DXP Survivor 2 Part VI (Page 3)

Something about the early bird getting the worm comes to mind. Anyway...

25 seasons of Survivor have been completed and aired thus far. The winner of this challenge will collect 8 points and immunity from the vote that will follow. To claim your immunity and points, post the full chart for the winner of each of these seasons, taking care to ensure it is readily apparent to which winner each chart belongs. As specific birth times are not available for all winners, planetary placements are all that is needed.

After collecting this information and posting it, you will need to formulate and defend in a single post a theory as to which astrological placement(s) offer the greatest predictive power for who will ultimately win based on the winners' natal charts. (Planets only, as the aspects are largely meaningless without specific birth times.) There is some leeway in the latter portion of this challenge, so make your case well. If you would like to attempt to poke holes in your competitors?? theories, you??re more than welcome to do so. If no one perfectly answers the challenge, the player who is closest will win. The challenge will end 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds after the time stamp on this post. Good luck!

Season 1 Richard Hatch
April 8, 1961
Sun-Aries
Moon-Capricon
Mercury -Pisces
Venus-Aries
Mars-Cancer
Jupiter-Aquarius
Saturn-Capricorn
Uranus-Leo
Pluto-Virgo

Season 2 Tina Wesson
December 26, 1960
Sun-Capricorn
Moon-Aries
Mercury -Sagittarius
Venus-Aquarius
Mars-Cancer
Jupiter-Capricorn
Saturn-Capricorn
Uranus-Leo
Neptune-Scorpio
Pluto-Virgo

Season 3 Ethon Zohn
November 12, 1973
Sun-Scorpio
Moon-Gemini
Mercury -Scorpio
Venus-Capricorn
Mars-Aries
Jupiter-Aquarius
Saturn-Cancer
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 4 Vecepia Towery
December 9, 1965
Sun-Sagittarius
Moon-Cancer
Mercury -Sagittarius
Venus-Aquarius
Mars-Capricorn
Jupiter-Gemini
Saturn-Pisces
Uranus-Virgo
Neptune-Scorpio
Pluto-Virgo

Season 5 Brian Heidik
March 9, 1968
Sun-Pisces
Moon-Cancer
Mercury -Aquarius
Venus-Aquarius
Mars-Aries
Jupiter-Leo
Saturn-Aries
Uranus-Virgo
Neptune-Scorpio
Pluto-Virgo

Season 6 Jenna Morasca
February 15, 1981
Sun-Aquarius
Moon-Cancer
Mercury -Pisces
Venus-Aquarius
Mars-Pisces
Jupiter-Libra
Saturn-Libra
Uranus-Scorpio
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 7 Sandra Diaz-Twine
July 30, 1974
Sun-Leo
Moon-Sagittarius
Mercury -Cancer
Venus-Cancer
Mars-Virgo
Jupiter-Pisces
Saturn-Cancer
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 8 Amber Brkich
August 11, 1978
Sun-Leo
Moon-Scorpio
Mercury -Virgo
Venus-Libra
Mars-Libra
Jupiter-Cancer
Saturn-Virgo
Uranus-Scorpio
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 9 Chris Daugherty
Sun-Virgo
Moon-Leo
Mercury -Virgo
Venus-Libra
Mars-Leo
Jupiter-Scorpio
Saturn-Taurus
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Scorpio
Pluto-Virgo

Season 10 Tom Westman
January 4, 1964
Sun-Capricorn
Moon-Virgo
Mercury -Capricorn
Venus-Aquarius
Mars-Capricorn
Jupiter-Aries
Saturn-Aquarius
Uranus-Virgo
Neptune-Scorpio
Pluto-Virgo

Season 11 Danni Boatwright
July 13, 1975
Sun-Cancer
Moon-Virgo
Mercury -Cancer
Venus-Virgo
Mars-Taurus
Jupiter-Aries
Saturn-Cancer
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 12 Aras Baskauskas
September 26, 1981
Sun-Libra
Moon-Virgo
Mercury -Libra
Venus-Scorpio
Mars-Leo
Jupiter-Libra
Saturn-Libra
Uranus-Scorpio
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 13 Yul Kwon
February 14, 1975
Sun-Aquarius
Moon-Aries
Mercury -Aquarius
Venus-Pisces
Mars-Capricorn
Jupiter-Pisces
Saturn-Cancer
Uranus-Scorpio
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 14 Earl Cole
April 9, 1971
Sun-Aries
Moon-Libra
Mercury -Taurus
Venus-Pisces
Mars-Capricorn
Jupiter-Sagittarius
Saturn-Taurus
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Virgo

Season 15 Todd Herzog
January 29, 1985
Sun-Aquarius
Moon-Taurus
Mercury -Capricorn
Venus-Pisces
Mars-Pisces
Jupiter-Capricorn
Saturn-Scorpio
Uranus-Sagittarius
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

Season 16 Parvati Shallow
September 21, 1982
Sun-Virgo
Moon-Scorpio
Mercury -Libra
Venus-Virgo
Mars-Sagittarius
Jupiter-Scorpio
Saturn-Libra
Uranus-Sagittarius
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 17 Robert Crowley
February 25, 1951
Sun-Pisces
Moon-Libra
Mercury -Aquarius
Venus-Aries
Mars-Pisces
Jupiter-Pisces
Saturn-Libra
Uranus-Cancer
Neptune-Libra
Pluto-Leo

