We broke up :(

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Or rather, I told him to take his space and not contact me till he is ready. Basically he has been acting weird, all attentive and affectionate on Whatsapp while he is at work. Then if we whatsapp at night or weekends he will not respond to anything I say for hours, or not at all. I started to find it suspicious, that maybe he is fooling around. Last night on Skype chat I asked him what the issue is and why he has been acting this way. He says he is tired, hates his job and it is getting tougher, and says that I pressure him too much to respond to me, that he doesn't even respond to his family that much. Then he says it's hard for him because we are in a long distance and can't see each other till July, and he doesn't have the energy to fight at work and fight for me too. So first he tells me that he needs space to think about the future (ie me and our relationship). Then when he sees that I am upset he says he needs space to deal with work.
He has been applying for jobs he here, so then he said he is not apply anymore because I need to follow through with my promise to see him in July. So I got upset again because last week he asked me to send him contact info for a place he wants to apply to, then when I sent it to him he just kept quiet. Waited for me to explode before telling me he is not bothering anymore. Twice now I've had to cancel seeing him because of school commitments (I have a scholarship, so it literally pays my bills). So I understand he is hurting and feeling let down from this.

So I ask him what he means by space, he says we can stay together and keep in contact but I don't want you to have expectations of me. And then I said it's unfair because he expects me to be emotionally present when he needs, but when I need him I shouldn't be able to count on him.

This is radically different from the man I know that used to love talking to me. Now he basically said he talks to me during the day because I am his only friend and best friend and his only escape from his miserable life. But on weekends he just wants to be left alone since it is his only time for himself and he can do what he wants.
I asked him if he was happy with me, he said yes, then I asked him if he is happy with the relationship, he hesitated.

I told him that I can't just sitting around waiting while he figures out if I am worth it or not. That I need someone stable and constant and who is determined to find a way to make things work. He told me I am dreaming to mu
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He told me I am dreaming to much and should be more realistic that the distance may cause us to break up.

Somehow, I felt that he already wanted to break up, but didn't know how without losing me permanently. He keeps saying if we ever break up we will remain friends and he will never become indifferent towards me. Seems to me like he is just looking for a painless out, while he gets to keep the benefits of my attention and jokes, affection, love etc. without having to commit himself to me and give me the same. So I told him I deserve more than that and I don't want to be used for entertainment. So not to contact me again until he has made up his mind about what the f*ck he wants from me.

So I'd like people's thoughts on this - should I just have given him space without freaking out? Have I overreacted? My heart is really broken because I love him deeply, but somehow I feel he has given up on us and at any moment he will pull the rug out from under me. Am I just running away because I am too insecure?

Would he have come back to me if I had just laid off of him for a bit? Or am I right that he does want a total breakup without losing the benefits of me?

It's really hard to love someone and realise that maybe they have fallen out of love with you and gave up on you while you have still been fighting for the relationship. The sad thing is I gave him the option to end it a few weeks ago because of the only seeing each other in July. And he promised me everything was fine, and he would be patient, etc. So why turn around and use it as an excuse to decrease his commitment to me?

Btw he is a libra sun, virgo moon, Sagittarius venus, and Capricorn Mars.
Should I expect to hear from him again, or should I just forget about him?
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I have just gone through this same situation as my now ex broke up with me right before new years. He's a cancer sun I'm a libra sun. We did long distance and this time its was going to be 6motnhs apart the longest we have done as he works on ships. So he broke up with me i was totally devastated by this and couldn't work out why would you give up this 2 year relationship when we have waited for each other with time apart all the time. But do you no what i still love this boy but you can't make someone love you so i have just left it and told him that i understand and just try and get on with my own like like everyone kept telling me. I went two clervoyants and they both told me he is going to come back and we are going to marry. who the hell knows but i can't make him love me right now he has to figure out it him self weather he does love me or maybe he meets someone else. So its been two months and I'm feeling good we talked awe bit in the first few weeks of the break up and now he is out of communication which helps a lot.

But at the end of the day you can't make someone love you just love your self and what you are doing with your life things will fall into place weather its with a new guy or your ex just live like its way to short!! I feel for you right now as that was me 2 months ago!! time is your friend!!!! xxx
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But at the end of the day you can't make someone love you just love your self and what you are doing with your life things will fall into place weather its with a new guy or your ex just live like its way to short!! I feel for you right now as that was me 2 months ago!! time is your friend!!!! xxx



Thanks jaxz! I know with time it will get better. Allowed myself one cry last night, now I'm moving on with my life, and I'm sure I'll find someone sweet one day. I personally prefer to not return to old relationships, so if he ever wants me back, at this point the hurt is too great, he'd have to do something really drastic for me to change my mind now. But I don't have any hopes, I accept to never see him again.
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I have just gone through this same situation as my now ex broke up with me right before new years. He's a cancer sun I'm a libra sun. We did long distance and this time its was going to be 6motnhs apart the longest we have done as he works on ships. So he broke up with me i was totally devastated by this and couldn't work out why would you give up this 2 year relationship when we have waited for each other with time apart all the time. But do you no what i still love this boy but you can't make someone love you so i have just left it and told him that i understand and just try and get on with my own like like everyone kept telling me. I went two clervoyants and they both told me he is going to come back and we are going to marry. who the hell knows but i can't make him love me right now he has to figure out it him self weather he does love me or maybe he meets someone else. So its been two months and I'm feeling good we talked awe bit in the first few weeks of the break up and now he is out of communication which helps a lot.

Good for you jaxz! Continue being strong! But seems like a part of your heart hasn't yet shut and bolted the door to him, no? You are still wanting him to come back?
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Sounds like you've had enough time to get some peace about it deja. As I always say, life is full of surprises, nothing stays the same, and always when you least expect it life likes to say 'surprise!!'. So you're right - anything is possible at this point.
But I've closed my heart to a reunion, if I keep hoping then I won't be able to let go and move on. So I don't have any optimism that we will be reunited later on in life.
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Sole2, I'm sorry, hun, you know exactly what you need and he's not this type of guy. He's pulling away. Maybe this is not the right time for your relationship to blossom or maybe it's just not meant to be. Just focus on yourself and your studies. There's not much you can do about this. The ball is in his court now. You gave him the time he needs to sort it out. I hope he decides soon instead of leaving you hanging like this.



Thanks Aesma! I'm pretty done now. I can't continue like this until July. I want a peaceful relationship, not turmoil every few weeks. He wants the same, but only on his terms. This is just bad timing for both of us, my school schedule is restricting me, and he is severely depressed with his work life. He knows I'm a good girlfriend and caring - that's why he won't let me go totally. But he also needs tons of space to figure out his own life. He has not considered my needs at all. It's neither of our faults. When I'm depressed I can get pretty deep in it and not be very objective or think clearly, so I know how he is mentally. Maybe I'm selfish person, but I kind of don't want to wait and see what he really wants after his fog clears. So now that I had a day to cool off and think clearer, I realise too much has happened, and I prefer to move on with my life. Not prepared to sit around for a man to decide I am worthy, that's just one of the most insulting things ever for me. If he was sure he still wanted me, but needed space to focus on work, I'd have been accommodating. But he can't keep me in a box like a toy and only take me out when he needs, not when I need. He wants all the love without giving in return. Ok I'm getting angrier just writing this, lol.
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Posted by dejahthoris
I'd hardly call it peace, more of a survival instinct. The Ram backbone caters for me through it. I've chosen the high road by not cutting communication though, so I do break down at times. Like any human being.



Not cutting contact?? o-0
You are stronger than me. I don't know if I can keep talking to him while I'm trying to stop loving him. It will just keep reminding me of how good it used to be. I am not contacting him anymore. If he does get in touch (it's been one day) then I will take it from there. If he wants to continue talking all the time then I will need to ask him not too. Every few weeks is tolerable.

