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Boston bombings (some food for thought)
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over analyzing...it's a vicious cycle.
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
I just ran into this on Facebook, still not sure what to make of it but it certainly looks more than your typical conspiracy theory, check it out, what do you think?
WHOA!
Give fair warning, please-- that link is GRAPHIC.
But, yes-- there has been a lot of speculation regarding the suspect(s), and the government & media's role in their identification.
I THINK IT WAS NORTH KOREA A VERY SMALL MISSELL JUST TO SHOW WHAT THEY COULD DO.
Posted by seraph
Must be a big sale on tinfoil somewhere.right, because there are no political agendas .
Big difference between "political agendas" and "conspiracy theory."
Noam Chomsky, for instance, talks about "political agendas." Alex Jones, for instance, talks about "conspiracy theory." One is a linguist and political scholar with a fleshed-out body of work. The other is a Conservative whackjob.
One is a body of knowledge based on fact, historiographical methods of inquiry, and geopolitical realities. The other is based on bullshit you find on imgur that tickles your inner-Illuminati-secret-agent-vampire because the alternative (also called "reality") is way too boring.
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I hope you don't think that Noam Chomsky's credentials, or even his heritage, exempt him from being classified (correctly) as an agenda-driven propagandist; you would be mistaken.
They merely grant him impunity from much of the media's scrutiny (though fortunately, not all).
Alex Jones simply provides the layman's version of the same nonsense.
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seraph, unless you are willing to discuss constructively instead of your typical and predictable condescending mockery which you try disguising so well with your fake smileys, gifs and links, I'd kindly suggest you to GTFO of my thread, thank you 🙂
Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
seraph, unless you are willing to discuss constructivelyExcept you can't base any "constructive" discussion on internet photos.
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Why? Cause you say so?
I'll suggest you to go back and read your comments on this thread so far and tell me again if you haven't been acting like a condescending piece of shit, hmkay?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/23/boston-bomber-foreign-motive-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-terrorist-groups/2105705/
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I believe it. I believe all of it. 🙂
And some folks think the capture of this creep was overkill? Why shouldn't law enforcement use everything in their power
to end this quickly, and capture the bad guy?
They got him, that's all I care about.
Is this the dead suspsect or the 2nd? It says the second suspect, but this guy looks pretty dead to me. (?)
Did Lee Harvey Oswald kill kennedy?
I'm not surprised. The way they handled the situation with the suspects reminded me a lot of what happened with Christopher Dorner here. A lot of hearsay with very little shown to back it up.
The whole time I watched it unfold, something just seemed off. A lot of people here did, actually.
Then I saw how they handled the suspects with the Boston bombing - very similar.
I know a lot can't be caught immediately on camera, but the fact that so much was left out and everything was just being told to us seemed kinda weird.
But then again, the media is always misreporting things without verifying facts, so before long, you have a lot of confusion on what's really going on. I think it's what sparks a lot of conspiracies. Not to say that they aren't founded sometimes, but knowing how ready the media is to jump the gun with any sort of information, just to one up every other news source, just leaves everything a cluster fuck when it comes to the facts.
I just find it interesting that the young bomber has no ability to talk with a gun shot wound in his throat.
Also I did not know what CISPA meant (the comment at the sight that said, while boston and texas was distracting this was being passed).. I looked it up, and yep another amendment (4th)they want to screw with...
Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act
At the heart of CISPA is a Fourth Amendment issue.
The amendment reads:
—The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.??
CISPA is designed to let the federal government work with private companies to fight hackers and cybercriminals in and outside of the United States. As part of the effort to detect cyber threats, private companies could voluntarily share with the government data about Internet users.
The sharing could be done in —real time?? as the cybercops try to defeat and track down the evildoers. Companies could also share data among themselves as part of the effort.
There are major drawbacks about the legislation, say CISPA??s critics. The privacy provisions for consumers, they claim, are vague or nonexistent. The government and companies can't look at your personal data, such as medical records and tax returns, if they are part of the —data dump?? that is shared in real time. But the law doesn't require that companies excise, or edit out, that information in the transfer process.
Another criticism is that a warrant isn't needed for the government to obtain that information. And companies that share your information won't be held legally liable for sharing that information, a practice that seemingly conflicts with privacy policies on existing websites.
http://news.yahoo.com/cispa-fourth-amendment-143420272.html
Posted by LetltB
Is this the dead suspsect or the 2nd? It says the second suspect, but this guy looks pretty dead to me. (?)
Well OF COURSE that's the 2nd bomber.
He's answering questions right now.
Posted by LunarMaiden
I just find it interesting that the young bomber has no ability to talk with a gun shot wound in his throat.
What? He can't write either?
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I'm not surprised. The way they handled the situation with the suspects reminded me a lot of what happened with Christopher Dorner here. A lot of hearsay with very little shown to back it up.The whole time I watched it unfold, something just seemed off. A lot of people here did, actually.
Then I saw how they handled the suspects with the Boston bombing - very similar.
I know a lot can't be caught immediately on camera, but the fact that so much was left out and everything was just being told to us seemed kinda weird.
But then again, the media is always misreporting things without verifying facts, so before long, you have a lot of confusion on what's really going on. I think it's what sparks a lot of conspiracies. Not to say that they aren't founded sometimes, but knowing how ready the media is to jump the gun with any sort of information, just to one up every other news source, just leaves everything a cluster fuck when it comes to the facts.
Another idiot who can't believe that 1+1=2.
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I'm not surprised. The way they handled the situation with the suspects reminded me a lot of what happened with Christopher Dorner here. A lot of hearsay with very little shown to back it up.The whole time I watched it unfold, something just seemed off. A lot of people here did, actually.
Then I saw how they handled the suspects with the Boston bombing - very similar.
I know a lot can't be caught immediately on camera, but the fact that so much was left out and everything was just being told to us seemed kinda weird.
But then again, the media is always misreporting things without verifying facts, so before long, you have a lot of confusion on what's really going on. I think it's what sparks a lot of conspiracies. Not to say that they aren't founded sometimes, but knowing how ready the media is to jump the gun with any sort of information, just to one up every other news source, just leaves everything a cluster fuck when it comes to the facts.
Another idiot who can't believe that 1+1=2.
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Says one of the most paranoid dipshits on DXP.
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I'm not surprised. The way they handled the situation with the suspects reminded me a lot of what happened with Christopher Dorner here. A lot of hearsay with very little shown to back it up.The whole time I watched it unfold, something just seemed off. A lot of people here did, actually.
Then I saw how they handled the suspects with the Boston bombing - very similar.
I know a lot can't be caught immediately on camera, but the fact that so much was left out and everything was just being told to us seemed kinda weird.
But then again, the media is always misreporting things without verifying facts, so before long, you have a lot of confusion on what's really going on. I think it's what sparks a lot of conspiracies. Not to say that they aren't founded sometimes, but knowing how ready the media is to jump the gun with any sort of information, just to one up every other news source, just leaves everything a cluster fuck when it comes to the facts.
exactly I said this is Dorner all over again. When they said the suspect was inthe boat and that the boat had gasonline in the engine. I thought oh great theyre gonna blow the boat up and hes gonna disappear. Didnt happen, but weve still yet to see any evidence that these two did anything , and that the perp really even exists.
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I'm not a hardcore conspiracy theorist or anything, but just how things have been handled in both situations- just leaves the vibe of something being off. Just the the fact that all these- Dorner, Boston, and Sandyhook wrapped up so quickly in the media is kinda weird. But that's how the media is- on to the next fantastical thing for ratings.
meh..everything happens for a reason, and the truth always comes out in the end.
The very next morning after the boat incident, the mother of these boys said the feds were following the oldest one son for some time prior to all of this. If that's the case, the feds ate one two many donuts and one too many cups of coffee one could say. So...was he one picked as a suspect? We'll never know the full truth. The backpacks in the photos indeed do not match to the one that exploded. That's odd.
"Mrs Tsarnaeva, an observant Muslim wearing a black hijab gathered tightly under her chin, said Tamerlan, 26, her elder son - who was shot dead in a firefight with police in Watertown, Massachusetts on Friday - had first aroused suspicions in the United States in 2008, and FBI agents met with him on "at least five" occasions since, the last time a year and a half ago.
