listening

Teaching him 3 part breathing for when he gets upset

Kids mindfulness tips and videos on youtube

Teaching a kid to go within and find just 1 word for an emotion seems to help them a lot. They have a hard time explaining what they are feeling and it's extremely frustrating for both parties.

It all seems kinda corny but you would be surprised with how well kids accept and feel better with a mindfulness practice


We are short on money to get him in sports. I know he needs that. He is doing counseling at school. lol i ask him so how was counseling and he says it is good. then i ask him 'what did you talk about' lol he says i forgot. We do the breathing and worked when he was little but since he turned 7 he just wont stop at times.
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Not around Leos a lot but, what about constructive distraction? Like having him play with play doh or something hands on to take his rage. If its emotional, I have had moments where I let the child have his moment then when calm have them reflect on their behavior and show some of the consequences of their actions to prevent future lashes

i know all about that but with him he goes so far as hurting himself and others. I have to pin him down just to keep him from doing that. it is more of a rage.

How does he hurt himself or others?
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he will punch himself or choke himself. one time he grabbed a knife. he has started this just this year. he will hit you or throw something at you. he punches walls and a mirror once. his mouth gets bad to. he even bites hard.
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I have an Aries Father and Leo brother, they clashed the same way.

The best thing to do is not give attention to him when he is having his break downs. Sometimes they do it cause they know you will react. If you don't react, he will soon learn that he is not going to get what he wants by doing that. Don't get upset with him, flat out ignore him like he isn't even there.

Others have mentioned some good tips for helping him release his energy in more constructive ways. Get him involved with a hobby or sport.


i cant ignore it when he grabs a knife. this just started this year. he gets so out of control that he hurts people and himself. this is way beyond his little drama fits.
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Any after school sports? Does he have plag dates or go to the park after school? Little lion needs to run out that energy but team sports is really where a leo can work out sharing and connecting

Full body listening

Teaching him 3 part breathing for when he gets upset

Kids mindfulness tips and videos on youtube

Teaching a kid to go within and find just 1 word for an emotion seems to help them a lot. They have a hard time explaining what they are feeling and it's extremely frustrating for both parties.

It all seems kinda corny but you would be surprised with how well kids accept and feel better with a mindfulness practice

We are short on money to get him in sports. I know he needs that. He is doing counseling at school. lol i ask him so how was counseling and he says it is good. then i ask him 'what did you talk about' lol he says i forgot. We do the breathing and worked when he was little but since he turned 7 he just wont stop at times.

When the funds are available, Martial Arts would be really great for him I think.

You could even work on some hobbies at home. Does he like instruments, being artistic, using his hands? Start a project with him, something he would enjoy. Build something together that he can be proud of.
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when he starts to get upset if we catch it before it goes to far drawing is what he does. yeah i think Martial Arts would help a lot. They have him doing counseling at the school because he has gotten himself in so much trouble. But when i asked him what they talked about he says 'i dont remember' lol He is also a Leo moon.
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I have an Aries Father and Leo brother, they clashed the same way.

The best thing to do is not give attention to him when he is having his break downs. Sometimes they do it cause they know you will react. If you don't react, he will soon learn that he is not going to get what he wants by doing that. Don't get upset with him, flat out ignore him like he isn't even there.

Others have mentioned some good tips for helping him release his energy in more constructive ways. Get him involved with a hobby or sport.

i cant ignore it when he grabs a knife. this just started this year. he gets so out of control that he hurts people and himself. this is way beyond his little drama fits.

Yeah, I didn't see the part about the knife until after. That would legit scare the shit out of me.

Definitely lock the knives up where he can't access them. Remove anything he is using against you.
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We have been just taking his toys and games away and put them in the shed. it worked great when he was little and we would do the breathing. but this year like when he turned 7, he has taken it to a whole new level. he is my daughters son, She is a Cap with a Leo moon and his father is a Leo. The drama has always gotten out of hand at times. My daughter and her husband are divorcing. my daughter has always had a hard time with dealing with stress.
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Any after school sports? Does he have plag dates or go to the park after school? Little lion needs to run out that energy but team sports is really where a leo can work out sharing and connecting

Full body listening

Teaching him 3 part breathing for when he gets upset

Kids mindfulness tips and videos on youtube

Teaching a kid to go within and find just 1 word for an emotion seems to help them a lot. They have a hard time explaining what they are feeling and it's extremely frustrating for both parties.

