Libra Girl That's FED UP with Libra Men!

Yes I confess I am a Libra but......I'm on the cusp! Anyways I have this guy friend who I now like. We've known each other over a year now and we actually have gotten somewhat close because he was good friends with my bf who is no longer here. It's been really tough trying to move on after losing my bf because he was just as close to perfect as you can get! It's been tough for him as well. Anyways we have hung out a couple of times. The last time was really weird though because it ended up being a date (of course me being a Libra I was oblivious to this until well into it) and I ended up staying over with him. Things got pretty heavy but we didn't go all the way because of my "female" reasons, but he wanted to. Since then things have been ok not weird lol I usually text once a day or every other day to ask stupid stuff or to make jokes because that's just me...I'm silly, and he always responds.

However, if I get sarcastic or say something bold he doesn't respond. Also whenever I talk about my bf(his friend) that passed his tone changes. Im not confused about how I feel about him but, I know he is confused, I'm not even sure he likes me more than a friend. He just got out of a very serious long-term relationship and told me he is not ready for anything serious, however, this was during the "date" that I thought was just us hanging out and before I stayed over and he initiated the physical contact. There are times when he calls me pet names like sweety....or whatever then there are times when he calls I call back and he doesn't respond. I have no idea how to read this man and it is frustrating the h*ll out of me because I like him and I never thought I could like another man after losing the love of my life.....any advice from more knowledgable and less oblivious Libra's (lol or in other words the complete opposite of me) would be much appreciated because I am so confused! Thanks!

Well yes of course I am still in love with him. I am also helping his family with a lot of things (his friend knows this and never asks how things are going) But that doesn't mean I can't have feelings for him too.

It's so weird because in a way I have this weird feeling or nagging thought that my bf brought us both together or wants us to be together....lol i know i sound nutz.

I have good days and bad days....more good than bad. Mainly I have not slowed down enough to let myself feel a lot of pain.........I have turned to shopping a lot and concentrating on school and my internship

Prior to all of this we used to joke about how horrible the single people are out there, however, we no longer do this. In fact he never asks anymore! He used to "come on strong" in the Libra manner, meaning he used to give me signs that he liked me and now not really, we just exchange text messages with sexual undertones and double meanings...don't know if this is good or not....lol I would have never guessed that a Libra man would be this much of an enigma!

Enigma is a good word to describe them!!!

I'd be the LAST person to be able to help coz I've been through the rollercoaster ride with My libran mate for almost 11 months but just chill out a bit, maybe not text him everyday and/or other day....let him hang for a week or so...maybe you are too easily accessible and there isn't a chase which they love doing!! Let him miss you coz if you're not around so much, he'll come a looking!!

Good luck with that too coz they are like catnip!! LOL

lol I'm a libra so that is soo hard to do. Plus we are going to see each other this weekend a lot and be close to one and other so I'm not sure how to play that. I don't know if I should put on my im so beautiful/cute and every man wants me hat, or the snotty one....not sure.....the decisions they are like kryptonite!

lol I'm a libra so that is soo hard to do. Plus we are going to see each other this weekend a lot and be close to one and other so I'm not sure how to play that. I don't know if I should put on my im so beautiful/cute and every man wants me hat, or the snotty one....not sure.....the decisions they are like kryptonite!

so what's the problem— you're gonna see him - nice!

its for an event...its not a date. plus he insulted me with the "sleeping arrangements" and I kind of got sarcastic about it...which got no response! Lol it's a mess

Krazy Libra, are the two of you both Libra?

Maybe I'm not looking well enough but I cannot see it anywhere...

Ah, I think I saw that he is. He's probably mirroring you. Not trying to cross the line too early. We need Nico for this one.

Nico, oh where art thou?

By the way, what are you cuspy with?

