
To all you people that sugarcoat people. You are worse than the ones asking for help.



Posted by starloverYou think I am socially impaired?Posted by 037+1
When people need help, it means they usually have some kind of trouble/pain/distress. They don't need an additional dose of harshness or insensitivity to add to that.
Unless, you the person dishing the so-called reality, are afraid of humanness yourself.
And also, your advice is not necessarily what they need. Its rather pompous of you to think you have all the answers.
I think it is known as *social skills*
Never to late to learn 😛click to expand

Posted by KoniuchaI have learned that the second you say "Awe sweetie" the rest of what you say is ignored. Straight to the point is the best policy.
There is always a kinder way to put things.
Its something like, always be kind to others, you don't know what struggle they are going through.
If your life is great, be thankful.


Posted by liya-bYup.
Imo, sugarcoating generally is dangerous, I don't think letting them be complacent by saying their life will naturally get better is actually helping. You should say, "your life is shit right now but here's advice on how to turn shit around". Beating around the bush doesn't help, actual assistance does. I've been depressed before (during saturn in scorp, yikes) but I could not stand people telling me "oh it's okay, you'll get better with time", it took my friend offering to spend some time with me that made things better not some nice platitudes about seeing the bright side of life.
A lot of people are negative or take a "woe is me" approach in life because they need attention, their life isn't necessarily shitty but they feel lonely and I think loneliness causes the most hurt and delusion in people.

Posted by starloverLol. Should be easy to figure out. Loud, obnoxious, arrogant and hidden love.Posted by HappygoluckyRoom for improvement RamPosted by starloverYou think I am socially impaired?Posted by 037+1
When people need help, it means they usually have some kind of trouble/pain/distress. They don't need an additional dose of harshness or insensitivity to add to that.
Unless, you the person dishing the so-called reality, are afraid of humanness yourself.
And also, your advice is not necessarily what they need. Its rather pompous of you to think you have all the answers.
I think it is known as *social skills*
Never to late to learn 😛
Where is your ascendent?click to expand

Posted by starlover* it is in .......*
...all you have to say is
*it is in .........*
Aries, maybe?

Posted by MsFiskDING DING DING
Should be easy to figure out. Loud, obnoxious, arrogant and hidden love.
leo

Posted by 037Or they could be a complete twat so you're just factually stating they are being a shit cunt.
When people need help, it means they usually have some kind of trouble/pain/distress. They don't need an additional dose of harshness or insensitivity to add to that.
Unless, you the person dishing the so-called reality, are afraid of humanness yourself.
And also, your advice is not necessarily what they need. Its rather pompous of you to think you have all the answers.


Posted by SoulLOL. There are weaknesses in the strongest of men. Even the great Achilles had a weakness. I control every word that comes from my mouth. The fact that I am blunt is a choice I make and in no way is a sign of weakness. I do not say rude things out of retaliation or fear of rejection. I say them out of love, that is not weak. Love is the hardest emotion to project, therefore takes the most courage and strength to express. You can say that I am being blunt because I am weak and insecure. You would be wrong.
It's all about having some tact on how you speak to people. Speak tough to those who are strong minded, and soft to those who are touchy.
I think bluntness is a form of weakness. It means you can't control the urge to be tough and seem superior then everyone. Some of the worse and most useless people in life are the ones who are blunt about everything.

Posted by SoulI think you have never been a leader in your life. Aren't you a Leo? Catering to individuals and giving them "ear candy" is crippling them.
It's all about having some tact on how you speak to people. Speak tough to those who are strong minded, and soft to those who are touchy.
I think bluntness is a form of weakness. It means you can't control the urge to be tough and seem superior then everyone. Some of the worse and most useless people in life are the ones who are blunt about everything.