It all seems kinda corny but you would be surprised with how well kids accept and feel better with a mindfulness practice

We are short on money to get him in sports. I know he needs that. He is doing counseling at school. lol i ask him so how was counseling and he says it is good. then i ask him 'what did you talk about' lol he says i forgot. We do the breathing and worked when he was little but since he turned 7 he just wont stop at times.

7 was kinda rough for us too. They're wanting to break free and be a little more independent but it's hard for them to express that and so the listening dives off the deepend.

Somehow, magically, at 7, they seem to forget everything that happened at school for the day lol. "What did ya do at school?" "Nothinnnn" 🤔

I understand about the cost of sports. I've always had to pick up an extra shift here or there to keep my girl in several activities. But as a fire sign and sag... i can say she thrives off teams, exercise and a busy schedule as her energy is off the charts.

I'm not sure how it is there but a lot of the times, community centers have cheaper sports. Especially for winter basketball.

And no shame at all applying for scholarships and going to gently used kids consignment for some gear. You just have to be on it ON IT finding out the exact date registration opens.

Anyways... it'll pass but I've never dealt with a little leo boy lol. And from what I've heard from my ex and other friends... they were a crazy handful.
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i so agree on the sports. back when i was young doing sports was free they are not that anymore. The schools had everything you needed. i know sports helped with my fire 😆
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Not around Leos a lot but, what about constructive distraction? Like having him play with play doh or something hands on to take his rage. If its emotional, I have had moments where I let the child have his moment then when calm have them reflect on their behavior and show some of the consequences of their actions to prevent future lashes

i know all about that but with him he goes so far as hurting himself and others. I have to pin him down just to keep him from doing that. it is more of a rage.

How does he hurt himself or others?

he will punch himself or choke himself. one time he grabbed a knife. he has started this just this year. he will hit you or throw something at you. he punches walls and a mirror once. his mouth gets bad to. he even bites hard.

I would look into putting him into something that can allow him to exhibit his rage in a more positive setting like sports or martial arts as others have recommended.

But I would also look into observing if there's an underlying cause. I dont really see kids reaching for knives and using self harm, clearly he knows that a sense of power he can use to get his way. Does he do this with his parents too?
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yeah it is a power thing for him. he knows it gets to us and he will push it to far. It is like he learned 'i didnt get my way i will show you' then cause himself pain or others pain to try and get his way. we dont give in just will pen him down. at this point there is no talking. We just ride the fire wave.
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Not around Leos a lot but, what about constructive distraction? Like having him play with play doh or something hands on to take his rage. If its emotional, I have had moments where I let the child have his moment then when calm have them reflect on their behavior and show some of the consequences of their actions to prevent future lashes

i know all about that but with him he goes so far as hurting himself and others. I have to pin him down just to keep him from doing that. it is more of a rage.

How does he hurt himself or others?

he will punch himself or choke himself. one time he grabbed a knife. he has started this just this year. he will hit you or throw something at you. he punches walls and a mirror once. his mouth gets bad to. he even bites hard.

I would look into putting him into something that can allow him to exhibit his rage in a more positive setting like sports or martial arts as others have recommended.

But I would also look into observing if there's an underlying cause. I dont really see kids reaching for knives and using self harm, clearly he knows that a sense of power he can use to get his way. Does he do this with his parents too?

I used to work with children who were taken from their homes because they were considered a danger to themselves and/or others. I've seen an 8-year-old with scars from self-harming. 😢
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So sad 😞
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Not around Leos a lot but, what about constructive distraction? Like having him play with play doh or something hands on to take his rage. If its emotional, I have had moments where I let the child have his moment then when calm have them reflect on their behavior and show some of the consequences of their actions to prevent future lashes

i know all about that but with him he goes so far as hurting himself and others. I have to pin him down just to keep him from doing that. it is more of a rage.

How does he hurt himself or others?

he will punch himself or choke himself. one time he grabbed a knife. he has started this just this year. he will hit you or throw something at you. he punches walls and a mirror once. his mouth gets bad to. he even bites hard.

I would look into putting him into something that can allow him to exhibit his rage in a more positive setting like sports or martial arts as others have recommended.