You have balls, hahaha.
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I know he wanted to break up, he just didn't want to lose the benefits of having me in his life.
I told him, he doesn't get to break my heart and make me feel I am not worth someone's love and commitment, then we continue being best friends like nothing happened. To me that's BS.
Just like he doesn't want expectations from me, he doesn't get to impose his on me either.
And he's just being selfish.
I'll need time to get over it, then we can see about a friendship. But right now I'm too mad at him.
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Sounds like you're going through what I'm going through. It's been a month for me and at times it feels like we just broke up yesterday. You got to be strong somehow because mine also wants to play the friend card but hoping it will lead us back together but he leaves out he part where he can move on and have me in his back pocket the whole time. I've been ignoring him and I haven't heard from him in days so maybe it has stop. I miss him until I remember how he made me feel and how selfish he is. Then I get ok. I to was a good gf and believe that's why he was trying to hang on. Even said he wanted me back until I told him to prove it and he got mad and started to ignore me. Selfish selfish selfish. Don't fall for it.

You'll be fine. You just need to keep yourself busy. I'm having a harder time because I'm going through something and miss having a bf but all in all I know I need and deserve better. Good luck!
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
What is it with these dudes and their cakey eaty shit when they've ruined their relationships, thus causing them to end? :/




When u find out let me know lol. U try to be as good to them as u can and the bitches still aren't happy. Then u try to move on and then the bitches still aren't happy. I get ignored then tell him off and then text u like u didn't just call him a piece of shit the day b4. Smdh. I swear libra is by far the most confusing sign to me. Maybe Gemini too but I never met someone who's flaky and narcissistic but get mad when u say something but get mad and play victim cause u want to be treated better. I think maybe they're only good for sex and maybe hanging out not for a meaningful relationship with some depth. For get about it
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Well I'm reading her stuff and what that dude expected of her, then thinking of yours, and then several other instances that have come across the board and it's kind of a startling trend.

They're ending things, but they want some sort of stipulation that helps make them feel better or benefits them. But they don't want you as a partner.

Dafuq?

One of my experiences was he broke it off, but suggested staying fwb. At the time, I was like yeah, okay because I wouldn't mind keeping the awesome sex. However, neither of us acted upon it. He turned into a weirdo toward me overall, and whatever. Fricken TWO years later he takes me up on that "offer" and it's like yeah no? He still thought it stood that we would pursue fwb. Then he acted like even more of a jack ass because I turned him down.

CAKEY EATY.

To this day it still baffles me that he thought he could bring it up and everything was fine and dandy.

I think we just have a lot of jerks that think (and know) they can get away with this shit because they have in the past. Guys just tend to push as much as they can to see what they can get.

It's just sad that they're so self absorbed that they think they can lay down all these little options, all for their benefit, and are shocked when women say no (and happy as fuck when dumb women cave and say yes).

And overall, this isn't just a Libra thing, it's a GUY thing.
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@ rocky true it is a male thing. the thing that baffles me is having that post break up/got over you convo and hearing how much they loved you and how you were the one, but was too immature to realize what they had blah blah blah.

for some reason every libra man i know this applies to them, not to hate on any one sign. i just never seen one sign of men so confused and unsure and insecure of themselves. never knows what they want but want you and every one else but you're crazy when you mention a change in them.

my ex told me we're going to be friends so i will like him and be friends with him again and then we will get back together, another time he said he wasn't taking me out as much because he was about to buy me a wedding ring. LMAO!!!!!!! in the end he was reaching for any excuse to keep me around but played the victim allllllllllll the time. UGH!!!!!!

i think so many females are on this site trying to figure out how to get them back because they will confuse the hell out of you because they show you love but then stop. end up making you feel like you're the crazy ass person. i never want this feeling again.
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Hell it don't matter what age

My BF has a libra BBF and this dude is like 43, and he is cheating on his wife, has a daughter by another female, while he is still married to his Gemini wife and has a side chick,mBut was trying hard to keep the side chick more than divorcing his wife, so um yea age don't matter




sure don't lol all are in their 30s. I will say this last one was the most "mature" one (and i mean that loosely) that I've dealt with. but i also stayed in his ass too. seems you can't be too nice to them. The more i act an ass the more they want to come back.. don't get it. *shrugs*
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Heck I have seen this behavior from a cancer man my g/f leeb is struggling with. This guy doesn't want to let her go but in the same time he is not ready to be serious. And he is smooth too, he is acting like a victim in the whole situation..things he is telling her: 'oh poor me, I am so confused and messed up, I want you but I can't promise you anything serious' its like w.t.f? some people are soo weird
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Hell it don't matter what age

