Media Impact on Our Minds: Fact or Fiction?

I'm a believer in art imitating life. Music/Films often express the overall opinions and attitudes of the times.

60??s - Freedom fighting, Equality
70??s - Free love and Drugs
80??s - Money, Coke & Power
90??s - Fades, basically a waste of time

I feel music has gotten much better nowadays... the messages are more heartfelt. Films as well. There seems to be an increase in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Exploring beyond but there is also Zombie mania. A friend of mine (Pisces) has a zombie emergency kit. I'm talking guns, knives, rope etc and he is not joking around.

My friend??s child got some strange virus. He was given antibiotics and had an EXTREME allergic reaction to it. After seeing an allergist and doing many tests... turns out that the virus itself is what caused his reaction to the drugs that were given to cure him. It is a mutated Super Bug.

I broke out in hives this week. I'm obviously more stressed than my rational mind is computing. Every night I??ve had horrible nightmares where my subconscious is playing out what my conscious mind doesn't want to acknowledge. I talked to a girlfriend about it and she told me she has been waking up every night crying for the last week. wtf?

I work with kids and know 3 cases of children breaking out in unexplainable rashes within the last month.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2227880/The-lonely-legacy-Sex-And-The-City-life style -Claudia-Connell-gives-painfully-honest-account-came-living-middle-age.html

DJ posted this article on another thread and it had me shaking my head... which kinda formulated these thoughts and got me wondering...

How much of an impact or influence do you think media/entertainment/art has on our subconscious?

Discuss...

I did my first studies in Marketing & Advertising but a long time ago. How to sell people things they don't want/need but only desire. Also instilling fear... then providing a solution/answer to that perceived fear. I couldn't continue in that field basically cause of how easy it was to do it.

I watched a couple of these documentaries "The Century of the Self". Very enlightening.

What do you mean by social engineers?

Posted by BalmyTigress

And I'm certainly not worried about a zombie uprising.

Nor am I...

However the premise of zombies is usually a virus or infection that gets into the human system and mutates. Isn't that what Super Bugs are?

Uh, the 1980's were a lot more than "money, coke and power." That's a pretty terrible relegation.

How about National restoration and kid-power?

I am hardly a sociologist, but even I know that America did a great return to love of Country during this time in terms of music, film and general pop culture. During this turbulent decade of terrorism and communism, America rose above these sordid ideologies in key areas of national economics, military defense and international support. This was crystal clear with the movies and music of that particular decade. Ever hear "Coming To America" by Neil Diamond? How about "Born in the USA" by Bruce Springsteen? "Living in America" by James Brown? "R-O-C-K in the USA," "Kids in America," etc... There was a great sense of pride in the music scene, as was also the case in the movies. Ever hear of "Top Gun," "Invasion USA", "Glory," "Rocky IV," "Heartbreak Ridge," etc? Do you even know what the Live Aid effort was?

I'm not American, Scorpio fish. Those are all pretty pro-American examples

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Posted by shellshocker

Posted by BalmyTigress

And I'm certainly not worried about a zombie uprising.

Nor am I...

However the premise of zombies is usually a virus or infection that gets into the human system and mutates. Isn't that what Super Bugs are?

No. Things like MRSA exist mainly because people take antibiotics to every little sneeze they get, and the bacteria gets resistant to the medication that we have. That's still quite a long way from a virus that would turn people into zombies. I'm more concerned about people metaphorically turning into zombies, constantly spaced out and never really present.

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The children I am referring to range from the age of 1 year to 4 years old. So these kids haven't been on any heavy doses of antibiotics, in fact they have never taken any before. That's why the one child had to go through so many tests.

I'm not saying that zombies are around the corner. I am saying that the premise of these movies subconsciously/consciously puts the idea in the watcher's minds of mutating viruses.

@ScorpioFish... The kid power movies did have an impact on the consumerism in the fact that it made children seem smarter than their parents. Meaning kids could have buying/decision making abilities within the family unit. Which many, many children have today.

I think art should always imitate life. But the way out there/supernatural shows are good too. Plus when those supernatural shows are written good enough you can strip them down and see that they too imitate life in a unique way.

Posted by AfternoonDelights22
I think art should always imitate life. But the way out there/supernatural shows are good too. Plus when those supernatural shows are written good enough you can strip them down and see that they too imitate life in a unique way.

yes, i agree

Posted by shellshocker
The children I am referring to range from the age of 1 year to 4 years old. So these kids haven't been on any heavy doses of antibiotics, in fact they have never taken any before. That's why the one child had to go through so many tests.