Season 18 James Thomas Jr.
June 23, 1984
Sun-Cancer
Moon-Aries
Mercury -Cancer
Venus-Cancer
Mars-Scorpio
Jupiter-Capricorn
Saturn-Scorpio
Uranus-Sagittarius
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 19 Natalie White
April 22, 1983
Sun-Taurus
Moon-Virgo
Mercury -Taurus
Venus-Gemini
Mars-Taurus
Jupiter-Sagittarius
Saturn-Scorpio
Uranus-Sagittarius
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 20 Sandra Diaz-Twine
July 30, 1974
Sun-Leo
Moon-Sagittarius
Mercury -Cancer
Venus-Cancer
Mars-Virgo
Jupiter-Pisces
Saturn-Cancer
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 21 Jud Birza
June 12, 1989
Sun-Gemini
Moon-Libra
Mercury -Gemini
Venus-Cancer
Mars-Cancer
Jupiter-Gemini
Saturn-Capricorn
Uranus-Capricorn
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

Season 22 Rob Mariano
December 25, 1975
Sun-Capricorn
Moon-Libra
Mercury -Capricorn
Venus-Scorpio
Mars-Gemini
Jupiter-Aries
Saturn-Leo
Uranus-Scorpio
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 23 Sophie Clark
July 10, 1989
Sun-Cancer
Moon-Libra
Mercury -Cancer
Venus-Leo
Mars-Leo
Jupiter-Gemini
Saturn-Capricorn
Uranus-Capricorn
Neptune-Capricorn
Pluto-Scorpio

Season 24 Kim Spradlin
January 30, 1983
Sun-Aquarius
Moon-Virgo
Mercury -Capricorn
Venus-Pisces
Mars-Pisces
Jupiter-Sagittarius
Saturn-Scorpio
Uranus-Sagittarius
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Libra

Season 25 Denise Stapley
January 1, 1971
Sun-Capricorn
Moon-Pisces
Mercury -Capricorn
Venus-Scorpio
Mars-Scorpio
Jupiter-Scorpio
Saturn-Taurus
Uranus-Libra
Neptune-Sagittarius
Pluto-Virgo

Going by the numbers purely

Sun-32% Capricorn or Aqua (honorable mention to 24% Cancer or Leo)
Moon-40% % Virgo or Libra (not what I would have expected)
Mercury-40% Cancer or Capricorn
Venus-20% Aquaruis(most placed Venus) 32% Cancer or Pisces
Mars-32% Capricorn or Pisces (You go Mars in Pisces!)(honorable mention to 24% Cancer or Leo)

If I were to give a 100% for each placement sun=100% , moon=100% , etc. summing up to 500% and any sign that shares first place in desirable placement for winner having only 50% of that placement it would show that.

Capricorn=150%
Aquarius=150%
Cancer=50%
Virgo=50%
Libra=50%
Pisces=50%

Thus, the most desirable placements for the planets that I would presume matter would be to have them either in:
Capricorn=150%
or
Aquarius=150%

But this is generalizing of course to an extent. I am also not taking into consideration cuspers mainly because not everyone believes in that sort of thing. Also, important to note is that time of birth is not considered at all; everyone is assumed to be born at 12:00 pm.

However, Looking at it from another perspective... as in which mode placements are the most prevalent in the winners.
Fixed-35
Cardinal-53
Mutable-36

As well as which elements have the most placements in winners
Fire-23
Earth-34
Air-28
Water-40!(I don't know WTF is up with that?)

So, objectively speaking considering it appears best to have placements that are of the Mode Cardinal and of the Element Water one would come to the conclusion that Cancers... are the Ultimate Survivor... and believe it or not the only survivor contestant to win survivor twice is Sandra Diaz-Twine who is Sun-Leo_Cancer cusper, as well as has Mercury and Venus in Cancer.

So....judging from the fact that Capricorn and Aquarius have won the most survivors overall, that cardinal is the most desirable mode of placement, and that water is apparently the most desirable element... It appears that the three best signs to have the planets Sun, Moon(not really a planet btw), Mercury, Venus, and Mars in are
Cancer
Capricorn
Aquarius

The End 🙂

Posted by xdimplez
Anyone with Leo fire for the win!

Hi feb

Well I'll say this if your going to be a fixed sun sign.... if your not going to be Aquarius at least be Leo.. all other fixed sun signs can't even come close in comparison.

in truth by mode:

Cardinal-Cancer or Capricorn

Fixed-Aquarius or Leo

Mutable-Virgo or Pisces

All other signs are just non factor in winning when it comes to natal chart placements
*****
I really have a heard time accepting the cancer one but statistics don't lie... of all signs of the zodiac, cancer lol wins out right....

Cancer has 18 placements among the winners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTF is that yo?
Capricorn has 15 placements among the winners
Aquarius has 12 placements among the winners

So who won last Debate?

Is this silence indicative of me not earning Immunity yet?

I did say that everyone had 24 hours to get their submissions in, so we won't know who's immune until after the deadline.

Awww gotcha

You know what I find surprising is that there is only 1Scorpio Sun as a winner

Seriously, Mars in Scorpio is inferior to Mars in Cancer, Mars in Leo, Mars in Cap....
Mars in Scorpio is inferior to even ....Mars in Pisces lol go figure?

There are many interesting observations that can be made about the winners' placements. I noticed a couple of things, but I won't say any more until after the deadline has passed.

So, I forgot Neptune on Richard Hatch....

Season 1 Richard Hatch
April 8, 1961
Sun-Aries
Moon-Capricon
Mercury -Pisces
Venus-Aries
Mars-Cancer
Jupiter-Aquarius
Saturn-Capricorn
Uranus-Leo
(Neptune-Scorpio)
Pluto-Virgo

The correction..

Can I touch yours?

LOL

Hmm she likes you feb

Der Dert Dert Dert

Time stamp was 9:32 for me.

I'm going to try to forget about this thread so I stop thinking about it 🙂

Posted by robyn808
they all have nipples!

They also all have feet! 😛

Oh man apologies. Been losing lots of brain cells over the last 3 days lol. I don't think I can decrypt much after all that!

Sup Snoz

Feet are very useful for a wide variety of activities.

Congratulations are owed to the ladies for proving to the gents that real is better than artificial. Well played, girls!

Posted by robyn808
😄

I see what you're into.

Given that only one of you attempted the challenge, NYAA won by default.

Current point tally:

29 - NYAA
25 - xdimplez
25 - feb16aqua
13 - aquasnoz

Please submit your votes for who is out. NYAA's immune. Assuming the votes are in, there will be a new debate up here tomorrow evening at 9PM EST.

I'll see your nippled foot and raise you one hairy chest.

Were there any interesting facts you were looking for with that survivor challenge Stoic?

I was just curious if you saw anything astrologically that would offer some predictive powers on who might win. There was no definite answer to that question, although I am intrigued by how you ranked the Aqua Sun so high in your post. Why did you say that? I'm writing up what I see right now.

Posted by StoicGoat
I was just curious if you saw anything astrologically that would offer some predictive powers on who might win. There was no definite answer to that question, although I am intrigued by how you ranked the Aqua Sun so high in your post. Why did you say that? I'm writing up what I see right now.

I say that because both Cap Sun and Aqua Sun have won it the most times plus.... Aqua has a lot of placements like 12 ....I mean as long as the moons are right, both Pisces and Virgo technically have one more than it with 13; BUT both those sun signs have only won survivor 2 or less. That is the only reason I ranked Aqua ahead of them. Cancer and Cap have the most placements over all period.

Chippendales to your SI

Posted by robyn808
how did you find out what they're moons?

Dates and places of birth. I had to assume noon for the time because I could only find a handful of actual birth times. As I recall, some of them were really close, so actual times could definitely make a difference.

It appears I goofed. Wonder if it will have any impact on my wagers...

Yo there were only 3 cancer Suns boooaaay BUT their was 4 Aqua Suns 😄

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Yo there were only 3 cancer Suns boooaaay BUT their was 4 Aqua Suns 😄

You have the wrong DOB for Kim Spradlin 😄

Posted by StoicGoat

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Yo there were only 3 cancer Suns boooaaay BUT their was 4 Aqua Suns 😄

You have the wrong DOB for Kim Spradlin 😄

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oh wow .... lol website had a typo.....-_-

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius

Posted by StoicGoat

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Yo there were only 3 cancer Suns boooaaay BUT their was 4 Aqua Suns 😄

You have the wrong DOB for Kim Spradlin 😄

oh wow .... lol website had a typo.....-_-

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What website are you looking at? I've found two different dates of birth for her on multiple websites now... :/

Posted by StoicGoat

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius

Posted by StoicGoat

Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Yo there were only 3 cancer Suns boooaaay BUT their was 4 Aqua Suns 😄

You have the wrong DOB for Kim Spradlin 😄

oh wow .... lol website had a typo.....-_-

What website are you looking at? I've found two different dates of birth for her on multiple websites now... :/

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OMG then what is the REAL date then how the hell are you supposed to find that out damn!

It's a good thing I'm not actually planning to make any bets based on this info or I'd be seriously annoyed!

I'm just going to exclude her since there seems to be some disagreement over her DOB.

Interesting! Excluding Kim, whose birthdate seems a bit unclear, we have:

5 winners with a Virgo Moon

5 winners with a Cancer Mercury

5 winners with an Aqua Venus

4 winners with a Cap Sun

4 winners with a Cap Mars

And no Aqua Moon, Mercury in Aries or Leo, Venus in Taurus or Sag, or an Aqua Mars.

The person who has 4 of the 5 most frequently occurring placements seen in the winners? Tom Westman. Virgo Moon, Aqua Venus, Cap Sun, Cap Mars.

Checking against Kim with both of her possible dates of birth only requires the Aqua Mars exclusion to be removed. Tom remains the owner of the greatest quantity of winning placements under both of her dates of birth.

What is with the cancer in mercury shit ha!