My BF has a libra BBF and this dude is like 43, and he is cheating on his wife, has a daughter by another female, while he is still married to his Gemini wife and has a side chick,mBut was trying hard to keep the side chick more than divorcing his wife, so um yea age don't matter




sure don't lol all are in their 30s. I will say this last one was the most "mature" one (and i mean that loosely) that I've dealt with. but i also stayed in his ass too. seems you can't be too nice to them. The more i act an ass the more they want to come back.. don't get it. *shrugs*
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Lol, tell me bout it, I'm still with my Libra BF, I told him the day he skips on me, be prepared to have your meat missing, but we are always together tho, but still dem scales will fall
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Heck I have seen this behavior from a cancer man my g/f leeb is struggling with. This guy doesn't want to let her go but in the same time he is not ready to be serious. And he is smooth too, he is acting like a victim in the whole situation..things he is telling her: 'oh poor me, I am so confused and messed up, I want you but I can't promise you anything serious' its like w.t.f? some people are soo weird




Give the cancer a carrot

jK, JK
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Heck I have seen this behavior from a cancer man my g/f leeb is struggling with. This guy doesn't want to let her go but in the same time he is not ready to be serious. And he is smooth too, he is acting like a victim in the whole situation..things he is telling her: 'oh poor me, I am so confused and messed up, I want you but I can't promise you anything serious' its like w.t.f? some people are soo weird




LOL. That's rich. Smh.
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oh SL, the things this guy says smh... he is so good that she almost started comforting him lol
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Aww! I'd be furious too if I were in your shoes. 😢 I hate inconsistencies. I guess it's just really not the best time for both of you. NO! NO! Scratch that. In truth, if you both want to make it work, you'll always find a way. He was being lazy! He just didn't want to do his part.

You do deserve more than what he's willing to give.



I agree 100% Aesma! He wants the benefits of a relationship, without the responsibility that comes with it. And he wants to get it from any person who will give it to me. What he loves about me has diminished into what he needs and how he can get it, without giving in return. And if I can't give it to him he will go get it elsewhere, hence the 'thinking about the future' BS.
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You'll be fine. You just need to keep yourself busy. I'm having a harder time because I'm going through something and miss having a bf but all in all I know I need and deserve better. Good luck!



Miz I know how you feel! So far the worst thing for me is being excited about something and wanting to tell him, but then knowing I can't. I miss sharing stuff with him. And I'm sure you are having it even worse since you are going through something. Good luck hun, and you're right to remind yourself of what he put you through. It will help you remember your dignity and self-respect comes first, and if you can't have him, at least he will respect you, even if he never admits it.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
What is it with these dudes and their cakey eaty shit when they've ruined their relationships, thus causing them to end? :/




When u find out let me know lol. U try to be as good to them as u can and the bitches still aren't happy. Then u try to move on and then the bitches still aren't happy. I get ignored then tell him off and then text u like u didn't just call him a piece of shit the day b4. Smdh. I swear libra is by far the most confusing sign to me. Maybe Gemini too but I never met someone who's flaky and narcissistic but get mad when u say something but get mad and play victim cause u want to be treated better. I think maybe they're only good for sex and maybe hanging out not for a meaningful relationship with some depth. For get about it
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Ugghh I've felt so exhausted analysing these types of guys. At the end of the day I think they are just selfish, and even when it is good, it is just a selfish act for them. Because why only become selfish while it is bad? They are always selfish, it's just in the beginning we don't see it because the selfishness manifests in things we enjoy. Like having time for us is not seen as selfish, but it is because it is fulfilling their need. If it was out of love they would make the time even when times are bad.
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@ rocky true it is a male thing. the thing that baffles me is having that post break up/got over you convo and hearing how much they loved you and how you were the one, but was too immature to realize what they had blah blah blah.

for some reason every libra man i know this applies to them, not to hate on any one sign. i just never seen one sign of men so confused and unsure and insecure of themselves. never knows what they want but want you and every one else but you're crazy when you mention a change in them.

my ex told me we're going to be friends so i will like him and be friends with him again and then we will get back together, another time he said he wasn't taking me out as much because he was about to buy me a wedding ring. LMAO!!!!!!! in the end he was reaching for any excuse to keep me around but played the victim allllllllllll the time. UGH!!!!!!

i think so many females are on this site trying to figure out how to get them back because they will confuse the hell out of you because they show you love but then stop. end up making you feel like you're the crazy ass person. i never want this feeling again.