"They came and asked him, what are you doing, what are you up to?" she recalled. "They said Tamerlan was an influential lad, he had the personality of a leader and they asked me, 'Don't you have any thoughts that he could organise some kind of group of a terrorist persuasion?'" "They said they'd seen what kind of videos he'd been looking at. And they told me that they keep young leaders among Muslims under control so there aren't any bombings, so that they don't fall under someone's influence." Tamerlan Tsarnaev is thought to have maintained a YouTube account which featured videos sympathising with radical Muslims. His father said the FBI was interested in his visits to the Russian site www.islam.ru."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10011614/Boston-bombers-mother-Zubeidat-Tsarnaeva-says-sons-are-innocent.html
So...was he one picked as a suspect? We'll never know the full truth. The backpacks in the photos indeed do not match to the one that exploded, which is odd. At this point..it doesn't matter now does it?
Regarding Texas..
Follow the money, corporations etc...that fertilizer company is owned by Transcanada who was rejected by Obama in January to run a 7billion dollar pipeline. This company is KNOWN for severe safety and fuck up issues, West, Texas being the latest..so good for Obama.
This is the second time the Obama administration has tried to deflect political pressure over the proposed $ 7 billion, 1,700-mile Keystone XL pipeline, which last year sparked debate over U.S. energy and environmental policy.
Boston bombing was.. is??_.!
Never mind??_. Go back all to your stable and say B——— as loud as possible.
Fucking DXP sheeples??_!
cont'd
At one point, about 12,000 people demonstrated outside the White House against the project, while the oil industry, construction unions and the Canadian government lobbied in favor of it.
Posted by Qbone
Boston bombing was.. is??_.!Never mind??_. Go back all to your stable and say B——— as loud as possible.
Fucking DXP sheeples??_!
I'll say "fuck you" before "baaaaaaaa" any day!🙂 I don't trust our government AT ALL and I never will.
Canadians can keep their filthy dirty oil and dump that shit in their own country. Keep it off American soil.
OMG. The media is bringing us the NEWS. Any little scrap of crap they dig up is news. They are not working with the government. They are not trying to warp your brain into believing bullshit they want you to believe.
USE YOUR BRAIN. Filter out the bullshit.
lol..this just in
"The Mississippi man accused of sending ricin-tainted letters to President Barack Obama and other officials has been released from federal custody, a spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service said today.
Paul Kevin Curtis, an Elvis impersonator from Corinth, Mississippi, was charged with sending a threat to the president last week after letters containing the deadly toxin triggered a security scare in Washington. But a preliminary hearing that had been scheduled to continue today was canceled and Curtis was released.
Jeff Woodfin, a chief deputy marshal, said Curtis was no longer in federal custody but did not know the circumstances surrounding his release.
Get complete coverage of breaking news on CNN.com"
Posted by Grey
why would anyone trust the government. hello? It is politics.......poli= many
tics= blood sucking creaturesNewt Gingrich is into open marriages and wife swapping. he wants to come into your house too.
That ugly creep shows up here, he'll have a full understanding of the 2nd amendment! What a creepy ass bastard! ugh
Posted by Grey
why would anyone trust the government. hello? It is politics.......poli= many
tics= blood sucking creaturesNewt Gingrich is into open marriages and wife swapping. he wants to come into your house too.
Ok, now I always wondered about that Newtie....
*squinty eyes*
Posted by LetltB
Canadians can keep their filthy dirty oil and dump that shit in their own country. Keep it off American soil.😕
Crude oil is crude oil.
Crude oil needs to be processed and refined anyway. Oil will be "filthy dirty oil" in any case, before it is refined in either the US or Canada.
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STFU and do your homework know it all..this is tar sands.
"Environmentalists are concerned that if the pipeline leaks or a spill occurs, the heavy tar sands will contaminate water and land. The tar sands, they argue, are more difficult to clean than regular crude, and U.S. pipeline regulations aren't suited to transport the product. They also say refining the product will further pollute air in the Texas Gulf Coast. Texas already leads the nation in greenhouse gas emissions and industrial pollution.
Those clumps of canadian shit has to be heated to move it through the pipes.
Posted by Grey
Didn't he leave his wife because she had cancer? I heard he left his wife also because she was not open to him seeing other women. Newty boy is a gemini.
Heh. Well that explains everything.