But I would also look into observing if there's an underlying cause. I dont really see kids reaching for knives and using self harm, clearly he knows that a sense of power he can use to get his way. Does he do this with his parents too?

I used to work with children who were taken from their homes because they were considered a danger to themselves and/or others. I've seen an 8-year-old with scars from self-harming. 😢
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yes i work at a school for teen girls and some have done that. i am trying to get this worked out or come up with something that will help him while he is young before it gets to that point.
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Posted by Black-Mamba Is he being abused?

A child just doesn't become violent like that unless he's being bullied or abused in some way

I would remove all weapons (knives) from anywhere he can get them

and try to understand why he is reacting in this way.


no he is not and there are children that have chemical imbalances. That can be what we a dealing with to. So we try to watch what he eats. lol but kids sometimes get there hand on stuff. He using it as a power thing when he doesnt get his way.
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.


My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.

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I have an Aries Father and Leo brother, they clashed the same way.

The best thing to do is not give attention to him when he is having his break downs. Sometimes they do it cause they know you will react. If you don't react, he will soon learn that he is not going to get what he wants by doing that. Don't get upset with him, flat out ignore him like he isn't even there.

Others have mentioned some good tips for helping him release his energy in more constructive ways. Get him involved with a hobby or sport.

i cant ignore it when he grabs a knife. this just started this year. he gets so out of control that he hurts people and himself. this is way beyond his little drama fits.

Yeah, I didn't see the part about the knife until after. That would legit scare the shit out of me.

Definitely lock the knives up where he can't access them. Remove anything he is using against you.

We have been just taking his toys and games away and put them in the shed. it worked great when he was little and we would do the breathing. but this year like when he turned 7, he has taken it to a whole new level. he is my daughters son, She is a Cap with a Leo moon and his father is a Leo. The drama has always gotten out of hand at times. My daughter and her husband are divorcing. my daughter has always had a hard time with dealing with stress.

Well there you go the home environment is not stable, divorce is a shock to kids and can make them do upsetting things
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His upsets are going to far though.
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.

My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.

i thought leos and aries fared well together?
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Not my son & ex husband. Aries always calling the Leo lazy and a loser... and unwilling to understand Leo’s viewpoint.
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I dont see this as purely a Leo thing. As you mentioned, the parents are going through divorce and this impacts young children severely. I was a self harmer at a very young age out of frustration. There was little communication in my household, particularly about feelings. So as someone mentioned above, I did not know how to express how I was feeling in a healthy way. I was never taught to do so. I feel like this is an opportunity for the parents, and for you, to get to know him on an emotional level. He needs to talk to his parents about how he feels and yes, have plenty of distraction. Since he is into drawing, push him to create when he feels overwhelmed. Or as someone said, a punching bag and wraps. These things do not cost as much as team sports, though I think it is important for early socialization skills. As a Leo, he would probably do well with these so if cost is the issue, save. Get him something in the interim that is affordable and make this a priority in your lives--all of you. How he learns to deal with this will shape what kind of man he is later in life. I am only speaking as a child of divorce and self harm.
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Posted by Black-Mamba Is he being abused?

A child just doesn't become violent like that unless he's being bullied or abused in some way

I would remove all weapons (knives) from anywhere he can get them

and try to understand why he is reacting in this way.

no he is not and there are children that have chemical imbalances. That can be what we a dealing with to. So we try to watch what he eats. lol but kids sometimes get there hand on stuff. He using it as a power thing when he doesnt get his way.

You know what's great for chemical imbalance?

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no, that does nothing. he is a fighter and that just makes him fight more. he fighter back and i proud that he does. so i dont need shitty advise like that right now.
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Are the parents in therapy as well?

Kids don't usually act out this severely unless it is agitated by something else.

Him being in therapy is good. However, if what ever is leading this behaviour is not being handled (the parents relationship with each other) it will just continue.