+1 It is really them who are suffering because it must suck to live with that insecurity and unsureness. Now as much as I am hurting I am sure he is not the man for me and I can move on, because I know what I need and want. For them, they will be wondering if they didn't make a mistake (but it is too bad they are not able to actually make amends through actions). I think actually maybe this is not even an astrology thing, no? It must also be people who have limited emotional intelligence and drive in their lives?
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Posted by Aesma
Yup, those are scenarios where you'd really go "WTF"!

But how old are the guys we're talking about anyway? I'd say this'd be normal to expect from guys around teens to even early 30s. I have some male friends that won't settle down until they're 40 or 50.

So in a way, it could be true that they do find you women to be the marriageable type but I guess it's just not the right time for them to settle down so they want to keep you as an option in the future. *shrugs*

OR maybe they're just fucked up in the head and truly don't know what they want

OR they just want all the good parts of the relationship without having any responsibility towards you, your feelings and needs. SELFISH as fuck but that's what my Libra ex told me. He just didn't want me to end up with any other guy but he didn't want a relationship either. That was totally messed up. Oh well! We were in our teens to early 20s then. Obviously he was more into hooking up with girls than a serious relationship around that time.



+1 Aesma! Spot on. Actually I think it is a combination of all three, and one shows up stronger in one person than another, but I think these guys have some form of all three.
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Posted by tiziani
Nice decision by sole though. Don't stick around for unnecessary grief.





Words to live by.



Thanks Tiziani!! Here are some quotes that I really like too;

Many people want love to function like a drug, giving them an immediate and sustained high. They want to do nothing, just passively receive the good feeling.??
?? Bell Hooks

And this is me exactly;



—It still took years for me to let go of learned patterns of behaviour that negated my capacity to give and receive love. One pattern that made the practice of love especially difficult was my constantly choosing to be with men who were emotionally wounded, who were not that interested in loving, even though they desired to be loved. I wanted to know love but was afraid to be intimate. By choosing men who were not interested in being loving, I was able to practice giving love but always within an unfulfilling context. Naturally, my need to receive love was not met. I got what I was accustomed to getting. Care and affection, usually mingled with a degree of unkindness, neglect, and on some occasions, out right cruelty.??
?? Bell Hooks, All About Love: New Visions

I guess I haven't lost the pattern yet.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
What is it with these dudes and their cakey eaty shit when they've ruined their relationships, thus causing them to end? :/




When u find out let me know lol. U try to be as good to them as u can and the bitches still aren't happy. Then u try to move on and then the bitches still aren't happy. I get ignored then tell him off and then text u like u didn't just call him a piece of shit the day b4. Smdh. I swear libra is by far the most confusing sign to me. Maybe Gemini too but I never met someone who's flaky and narcissistic but get mad when u say something but get mad and play victim cause u want to be treated better. I think maybe they're only good for sex and maybe hanging out not for a meaningful relationship with some depth. For get about it



Ugghh I've felt so exhausted analysing these types of guys. At the end of the day I think they are just selfish, and even when it is good, it is just a selfish act for them. Because why only become selfish while it is bad? They are always selfish, it's just in the beginning we don't see it because the selfishness manifests in things we enjoy. Like having time for us is not seen as selfish, but it is because it is fulfilling their need. If it was out of love they would make the time even when times are bad.
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Their sign contradicts everything they are suppose to stand for. Fairness and committment. These ppl love relationships but selfish as hell and will jump from one situation to another. I know some who have been in very long relationships I just want to know how their partner deals with it. Between the lies, selfishness, and narcissistic behavor i dont know how ppl put up with them for so long, but they will maniplate the hell outta you tho lol