Posted by SoulI disagree. Bluntness is about treating everyone equally and going straight to the point. Beating around the bush is a huge lack of productivity and leads to condescension because you think the other doesn't have what it takes to not take it personally. Bluntness isn't the problem, it's the truth that hurts.
I think bluntness is a form of weakness. It means you can't control the urge to be tough and seem superior then everyone. Some of the worse and most useless people in life are the ones who are blunt about everything.

Posted by blackphaseThey go on the defensive because THEY are weak. NOT me. Bluntness is equality. Plain and simple. To not be blunt and straight up is a form of deception.Posted by liya-bThat's assuming that it IS the truth. Some are just rude for the sake of being rude. If you are actually trying to help someone sure blunt may work.. but carefully choose your words. I have often times seen the "blunt" ones say that they think they get through to people better because they are giving it to them straight and not sugarcoating shit.. but if you pay attention to the responses that come from those blunt msgs, you'll see that it only causes people to get defensive.. they are not listening to a word you've said because they are on the defense now.Posted by SoulI disagree. Bluntness is about treating everyone equally and going straight to the point. Beating around the bush is a huge lack of productivity and leads to condescension because you think the other doesn't have what it takes to not take it personally. Bluntness isn't the problem, it's the truth that hurts.
I think bluntness is a form of weakness. It means you can't control the urge to be tough and seem superior then everyone. Some of the worse and most useless people in life are the ones who are blunt about everything.click to expand

Posted by RabbitHAHA! Rabbit found the hole! Bluntness totally cuts out all the validation, woe is me and unnecessary sympathy.
Except 95% of the posters here aren't looking for answers.
They are looking for validation.
They already decided their POV before they post. They just want someone to tell them they're right.

Posted by blackphaseI agree.Posted by liya-bThat's assuming that it IS the truth. Some are just rude for the sake of being rude. If you are actually trying to help someone sure blunt may work.. but carefully choose your words. I have often times seen the "blunt" ones say that they think they get through to people better because they are giving it to them straight and not sugarcoating shit.. but if you pay attention to the responses that come from those blunt msgs, you'll see that it only causes people to get defensive.. they are not listening to a word you've said because they are on the defense now.Posted by SoulI disagree. Bluntness is about treating everyone equally and going straight to the point. Beating around the bush is a huge lack of productivity and leads to condescension because you think the other doesn't have what it takes to not take it personally. Bluntness isn't the problem, it's the truth that hurts.
I think bluntness is a form of weakness. It means you can't control the urge to be tough and seem superior then everyone. Some of the worse and most useless people in life are the ones who are blunt about everything.click to expand

Posted by febyBalance is a beautiful thing.
You can tell someone how it is and give them that good lightning bolt but not be a dick about it. There is a fine line. Being a loose cannon is an extreme, just as is sugar-coating everything.
damn libra aries axis always trying for balance!


Posted by blackphaseThere's definitely a difference between being blunt and downright rude and offensive. To me being blunt isn't about pushing them further down but simply explaining a situation and its options without the emotional value which is usually why the person is being down in the first place. Pushing an emotion-filled response onto someone already overwhelmed with those is what bugs me but I truly believe that you can be compassionate and honest at the same time.Posted by liya-bThat's assuming that it IS the truth. Some are just rude for the sake of being rude. If you are actually trying to help someone sure blunt may work.. but carefully choose your words. I have often times seen the "blunt" ones say that they think they get through to people better because they are giving it to them straight and not sugarcoating shit.. but if you pay attention to the responses that come from those blunt msgs, you'll see that it only causes people to get defensive.. they are not listening to a word you've said because they are on the defense now.Posted by SoulI disagree. Bluntness is about treating everyone equally and going straight to the point. Beating around the bush is a huge lack of productivity and leads to condescension because you think the other doesn't have what it takes to not take it personally. Bluntness isn't the problem, it's the truth that hurts.
I think bluntness is a form of weakness. It means you can't control the urge to be tough and seem superior then everyone. Some of the worse and most useless people in life are the ones who are blunt about everything.click to expand

Posted by febyI have it too. Aries Sun and Lib Moon.
You can tell someone how it is and give them that good lightning bolt but not be a dick about it. There is a fine line. Being a loose cannon is an extreme, just as is sugar-coating everything.
damn libra aries axis always trying for balance!