Posted by Sutekh
Newt Gingrich is fire and Air, Dude has Sun merc gemini, Moon Sagittarius, Venus Leo and Mars Aries.. Thats why he was talking about moon colonies n shyt. He is assertive and ambitious, out of the box thinker but isnt grounded.
LOL! Freaky deaky
was the atlanta olympic bombing a conspiracy?? or timothy mcveigh?? what about the 1st WTC attack in 93?? Pan Am 103 Bombing in 88??
seems like anything that happens out of the ordinary nowadays since 9/11 is a conspiracy..i blame the internet.
Posted by DAMEN VI
was the atlanta olympic bombing a conspiracy?? or timothy mcveigh?? what about the 1st WTC attack in 93?? Pan Am 103 Bombing in 88??seems like anything that happens out of the ordinary nowadays since 9/11 is a conspiracy..i blame the internet.
those were all conspiracies, how else would they be carried out. Question is who did it.
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a U.S government conspiracy is what im saying..
why is so far fetched for conspiracy theorist to believe that its some people in this world that just don't like U.S of A?? lol..this country has definitely done enough of things throughout history to warrant the hate, so i don't blame them..
its like you guys think that the government is so powerful and secure that its no way somebody could commit terrorist acts without help from the U.S..if i was a terrorist i'd be insulted by you guys honestly
so what is this the ultimate goal for the government & powers that be: they want to take our guns, spy on us, insert a rfid chip in us, and if we don't agree to it, they'll inforce marshall law and put us in concentration camps?? then the final plan is to do us like the germans did the jews & depopulate the world to 500 million?? serious questions
Posted by Grey
well how about you read some of their intent on the Georgia guidestones. Henry kissinger himself stated that they want population reduction.
yeah i read it and i agree with the guidestones..im joining the illuminati while the rest of you guys get put in gas chambers..you and your kind are cancers of the earth
I just love reading b.s. from someone who claims he's canadian yet expresses American policy and our constitutional amendments like he's a citizen, yet doesn't even know what's going on in his own backyard.😢
Posted by Montgomery
I hope you don't think that Noam Chomsky's credentials, or even his heritage, exempt him from being classified (correctly) as an agenda-driven propagandist; you would be mistaken.They merely grant him impunity from much of the media's scrutiny (though fortunately, not all).
Alex Jones simply provides the layman's version of the same nonsense.
🙂
I'd rather sit through an hour of "Leftist" scholarship (or at least an attempt to approximate *some* level of critical thinking supported by historiography) than rifle through photos on the internet woven into a grand cloak-and-dagger story by a Right-wing media-whore.
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As you like it. 😉
But it is no different than a preference for gourmet restaurants over barbeque joints (best!)-- you're still eating Roast Beast. (sp. intentional)
As for Chomsky v. Jones--
One is an intellectual with virtually no practical, real-world knowledge; the other is a charismatic, radio-talk show host.
Meaning, they are paid to run their mouths-- and they do it very well.
BOTH are Capitalists with a very popular schtick (the same one, mind you), and both make money hand over fist, at our expense.
And both are equally full of shit.
🙂
Posted by LetltB
I just love reading b.s. from someone who claims he's canadian yet expresses American policy and our constitutional amendments like he's a citizen,Interesting how a lot of "furriners" know it better than you do.
Nearly every University in this country has some sort of American Studies branch.
Oh look:
http://www.utoronto.ca/csus/
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yea..sure ok Seraph
Posted by Grey
well how about you read some of their intent on the Georgia guidestones. Henry kissinger himself stated that they want population reduction.yeah i read it and i agree with the guidestones..im joining the illuminati while the rest of you guys get put in gas chambers..you and your kind are cancers of the earth
thanks man. i knew you would understand. dumbass
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when your living underground in a sewer somewhere, eating rat burgers for dinner & hiding out from the government,and im living good above ground,chilling with my microchip blinging thru my skin and having intergalactic cybersex with a amazon chick that has a 56 inch ass & 4 tits, then we'll see who's really the dumbass
Get a green card and then maybe I'll talk to you
I'm a union shop, automotive, and I have no "quota".
you REALLY DO cherry pick!
do you REALLY think an employer is going to look at two apps and the more qualified person will be turned down because they are a few shades darker than another person with less qualifications?
that's not gonna happen....not when it's hard enough to fill positions with good people.
