The Hip - Hop is Dead Thread.

This topic was created in the Libra forum by TheBeautifulStruggle on Wednesday, October 5, 2011 and has 27 replies.

Is mainstream hip hop losing substance

Many believe mainstream hip hop lacks substance and authenticity, leading to a decline in its cultural value. Some artists like Jay Rock and J. Cole are seen as keeping the genre meaningful, while others feel it has become more commercialized. The debate continues about whether hip hop can retain its depth amid evolving industry trends.

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Because there is no substance in mainstream hip hop.

Anyway, I know what you're trying to do, you're asking who I listen to, not because you are genuinely interested in what I listen to, but because you are trying to "guage" who I am by the choices I make...like the whole eclectic thing.

But if you're really interested, I listen to everything..lately..it's been..

Jay Rock, Lil Wayne, J. Cole, Lupe Fiasco, and Big Boi.

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I also Like T.I. , Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Nappy Roots and 50 cent's First albumn.

I only like one track from Jay Electronica, and like one joint from Nikki Minaj.

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Rah Digga is my shit....Twista is cool, and Busta Rhymes is cool.

Kanye is alright imo..I enjoy him in spurts...Common is off and on with me as well..LOVE the Fugees..Lauryn Hill is my shit.

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point...There are too many quality main-stream artists to make any type of argument that hip hop is dead/lack substance, if you're judging the music industry by what's playing exclusively on the radio..than that's just a minuscule comparison from a entire of genre of great music that has graced the radio consistently to get national acclaim.

Personally, I argue that everything has its place, some music is good to chill out too, some is good for the club, some is good if you're at a blcok party, some if you want to fuck some shit up or blow off some steam.

I hadn't even gotten into what artists I liked int he late 80's early 90's...or even what non-mainstream artists i like listening to..or just started listening to.

But you know, if you want to be angsty about the music industry..that's cool..i understand it, but as a whole? nah..

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Posted by oldskoolflavor

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
Because there is no substance in mainstream hip hop.

Anyway, I know what you're trying to do, you're asking who I listen to, not because you are genuinely interested in what I listen to, but because you are trying to "guage" who I am by the choices I make...like the whole eclectic thing.

But if you're really interested, I listen to everything..lately..it's been..

Jay Rock, Lil Wayne, J. Cole, Lupe Fiasco, and Big Boi.

lol

and I must assume you're trying to gauge who I am,
by the answers I will give ?

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not really, i just made my point.

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If you can pm me a way to post youtube videos and not have it mess up..i keep trying to doit..i'll post some of my fave songs of artists i think you'd like.

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i mean you have some artists that have a great message but can be boring (common) and you can have some rappers that may not be talkig about a whole lot..but they have great charisma (T.I.) I mean there are other things to appreciate a rapper than just how they put together a song, whtehter they have a solid message or they're just boasting...how talented they are at spitting...etc.

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Posted by blueribbons
OBVIOUSLY you havent listened to Jay-z Kanya album.

ok, HIP HOP is not just some niggas rapping. HIP HOP is about culture and has substantial reality to it.

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Posted by oldskoolflavor

Posted by blueribbons
OBVIOUSLY you havent listened to Jay-z Kanya album.

Kanye has skills
Jay-Z is a bitch

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Jay-Z is better than Kanye? Come Again? Now you REEEELLY showing your age.

Jay-Z is the shit. stand by for choice Jay-Z.

Oh and I hid my posts because I wanted to upload the songs properly...just stand by..

And bluewhateveryourname is..the title was a spin-off of another thread and it's meant to be 'tongue in cheek'.

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Idk how you're saying hip-hop is dead, everyone wants to say they're hip hop tryna be a star. It's alive as ever. Maybe you mean gangster rap is dead? Ya I'm a little sad WEST COAST gangster rap is basically dead but the south and east isn't - just a different style .

West Coast hip hop dead? Wrong again!!! Stand by!

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whoops i meant to say "kanye better than Jay-Z" see...I may have meant that to be a typo..but it's really because I could never have those two switched...lol.

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Posted by blueribbons

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle

Posted by oldskoolflavor

Posted by blueribbons
OBVIOUSLY you havent listened to Jay-z Kanya album.

Kanye has skills
Jay-Z is a bitch

And bluewhateveryourname is..the title was a spin-off of another thread and it's meant to be 'tongue in cheek'.

thanks whatsyourface, I read the other thread... its like... you know... public too. also commented it. 😛

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thatw asn't meant to be an insult..i didn't feel like back tracking to find your name, blueribbons, but also your comment gave the impression that "I" was the one that thought hip hop was dead..and i was trying to clarify.

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Hip hop is dead? I disagree. These two are both from 2011. If you want that real shit listen to the JETS and taylor gang (besides wiz [unless it's everything before kush and oj.])

NEAKO taylor gang

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There's still good stuff in current hip-hop

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Why address an ignorant comment like that?

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My bad, let's try this again...

😄 thank you....oldskool...for posting the vid.

I do find your language in describing some songs as dark....interesting.

See, to me, the first song I had posted, I wouldn't describe it that song as 'dark'..i'd describe it as 'real'...as in, this is something that's out there, or it's prevalent or the truth.

Dark ? I want to know your thought process behind that.

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