Posted by febyBecause I do not care about an "audience". I speak to one person on here at a time. Group settings in real life are different. If you are offended by my words then something is hitting home for you. Otherwise you would totally dismiss my post.Posted by HappygoluckyI have a libra moon as well. I'm a big fan of fire suns for just what you are describing: speaking the truth. I also find the loose cannon bits endearing for some unknown reason to me. I think it's the omg the audacity thing.Posted by febyI have it too. Aries Sun and Lib Moon.
You can tell someone how it is and give them that good lightning bolt but not be a dick about it. There is a fine line. Being a loose cannon is an extreme, just as is sugar-coating everything.
damn libra aries axis always trying for balance!
Who is being a lose cannon? A libra will naturally see me as a dick. A leo will at least listen to what I have to say.
In the same way for myself personally, I like the balance. With that being said, I'm just wondering why you wouldn't want to capture your entire audience? There is a way, even with a libra, to get your point across without sugarcoating. It's that balance. Unless you don't really care...and that's something else lol.
Btw the leo might think you're a dick too. They're pretty crafty at letting you know only what you need to know 😛click to expand

Posted by RabbitDon't lie bro. You still hit it. It's ok, I've been there too in desperate times. Shit happens.Posted by HappygoluckyI always find the hole.Posted by RabbitHAHA! Rabbit found the hole! Bluntness totally cuts out all the validation, woe is me and unnecessary sympathy.
Except 95% of the posters here aren't looking for answers.
They are looking for validation.
They already decided their POV before they post. They just want someone to tell them they're right.
Except this one time. We won't discuss that. I wasn't proud of bringing her home.click to expand

Posted by munchykinLOL. Point proven. You are defensive already and nobody was talking to you. Something hit home.
Being blunt and rude only puts people on the defense. It makes them want to oppose whatever you're saying.
So it's pointless unless you're wanting to pick a fight with the poster or stir up a bunch of negative energy for fun.

Posted by blackphaseI just wrote you can't go wrong will keeping your mouth shut, now you want me to open it?Posted by SoulI vote that little voice! :3
This is why I love dxp. I have wrote and copied somthing and that would completely change the entire outcome of this thread, and now I get to decide what I want to do. Do I listen to the little voice, or do I turn around and let it be?click to expand

Posted by RabbitMore like 99%
Except 95% of the posters here aren't looking for answers.
They are looking for validation.
They already decided their POV before they post. They just want someone to tell them they're right.

Posted by febyI'm playing with my food no matter which path I take lol!Posted by SoulLOL sneaky leo. Just spill it don't play with your food 😛
This is why I love dxp. I have wrote and copied somthing and that would completely change the entire outcome of this thread, and now I get to decide what I want to do. Do I listen to the little voice, or do I turn around and let it be?click to expand

Posted by febyI was just letting the Libra know I understood what she was saying. 🙂Posted by HappygoluckyYep that's what I was saying before. ok thenPosted by febyBecause I do not care about an "audience". I speak to one person on here at a time. Group settings in real life are different. If you are offended by my words then something is hitting home for you. Otherwise you would totally dismiss my post.Posted by HappygoluckyI have a libra moon as well. I'm a big fan of fire suns for just what you are describing: speaking the truth. I also find the loose cannon bits endearing for some unknown reason to me. I think it's the omg the audacity thing.Posted by febyI have it too. Aries Sun and Lib Moon.
You can tell someone how it is and give them that good lightning bolt but not be a dick about it. There is a fine line. Being a loose cannon is an extreme, just as is sugar-coating everything.
damn libra aries axis always trying for balance!
Who is being a lose cannon? A libra will naturally see me as a dick. A leo will at least listen to what I have to say.
In the same way for myself personally, I like the balance. With that being said, I'm just wondering why you wouldn't want to capture your entire audience? There is a way, even with a libra, to get your point across without sugarcoating. It's that balance. Unless you don't really care...and that's something else lol.
Btw the leo might think you're a dick too. They're pretty crafty at letting you know only what you need to know 😛click to expand

