Public humiliation or justice?

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by enfant_terrible on Thursday, April 17, 2014 and has 11 replies.

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What law school did the judge graduate from one can't help but wonder, because this is a fucking travesty of justice! Didn't know public humiliation was still a part of the legal system in the States? It is 2014 after all.


Another Ohio incident. Really? "Idiot"??

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Posted by feby16aqua
Judges are human beings just like the rest of us. That being said, anyone who drives on the fucking sidewalk around a bus is an idiot.


Not in any legal terms! C'mon now, don't get cute...

We both know you won't find the term in any law books I'm sure, not the way it was intended here.
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Idk I feel like this is really straddles the line of unconstitutional?

He does not have the right to deface someones property, and should be faced some retribution for doing so. But he does have a right to his own beliefs, I think this is calling into question what is free speech when you are court ordered to communicate something you don't believe.
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It's totally irrelevant what he did. That's not the issue I'm addressing here. And I don't feel sorry for him either, but there are bigger issues at stake-- such as where the law system is heading with this shit? But I realize this thread will be taken over by self-important reactionaries who fail to see the big picture.

Sometimes I'm surprised that we even have a legal system in a democratic society since obviousely most people seem to be against ethical treatment of human beings, even if they ARE assholes.
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I fail to see how concentrating years of verbal abuse into 5 hours of wearing a sign is "an eye for an eye", smartass. How about getting down to real business instead of jerking around with last century punishment/humiliation methods. What's next, hundreds petty criminals sitting around town wearing signs? It's bordering science fiction.

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Posted by enfant_terrible
It's totally irrelevant what he did. That's not the issue I'm addressing here. And I don't feel sorry for him either, but there are bigger issues at stake-- such as where the law system is heading with this shit? But I realize this thread will be taken over by self-important reactionaries who fail to see the big picture.

Sometimes I'm surprised that we even have a legal system in a democratic society since obviousely most people seem to be against ethical treatment of human beings, even if they ARE assholes.



I agree with you.

Although it isn't so much about the "unethical" treatment in the same sense as you mean (I think)--

I think it's unethical because if he *did* deface their property, and if he *did* harass them, then I believe there are already laws on the books regarding those offenses, along with the min/max penalties for breaking them (punitive damages, etc).

I don't believe "public humiliation" is one of them.


This judge is abusing her position, imo.


+1
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Cruel and unusual punishment?

LO fuckin L!

Tell that to his disabled neighbor he terrorized for 15 years.

Poor baby. He sits cozily on his ass with a sign in Bumfuck, OH for a few hours, which few people probably saw, much less read.

At least our tax dollars isn't wasted having him fart around in a jail cell.

He got off much too easy. If I were the judge, he'd be forced to be confined to a wheelchair *with* the sign on the back of it...for a month at least.

If this is considered legally unacceptable, then it's the judicial code that needs to change.
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Posted by SanchoMuyTerrible
Posted by munchkin
Cruel and unusual punishment?

LO fuckin L!

Tell that to his disabled neighbor he terrorized for 15 years.

Poor baby. He sits cozily on his ass with a sign in Bumfuck, OH for a few hours, which few people probably saw, much less read.

At least our tax dollars isn't wasted having him fart around in a jail cell.

He got off much too easy. If I were the judge, he'd be forced to be confined to a wheelchair *with* the sign on the back of it...for a month at least.

If this is considered legally unacceptable, then it's the judicial code that needs to change.



You wont be saying that when a judge sentences you to a similar degree after you rack up all those tickets from your reckless Asian woman driving. Which is something I wanted to mention to you because yet again another incident I experienced yesterday. smh!
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smh indeed! You probably saw my mother. She actually obeys the highway speed limits...always. 😐
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Cruel and unusual or unethical punishment would have been bamboo shoots under the fingernails for every year of douchebaggery. Or allowing the parents of the endangered students to beat the driver with wiffle ball bats for an hour. But spending a few hours sitting on their bum holding a sign?

Pfft. I got worse punishments for not cleaning my room growing up.

The only reason to feel embarrassment is the realization that their actions were wrong in the first place and that they should feel shame for such buttery behavior. While the judges in question probably should have stuck with sentencing precedents already on the books, these particular punishments are relatively lightweight in comparison to jail time and appear to be saving the tax payers money in the process. Mountains shouldn't be made out of molehills.