LEO MALE/SAG MOON cut me off! What does this mean?

Hi! I am a 25 year old Cancer female. I was dating LEO #1 for 4 years, until about 4 months ago we broke up, basically his decision because we were fighting, he needed time to "find himself", before he took the plunge. We are both 25 years old.Fast forward 4 months later. The past two months I have been dating LEO #2 (Sag Moon). He is 8 years older than me, he's 33 years old, very, very successful, typical leo, very outgoing, social, cocky, LOVES traveling, taking me to extravagant dinners, always paying for everything, chivalrous yet I was skeptical from the beginning because he seemed to have controlling tendencies and he was pursuing me/courting me quite aggressively. Everything happened very fast, with him doing 200% of the initiating.
He has disclosed that he has been "falling for me". He once accidentally said "I love you " during a sober make out session..So this past weekend he takes me to a black tie event on Friday. During the day, I found out my ex LEO #1 was going to be going on his first date since we broke up. As a result, I was a mess, in a funky mood, didn't eat all day, and ended up eventually becoming extremely intoxicated to the point of blackout. Had an awesome time together at the event, however, we had a 30 minute car ride home to his house in which he drove back, from that point I do not remember anything. LEO #2 was supposed to be heading out on a road trip to see family later that night. (3 hour drive)
Fast forward to Saturday morning. I wake up in my bed. I drove home and shouldn't have. I look at my phone. I see a text from me to LEO #2 saying "I cannot believe I thought you were a gentlemen, don't ever speak to me again!" and he replied with "Wasn't planning on it. You're dumber then you look, I have never been so disrespected!!".
My guess is that in the car and on the way home, I told him I didn't like him and perhaps was mean ( a mix of emotions). No communication between us over the weekend. I did however send him a funny pic (inside joke). No response. I receive a text from Leo#2 this morning saying (and this is 48 hours later) , "Why did you send that to me?" I replied, " a peace offering :/"
He replied, "Not interested in a peace offering. You messed up, deal with it". I reply, "I respect that." I then also send, "It's funny because last night I was at a friends watching a movie and The Island came on (our favorite), and I thought of you! But I respect your decision completely. Have an awesome time on your trip."

What's your question here?


You're drinking to the point of blacking out and fudging up a nice relationship. Not sure he has the problem.

BigGirlPanties---haha fair enough, well played, perhaps I need to put on my "Big Girl Panties". The message cut me off, but although I handled myself completely wrong, and my behavior was definitely disrespectful and disturbing, I typically do not drink alcohol often, which I know is NO excuse...my question is this:

Why did he reach out today only to reiterate his anger?
Is it really over? and/or what steps do I take from here?

He has had conversations before with me where he said he feels im not "200% in this" which with all due respect is perhaps the case because I just got out of a relationship however, you can't plan when things happen. Do I need to reiterate anything at this point or just leave him alone?

It looks to me that you tried to re-connect with the cute text by acting as if nothing happened. avoidance, which I personally find insulting. You did not take responsibility, maybe cus you dont know what it was you did to hurt him cus you were in a black out. He reached out cus he wanted you to do that...take responsbility. not avoid.

My advice is to come totally clean with 100% honesty. Tell him you were in a black out and dont remember, that you want to know how you hurt him, then own it totally.

You've got nothing to lose at this point. Before you do this, ask yourself truly...are you in this fully? Do you love and want him or is he just a placebo to help soothe the loss of the other guy. His feelings matter, here...dont toy with him.

Not ashamed! LOL to be honest with you , I was thinking...I even copied my text! Anyone could know ... oh well! What to do now?

I am fearful that even if he does come back, which I am thinking he perhaps will ...will I even be treated the same? and my guess is most likely no...so would I want that anyways?

Also any insight into this situation in general as far as what he's thinking? I know it's difficult to tell and typically I do not "Put all my eggs in one basket" when it comes to relying on astrology/zodiac sign for an explanation, but he truly is a leo, through and through if I've ever seen one.

What is he thinking? Can a LEO truly cut people out and never turn back?

wow. getting so drunk you can't remember your bad behaviour is an absolute pet hate and deal-breaker for me and it's the principal reason i've stopped seeing the crab man. it was all too reminiscent of the early years of my marriage when my ex husband was abusive towards me when he'd had a drink but could never remember what had gone down. in his mind, he had nothing to apologise for and so never owned his behaviour and took responsibility for the damage.

like you, i don't drink a huge amount but recently i've certainly got drunk enough to forget exactly what's happened and it fills me with SHAME!! i'm quick to apologise to whomever i may have offended even if i'm not entirely sure how i've offended them.

people who get drunk and act like asses and then refuse to apologise afterwards or carry on like nothing's happened MUST accept responsibiity if others turn their back on their behaviour. to not even attempt to find out what you've done implies you don't give a crap and there aren't many people who will put up with that shit.

also.....if anything happened whilst you were in the company of his friends to embarrass him, he would definitely find it even harder to forgive. there's nothing worse than being publicly humiliated and then to be seen out with that person again....makes you look like a mug.