Posted by munchykinOf course I do. I'm not an idiot.Posted by HappygoluckyWhat exactly is defensive about this?Posted by munchykinLOL. Point proven. You are defensive already and nobody was talking to you. Something hit home.
Being blunt and rude only puts people on the defense. It makes them want to oppose whatever you're saying.
So it's pointless unless you're wanting to pick a fight with the poster or stir up a bunch of negative energy for fun.
Also, you do remember starting this thread in a public forum, right?click to expand

Posted by KoniuchaThe statement about being blunt and its pointless unless wanting to pick a fight. Its defensive! Insinuating that blunt people want conflict.Posted by blackphaseYes, explain what was defensive.Posted by HappygoluckyThere was nothing defensive said there..Posted by munchykinLOL. Point proven. You are defensive already and nobody was talking to you. Something hit home.
Being blunt and rude only puts people on the defense. It makes them want to oppose whatever you're saying.
So it's pointless unless you're wanting to pick a fight with the poster or stir up a bunch of negative energy for fun.click to expand

Posted by blackphaseLook deeper. Insinuating that being blunt is offensive.
Insinuating something is not considered being defensive I didn't think :/

Posted by RabbitEvery Christmas it happens in my house bro.
Is it acceptable to sugar coat, say...BACON....with a nice brown sugar glaze?

Posted by blackphaseThis right here is crap. 1 person says it and it could be a fluke. 7 people say it and that should be plenty of confirmation. I mean for fucks sake, the Prez don't even need that much confirmation to see the light in much more complex situations.
We are not saying that is it ALWAYS offensive, some people need and appreciate your bluntness, what we are saying is that sometimes you need to step back and realize that some need to her it a little softer around the edges. And generally we know who those people are.. All it takes is one comment to see how they react. So to have five or six others come in and just repeat what one person already did to get someone all worked up is pointless.

Posted by munchykinThis whole freaking thread is semantics. Use your noodle and stop being defensive (yes, you are being defensive).Posted by HappygoluckyYou're reading far too much into it, and I'm not interested in nitpicking semantics.Posted by KoniuchaThe statement about being blunt and its pointless unless wanting to pick a fight. Its defensive! Insinuating that blunt people want conflict.Posted by blackphaseYes, explain what was defensive.Posted by HappygoluckyThere was nothing defensive said there..Posted by munchykinLOL. Point proven. You are defensive already and nobody was talking to you. Something hit home.
Being blunt and rude only puts people on the defense. It makes them want to oppose whatever you're saying.
So it's pointless unless you're wanting to pick a fight with the poster or stir up a bunch of negative energy for fun.click to expand

Posted by blackphaseWhen the 7th person says the same shit the others are saying then it might be time to say "ok, ok. these peeps might have a point and what am I not seeing that they are" It never happens that way because of ego and arrogance. Rabbit is right, they don't want to hear the truth. So, sometimes you need a "shock" factor or a "wake the fuck up" call.Posted by HappygoluckyThis seems contradicting.. Because that is essentially what I am saying.. They don't need to hear it more than once. One round of harsh words is more than enough when you can see them getting upset and defensive.. it's only poking the bull if others chime in on it once they see that a negative reaction is all that will come of their "bluntness".Posted by blackphaseThis right here is crap. 1 person says it and it could be a fluke. 7 people say it and that should be plenty of confirmation. I mean for fucks sake, the Prez don't even need that much confirmation to see the light in much more complex situations.
We are not saying that is it ALWAYS offensive, some people need and appreciate your bluntness, what we are saying is that sometimes you need to step back and realize that some need to her it a little softer around the edges. And generally we know who those people are.. All it takes is one comment to see how they react. So to have five or six others come in and just repeat what one person already did to get someone all worked up is pointless.click to expand

Posted by HappygoluckyFlipping on the damn tv isn't enough?Posted by blackphaseWhen the 7th person says the same shit the others are saying then it might be time to say "ok, ok. these peeps might have a point and what am I not seeing that they are" It never happens that way because of ego and arrogance. Rabbit is right, they don't want to hear the truth. So, sometimes you need a "shock" factor or a "wake the fuck up" call.Posted by HappygoluckyThis seems contradicting.. Because that is essentially what I am saying.. They don't need to hear it more than once. One round of harsh words is more than enough when you can see them getting upset and defensive.. it's only poking the bull if others chime in on it once they see that a negative reaction is all that will come of their "bluntness".Posted by blackphaseThis right here is crap. 1 person says it and it could be a fluke. 7 people say it and that should be plenty of confirmation. I mean for fucks sake, the Prez don't even need that much confirmation to see the light in much more complex situations.
We are not saying that is it ALWAYS offensive, some people need and appreciate your bluntness, what we are saying is that sometimes you need to step back and realize that some need to her it a little softer around the edges. And generally we know who those people are.. All it takes is one comment to see how they react. So to have five or six others come in and just repeat what one person already did to get someone all worked up is pointless.click to expand

The user who posted this message has hidden it.Then you choose to be blind and deflective. No harm in that if you want to deny reality and be dumb.


Posted by SoulI bet I have a lot more fun than you do boss. I vacation every month.
It's not being dumb, it's having fun.
Balance and moderation is key to a good life.
You could use some tips from your opposite.

Posted by blackphaseSo, I word the same message a different way and now you agree with me. JEEZ.Posted by HappygoluckyI totally understand what you are saying here and agree, but if they are falling under the category of just being stubborn and not wanting to hear the truth there is not much that can be said to them anyways.. so waste of breath. However.. not everyone falls into that category.Posted by blackphaseWhen the 7th person says the same shit the others are saying then it might be time to say "ok, ok. these peeps might have a point and what am I not seeing that they are" It never happens that way because of ego and arrogance. Rabbit is right, they don't want to hear the truth. So, sometimes you need a "shock" factor or a "wake the fuck up" call.Posted by HappygoluckyThis seems contradicting.. Because that is essentially what I am saying.. They don't need to hear it more than once. One round of harsh words is more than enough when you can see them getting upset and defensive.. it's only poking the bull if others chime in on it once they see that a negative reaction is all that will come of their "bluntness".Posted by blackphaseThis right here is crap. 1 person says it and it could be a fluke. 7 people say it and that should be plenty of confirmation. I mean for fucks sake, the Prez don't even need that much confirmation to see the light in much more complex situations.
We are not saying that is it ALWAYS offensive, some people need and appreciate your bluntness, what we are saying is that sometimes you need to step back and realize that some need to her it a little softer around the edges. And generally we know who those people are.. All it takes is one comment to see how they react. So to have five or six others come in and just repeat what one person already did to get someone all worked up is pointless.click to expand

Posted by febyYou are learning young JEDI.
I have heard that if two people who don't know each other tell you the same thing...it's something to consider.

Posted by HappygoluckyWell good for you! Getting out is great isn't it?Posted by SoulI bet I have a lot more fun than you do boss. I vacation every month.
It's not being dumb, it's having fun.
Balance and moderation is key to a good life.
You could use some tips from your opposite.click to expand

Posted by blackphaseI'm not "one upping" anyone. Just stating that I have fun and vacation every month. It's a luxury I have worked very hard for and now I am reaping the rewards. ALOT OF FUN.Posted by HappygoluckyVacation does not equal fun for everyone.. Everyone has fun in their own way on different terms.Posted by SoulI bet I have a lot more fun than you do boss. I vacation every month.
It's not being dumb, it's having fun.
Balance and moderation is key to a good life.
You could use some tips from your opposite.
And Soul is supposed to be the Leo here.. Lol.. Why do you feel the need to one up everyone huh?click to expand