It does in colleges...if we are looking for meaningful answers here, I thought I'd throw that in.
Posted by Grey
well how about you read some of their intent on the Georgia guidestones. Henry kissinger himself stated that they want population reduction.yeah i read it and i agree with the guidestones..im joining the illuminati while the rest of you guys get put in gas chambers..you and your kind are cancers of the earth
thanks man. i knew you would understand. dumbass
when your living underground in a sewer somewhere, eating rat burgers for dinner & hiding out from the government,and im living good above ground,chilling with my microchip blinging thru my skin and having intergalactic cybersex with a amazon chick that has a 56 inch ass & 4 tits, then we'll see who's really the dumbass
lmfao Damen trolling like a muhfcka right now
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im just sayin...life is much easier when you go with the grain instead of against it
don't fight the illuminati, be apart of it
It does in colleges...if we are looking for meaningful answers here, I thought I'd throw that in.
Also, and I know this might be hard for some to imagine--the person hiring might actually be Black. 😕 Whodathunk it....?
Either way, I'm interested in knowing why one is different from the other? The college question is legit and a fact.
It does in colleges...if we are looking for meaningful answers here, I thought I'd throw that in.
so if a light skinned black man and dark skinned black man were at the admissions desk....and the dark skinned black man had better credentials....
you are saying the light skinned black man would get in because he's light skinned?
because that is essentially what sutekh is saying.
No, I'm saying BOTH the dark skinned and the light skinned will get in OVER a qualified white man/woman. So if we go back to your question on the application process for employment, tell us what the difference is and why.
It's full of them. And "brown" and "yellow" and "tan."
We just don't make an issue out of it.
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Exactly. As it should not be here. I used an example opposite of sutekh but apparently it whooshed into space.
Nevermind..glad to see you talking about your own country, cause you really piss me the fuck off when you stick your nose in mine.
Posted by ellessque
keep chasing ghosts that have no real power over your life unless you hand it over.who the hell even needs to go to an ivy league school anymore?
Those will eventually go bankrupt too.
Times are changing and you are holding up the line!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I definitely won't argue that point. Get a degree, then claim bankruptcy is the drill of late.
Posted by tiziani
LIB is from Napoli. I am a wannabe Italian. We always understand each other.
No my great granparents and grandparents are (were). I am of the Napolitano blood 😉
The people in the "middle" make up the majority, and that was felt really hard during the recession. That recession was bogus and an attempt to eliminate the middle class all together. The G8 had been planning that for years. They never realized that if we fall....they fall harder because they have a much larger distance to the ground.
Those ^^^would be the people bending over grabbing their ankles... The Caesar days with the rich.
History repeats itself...when we start seeing helicopters tossing out loaves of bread, we're in big trouble.
Regular public schools are closing down left and right around here, and being turned into political buildings. I have a HUGE problem with that!
as far as the schools shutting down, I'm all for consolidation. public schools need a complete "do over". from the top to the bottom. the administrators were making more money than they ever should have based on how many schools were under their umbrella....regardless if it was a decent school or not...that is why we had so many "dysfunctional" public schools to begin with.
the only way to really change that is to get involved in local politics and the school boards. the states control that, the federal government only subsidizes. we seen how fucked we were when the feds got involved with the "no child left behind" act. it's best to keep them completely out of it and only use them as needed. the states are completely capable of running their own operations.
See now, if I KNEW the consolidation was for the benefit of the kids, I'd be all for it. The Administrators will make MORE money as a result of consolidation, just watch that. More kids, more responsibilities, more work, blah, blah, blah..What happens is the teacher to child ratio gets overwhelmed again, and we have a repeat of the 80's. Just push the kids through. I totally believe politics need to get the hell out of the public school system, and I believe there is a better way to meet this half way without closing the schools down. One administrator per county..let the bastards earn that sweet salary they get. Keep the key teaching positions open (high school regents teachers), have more part time teachers by scheduling accordingly. It can be done, but because politicians have their noses so far up the school's asses, they won't compromise. One would think that the school taxes would go down with all this consolidation..HA..think again. It's not happening. In the end the kids lose.
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I just ran into this on Facebook, still not sure what to make of it but it certainly looks more than your typical conspiracy theory, check it out, what do you think?
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU