DXP Survivor 2014 Part II

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The following debate topic will have the two teams squaring off on opposite sides of the same issue. You have the option to choose whether you will be arguing for or against, but you have to make your choice before the topic is revealed. The first team member??s post claiming —for?? or —against?? gets it. The opposing side will be assigned to your opponent by default. Go!
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There has been a great deal of discussion about censorship. Whether that is over the censorship of what is broadcast over public airwaves, the legitimacy of hate speech laws, the community flagging of threads on DXP??_the list of examples is virtually limitless. Airheads, you have chosen to argue against censorship. Downy Dryer Sheets, you must argue in favor of it.

For the purpose of this debate censorship shall be defined as —the intentional suppression of information by an individual, group, entity, or government body, or any agent acting under the direction, authority, or influence thereof.?? Note that parent/child, adult/minor, and similar relationships are specifically excluded from the subject matter of this debate. We are not discussing mom??s right (human or civil) to determine what 9 year old Johnny can/cannot read/watch/hear. To offer just one example, we??re discussing whether a government should have the right to order YouTube to remove or limit the availability of a video that contains content it does not want made available to viewers.

This is neither a law class nor a legal debate. Any player citing law(s), current, former, and/or proposed, as the basis for his/her argument(s) will be removed to a windowless room by Sergei for compulsory reeducation. Any such statements and any replies made to them will be ignored during the judging process.

This topic is a bit —looser?? than I prefer, but it does not lend itself particularly well to tightening up, so if you have any questions, ask them now. The debate will start after the questions are answered, assuming there are any. If no questions are asked before 9:30 PM EST, that will be the start time for this debate.
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The following debate topic will have the two teams squaring off on opposite sides of the same issue. You have the option to choose whether you will be arguing for or against, but you have to make your choice before the topic is revealed. The first team member??s post claiming —for?? or —against?? gets it. The opposing side will be assigned to your opponent by default. Go!



I just noticed your AVI. lol
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I tried to choose the photos that showed me in the best light. 😄
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Posted by Damnata
Laws don't apply. Can studies apply? Books? Anything else we feel might help us?

Sure. Only that content posted in the thread will be considered part of/supporting your argument.



So a link wont suffice? The part of the study from the link has to actually be quoted in the post?
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Correct. It is not possible to link to specific content, anyway.
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There has been a great deal of discussion about censorship. Whether that is over the censorship of what is broadcast over public airwaves, the legitimacy of hate speech laws, the community flagging of threads on DXP??_the list of examples is virtually limitless. Airheads, you have chosen to argue against censorship. Downy Dryer Sheets, you must argue in favor of it.

For the purpose of this debate censorship shall be defined as —the intentional suppression of information by an individual, group, entity, or government body, or any agent acting under the direction, authority, or influence thereof.?? Note that parent/child, adult/minor, and similar relationships are specifically excluded from the subject matter of this debate. We are not discussing mom??s right (human or civil) to determine what 9 year old Johnny can/cannot read/watch/hear. To offer just one example, we??re discussing whether a government should have the right to order YouTube to remove or limit the availability of a video that contains content it does not want made available to viewers.

This is neither a law class nor a legal debate. Any player citing law(s), current, former, and/or proposed, as the basis for his/her argument(s) will be removed to a windowless room by Sergei for compulsory reeducation. Any such statements and any replies made to them will be ignored during the judging process.

This topic is a bit —looser?? than I prefer, but it does not lend itself particularly well to tightening up, so if you have any questions, ask them now. The debate will start after the questions are answered, assuming there are any. If no questions are asked before 9:30 PM EST, that will be the start time for this debate.



Can we use Supreme court rulings?
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Sergei!
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Ugh, once again I am on the wrong set of the tracks lol

Typical communist.



They always told me that Animal Farm was about Communism, but the more I got into it, the more it reminded me of Capitalism. Any kind of system that's overbearing really.
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You've never seen pure capitalism. What passes for capitalism on this planet is a mutant beast.
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Ugh, once again I am on the wrong set of the tracks lol

Typical communist.



bahahaha 😉

I am pro for censorship Judge, how can I not be a communist? 😛

Do not bring my country into this, you're already this close from a coordinated vampire attack

*juggles garlic cloves* 😛
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see this is where being a foreigner works in everyone disadvantage. we are immune to that shit but it helps us a lot when people bring it up in every movie 😄

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So no law can be used. Can we still use empirical evidence to support our claims?



Does the empirical evidence need to be supported by a study? and not just "it is because I saw it or thought it."
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What you describe is anecdotal evidence. It is admissible on the condition it is not sourced from a single individual. "This is proof because I say so" is not an acceptable argument.
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I have a question Marquis de Goat...

Is your muscle-man "Sergei" hot?

Hot-tempered, yes. Very loyal. Good man. Vodka and eggs for breakfast.



Sooo...if I like blurt out OVERRULED! or OBJECTION! or any other court/law related jargon past 9:30pm NYC time I'll get to sit out and chill with Sergei? Or must one specifically quote a law a la Wiki?

Please clarify, Sir.
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You would need to try harder than that. *whacks crab on the shell with gavel*
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What were the odds of two vampires on one team? 😄



I guess good.
I thought they liked to hangout together and all that jazzy stuff.



Yeah, and trade mirrors for presents. lol.
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After all they have to have someone they can bond with that won't die off after a 100 years.
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I have a question Marquis de Goat...

Is your muscle-man "Sergei" hot?

Hot-tempered, yes. Very loyal. Good man. Vodka and eggs for breakfast.



Sooo...if I like blurt out OVERRULED! or OBJECTION! or any other court/law related jargon past 9:30pm NYC time I'll get to sit out and chill with Sergei? Or must one specifically quote a law a la Wiki?

Please clarify, Sir.

You would need to try harder than that. *whacks crab on the shell with gavel*
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keep your violent al capone ways out of this, judge.
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What were the odds of two vampires on one team? 😄



I guess good.
I thought they liked to hangout together and all that jazzy stuff.



Yeah, and trade mirrors for presents. lol.



After all they have to have someone they can bond with that won't die off after a 100 years.
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Can you image getting in a relationship with someone and never getting out of it? not even death can save you?

*shudders*

I'm sure no vampire was an aqua
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Posted by SteveW
So no law can be used. Can we still use empirical evidence to support our claims?



Does the empirical evidence need to be supported by a study? and not just "it is because I saw it or thought it."



Let me reword that.

If God said there should be no censorship, the actual quote from the bible needs to be posted?
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Chapter and verse with bible version. That god said so would not be an acceptable argument, either, because the various faiths all believe themselves to praise the one true god.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Posted by Damnata
What were the odds of two vampires on one team? 😄



I guess good.
I thought they liked to hangout together and all that jazzy stuff.



Yeah, and trade mirrors for presents. lol.



After all they have to have someone they can bond with that won't die off after a 100 years.



Can you image getting in a relationship with someone and never getting out of it? not even death can save you?

*shudders*

I'm sure no vampire was an aqua
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I'm not your average Aquarius
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Can we use rules set in place by Schools, Churches, Libraries?

Schools are moot because they deal with children. Ignore them. As for the others, sure, as long as they do not derive their authority from law.



I know it's pas 9:30pm but I'm going to assume that Universities to not fall under the "minor" category
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The 9:30 thing was just in case no one asked any questions. As long you keep asking, we'll keep not starting.

That assumption is correct.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Posted by Damnata
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Posted by Damnata
What were the odds of two vampires on one team? 😄



I guess good.
I thought they liked to hangout together and all that jazzy stuff.



Yeah, and trade mirrors for presents. lol.



After all they have to have someone they can bond with that won't die off after a 100 years.



Can you image getting in a relationship with someone and never getting out of it? not even death can save you?

*shudders*

I'm sure no vampire was an aqua



I'm not your average Aquarius



*pretends she forgot Mr Nacho is a Sheet now*

I object! You cannot claim Vampire heritage unless you are Romanian.

Is that good enough, Judge?
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Overruled. Reeducation denied.
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Can there be varying degrees of being for or against the subject of this debate?

No.

Why not?



Astrobyn

This person looks very suspicious right now..

Has no history of ever posting on DXP...LOL

Not being rude...just suspicious 🙂
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Trust me it's nobody in the debate.
She used to be Robyn808
Ask anyone whose been here long enough on dxp and they know who she is and they have seen her face. I know it's her because I'm talking to her right now as we speak.
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