I know divorce. Been there, done that. Regardless of divorce....how is the coparenting working out?


his father is a self center ass. only does fathering when he is in the mood too
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I think sometimes even just letting him know you are there for him and recognizing he is having a tough time helps a lot. Sometimes our upset energy at the whole thing can make it worse for them as they feel it or experience it by adults reacting back.


we do that. i does lot of listening for him. i thin it has become a power play thing with him. He is very smart. also he will do what it takes to get what he wants. He is very high energy and loves attention. I think at times he get over stimulated and has a hard time calming down even though we have taught him some stuff. all that flies out the window once he hits a certain point. we try to catch it before it gets there but there are days, well if it is just a crazy day we can miss it and he is already there
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Not around Leos a lot but, what about constructive distraction? Like having him play with play doh or something hands on to take his rage. If its emotional, I have had moments where I let the child have his moment then when calm have them reflect on their behavior and show some of the consequences of their actions to prevent future lashes

i know all about that but with him he goes so far as hurting himself and others. I have to pin him down just to keep him from doing that. it is more of a rage.

How does he hurt himself or others?

he will punch himself or choke himself. one time he grabbed a knife. he has started this just this year. he will hit you or throw something at you. he punches walls and a mirror once. his mouth gets bad to. he even bites hard.

I would look into putting him into something that can allow him to exhibit his rage in a more positive setting like sports or martial arts as others have recommended.

But I would also look into observing if there's an underlying cause. I dont really see kids reaching for knives and using self harm, clearly he knows that a sense of power he can use to get his way. Does he do this with his parents too?

yeah it is a power thing for him. he knows it gets to us and he will push it to far. It is like he learned 'i didnt get my way i will show you' then cause himself pain or others pain to try and get his way. we dont give in just will pen him down. at this point there is no talking. We just ride the fire wave.

I get how in that point in time its necessary to hold him down for his safety and others. But it seems he might need therapy, not in a sense of medical condition but it seems he might be feeling powerless watching his stability of home growing apart. Maybe if he has a moment where he feels heard or having someone else assist him expressing himself can ease some of the underlying emotions that he doesnt seem to know how to conduct in a healthy manner yet.
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lol no kids at 7 years old know how to conduct a healthy manner. it is at this time where they are learning that. he has counseling at the school right now and never remembers what they talked about.
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Any after school sports? Does he have plag dates or go to the park after school? Little lion needs to run out that energy but team sports is really where a leo can work out sharing and connecting

Full body listening

Teaching him 3 part breathing for when he gets upset

Kids mindfulness tips and videos on youtube

Teaching a kid to go within and find just 1 word for an emotion seems to help them a lot. They have a hard time explaining what they are feeling and it's extremely frustrating for both parties.

It all seems kinda corny but you would be surprised with how well kids accept and feel better with a mindfulness practice

We are short on money to get him in sports. I know he needs that. He is doing counseling at school. lol i ask him so how was counseling and he says it is good. then i ask him 'what did you talk about' lol he says i forgot. We do the breathing and worked when he was little but since he turned 7 he just wont stop at times.

When the funds are available, Martial Arts would be really great for him I think.

You could even work on some hobbies at home. Does he like instruments, being artistic, using his hands? Start a project with him, something he would enjoy. Build something together that he can be proud of.

when he starts to get upset if we catch it before it goes to far drawing is what he does. yeah i think Martial Arts would help a lot. They have him doing counseling at the school because he has gotten himself in so much trouble. But when i asked him what they talked about he says 'i dont remember' lol He is also a Leo moon.

Ouu damn, double Leo / Fire, that's tough! My little Leo brother is a Sag Moon, all that fire can be hard to deal with at times.

Martial Arts is great for discipline. And if he likes Art, maybe start an Art project with him. Something you can do together and interact instead of him just doing it on his own. Doing things together that he enjoys can allow him to view you in a different light. Set up some paper or canvas', whip out the coloured pencils, markers, paints, whatever he likes to use and work on a piece together or each make your own, so long as you do it together. You could even try asking him to draw what upsets him.. he may not be able to put things into words so well, but I bet he can draw them! You could also do other types of crafts together.. Build and paint model planes / cars, something like that.
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my mistake the thing says he is a Gemini moon. i got to look up a chart for him. maybe it will help. i thought i did it on another ones year ago and it said he was a leo moon. ggrr lol. i will do that. he likes to draw. i even get him to help me in the garden. but i cant do that to much because of the time i work.
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Posted by IMightBeElle

Are the parents in therapy as well?

Kids don't usually act out this severely unless it is agitated by something else.

Him being in therapy is good. However, if what ever is leading this behaviour is not being handled (the parents relationship with each other) it will just continue.

I know divorce. Been there, done that. Regardless of divorce....how is the coparenting working out?


no the parents are not. dont tell them but i really think they should be. it that thing, i can say anything because i dont know what i am talking about lol. like i dont know anything at 48. i get the 'the world is different then when you were young mom' bull shit. please, it has not changed, the only thing changed is the tools we use to communicate with. people still sound the same as they did back when i was young. kids act the same back when i was young. lol
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Posted by Black-Mamba Is he being abused?

A child just doesn't become violent like that unless he's being bullied or abused in some way

I would remove all weapons (knives) from anywhere he can get them

and try to understand why he is reacting in this way.

no he is not and there are children that have chemical imbalances. That can be what we a dealing with to. So we try to watch what he eats. lol but kids sometimes get there hand on stuff. He using it as a power thing when he doesnt get his way.

You know what's great for chemical imbalance?

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Lmao but the only thing now is that kids can unlock the cell phone and call 911 on your ass and get cps involved. Not like the good ol days anymore

i know my younger siblings used to warn my parents not to touch them or they will call the cops...funny... i was thinking how these kids get so smart
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Lol I used to tell my stepdad to hit me so I could call the cops.. when kids stand up for yourself somehow it’s always your a bad kid. Someone needs to listen to kids these days..
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Posted by Black-Mamba Is he being abused?

A child just doesn't become violent like that unless he's being bullied or abused in some way

I would remove all weapons (knives) from anywhere he can get them

and try to understand why he is reacting in this way.

no he is not and there are children that have chemical imbalances. That can be what we a dealing with to. So we try to watch what he eats. lol but kids sometimes get there hand on stuff. He using it as a power thing when he doesnt get his way.

You know what's great for chemical imbalance?

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Lmao but the only thing now is that kids can unlock the cell phone and call 911 on your ass and get cps involved. Not like the good ol days anymore

i know my younger siblings used to warn my parents not to touch them or they will call the cops...funny... i was thinking how these kids get so smart

Lol I used to tell my stepdad to hit me so I could call the cops.. when kids stand up for yourself somehow it’s always your a bad kid. Someone needs to listen to kids these days..
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i agree, it is the teaching they that there is a better way to go about it. They just know at that moment that they dont like how they feel so lash out.
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I dont see this as purely a Leo thing. As you mentioned, the parents are going through divorce and this impacts young children severely. I was a self harmer at a very young age out of frustration. There was little communication in my household, particularly about feelings. So as someone mentioned above, I did not know how to express how I was feeling in a healthy way. I was never taught to do so. I feel like this is an opportunity for the parents, and for you, to get to know him on an emotional level. He needs to talk to his parents about how he feels and yes, have plenty of distraction. Since he is into drawing, push him to create when he feels overwhelmed. Or as someone said, a punching bag and wraps. These things do not cost as much as team sports, though I think it is important for early socialization skills. As a Leo, he would probably do well with these so if cost is the issue, save. Get him something in the interim that is affordable and make this a priority in your lives--all of you. How he learns to deal with this will shape what kind of man he is later in life. I am only speaking as a child of divorce and self harm.


my daughter works on getting him to talk about his feeling. she says to him to use his words but he hims to have a hard time with that once he gets past the line. she takes him walking and hiking. she tries to defuse it but there are days where shit hits the fan
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Posted by Black-Mamba Is he being abused?

A child just doesn't become violent like that unless he's being bullied or abused in some way

I would remove all weapons (knives) from anywhere he can get them

and try to understand why he is reacting in this way.

no he is not and there are children that have chemical imbalances. That can be what we a dealing with to. So we try to watch what he eats. lol but kids sometimes get there hand on stuff. He using it as a power thing when he doesnt get his way.

You know what's great for chemical imbalance?

Image Not Found

Lmao but the only thing now is that kids can unlock the cell phone and call 911 on your ass and get cps involved. Not like the good ol days anymore

i know my younger siblings used to warn my parents not to touch them or they will call the cops...funny... i was thinking how these kids get so smart

Lol I used to tell my stepdad to hit me so I could call the cops.. when kids stand up for yourself somehow it’s always your a bad kid. Someone needs to listen to kids these days..

i agree, it is the teaching they that there is a better way to go about it. They just know at that moment that they dont like how they feel so lash out.
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Exactly. Listening is the absolutely best thing you can do. That does not mean you agree with what they’ve done, but that you love them and are there for them. And teaching better ways to handle things is key. The good news is they learn to control themselves as they get older.
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Any after school sports? Does he have plag dates or go to the park after school? Little lion needs to run out that energy but team sports is really where a leo can work out sharing and connecting

Full body listening

Teaching him 3 part breathing for when he gets upset

Kids mindfulness tips and videos on youtube

Teaching a kid to go within and find just 1 word for an emotion seems to help them a lot. They have a hard time explaining what they are feeling and it's extremely frustrating for both parties.

It all seems kinda corny but you would be surprised with how well kids accept and feel better with a mindfulness practice

We are short on money to get him in sports. I know he needs that. He is doing counseling at school. lol i ask him so how was counseling and he says it is good. then i ask him 'what did you talk about' lol he says i forgot. We do the breathing and worked when he was little but since he turned 7 he just wont stop at times.

When the funds are available, Martial Arts would be really great for him I think.

You could even work on some hobbies at home. Does he like instruments, being artistic, using his hands? Start a project with him, something he would enjoy. Build something together that he can be proud of.

when he starts to get upset if we catch it before it goes to far drawing is what he does. yeah i think Martial Arts would help a lot. They have him doing counseling at the school because he has gotten himself in so much trouble. But when i asked him what they talked about he says 'i dont remember' lol He is also a Leo moon.

Ouu damn, double Leo / Fire, that's tough! My little Leo brother is a Sag Moon, all that fire can be hard to deal with at times.

Martial Arts is great for discipline. And if he likes Art, maybe start an Art project with him. Something you can do together and interact instead of him just doing it on his own. Doing things together that he enjoys can allow him to view you in a different light. Set up some paper or canvas', whip out the coloured pencils, markers, paints, whatever he likes to use and work on a piece together or each make your own, so long as you do it together. You could even try asking him to draw what upsets him.. he may not be able to put things into words so well, but I bet he can draw them! You could also do other types of crafts together.. Build and paint model planes / cars, something like that.

my mistake the thing says he is a Gemini moon. i got to look up a chart for him. maybe it will help. i thought i did it on another ones year ago and it said he was a leo moon. ggrr lol. i will do that. he likes to draw. i even get him to help me in the garden. but i cant do that to much because of the time i work.

Haha, no worries. Quality time with one another helps. Just keep engaging with him.. Inviting him to help you with the garden is great! Makes him feel useful and he can learn things from you while doing it. Little guys love helping their Dads / Granddads no matter how big or small the task. Try to include him, even if it's something small.
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he loves my ex, his papa. but now his papa lives in somewhere else with another family. He soo love attention but we can give it to him 24/7. he doesnt do well with his dad right now. he loves his mommy but take advantage of her. but your right it will take time for him to learn. he is only 7. He has one hell of a fire though, must say.
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I think sometimes even just letting him know you are there for him and recognizing he is having a tough time helps a lot. Sometimes our upset energy at the whole thing can make it worse for them as they feel it or experience it by adults reacting back.

we do that. i does lot of listening for him. i thin it has become a power play thing with him. He is very smart. also he will do what it takes to get what he wants. He is very high energy and loves attention. I think at times he get over stimulated and has a hard time calming down even though we have taught him some stuff. all that flies out the window once he hits a certain point. we try to catch it before it gets there but there are days, well if it is just a crazy day we can miss it and he is already there

Mm yea 😢 A lot of excess energy
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he is a very very high energy. he loves when you record him. he is such a ham. lol
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.

