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I was wrong it says he is a Gemini moon. I will have to look more into his chart

I am a Gemini moon too.... crazy. Purely personally speaking, I had to learn how to react to things. I had to learn about other peoples emotions to understand my own. Idk if that helps, but I can relate with the frustration. You dont know what to do with it, so you exert the only control you feel you have. Its very strange but he needs to be taught that hurting himself and others is never the answer. He will probably need more communication and mental distraction than most kids. Again, speaking from my own experiences....

i think you so right on that. his trigger come mostly from outside the home and then we have to deal with his fire, just a way of saying. if he is past that line he really does not use his words. he goes straight for hitting and breaking things. i can feel his frustration when he gets home from school. i will try to get him to talk but there are times he just cant talk. plus he has learn that his anger can be used as a power play when he wants something. so it takes a bit but i have to get a feel if he is on a power trip or there is something else going on. it is hard because they feel almost the same. he really is a good kids and i do know he is at that age where he is learning about how to handle stress and strong emotions.

You notice it and are actively trying to help, and that will mean a lot to him when he grows up.
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that makes me feel better. thank you
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.

My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.

my daughter is having to take him out of day care maybe because of some stuff. she works and i work so dont know what we will do there. he has been suspended school five times this past two months. most was over stupid shit and two of the times i really dont think it was his fault. the other kid got away with some shit. i can tell when my grandson lies and when he isnt. lol his eyes tell me. keep my calm is very hard with him, it has been a huge challenge for me. 😆 most of the time the triggers come from outside the home and when i daughter brings him home we have to deal with it. it can go on for hours.

Yeah that’s how daycare was.. he accidentally almost drowned a kid under water 😳 after he was getting kicked.. in school he was bullied and someone would start something & he’d Finish it 😳😳 problem with daycare was a lack of supervision so we pulled him out, and my ex would pick him up from school and he’d have to go to his shop. School understood & other kids ended up getting expelled actually but they did have to punish him. He’s actually the sweetest kid!! Those elementary years were tough!! But we did survive somehow and now he’s 24.

yeah my grandson has brought up about a boy who lies about him and that no one believes him. know he telling the truth because i can see it in his eyes. the teachers at the school i think just jump the gun instead of fining out what really happen. the one time he got suspended was because the kid he says is lying about him told a lie right in front of him to the teach and my grandson went straight for the boy and punched him. i am a big believer in that a person has the right to defend themselves and so dont want to discourage that in my grandson but he so needs to learn when and how. lol he is a fighter that is for sure.
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Teachers see the last thing not the first thing unfortunately. Yes I think being a fighter & standing up for yourself and others is good. My son also stood up for friends..

But yes we have to teach them they can’t just take the matter into their own hands. I think what really helped was getting teachers and principal to understand, and work together with them instead of against each other. That really made a difference because the school realized what was really going on.
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I have an Aries Father and Leo brother, they clashed the same way.

The best thing to do is not give attention to him when he is having his break downs. Sometimes they do it cause they know you will react. If you don't react, he will soon learn that he is not going to get what he wants by doing that. Don't get upset with him, flat out ignore him like he isn't even there.

Others have mentioned some good tips for helping him release his energy in more constructive ways. Get him involved with a hobby or sport.

i cant ignore it when he grabs a knife. this just started this year. he gets so out of control that he hurts people and himself. this is way beyond his little drama fits.

Yeah, I didn't see the part about the knife until after. That would legit scare the shit out of me.

Definitely lock the knives up where he can't access them. Remove anything he is using against you.

We have been just taking his toys and games away and put them in the shed. it worked great when he was little and we would do the breathing. but this year like when he turned 7, he has taken it to a whole new level. he is my daughters son, She is a Cap with a Leo moon and his father is a Leo. The drama has always gotten out of hand at times. My daughter and her husband are divorcing. my daughter has always had a hard time with dealing with stress.

Ah Ha! Trouble at home will often times make kids act out. If your daughter and her husband have been having issues, the child is aware of this. He is probably doing this for attention. Did they recently decide to divorce or has this been long coming? If things were a bit more tense at home since he turned 7, that could be a large part of the cause. Not placing blame at all, things happen and relationships aren't always meant to last.. But if they have been having issues with one another and are going to separate, kids see that and will sometimes act out. Often times I see or hear of this behaviour after the separation living in separate homes, but it can start before if the child is aware of what is going on.
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it has been long in coming. i dont really like my daughter soon to be ex. hehehe. he is way to self center. he only does the father/dad when he is in the mood to be a dad and then gets mad at his son because they are not doing that great father and son stuff. i think his dad gets this perfect picture in his head about life and relationship and when it doesnt goes his way pouts and whines. his dad is a weight lifter and he buys a car he cant afford and close he cant afford. right now he is living with a married woman. 😆 my ex wishes him died. well he would tell my daughter she was ugly and needed to do something about it. he would say things like that and then some. as far as i know he has never physically hurt her, but then i dont think she would tell if he did. she know i would kill him after i hung by his balls in a tree out in the mountains where no one fined him for weeks. i know cool old mine shafts too. bawhahaha
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I need some advise from male Leos. My grandson is a Leo and 7 years old. He cant seem to get control of his emotions and just loose his shit. He has been getting into trouble at school and home. He goes off and will start to hit and brake things. He gets overly dramatic over little things. Yes i know boys can get wild at times but this is way beyond that. Me being Aries our fires can clash. I am trying to teach him to get control of himself but it doesnt always go well. That boy can get down right mean. I could use tips on a better way to handle his break downs.

My son is a Leo, and my ex husband an Aries. Yes they majorly clash and can’t understand each other!! Thanks god for the Sag lol.

So my son is ADHD so you can imagine.. a handful for sure! Well he always broke things, he’s just destructive completely accidental. When he was little my ex MIL taught him it was okay to pick things up but he must put them down gently. It’s a matter of slowing him down.. I don’t know how but she did a good job of it.. she also played with him a lot and wore him out. You don’t need organized sports. You can take him to do stuff walks, hikes, runs in the form of games even.

Also when he was 9 we had to take him out of daycare because he was absolutely losing it if pushed. So what I did was teach him about anger and his anger hole.. meaning inside of him .. it’s okay to be angry, be upset, but you need to keep it on low inside you.. if it’s on high.. any little trigger is going to set you off. So I’d always ask him where he was.. and we’d have activities to expend the excess energy, the excess emotions, etc. big hugs too.. conversations, listen.. cuz Leo’s are big ole teddy bears and need lots of love. They just are impulsive and need some help with that.

my daughter is having to take him out of day care maybe because of some stuff. she works and i work so dont know what we will do there. he has been suspended school five times this past two months. most was over stupid shit and two of the times i really dont think it was his fault. the other kid got away with some shit. i can tell when my grandson lies and when he isnt. lol his eyes tell me. keep my calm is very hard with him, it has been a huge challenge for me. 😆 most of the time the triggers come from outside the home and when i daughter brings him home we have to deal with it. it can go on for hours.

Yeah that’s how daycare was.. he accidentally almost drowned a kid under water 😳 after he was getting kicked.. in school he was bullied and someone would start something & he’d Finish it 😳😳 problem with daycare was a lack of supervision so we pulled him out, and my ex would pick him up from school and he’d have to go to his shop. School understood & other kids ended up getting expelled actually but they did have to punish him. He’s actually the sweetest kid!! Those elementary years were tough!! But we did survive somehow and now he’s 24.

yeah my grandson has brought up about a boy who lies about him and that no one believes him. know he telling the truth because i can see it in his eyes. the teachers at the school i think just jump the gun instead of fining out what really happen. the one time he got suspended was because the kid he says is lying about him told a lie right in front of him to the teach and my grandson went straight for the boy and punched him. i am a big believer in that a person has the right to defend themselves and so dont want to discourage that in my grandson but he so needs to learn when and how. lol he is a fighter that is for sure.
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Our son was bullied at first school and used to come home very angry, that's why I got the punch bag saying to him that it wasnt okay to hit people but take it out on the bag. I used to have a go at it to show him how to use it....he loved that lol. We went up to the school as soon as he told us about the bully and i said to the board that if they didn't stop it, I'd report them to the press. Within three days the kid who was picking on our lad had a special needs teacher and didn't come near him again. I was very assertive lol with them and asked how they'd feel about an article in the newspaper about their school allowing bullying...

Now he's a grown man he tells me it's the best thing that happened to him as it's made him very strong. He's no fear of people, is passionate, driven and hardworking but not angry anymore.
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Are you guys saying bad things about his father in front of him? I hope not. Children tend to take it very personally when someone insults a parent, even if the insult it true. It's like telling him he's half-bad.


