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Posted by IntriguedScorp
Seraph, read this and then let's have a discussion. This guy is not a nut job--he's one of the great minds of advertising.

http://free-ebooks-spot.blogspot.com/2010/10/propaganda-edward-bernays.html<BR>
Here's an excerpt:

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."


He wrote this in 1928.



Granted you actually watch tv or are interested in fads or what anyone tells.
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Posted by ellessque
that's why you have to get involved.

alot of people let the same people take those positions over and over again because they don't go out and actually vote. some people still only vote during a presidential year.

I don't know about NY, but here in IN, we vote these people in and out of office....the school board, the superintendent, common council...etc.




Ok..would you believe I was thrown out of a recent BOA meeting? Yup..and here's the kicker. Only a handful stood up to what I was getting across right there and then. (I didn't raise my voice once either, I was communicating in my Scorp merc way in a nice even but detailed direct tone)...It was about the 5.3 million dollar budget (another increase in property taxes). After I was escorted out I went home. By the end of the night all of the cowardly assholes (the PTA folk, and bystanders) e-mailed me or left me voicemails thanking me for speaking up and they agreed with me.

So I fixed their asses, I showed up at the next one named every single one of them, had some choice words AGAIN about where the budget was going and but before they could throw me out had an exit line before and hung them all the peace sign. I got a standing ovation for that and will NEVER go back to a politically stacked bullshit meeting again!
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Posted by IntriguedScorp

The Tea Party was a spontaneuos movement that perhaps got usurped by the Right Wing. Millions of people from all walks of life spontaneously rose up to protest overspending and what we are seeing happening now in our country. The left jumped on it and mocked it as all racists ALMOST immediately. But if you look at the gneiss of the Tea Party--it was a spontaneous uprising.

Now what happened after and how normal Americans just became manipulated further on the path is a different story. At the beginning it was not political.

Stop buying all the shit thrown your way.




Yea..millions of people from all walks of life were spontaneously exploited is what that was. Those were people with HOPE. I looked into it before I jumped on that bullshit wagon, and I smelled greed. So now we should ask..where's the MILLIONS those people gave for that hope?


In some schmucks pocket that got them into the political arena that's where. EXPLOITATION and a violation of the people's trust.
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Yea..millions of people from all walks of life were spontaneously exploited is what that was. Those were people with HOPE. I looked into it before I jumped on that bullshit wagon, and I smelled greed. So now we should ask..where's the MILLIONS those people gave for that hope?


In some schmucks pocket that got them into the political arena that's where. EXPLOITATION and a violation of the people's trust.




I also want to add...those MILLIONS of people were pissed off people. They took that passion and innocently poured their hearts, souls and MONEY into something that came back and bit them all in the ass. ENTER SHOCK! They went extinct because they were so goddamned embarrassed realizing they were exploited financially and that hope squashed.

The only way actions will speak in this country is a civil unrest. I still say the peaceful way to do it...everyone stock up at home..warmer summer months. EVERYONE STAY HOME FOR 7 DAYS..no electric, no NOTHING, no buying, no driving nothing. Wanna see corporations shit their pants? Shut them down for a week. Peaceful protest yet powerful. SILENT POWER...
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oops got cut off...

The only loss my idea would cost is a weeks pay or use vacation/sick/personal time...whatever it takes. Could you imagine if everyone stayed home for 7 days in America? It speaks VOLUMES. I can guarantee you not one politician would be in on it either lol That's the best part.

Why do you think the Left jumped on it so damn hard? Because they were given just *so damn much* to work with. Shit, if I were a Democratic political strategist, it'd be like half-price day at Chuck E. Cheese's every day. Great ideas turn to crap when they fall into the hands of political (and social) extremists. In which case those ideas can no longer be trusted, because they'll get twisted into (in this case) far-right ideology.

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Posted by Sizzurp
Fear is really the only way to control a group of people with the ability to vote. Not love or anger, but fear.




Yea, I guess if you're a coward. People that see through the bullshit don't get afraid. It's so bad now, the majority of people are beyond fear, it's more like "what do I have to lose? Bring it big politic man..." lol It's getting close to that.
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Posted by Sizzurp
Fear is really the only way to control a group of people with the ability to vote. Not love or anger, but fear.



Well there's always greed, too. But one of the two, agreed.



That's about right. Everyone wants their own pyramid, but there isn't too many spaces available for pharaoh. Greed+hope can be disastrous!
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Well, the Tea Party was a good lesson for many I'm sure, and an excellent eye opener on how greedy these bastards can be and what they will do to get to the top of the pyramid. DISGUSTING!
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Posted by seraph
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One is an intellectual with virtually no practical, real-world knowledge; the other is a charismatic, radio-talk show host.



I'll take the left-of-centre intellectual over a talk-show host, thanks.

And to claim that as an intellectual he has no "real world" knowledge is specious at best.



You seems to be under the impression that I am, in some way, "rooting" for Jones-- I assure you, I'm not.

And if Chomsky has any practical experience, outside of academia, I've yet to hear about it (because it doesn't exist).


Posted by seraph
As a political critic, and as someone who's written widely on the "Manufacture of Consent" as well as elucidating the intellectual's ideal role as a responsible exponent of social concerns, he's one of the best intellectuals in service of what is far more truth than what you get from most of those who are a) right-of-center, and b) in service of the government.
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Chomsky's "Manufacture of Consent" was only another vehicle to drive his agenda, which is not very popular in the US -- keep in mind that in addition to being a "political critic" he is also a political activist.

The best lies always contain a bit of truth, you know, and as an activist, he has a very specific agenda.

"More truth" is not the "whole truth"-- I'm not sure how you justify that to yourself, but yes-- I'm sure that of the two, Chomsky is more palatable.


And wtf at emphasizing "Manufacture of Consent" when you bought the media's hatchet-job of the Tea Party, hook line and sinker.

You apply that concept only when it endangers your own agenda?


Oh my-- smh

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Posted by IntriguedScorp
My favorite Bullshit explanation happened on April 15 with this headline: Boston Marathon, Waco Texas, Oklahoma City Bombing all Happened--OMG!--in April. OMG they must be related!! Oh fuck!! lmao. Haha. WTF does WACO or OC have to do with the Boston Bombing--exactly NOTHING. Yet right out of the box this same fucking headline appeared in 11K websites! Yes, I said 11,000. These guys think we are stupid.

Did I mention that OC and WACO were mentioned with Boston 64K times in the same sentence on APRIL 15th. Sounds suspiciously pre-determined to me. What a load of crap.

I hate the media.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/boston-marathon-explosion-waco-raid-oklahoma-city-bombing-all-happened-in-april/



LOL! 😛 Hilarious
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Kinda makes ya think..why wasn't this kid(s) being watched closer by the FBI or the US official to avoid this mess—

"Russian authorities intercepted a communication in 2011 between the mother of the accused Boston Marathon bombers and someone who may have been one of her sons "discussing jihad," a U.S. official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti.


The Russians turned over their intercept of the conversation -- which the official described as vague -- to the FBI only in the past few days, the official said.


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Posted by Wynter
Boston bombing suspects' mother was in U.S. terror database

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/27/17945669-boston-bombing-suspects-mother-was-in-us-terror-database?lite<BR>


Well fuck me runnin', mama is a terrorist too. Surprise, surprise.



What makes her a terrorist?
Interesting when this whole thing went down, Mom was saying the FBI knew exactly what her sons were doing. Then all of a sudden she is accused of being a terrorist. LOL

Google: FALSE FLAG TERRORISM
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I'm not into conspiracy theories personally, but the majority of Americans in general are fucking retards and it's embarrassing.

Just like the 9/11 terrorists were reportedly SAUDI ARABIAN, and we went to war with IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, and seemingly not one American saw a problem with it because they don't know the fucking difference...
is the same way the majority will not question that these suspects were actually responsible because they are of Arabic descent!

No one seemed to be able to put it together that Jr. might be finishing what his papa started years ago??
Right.

& this is also why shit like this will continue to happen and no one will think anything of it because we don't use our brains and think for ourselves.

We'll all hang our American flags from our mail boxes and cars again and proclaim how proud we are to be Americans and how we should nuke them all if that's what it takes.


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Posted by brianafay
I'm not into conspiracy theories personally, but the majority of Americans in general are fucking retards and it's embarrassing.

Just like the 9/11 terrorists were reportedly SAUDI ARABIAN, and we went to war with IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, and seemingly not one American saw a problem with it because they don't know the fucking difference...
is the same way the majority will not question that these suspects were actually responsible because they are of Arabic descent!

No one seemed to be able to put it together that Jr. might be finishing what his papa started years ago??
Right.

& this is also why shit like this will continue to happen and no one will think anything of it because we don't use our brains and think for ourselves.

We'll all hang our American flags from our mail boxes and cars again and proclaim how proud we are to be Americans and how we should nuke them all if that's what it takes.






Hush??_!

Been saying very same thing for 10 years long in this very damn site and got stamped as (HATER) sometimes (RACIST) as well.

Redneck retard is redneck retard, proud, ignorant and arrogant??_. I am just waiting for boiling point when shit hit the fan!


SOON..!
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Posted by james tate
YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING SOON FOR TEN YEARS AND IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
YOPU ARE ON Y TERRIOST LIST Q





You old drunk ??_

I??ve never said SOON until now and don't you worry it??ll happen, just keep your lorry engine running and when the shit hit the fan pick bling and I on your way running to the east.



PS!

I may turn you to the Iranian (Eyeraninan to you and the other illiterate ignorant) authorities for the sheer fun of it.
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Posted by brianafay
I'm not into conspiracy theories personally, but the majority of Americans in general are fucking retards and it's embarrassing.

Just like the 9/11 terrorists were reportedly SAUDI ARABIAN, and we went to war with IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, and seemingly not one American saw a problem with it because they don't know the fucking difference...
is the same way the majority will not question that these suspects were actually responsible because they are of Arabic descent!

No one seemed to be able to put it together that Jr. might be finishing what his papa started years ago??
Right.

& this is also why shit like this will continue to happen and no one will think anything of it because we don't use our brains and think for ourselves.

We'll all hang our American flags from our mail boxes and cars again and proclaim how proud we are to be Americans and how we should nuke them all if that's what it takes.




All of this would have been pretty irreverent, if your people knew how to punch a chad! ijs
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Lol my people? college students or Floridians?

OH, BOTH! 😛