My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.
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my daughter is having to take him out of day care maybe because of some stuff. she works and i work so dont know what we will do there. he has been suspended school five times this past two months. most was over stupid shit and two of the times i really dont think it was his fault. the other kid got away with some shit. i can tell when my grandson lies and when he isnt. lol his eyes tell me. keep my calm is very hard with him, it has been a huge challenge for me. 😆 most of the time the triggers come from outside the home and when i daughter brings him home we have to deal with it. it can go on for hours.
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I think sometimes even just letting him know you are there for him and recognizing he is having a tough time helps a lot. Sometimes our upset energy at the whole thing can make it worse for them as they feel it or experience it by adults reacting back.

we do that. i does lot of listening for him. i thin it has become a power play thing with him. He is very smart. also he will do what it takes to get what he wants. He is very high energy and loves attention. I think at times he get over stimulated and has a hard time calming down even though we have taught him some stuff. all that flies out the window once he hits a certain point. we try to catch it before it gets there but there are days, well if it is just a crazy day we can miss it and he is already there

Mm yea 😢 A lot of excess energy

he is a very very high energy. he loves when you record him. he is such a ham. lol

Is he super lovey? I feel like it would he fun to have a big hearted leo boy to cuddle and be protective over me once he's older haha
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he is very very loving and very passionate. He love to cuddle and loves his back rubbed. He loves to make you laugh, but can go over board at times. love to play joke which can really go over board. 😆 when he first started school in Kindergarden he got a girlfriend and i told him now you cant be flirting with other girls. He told me ' why not? i want to collect them all' he is into pokemon. 😆 5 years old and by the end of the year he had 6 girl friends. i kid you not. he does have a big heart. i can see it in him but when he is upset he will do what it takes to get what he wants.
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Lowkey was thinking to slip him some CBD oil, but that's just me.

That stuff works wonders 👍

It really does! Would imagine it could help clam down an out of control little one quite easily. Definitely a healthier option than any medication that would be given. Only saying that because teachers seem to love to play doctor these days and tell parents to medicate their kids -_- Awful!
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i soo agree.
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I was wrong it says he is a Gemini moon. I will have to look more into his chart

I am a Gemini moon too.... crazy. Purely personally speaking, I had to learn how to react to things. I had to learn about other peoples emotions to understand my own. Idk if that helps, but I can relate with the frustration. You dont know what to do with it, so you exert the only control you feel you have. Its very strange but he needs to be taught that hurting himself and others is never the answer. He will probably need more communication and mental distraction than most kids. Again, speaking from my own experiences....

And I was a big attention seeker. In negative ways when positive didnt give me what I wanted. Big lessons in life that helped me, cue song "You cant always get what you want..." and "Life is not fair". I had to understand why I wanted the attention, and why negative attention really only hurt myself.
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.

My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.

my daughter is having to take him out of day care maybe because of some stuff. she works and i work so dont know what we will do there. he has been suspended school five times this past two months. most was over stupid shit and two of the times i really dont think it was his fault. the other kid got away with some shit. i can tell when my grandson lies and when he isnt. lol his eyes tell me. keep my calm is very hard with him, it has been a huge challenge for me. 😆 most of the time the triggers come from outside the home and when i daughter brings him home we have to deal with it. it can go on for hours.
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Yeah that’s how daycare was.. he accidentally almost drowned a kid under water 😳 after he was getting kicked.. in school he was bullied and someone would start something & he’d Finish it 😳😳 problem with daycare was a lack of supervision so we pulled him out, and my ex would pick him up from school and he’d have to go to his shop. School understood & other kids ended up getting expelled actually but they did have to punish him. He’s actually the sweetest kid!! Those elementary years were tough!! But we did survive somehow and now he’s 24.
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I dont see this as purely a Leo thing. As you mentioned, the parents are going through divorce and this impacts young children severely. I was a self harmer at a very young age out of frustration. There was little communication in my household, particularly about feelings. So as someone mentioned above, I did not know how to express how I was feeling in a healthy way. I was never taught to do so. I feel like this is an opportunity for the parents, and for you, to get to know him on an emotional level. He needs to talk to his parents about how he feels and yes, have plenty of distraction. Since he is into drawing, push him to create when he feels overwhelmed. Or as someone said, a punching bag and wraps. These things do not cost as much as team sports, though I think it is important for early socialization skills. As a Leo, he would probably do well with these so if cost is the issue, save. Get him something in the interim that is affordable and make this a priority in your lives--all of you. How he learns to deal with this will shape what kind of man he is later in life. I am only speaking as a child of divorce and self harm.

my daughter works on getting him to talk about his feeling. she says to him to use his words but he hims to have a hard time with that once he gets past the line. she takes him walking and hiking. she tries to defuse it but there are days where shit hits the fan
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If he has a hard time with words, maybe try to get him to draw or paint what he feels. However you can get him to express it. And idk if you have tried making him laugh when he acts out, not making fun of him... but trying to make him smile and lighten up. It is important he understands how his feelings affect others as well.