You need to join AA or something before you consider getting into any relationship. Or driving.

You just don't have the maturity right now to handle such responsibility. Get help.

Thank you for the comments and I do appreciate the concern, however I am human, it was merely a result of intense emotions, the right timing ...colliding with alcohol. I am not someone who "eases" my pain with alcohol , it was a one-time occurrence. Perhaps this has been my first time single, out and about in a social setting where alcohol is involved (I rarely drink or go to bars, haven't since college) so perhaps I neeed to be aware of my low tolerance if anything!

Anyways, the Leo did text me from his trip, and said "Maybe we'll talk when I get home...I'm still extremely upset and contempt from last Saturday."


Thoughts? Any idea where this might go from here? Thanks!

And also, FYI---this detail was left out...I did wake up early the next morning, headed to the gym around 7:30AM and did call him, attempted to twice. Left a very, clear conclude and direct apology, taking full responsibility and admitting that the last hour (car ride and his house) were a blur, I didn't play victim but merely reached out with a sincere tone.

Posted by pinkstarsxx
Thank you for the comments and I do appreciate the concern, however I am human, it was merely a result of intense emotions, the right timing ...colliding with alcohol. I am not someone who "eases" my pain with alcohol , it was a one-time occurrence. Perhaps this has been my first time single, out and about in a social setting where alcohol is involved (I rarely drink or go to bars, haven't since college) so perhaps I neeed to be aware of my low tolerance if anything!

Anyways, the Leo did text me from his trip, and said "Maybe we'll talk when I get home...I'm still extremely upset and contempt from last Saturday."


Thoughts? Any idea where this might go from here? Thanks!

yeah well we're all human and these things happen. you're clearly not an alchie but have you asked him to state what it was that he holds you in 'contempt' for? it seems like you're flailing around in the dark trying to recall what happened when he can surely give you a direct answer. you have to at least show that you want to know what it is you need to make amends for.

i personally don't think you should cater to his ego cos that's way too shallow and leos aren't dumbasses...they know when flattery is devisive. you should cater to his FEELINGS cos you've clearly hurt them somehow....you need to find out how you managed to do that so that you can give him a clear and honest reason for that behaviour.

remember HE'S only human too 🙂

personally i don't like to drink too much cos it goes straight to my mouth and things come out of it that horrify me when i'm told about it the next day. i always ask though lol....you can only apologise but you have to know what you're apologising for.

Update: so the angry Leo is still on his trip. It's been 10 days barely no contact other than what I've noted above. On Saturday I did actually butt dial him (I know this sounds too obvious) but it was an honest accident. I hung up after noticing my phone wasnt locked and dialed his number for 24 seconds, and hung up. I receive a text immediately from him saying "really?" , immediately after. I said "At a Bachelorette party, butt dial, my bad". He then goes "right". I was a bit annoyed with his need to continue to "punish me" so I said "Grow up". and he replied "Good luck with that"...I then responded with "Enough of this. I know I messed up, I would like to take the opportunity to learn what I actually did to upset you, I want to know---believe it or not. Have an awesome week!!


So that was on Saturday. He comes back from the trip I believe either tonight or if not definitely tomorrow. Well, one of his good friends had connected with me on Facebook when him and I originally got together. He mentioned this friend was someone he recently met in the part two years but had also ended up taking out his ex gf of 4 years(Leo and his ex met this friend at the same time) but they were broken up but he still said it was a strange move on this friends end which I understand .

Well this friend is ironically also close friends with my older cousin, and once he connected with me on FB, he started to chat me, just casual conversation and had nothing but good things to say about his Leo friend. So today, this friend FB chatted me and was being a but flirtatious. Invited me to FL this weekend, told me to bring a friend, and also went as far as saying "I'll text you flight info and pick you up!" I said "I don't think my Leo man would like that very much" and he responds with "oh! Are you and Leo dating?" I dodged the question and somehow it went to how he knows my cousin. I said "do you typically invite random women down to your bachelor pad in FL?" He said "well since I've known your cousin for 20 years, I don't consider you a stranger!" He then mentioned Leo again and asked "so are you and Leo exclusive?" I couldn't ignore it this time so I said " Is this a trick question? Haha, it's a bit complicated, not too sure, but he's awesome and I'm not seeing anyone else". He then proceeds to continue on with FL plans , saying he'd text me , etc. I logged off and never responded

Obviously I would want to know if my friend was hitting on my woman

**+Continued UPDATE: so I immediately panicked and thought how shady, I wanted to tell my Leo not to hurt him but to look out for his best interest. I noticed he was on FB mobile so I sent him a message saying "this is a bit random but have you talked to your buddy Joe lately". I then realized that if he wants to have the "talk" when he gets home I want him to approach me naturally rather than be fueled by jealously and/or drama, so I never texted him but regretted sending him a msg on FB.