I'm not saying that zombies are around the corner. I am saying that the premise of these movies subconsciously/consciously puts the idea in the watcher's minds of mutating viruses.

Right, like the media/entertainment industry is "preparing" people for this possibility-- that what you mean?

And maybe it's different where you live, but kids ages 1-4 are frequently given, if not over-loaded, on antibiotics-- some to the point that they develop thrush-- it's ridiculous.

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Posted by shellshocker

The children I am referring to range from the age of 1 year to 4 years old. So these kids haven't been on any heavy doses of antibiotics, in fact they have never taken any before. That's why the one child had to go through so many tests.

Yes, I get that, but it's the bacteria strain that has become immune to antibiotics because people in general use way too much antibiotics. So it's resistant to the medication that we have. Also, on top of that we now have these "kills 99.9% " of bacteria type of products that we use to make our environment bacteria free, which means that our bodies don't get exposed to bacteria and we don't build up resistance to it. And our diets are poor. So we have a weak immune system and the bacteria is building it's immunity towards our medication. We've done it to ourselves though out of sheer stupidity, so that's just how things go.

Viruses are a different thing. When we're talking about "super bugs" it's about bacteria like MRSA.

So build a healthy body and immune system and you have a better chance of survival when you come in contact with viruses and bacteria.

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I completely agree with you...

They have antibacterial dispensers in schools, hospital, public office buildings etc. People use them all the time thinking it is beneficial to them in the long run when it is completely the opposite. Soap and water kills germs, while these products kill all bacteria... even the good ones. The companies that make/distribute these antibacterial products made a ton of money... but at what cost?

What happens now that we have weakened immune systems and are becoming resistant to medications?

Turns out I have Shingles. There is no cure, same virus that causes chicken pox. It stays dorment in the body. Many more cases are appearing in 30+ people because the vaccinations they were given as children didn't allow kids to experience the disease, survive it and build a resistance.

He sure had a list of meds I could take. For what? I asked him. Pretty much pain killers and stuff to soothe my mind... more than my body. After a long conversation with him... he then suggested rest and an increase of vitamin B,C & E.

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Posted by shellshocker
The children I am referring to range from the age of 1 year to 4 years old. So these kids haven't been on any heavy doses of antibiotics, in fact they have never taken any before. That's why the one child had to go through so many tests.

I'm not saying that zombies are around the corner. I am saying that the premise of these movies subconsciously/consciously puts the idea in the watcher's minds of mutating viruses.

Right, like the media/entertainment industry is "preparing" people for this possibility-- that what you mean?

And maybe it's different where you live, but kids ages 1-4 are frequently given, if not over-loaded, on antibiotics-- some to the point that they develop thrush-- it's ridiculous.

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yes, that's exactly what I mean. If we are becoming immune to medications there is going to be an increase in health issues. Isn't that one of the main issues in American politics right now? That's a reality.

Zombies are the extreme worst, possible imagined outcome. Not realistic... but it is still a fear that is being watched over and over. I should check out how many zombie movies/shows have been produced in the last 5 years compared to 10 years ago. Hmmm....

According to Wikipedia:

1932 - 2002: There were 253 zombie movies made (60 years)

2003 - 2013: There were 414 zombie movies made (10 years)

Posted by robyn808
wtf? life imitates art? That's not art! Its media is a way to make people feel like they are not good enough, to envy others, and buy more shit, control the masses. blah blah blah (enter anti social rant here)

I don't have the energy to go into this conversation right now, I just thought it was pretty well understood.

Not everything is a fucking conspiracy theory. God venus ruled suns are fucking assclowns about this shit.

Posted by shellshocker
According to Wikipedia:

1932 - 2002: There were 253 zombie movies made (60 years)

2003 - 2013: There were 414 zombie movies made (10 years)

If one thing catches fire its gonna blow up and make as much money as it can.
IE reality shows of the 2000s
IE wrestling of the 90s

There are so many ways to insert a message nowadays... Do they have an App for that? Many different kinds of messages out there as well.

I think reality shows are about voyerism and 'keeping up with the Jones'. Or making you feel better about yourself watching crazy people.
I don't know what the main premis for wrestling was, didn't really watch.

I wonder why people have such a strong response to zombies?

For entertainment.

Posted by AfternoonDelights22
For entertainment.

entertainment/art.... imitating life once it's stripped down?

Posted by shellshocker

Posted by AfternoonDelights22
For entertainment.

entertainment/art.... imitating life once it's stripped down?

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It depends on the show.

Well a supernatural show stripped down can be about different things

A simple as good versus evil.

Zombies shows may be stripped down to be life in an apocalypse.

Two of my favorite supernatural shows Buffy the vampire slayer and Angel the series...when you stripped them down were brilliant shows about the human condition and dynamics.

Posted by tiziani
Wrestling from 97-2001 = GOAT entertainment

Move it to 96-2001 and I concur

Posted by tiziani
Like I actually look at life through WWF tinted glasses to understand people's motivations most of the time. That's life imitating the promoting genius of Vince McMahon to me.

lmao +1

Posted by tiziani
Like I actually look at life through WWF tinted glasses to understand people's motivations most of the time. That's life imitating the promoting genius of Vince McMahon to me.

Different levels of intelligence. Did you read that article about the Sex in the City generation of women? They bought into that life style hook & line.

Would you fall for a financial scam if someone called you and said you can save the president of Ickipoop with a small cash donation? How about a pyramid skeems?

many people have and will continue to do it.

From a consumer standpoint... Sex in the City women are like DINKs (Double Income No Kids) they have a lot of spending power that fuels the economy.
Many movies/songs were made to encourage this life style . Go single, career driven ladies! Who needs a man.

idk, it's all kind of Marketing 101. You find a niche, tap into their desires/fears and exploit them.

Posted by shellshocker
From a consumer standpoint... Sex in the City women are like DINKs (Double Income No Kids) they have a lot of spending power that fuels the economy.
Many movies/songs were made to encourage this life style . Go single, career driven ladies! Who needs a man.

idk, it's all kind of Marketing 101. You find a niche, tap into their desires/fears and exploit them.

Whats wrong with that though? I mean it was an awful show, but people are gonna live the way they want to live

I'm just brain tickling guys... thanks for the discussion! 🙂

There is nothing wrong with it, in my opinion. But I do believe that people are heavily impacted by what media feeds them, whether it be consciously or not. Art is rarely made for the sake of art in music/film. By the musicians and filmmakers maybe... but the larger production companies are looking for a marketable reason to distribute it.

They want to sell a message.

This has been interesting

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Because lets not forget right after sex in the city we got desperate housewives.

Haha, straight to the point!



And now we have the "Real Housewives" haha!

Sex and thr city type feminists will end up as old maids and cat ladies. This crap about not needing a husband and children must seem really hip at 30+ when only divorced men want you, and even then it's a pasing thing. If such feminist horseshit is your destiny, then go eat it. You will end up choking on it, along with a lot of cat hair.

Wow... he completely disarmed the newscaster in the blue dress. She was his bitch (sorry for being so crude but I don't know how else to say it)

Posted by xMoonMan
...what he said about icons and how they are used was very interesting.

Yup, how ironic his name is "Brand"

That media chick is a cunt!!!! All of them wishy washy, full of shit, time wasters....why do I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people say they can't see this!? why are there people like that on TV?....are they are trying to emulate young clicky school groups or trying to be like those reality chick shows like the hills or desperate housewives of hollywood or something...Why does the world need to cater to the youth as a way of controlling the young consumers of the future and in turn generate more money!? It used to be kids wanting to be adults now its adults wanting to be kids...Everything you watch on TV is trying to extort and bend your minds...TV is a babysitter and its pathetic....speaking of I heard theres a show called "real nannies of beverly hills" go figure.

I think Russel Brand is a new age angel or disciple sent by god that is relevant with the times, same goes with Tim Minchin and they are using the media to send their messages....well Brand is, Tim is using the theatre he is currently touring in jesus christ superstar and he wrote the music for Matilda which is witty, relevant and is now hopefully sparking revolts in young minds.

I was looking up pictures of them on google and noticed the hair style s they have its kinda straight at the front and teased and has lots of volume at the back it looks like those pictures of saints you see with halos around their heads because when the light is behind them it pretty much lights up their hair LOL and they are both air signs! gemini and libra....now all we need is an aquarian jesus!! lol

people think the world was going to end in 2012 it only started the wheels moving, Brazil, Turkey, Papua new guinea are all sparking up in revolt against their governments we need people like russell and minchin to help us against the brainwashing of our government, god knows we need it.