If you were very old, widowed, lonely and sick...

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Posted by SirHorns
If I can't do anything, no reason I should be left alive.
I'd want to die rather than live like that till my body gives out.

As for pain.
Tie up loose ends.
Then die as well.
My mission in life should be over at that point, hence I'm not needed.



Same here. Though part of me would irrationally wonder if there is real entity that would condemn one to eternal hell/suffering for taking one's own life.

It sucks being agnostic, haha. There is no such thing as a safe bet.
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That's usually not something a person has to worry about because perspective changes with age/health.

By the time you become grandparents, you've already started to disconnect deep feelings with objects, so really - material possessions become meaningless .... and daily experiences with people morph into actual realities of your life rather than hopes that outer stimuli will provide life for you to participate it.

Once you get older and your family/friends/associates start dying .... you will understand that this is a mute question, how you feel about death at a healthy 20 isn't even close to the same reality as a sick 60 year old

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Posted by munchkin
Say you had no family (or if they forgot all about you), your spouse was already dead, and you were in pain or immobilized, would you contemplate suicide?

Or would you hang on until you passed away? What would influence your decision?



Hell no.

If I was in pain, I would ask them to up the pain meds.


I am amazed at how the elderly are being devalued more and more every day (not your fault, m-kin-- it's been in the works for ages).


Go watch Fried Green Tomatoes!


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Posted by munchkin
Say you had no family (or if they forgot all about you), your spouse was already dead, and you were in pain or immobilized, would you contemplate suicide?

Or would you hang on until you passed away? What would influence your decision?



After teens, the highest rate of suicide occurs in males in the 70's and up. And they kill themselves because they have no purpose, no connection to the world, no reason to get out of bed. As noted, pain, sickness, immobility, loneliness, etc all play a part. Older males really do get cut off, and isolated. We simply don't have the tools to "network," and probably lack the interest. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but really, most of you are just plain god awful boring.

As a sidebar, there are indeed "painless" ways to commit suicide. The most obvious would be a pile of pills and a good bottle of booze. Sort of hit and miss, though. If you do even a small amount of research on the subject though, you will discover easy, effective, and painless ways to off yourself.
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Posted by DonAmanMarat
I'd lay aside all my material wishes and devote myself to God.
I will abstain from a considerable time from my study of Classic Literature and plunge deeply into the Bible, under the impulse of a bishop here in my local church, then teach in University.
Then I will start my ascetic penance at desert somewhere in the Middle East.
I will study, write and take a jab at learning Hebrew under the guidance of a Orthodox Jew.
I will get in touch with the Jewish Christians and take into translating of the Hebrew Gospels.
Soon afterward, I will go to Europe to pursue a study of the scriptures.
Attach myself to the Pope and leading Christians.
Join the governing council, and will look impose a Holy War on all who oppress Christians in the Middle East.
I will undertake the revision of the Latin Bible, and update the psalms as I see fit.
I will surround myself with well-educated men and women from all over the world.
Lead them to a ascetic life style , of course there will be more...but mourning will be out of the question.
I will become a spiritual adviser to all pilgrims who come visit Jerusalem, Galilee, Bethlehem and Egypt.
I will go live in Bethlehem, where I will lead the life of a spiritual guide and teacher.
I will get back at the literature studies, increase my book collection and probably write my own book.
Of course there will hard, harsh times in the way...(be on the run, imprisonment, and threatened to be killed as all the past authors of our time.)
But I take pride in fact that I will die and be buried in Bethlehem, and hopefully transferred to a Basilica in Rome.
No Suicide...ride to the end of my very days!



Rock and roll.

But it's more likely that you'll go down (or up) in a blaze of glory.

Literally.

Or something else equally barbaric.


But what a way to go. 😄
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Posted by dofacc
^^^I would have to argue that you have no idea what it is to be old, sick, lame, full of pain and misery. This is the list of a young man with lots of time and energy, not an old man succumbing to the inevitable.



And I would argue that one's attitude plays a major role.

Old, sick and lame does not automatically = full of pain and misery.

But if one has made up his mind that it does... it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy.