Ron Paul 2012

If you really are as patriotic as you think you are, you'll vote Ron Paul.

Oh, and for everyone saying that Ron Paul is "un-american" because of his foreign policy stance..tsk. I'm a combat veteran and I fully support him.

Bump

Lmao

You want a real change to save the US from its self destruction?? GET RID OF AIPAC! They are the group who are in control of both Capitol Hill and the White House.

Americans proved many times in the past (since Eisenhower) that they are sheeples, so why bother who is the next president anyway..!

Bump! And, fuck the haters 🙂

I love everything about this thread.

I will vote when politics stops being a career. So there is your answer.

Posted by aquaj
rofl @ the Yankee attack on Norwegian values and political leanings. Riiiight. Because everyone in the world needs to BUY their benefits from for-profit agencies that don't truly give a fuck about your health, so that we may ALL die earlier like the Americans do.

Who cares what y'all do! Our country was founded differently than yours and government limitations have always been important. To have or not have health care is an issue of liberty and it will remain a problem here. Is what it is!

I do think its interesting that so many people from other countries get all pissy because they feel Americans are ignorant/arrogant, but perhaps this thread reveals something different?

Posted by aliennation
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fuck that's creepy, remove that...

On topic--

Ron Paul's got my vote, and I've voted for him every time. Of course, I wonder what % of people prefer him the most, but don't vote for him because they think "he'd never win anyway." >_>

I wonder if people truly understand how their lives would change if he was in office. Maybe some people are just angry and don't know what they are actually voting for? The idea of a radically smaller government is "alien" to people these days and I guess I just wonder if we all know what that really looks like.

Posted by Qbone
Lmao

You want a real change to save the US from its self destruction?? GET RID OF AIPAC! They are the group who are in control of both Capitol Hill and the White House.

Americans proved many times in the past (since Eisenhower) that they are sheeples, so why bother who is the next president anyway..!

Ideally, we wouldn't have anything to do with Israel or any other middle eastern country. Outside of trade and war, each their own.

Posted by Sag89
I will vote when politics stops being a career. So there is your answer.

Then you'll never vote 😢

Posted by cowpuncher

Posted by Sag89
I will vote when politics stops being a career. So there is your answer.

Originally our Legislatures at the State and Federal level were all part-time only, specifically to keep them from having the time to pull the stunts they pull today, and to avoid the "professional politician." I think that was a great idea we should return to.

Part of that idea was that the politicians would still have to make their living some other way, with a business, a farm, whatever... and would therefore have to go out into the real world and live with the laws they were creating. Fast forward to today, and we have professional politicians like Nancy Pelosi getting away with Insider Trading, because they have made a loophole allowing that for members of Congress.

That law must apply to everybody equally.

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There is nothing wrong with them being full-time but, term limits need to be capped at two terms and lobbying should not be protected under the first amendment. Doing these things would solve soooo many problems.

Posted by aliennation

Posted by cowpuncher

Posted by Sag89
I will vote when politics stops being a career. So there is your answer.

Originally our Legislatures at the State and Federal level were all part-time only, specifically to keep them from having the time to pull the stunts they pull today, and to avoid the "professional politician." I think that was a great idea we should return to.

Part of that idea was that the politicians would still have to make their living some other way, with a business, a farm, whatever... and would therefore have to go out into the real world and live with the laws they were creating. Fast forward to today, and we have professional politicians like Nancy Pelosi getting away with Insider Trading, because they have made a loophole allowing that for members of Congress.

That law must apply to everybody equally.

I think that not only should it be made a part-time pursuit, holding another job should be a *requirement*. Otherwise, you'll get these trust fund babies who now simply have more time to go golfing.

Of course, I'm not naive enough to believe that loopholes won't be systematically exploited. I can see a whole new "industry" crop up - the "jobs" solely intended to fulfill that requirement, for politicians, by politicians or anyone whom the politicians turn around and give kickbacks to, to avoid actually working while still being on payroll.

Now I'm getting into conspiracyville, but at the very least, part-time hours would force politicians to be more efficient with their time, or at least waste it at fewer of the taxpayers' dimes...

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Yea I agree because overall it was suppose to be a service job that went completely out of hand. Now it attracts raging sociopaths that like to piss on one another for show and give the middle finger to everyone.

Posted by Awakened

Posted by Sag89
I will vote when politics stops being a career. So there is your answer.

Then you'll never vote 😢

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Probably true