Well he just responded 3 hours later to my FB msg with "I've only spoken to him via FB, why?"

I have not responded. What do I do? I know initially the best idea would be to have not shared that information unless he reached out to me first about our fight.

My thoughts initially---I just didn't want my words to get twisted , have his friend somehow twist things and have it come back to bite me in the a** if he didn't hear it from me first.

I can see that, but not telling him might do the same? If he had no prior knowledge then I wouldn't have said anything but he expressed his concern about him messaging me before because it happened right when I was next to him the first time which is why I originally thought since he already knows, or has reservations that maybe I should tell him ?

I actually made a mistake and didn't realize that he is a LEO sun and LEO moon, so LEO ALL AROUND! 🙂
But I am a cancer, gemini moon, just a very loyal person.

Update: so Leo responded to my FB msg and I wish I never wrote it originally. I just said "I wasn't reaching out to you originally with concern of him being shady, but when he was asking repeatedly if we were together still/exclusive,to be honest, I didn't know what to say, or how close you two even are, or how much you talk... I just knew that I didn't want to upset or disrespect you any further.. Have a good night!"

The Leo responded :"He's shady doesn't surprise me, no worries but thank you. And in no way your fault. Your slowly but surely creeping into my good graces.Well maybe not surely, but I think u get my point, thank you!"

Um, .."but you're slowly but surely creeping into my good graces...." Then "well maybe not surely but you know what I mean"--sounds like he's trying to be controlling/play games/"punish" me stop or keep me guessing? Like he's enjoying it? He comes home tomorrow. Any thoughts?

and I am confident he will talk to me, he wouldn't have lasted this long and I am pretty sure he's not deliberately ignoring me. He left for a trip the next day after our initial fight for about 11 days, and it would be typical, at least if I were in his shoes, to not deal with things until I get home because what would the point be?

Well it's basically done! I messed up. Took the advice and reached out to him by asking "How was your trip, love?" No response for five hours. Typically I would not hound , as I realize someone is busy, however, I realized at this point he was purposely ignoring me.

I snapped. I then proceed to send a text hours later saying " Alright, love. Let's state the obvious...it's clear to me that you do not want to make conversation and I respect that. However, I am also not one to beat a dead horse. Hopefully we can be friends one day. I do have two studly shirts that you left behind, let me know if you need them".

He then responded 30 seconds later saying "I do, I'll meet you for drinks next week to grab them". I then respond (which I shouldn't have) saying "I'd be lying if I said your response didn't make me laugh, punk (a name we use), ...but i'll be out of town next week. I get it--lol---I'll drop it off before I leave, no worries. Sound like a plan?"

(No response). I then proceed to go a little, well crazy, because it's clear he's ignoring me. At this point, I lost self control and didn't care. I then say " Alright, you're too much of a hard ass, you win. I don't want to play games nor do I want to drag this out---no hard feelings". (no response). I then send a final message (yes I know I went over board, but I've been silent for 2 weeks)

"Joe,You're killing me, Smalls! At the very least, I'd like to hear in your own words and move forward, regardless if you do not want to speak. It has been bothering me---I'm only human. Enough games, already. If you do not want to give me the opportunity, just tell me and I'll send your things".

NO response! UGH!

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Posted by tiziani
Thank you!

It's going a little confusing and very slow paced actually. But I wouldn't be a Libra if it was going any other way in these early stages I'm sure.

There's nothing like the Fire signs.

Love me some Leebs!

Welcome🙂

Any Advice/feedback? Thank you

Posted by sugaries
You said in your 3rd message that you were done, basically. Why do you need confirmation from him to move on if you'd already made your mind up?

I meant "It's done" thinking that it seems like in his head "it's done" hence his reason for ignoring me/playing the silent game?

Been undergoing nearly identical situation with a sag. I feel you, doll. Just sending you warm vibes and a hug. Stop the communication totally. Dont give when he doesnt. Esp text, its a horrid way to communicate.

Im on a self imposed text timeout. Next step is to amputate my fingers.

Hang in there.

Aw ha! Thanks BigGirlPanties! You made my day!

UPDATE: So oddly enough, the Leo reached out and texted me this: Maybe one day you'll get off that high horse of yours cause right now your shit stinks! Have a great life!"

WHAT!? Beyond confused. I thought he was done for good (as far as expecting him to respond). What is he looking for?