Posted by starloverHAHA! If I was related to DJ I might just kill over and die from the shock.Posted by HappygoluckyAre you Don Johnson"s twin brother?Posted by SoulI bet I have a lot more fun than you do boss. I vacation every month.
It's not being dumb, it's having fun.
Balance and moderation is key to a good life.
You could use some tips from your opposite.click to expand

Posted by blackphaseThat is not true. Do you have kids?Posted by HappygoluckyNo, i have always agreed with that part of it. The ones that don't want to hear the truth can't be helped anyway.. but it is a waste of all your wisdom to even spell it out for them at that point.Posted by blackphaseSo, I word the same message a different way and now you agree with me. JEEZ.Posted by HappygoluckyI totally understand what you are saying here and agree, but if they are falling under the category of just being stubborn and not wanting to hear the truth there is not much that can be said to them anyways.. so waste of breath. However.. not everyone falls into that category.Posted by blackphaseWhen the 7th person says the same shit the others are saying then it might be time to say "ok, ok. these peeps might have a point and what am I not seeing that they are" It never happens that way because of ego and arrogance. Rabbit is right, they don't want to hear the truth. So, sometimes you need a "shock" factor or a "wake the fuck up" call.Posted by HappygoluckyThis seems contradicting.. Because that is essentially what I am saying.. They don't need to hear it more than once. One round of harsh words is more than enough when you can see them getting upset and defensive.. it's only poking the bull if others chime in on it once they see that a negative reaction is all that will come of their "bluntness".Posted by blackphaseThis right here is crap. 1 person says it and it could be a fluke. 7 people say it and that should be plenty of confirmation. I mean for fucks sake, the Prez don't even need that much confirmation to see the light in much more complex situations.
We are not saying that is it ALWAYS offensive, some people need and appreciate your bluntness, what we are saying is that sometimes you need to step back and realize that some need to her it a little softer around the edges. And generally we know who those people are.. All it takes is one comment to see how they react. So to have five or six others come in and just repeat what one person already did to get someone all worked up is pointless.click to expand

Posted by HappygoluckyYou seem to have a happy life.Posted by blackphaseI'm not "one upping" anyone. Just stating that I have fun and vacation every month. It's a luxury I have worked very hard for and now I am reaping the rewards. ALOT OF FUN.Posted by HappygoluckyVacation does not equal fun for everyone.. Everyone has fun in their own way on different terms.Posted by SoulI bet I have a lot more fun than you do boss. I vacation every month.
It's not being dumb, it's having fun.
Balance and moderation is key to a good life.
You could use some tips from your opposite.
And Soul is supposed to be the Leo here.. Lol.. Why do you feel the need to one up everyone huh?click to expand

Posted by SoulLiving a healthy life is what life is all about. OK, you have never been a boss man so this is where my logic comes into play. Sometimes you have that stubborn employee that constantly shows up to work late (they are at every work environment). You have supervisors who are all easy going and laid back and never give them a reality check. Just fire them for their laziness. Then you have the supervisor who gets on that ass and straightens them out. Someone who is FIRM and STRONG and wakes them up from their laziness. The employee who never got reality checked will go to his next job and DO THE EXACT SAME SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN. Why? Because nobody taught him to respect himself or his work ethics. Same with raising children.Posted by HappygoluckyWell good for you! Getting out is great isn't it?Posted by SoulI bet I have a lot more fun than you do boss. I vacation every month.
It's not being dumb, it's having fun.
Balance and moderation is key to a good life.
You could use some tips from your opposite.
I have fun every day just from going to work. I actually love my job. But no, I don't take a vacation every month. That's ok though I'm still thankful for the life I have.
I'm not a boss either lol. I'm flattered of the thought, but my boss is actually a great person. Very kind, wise, and giving.click to expand
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