I also think that with his happiness of a possible relationship with you he sort of forgets the sadness for his friend. When Libra is sad it is kept in a separate little box and comes out when we want to remember and mourn - or when someone reminds us -, but overall we don't carry it with us wherever we go. So when he's reminded it hits him quite hard because he had 'forgotten' for a while. It draws out feelings and he probably cannot do much else but retreat, feel and remember until the emotion passes and subsequently close that box again.

I am on the cusp of virgo. Libra that sounds right. I "forget" for awhile....but when I remember it hits me quite hard! Yes he is a Libra as well that is the funny part I am one and have no idea which way he is coming from. Like I said I am not even sure he likes me in that way or because I was his friend's girlfriend...know what I mean. He told me that I was the first girl to sleep in his new bed/home but i'm not sure how true that one is! I was planning to tell him how I felt this weekend simply because I think he needs to know and I'm sick of this cat and mouse game. When I like someone (which for me is rare I usually decide I can't stand them after a week or two) I like them and they're supposed to like me LOL it's supposed to be simple not a back and forth thing, but Im not sure if I should or what to say.....

Although not cuspy, I've got a lot of Virgo so I know the feeling...

BUT, you've got to allow him to play the game he needs to play to feel good in the end (e.g. I've conquered my girl). You're on this board and you've got a head start. Maybe you should let him try and conquer you, you know how it goes. And just sit it out for a bit. Play along :-) Make him earn you because that's what he wants anyway. And for you to earn him. Bring out the drama...

I have no doubt in my mind that deep down inside he will not have a problem with the fact that you belonged to someone else and the circumstances. He can bring it up which I think is just a warped way of saying 'do YOU think we stand a chance?'. If he did not want to know he would not start that conversation because we don't want the hassle.

Look for hinting and actions. You know yourself, it has to come together like they do it in the movies. Ordinary is just not special enough...!!

***He just got out of a very serious long-term relationship and told me he is not ready for anything serious, however, this was during the "date" that I thought was just us hanging out and before I stayed over and he initiated the physical contact. There are times when he calls me pet names like sweety.***

KL, and that is what he means, so don't put your heart out for more.

You aren't ready to be in a relationship. He isn't ready to be in a relationship. Why force it to be something more than it is? Just be who you were before the date. You are just friends who are attracted to each other, but the timing is WAY bad, the friend situation is way bad, and even if you pushed it to be more, for those facts, it wouldn't work out.

Just go back to being friends and heal your heart.

He probably likes you a lot and might even consider being with you, but isn't ready, or don't feel right doing so, since he was friends with your ex.

You aren't ready to be in a relationship. He isn't ready to be in a relationship. Why force it to be something more than it is? Just be who you were before the date. You are just friends who are attracted to each other, but the timing is WAY bad, the friend situation is way bad, and even if you pushed it to be more, for those facts, it wouldn't work out.

Just go back to being friends and heal your heart.

Not so sure about that. I have been bitter for quite awhile after my bfs death and he is the 1st guy to soften that....and I mean who really ever heals after losing someone so suddenly at such a young age? I know that if I continue to just be here and basically exist without exploring how I feel I will become even more bitter............

He probably likes you a lot and might even consider being with you, but isn't ready, or don't feel right doing so, since he was friends with your ex.

Lol I have no idea how the man feels for all I know he could hate my guts or look at me like a little sister....lol that's why I'm here. I am one of those odd Libra's that doesn't mind hurting your feelings if you get on my nerves...he is not. In fact at times I can be quite confrontational.....he is not! I also am very blunt....not so sure about him......

I know I felt the same way....guilty. But then I thought about the way things ended with his relationship and just the way things fell into place altogether and I truly believe in my heart that it was my bf trying to bring us together...again odd I know, I can't explain or rationalize it it is just a feeling almost a knowing....

Your rising sign might be responsible for directness and bluntness, or that Virgo influence. Although I find that Virgo does not present those traits unsolicited, but always challenged.

Maybe you have fire for a rising sign?

Lol I have no idea! Usually I have to be provoked.......the libra man has provoked me a couple of times and I have made it a point to let him know in a oh so not nasty, not yelling and subtle way that he is not the only one that things i'm cute and not the only guy that calls.....that actually kinda backfired because it shut him up for awhile!

Do you want him to want you?

Yeah I do of course I do because I want him!

join the club...

He makes me nutz! I'm just going to flat out tell him tomorrow.......lol i'll probably be crying on here tomorrow night!

You said you have not really slowed down to heal the pain but you have kept yourself occupied with shopping and your internship and school.
forgive me if this is insulting, but maybe your feelings for him are also a distraction from the pain? if you havent felt the pain then you are still carrying it around and its surely subconsciously affecting your decisions. i think you should give yourself time to experience the pain rather than try to avoid it, which is scary, and then see if you feel better. maybe take a break from the libra or something, so you can focus on yourself. you wont have another successful relationship until you heal from your loss, and i think any young person can do it. i think therapy might help here too, not astrology.

I am in a grief group......trust me I have experienced enough of the pain for 200 people...there is no way to really avoid it. How long can you really be in pain. My boyfriend would not want me to be in pain that is what made me take the first steps toward putting my life back together.

I am not looking for an answer that will bring my bf back......Im not looking for a medium. I just know how I feel. I have been on dates and the guys have annoyed me. And as I said above I go to a grief group regularly. I have worked very very hard to get to this point and I am sorry kiki that you are one of the many people that feel I an wrong for even considering dating again...pardon me for trying to be amongst the living. However part of what we are told in grief counseling is to begin trying to live a somewhat normal life....which can open the door to feelings for another person.

I will never love anyone the same way I loved my bf..but that is not unique that is true with every relationship, you never love 2 people the same(living or dead). The way I feel about the libra guy is in no way a "replacement" for my loss. The feelings surrounding it are totally different.
All I ask is that, as God awful as this has been, you step into my shoes for a moment before you judge.... What would you do?

hm, I was by no means judging you, if thats how it came off. all I know of you is from this thread, and earlier you said you had not fully felt the pain, and so i assumed you hadn't fully dealt with the issue. I was not attacking you, just try to give you my point of view from reading this. I see you have dealt with your feelings and your loss, so maybe you are ready for a new relationship.

Virgo Cusp— Do you mind telling us your date and time of birth?? Probably that can give more clarity into your issue.

It is 9/27/81 at 8:06 pm.

hm, I was by no means judging you, if thats how it came off. all I know of you is from this thread, and earlier you said you had not fully felt the pain, and so i assumed you hadn't fully dealt with the issue. I was not attacking you, just try to give you my point of view from reading this. I see you have dealt with your feelings and your loss, so maybe you are ready for a new relationship.

I didnt mean to come off defensive its just that NO ONE understands how this feels and all I am trying to do is maneuver through it the best way I can...............

wow...i wonder where the virgo tendencies come from then

Moon: Libra
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Scorpio
Mars: Leo
Ascendant: Taurus

Dunno which planet makes the trouble. Probably some past patterns... But you are definitely libra and in that case, I will suggest you stay calm till Oct. Its not the right time for anything major.

***Libra-Scorpio cusp is 10/19-10/25***

Wysdom are you sure about the cusp being within this spand time? My b-day is 10/24 and I am almost sure I am all scorp, with maybe a splash of Libra similarity. I thought 10/23 was the cusp. My brother (who is a libra) birthday is 10/22.

Where did you get the cusp dates from?

BTW what is the Libra I II III?

As per few astrologers, cusp doesnt play any role. the transition from one zodiac to next takes only 3 or 4 seconds. So a person will always be in either one of the sun signs and not in btween. But I have noticed that the ones on the last day of a zodiac seems quite more complicated than rest of the group. Esp the ones on 21st May, 22nd Sep and 20th Jan which falls btween earth and air.