No. my grandson doesnt need that. I think it is wrong to do such a thing. plus he when he says stuff about his dad we tell him not to talk like that even though his dad is an ass.
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I have an Aries Father and Leo brother, they clashed the same way.

The best thing to do is not give attention to him when he is having his break downs. Sometimes they do it cause they know you will react. If you don't react, he will soon learn that he is not going to get what he wants by doing that. Don't get upset with him, flat out ignore him like he isn't even there.

Others have mentioned some good tips for helping him release his energy in more constructive ways. Get him involved with a hobby or sport.

i cant ignore it when he grabs a knife. this just started this year. he gets so out of control that he hurts people and himself. this is way beyond his little drama fits.

Yeah, I didn't see the part about the knife until after. That would legit scare the shit out of me.

Definitely lock the knives up where he can't access them. Remove anything he is using against you.

We have been just taking his toys and games away and put them in the shed. it worked great when he was little and we would do the breathing. but this year like when he turned 7, he has taken it to a whole new level. he is my daughters son, She is a Cap with a Leo moon and his father is a Leo. The drama has always gotten out of hand at times. My daughter and her husband are divorcing. my daughter has always had a hard time with dealing with stress.

Ah Ha! Trouble at home will often times make kids act out. If your daughter and her husband have been having issues, the child is aware of this. He is probably doing this for attention. Did they recently decide to divorce or has this been long coming? If things were a bit more tense at home since he turned 7, that could be a large part of the cause. Not placing blame at all, things happen and relationships aren't always meant to last.. But if they have been having issues with one another and are going to separate, kids see that and will sometimes act out. Often times I see or hear of this behaviour after the separation living in separate homes, but it can start before if the child is aware of what is going on.

it has been long in coming. i dont really like my daughter soon to be ex. hehehe. he is way to self center. he only does the father/dad when he is in the mood to be a dad and then gets mad at his son because they are not doing that great father and son stuff. i think his dad gets this perfect picture in his head about life and relationship and when it doesnt goes his way pouts and whines. his dad is a weight lifter and he buys a car he cant afford and close he cant afford. right now he is living with a married woman. 😆 my ex wishes him died. well he would tell my daughter she was ugly and needed to do something about it. he would say things like that and then some. as far as i know he has never physically hurt her, but then i dont think she would tell if he did. she know i would kill him after i hung by his balls in a tree out in the mountains where no one fined him for weeks. i know cool old mine shafts too. bawhahaha
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Ugh sounds all too familiar.... my Libra sun Aries moon father... therapy is wise so Im glad your grandson is hopefully already getting help with it.
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I have a Leo son. He needs a strong father figure. Nothing puts lion cubs in their place like the King of the Jungle. Leos respond to strong authority. Someone in his life should be stronger than him, set boundaries, but also give him lots of loving attention (especially when he stays in line). This helps the Leo get the attention he NEEDS and also helps him feel secure in life. Kids should never feel like they run the show... this makes them very insecure because deep inside they know they shouldn't be running the show. If no one gives him boundaries he'll be scared and this leads to aggression. Mother figures can also help with this by carrying through on their discipline... not bending simply because the Leo throws a fit. He really needs the sense that he's not in control to feel comfortable.
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I have an Aries Father and Leo brother, they clashed the same way.

The best thing to do is not give attention to him when he is having his break downs. Sometimes they do it cause they know you will react. If you don't react, he will soon learn that he is not going to get what he wants by doing that. Don't get upset with him, flat out ignore him like he isn't even there.

Others have mentioned some good tips for helping him release his energy in more constructive ways. Get him involved with a hobby or sport.

i cant ignore it when he grabs a knife. this just started this year. he gets so out of control that he hurts people and himself. this is way beyond his little drama fits.

Yeah, I didn't see the part about the knife until after. That would legit scare the shit out of me.

Definitely lock the knives up where he can't access them. Remove anything he is using against you.

We have been just taking his toys and games away and put them in the shed. it worked great when he was little and we would do the breathing. but this year like when he turned 7, he has taken it to a whole new level. he is my daughters son, She is a Cap with a Leo moon and his father is a Leo. The drama has always gotten out of hand at times. My daughter and her husband are divorcing. my daughter has always had a hard time with dealing with stress.