Someone mentioned outdoor therapy and that can be really good. Distractions are EVERYWHERE in this world and Gemini moons are like squirrels hahaha teaching him to mediatate and shut out the noise could help him.
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I was wrong it says he is a Gemini moon. I will have to look more into his chart

I am a Gemini moon too.... crazy. Purely personally speaking, I had to learn how to react to things. I had to learn about other peoples emotions to understand my own. Idk if that helps, but I can relate with the frustration. You dont know what to do with it, so you exert the only control you feel you have. Its very strange but he needs to be taught that hurting himself and others is never the answer. He will probably need more communication and mental distraction than most kids. Again, speaking from my own experiences....
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i think you so right on that. his trigger come mostly from outside the home and then we have to deal with his fire, just a way of saying. if he is past that line he really does not use his words. he goes straight for hitting and breaking things. i can feel his frustration when he gets home from school. i will try to get him to talk but there are times he just cant talk. plus he has learn that his anger can be used as a power play when he wants something. so it takes a bit but i have to get a feel if he is on a power trip or there is something else going on. it is hard because they feel almost the same. he really is a good kids and i do know he is at that age where he is learning about how to handle stress and strong emotions.
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Lowkey was thinking to slip him some CBD oil, but that's just me.

That stuff works wonders 👍

It really does! Would imagine it could help clam down an out of control little one quite easily. Definitely a healthier option than any medication that would be given. Only saying that because teachers seem to love to play doctor these days and tell parents to medicate their kids -_- Awful!
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I agree with you 💯👍
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I was wrong it says he is a Gemini moon. I will have to look more into his chart

I am a Gemini moon too.... crazy. Purely personally speaking, I had to learn how to react to things. I had to learn about other peoples emotions to understand my own. Idk if that helps, but I can relate with the frustration. You dont know what to do with it, so you exert the only control you feel you have. Its very strange but he needs to be taught that hurting himself and others is never the answer. He will probably need more communication and mental distraction than most kids. Again, speaking from my own experiences....

i think you so right on that. his trigger come mostly from outside the home and then we have to deal with his fire, just a way of saying. if he is past that line he really does not use his words. he goes straight for hitting and breaking things. i can feel his frustration when he gets home from school. i will try to get him to talk but there are times he just cant talk. plus he has learn that his anger can be used as a power play when he wants something. so it takes a bit but i have to get a feel if he is on a power trip or there is something else going on. it is hard because they feel almost the same. he really is a good kids and i do know he is at that age where he is learning about how to handle stress and strong emotions.
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You notice it and are actively trying to help, and that will mean a lot to him when he grows up.
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.

My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.

my daughter is having to take him out of day care maybe because of some stuff. she works and i work so dont know what we will do there. he has been suspended school five times this past two months. most was over stupid shit and two of the times i really dont think it was his fault. the other kid got away with some shit. i can tell when my grandson lies and when he isnt. lol his eyes tell me. keep my calm is very hard with him, it has been a huge challenge for me. 😆 most of the time the triggers come from outside the home and when i daughter brings him home we have to deal with it. it can go on for hours.

Yeah that’s how daycare was.. he accidentally almost drowned a kid under water 😳 after he was getting kicked.. in school he was bullied and someone would start something & he’d Finish it 😳😳 problem with daycare was a lack of supervision so we pulled him out, and my ex would pick him up from school and he’d have to go to his shop. School understood & other kids ended up getting expelled actually but they did have to punish him. He’s actually the sweetest kid!! Those elementary years were tough!! But we did survive somehow and now he’s 24.
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yeah my grandson has brought up about a boy who lies about him and that no one believes him. know he telling the truth because i can see it in his eyes. the teachers at the school i think just jump the gun instead of fining out what really happen. the one time he got suspended was because the kid he says is lying about him told a lie right in front of him to the teach and my grandson went straight for the boy and punched him. i am a big believer in that a person has the right to defend themselves and so dont want to discourage that in my grandson but he so needs to learn when and how. lol he is a fighter that is for sure.
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