Dunno which planet makes the trouble. Probably some past patterns... But you are definitely libra and in that case, I will suggest you stay calm till Oct. Its not the right time for anything major.

lol too late...everyday is major for me.. BTW the libra guy and i had a rough weekend. He got frustrated which made me frustrated so i got nasty. He apologized 3 times but i ended up not saying anything to him about how i felt because i had to handle some business about my bf which made me really upset...I still am. So i decided not to say anything because i am confused. He of course didnt say anything or ask if i was upset....which i don't understand because that was his best friend.

Its venus retrograde till Sep 20 or so and then slowly coming back to normal by Oct 10. Love and relationship department has a major crisis. Kind of temporary brain damage.

yeah i can feel it......he pissed me off something horrible and he knew it. He kept apologizing but it was too late i was already pissed off so it took some hours for me to calm dwn. I still haven't contacted him.....i'm like for what? Im tired of being ms. initiator........he's older than me besides im worth someone tripping over their feet for me!

Older doesn't mean wiser or more active right. Libra is shy no matter what. We can also be quite hyperactive depending on time and mood swings. May be you should stop thinking you are worth falling for. That might be one reason why he is unable to get close to you and faces some mental blocks. Once he is comfortable with you, this is not the way he will be behaving.

Older doesn't mean wiser or more active right. Libra is shy no matter what. We can also be quite hyperactive depending on time and mood swings. May be you should stop thinking you are worth falling for. That might be one reason why he is unable to get close to you and faces some mental blocks. Once he is comfortable with you, this is not the way he will be behaving.

No offense but im not going to start thinking im trash. I dont fall for anyone unless they are worth falling for like me. We have been friends for awhile so i don't project that on him...we laugh and joke, i pick at him, etc. so it is nothing "datey" or relationshipy. it is his own whatever that is causing that. on saturday i was kind of sad so i asked him if he would come and sleep with me...in the literal sense...just sleep and instead he tells me to come to where he is because they (he and his roommate) were up watching TV. im like thanks.....just great. i get there and he gets in the bed and goes to sleep.....i just left after that.

I can't help anyone with mental blocks that is something they have to work on...i would think

Didnt mean you are trash. We wouldn't hv shown any interest in you if you were. 😛 So something different might have happened after the initial stage. May be you demanded more of his time and attention than what he could possible give at that point of time. Anyway nothing is stable till oct beginning. So best is to stay calm and avoid messing it up further. And you can take it from oct and see how positive it can get. Now whatever you try might bring negative results. So best is to stay under pillow.

** He not we.

typo.

no not saying u meant that.......nah ive actually never asked him out or anything. so no time demand. I need my space as much as he does. besides im a traditionalist. the man asks in the beginning! im not sure what or if the next move will be so u are right!

***As per few astrologers, cusp doesnt play any role. the transition from one zodiac to next takes only 3 or 4 seconds***

Interesting point thelibran, so what if someones b-day is Oct 23rd, does it depend on what time they were born? What sign would that person be?

Wysdom, great stuff. Interesting, very interesting. I would have to pay more attention to my brother to see if he has these weaknesses and stregnths. LOL!!!

***He apologized 3 times but i ended up not saying anything to him about how i felt because i had to handle some business about my bf which made me really upset...I still am. So i decided not to say anything because i am confused. He of course didnt say anything or ask if i was upset....which i don't understand because that was his best friend.***

Yes KL you are definitely a Libra. LOL!!!

***Libra is shy no matter what***

thelibran, I keep hearing this comment from librans, but I swear to God I never see it. Shy, when. They are quite bold around me. Male and the female or two I have known.

thelibran, why do you think that is. I swear they say they are shy all the time and I take it as a joke... I really never see shyness.

***i was kind of sad so i asked him if he would come and sleep with me...in the literal sense...just sleep and instead he tells me to come to where he is because they (he and his roommate) were up watching TV. im like thanks.....just great. i get there and he gets in the bed and goes to sleep.....i just left after that.***

If you only wanted him to sleep with you, then why did you leave? I don't get it.

Actually I have had only sleepovers before... That was it a sleepover, especially when I was sad and really just wanted someone there. It has been a really long time since I have had one of those though.