Ah Ha! Trouble at home will often times make kids act out. If your daughter and her husband have been having issues, the child is aware of this. He is probably doing this for attention. Did they recently decide to divorce or has this been long coming? If things were a bit more tense at home since he turned 7, that could be a large part of the cause. Not placing blame at all, things happen and relationships aren't always meant to last.. But if they have been having issues with one another and are going to separate, kids see that and will sometimes act out. Often times I see or hear of this behaviour after the separation living in separate homes, but it can start before if the child is aware of what is going on.

it has been long in coming. i dont really like my daughter soon to be ex. hehehe. he is way to self center. he only does the father/dad when he is in the mood to be a dad and then gets mad at his son because they are not doing that great father and son stuff. i think his dad gets this perfect picture in his head about life and relationship and when it doesnt goes his way pouts and whines. his dad is a weight lifter and he buys a car he cant afford and close he cant afford. right now he is living with a married woman. 😆 my ex wishes him died. well he would tell my daughter she was ugly and needed to do something about it. he would say things like that and then some. as far as i know he has never physically hurt her, but then i dont think she would tell if he did. she know i would kill him after i hung by his balls in a tree out in the mountains where no one fined him for weeks. i know cool old mine shafts too. bawhahaha

Sounds like the Father is majority of the problem here. Little boys need a good male role model, your poor little grandson does not seem to have that with his Father. That makes me sad! My ex didn't have a Father figure in his life and it effected him as an adult. He still has tantrums and throws fits of rage as a 29 year old. I know his upbringing weighed on this heavily. It's too bad your ex wasn't still around, he sounded like a great Father figure to him. I think that's almost what he needs, a good man to help shape him. Do they have the Big Brothers / Big Sisters program where you live? That is a great program for little fellas who don't have a good male figure in their lives.

I am very sorry for all that your daughter has gone through. I know that can't be easy on her 😢
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i think it is still around. i will have to bring it up to my daughter.
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is there something going on in his personal life?


I know he is having a hard time at school with another boy. Mostly i think he is having a hard time dealing with strong emotions. There are times he really can say what is going on and starts lashing out. I can see it in his face, it is like he cant fine the right words. by then things are to tense and he looses it. He also has learned his anger can be used as a power play too. so there are two things happening here. He did tell of a boy who lies about him. The boy was telling the teacher something about him that was a lie and so my grandson went up and punched him in the face for lying right in front of the teacher. it mostly something that happen away from home with other people and we have to deal with his bad mood.
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is there something going on in his personal life?

I know he is having a hard time at school with another boy. Mostly i think he is having a hard time dealing with strong emotions. There are times he really can say what is going on and starts lashing out. I can see it in his face, it is like he cant fine the right words. by then things are to tense and he looses it. He also has learned his anger can be used as a power play too. so there are two things happening here. He did tell of a boy who lies about him. The boy was telling the teacher something about him that was a lie and so my grandson went up and punched him in the face for lying right in front of the teacher. it mostly something that happen away from home with other people and we have to deal with his bad mood.
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Maybe the situation in his real life is taking a toll on him but as a kid he might not know how to control his emotions and outbursts. It's easier to release than to hold it in sometimes, because thats alot of stress for a little kid. Let him have a heart to heart talk about whats going on and make him understand why his behaviour isnt okay, there has to be better outlets. How its inappropriate to hit others even if he is angry

i've also dealt with kids in that age group for my public health placements, and with one of the kids it got so bad that he go expelled, he doesnt stay in school for more than 2 weeks until he gets suspended. he's a sweet kid but he has some violent tendencies, and he requires special attention
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I’ve asked Aries who was a nightmare child and he said - wrestle with him! Like seriously.

But when I’ve mentioned knife he said there is definitely something wrong here. He said never in his life being total fireball and always in trouble - he never had a thought of grabbing a knife or shit.

So here my dear. From another fire who is still out of control after 50 - seek help!

And I am telling you...mine is the mental case who will throw a man over the fence without thinking what’s next...and if he is saying seek help - seek help. 7 is already an age when they know better.

Good luck. Keep us posted.
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I’ve asked Aries who was a nightmare child and he said - wrestle with him! Like seriously.

But when I’ve mentioned knife he said there is definitely something wrong here. He said never in his life being total fireball and always in trouble - he never had a thought of grabbing a knife or shit.

So here my dear. From another fire who is still out of control after 50 - seek help!

And I am telling you...mine is the mental case who will throw a man over the fence without thinking what’s next...and if he is saying seek help - seek help. 7 is already an age when they know better.

Good luck. Keep us posted.


we have. my daughter found a great program that seems to be helping my grandson. Also they are doing family counseling now.