@DAMEN VI
16 Years1,000+ Posts
America has been involved in War 93% of the time
lol
Its funny how the year 2000 was actually one of the years we weren't involved in a major conflict..we all know what happened the following year thou,smh..
Yes .... there must be justification for all the spending, because seriously, the First Lady needs a vacation.
So far, she has spent over 7.9 million dollars and vacationing. The Apsen trip cost the taxpayers roughly 7,700.00 per hour.
A date night for the Obamas cost $ 11,648.00 - that's ONE evening.
So, yeah, you and all the other ignorant people have to find a way to distract people from the truth.
I think you're funny. And all people like you. What can a person really do around ignorants?
You have to just laugh at them
Posted by P-AngelYes .... there must be justification for all the spending, because seriously, the First Lady needs a vacation.
So far, she has spent over 7.9 million dollars and vacationing. The Apsen trip cost the taxpayers roughly 7,700.00 per hour.
A date night for the Obamas cost $ 11,648.00 - that's ONE evening.
So, yeah, you and all the other ignorant people have to find a way to distract people from the truth.
I think you're funny. And all people like you. What can a person really do around ignorants?
You have to just laugh at them
Did you see how much laura bush spent? Lmaoooooo
You're the only one who's ignorant...
I'm surprised a violence influenced individual like yourself isn't proud America takes place in most wars . Coming from a person living an all out war inside your own mind you should be happy we fuck everyone and everything up.
In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:
"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
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Copied from another website, but food for thought.
France rejoined MATO in 2009.
MATO=NATO
Posted by Soul
I'm surprised a violence influenced individual like yourself isn't proud America takes place in most wars . Coming from a person living an all out war inside your own mind you should be happy we fuck everyone and everything up.
you tried to kill yourself thou,lol, so who's really fighting the mental war?
Fuck outta here loser
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
**************Copied from another website, but food for thought.
France rejoined MATO in 2009.
France wanted to be independent..whats wrong with that? should've said fukk'em and let'em deal with whatever situation they have on their own
Posted by Finbuff
Posted by DAMEN VI
Posted by Soul
I'm surprised a violence influenced individual like yourself isn't proud America takes place in most wars . Coming from a person living an all out war inside your own mind you should be happy we fuck everyone and everything up.
you tried to kill yourself thou,lol, so who's really fighting the mental war?
Fuck outta here loser
Well Soul did have a point, and a rather large one, as it appears he/she struck a nerve?
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He didn't make any points,mof he didn't even make sense
I dont like violence just as much as i dont like injustice..but I do believe in eye for an eye..and violence is the onlything america seems to understand, so thats why i enjoy seeing cops & innocent whites get killed after one of my people get killed by one of your people..simple
Posted by DAMEN VI
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
**************Copied from another website, but food for thought.
France rejoined MATO in 2009.
France wanted to be independent..whats wrong with that? should've said fukk'em and let'em deal with whatever situation they have on their own
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Unintentionally or not, you missed the point.
Posted by Finbuff
Posted by DAMEN VI
Posted by Finbuff
Posted by DAMEN VI
Posted by Soul
I'm surprised a violence influenced individual like yourself isn't proud America takes place in most wars . Coming from a person living an all out war inside your own mind you should be happy we fuck everyone and everything up.
you tried to kill yourself thou,lol, so who's really fighting the mental war?
Fuck outta here loser
Well Soul did have a point, and a rather large one, as it appears he/she struck a nerve?
He didn't make any points,mof he didn't even make sense
I dont like violence just as much as i dont like injustice..but I do believe in eye for an eye..and violence is the onlything america seems to understand, so thats why i enjoy seeing cops & innocent whites get killed after one of my people get killed by one of your people..simple
You are just a sick, racist man. My IQ drops just engaging you, so I am done. Just have to figure out how to use IGNORE feature for 1st time.
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the reality i speak of is too dark for your always bright n sunny fantasy land,mr multi millionaire, lol, so yea, i understand your frustration
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Posted by DAMEN VI
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
**************Copied from another website, but food for thought.
France rejoined MATO in 2009.
France wanted to be independent..whats wrong with that? should've said fukk'em and let'em deal with whatever situation they have on their own
Unintentionally or not, you missed the point.
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Well what point were you trying to make
Well when you think about the purpose of war its manipulating. It only to destroy another country value so that you can buy their land for penny on the dollars so basically it is saving already rich people money because even they want to be cheap. They also want to be able to come into that country and diminish the people's values and hope to fight for what was or still can be it is meant to weaken the spiritual and mental capacity.
Lmao@ strong military serving as a deterrence
Well if it was, then why the fukk are we continuing to fight so many wars?
and did you know that between 85 - 90% of casualties of wars are civilians? so imagine if someone from another country came over here, who was trying to "help us", dropped a bomb on your families home, killing your mother,father,etc..who you say "oh well, they were trying to help us, so i can't be to upset at them"? Or would you hate that country and want them to gtfo of here?
and why are you worried about china & russia? they haven't spent nowhere near as much as we have on military..plus we got nukes, so what else do we need?
^^^ police brutality & racism didn't start a couple years ago, sugar
Posted by Blood ft. Water
Posted by DAMEN VI
Lmao@ strong military serving as a deterrenceWell if it was, then why the fukk are we continuing to fight so many wars?
and did you know that between 85 - 90% of casualties of wars are civilians? so imagine if someone from another country came over here, who was trying to "help us", dropped a bomb on your families home, killing your mother,father,etc..who you say "oh well, they were trying to help us, so i can't be to upset at them"? Or would you hate that country and want them to gtfo of here?
and why are you worried about china & russia? they haven't spent nowhere near as much as we have on military..plus we got nukes, so what else do we need?
In this case our solution is to dispatch military from Iraq, Syria and stop trying to rebuild shitty third world countries like Somalia.
Defunding military, and not investing in new technology, and not keeping the military updated is stupidity.
If you want to be a coward hippy then move to Canada with all other coward hippies.
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we spend dam near 3x as much as china..so do you really think ww3 would commence if the u.s defunded the military by 100-200 billion & instead use that money to help build OUR economy?
Posted by Sugarfoot
Posted by DAMEN VI
-222Well it all makes sense when you realize who is really running this country. The U.S government is owned by the Federal Reserve. The gov is so deeply indebted to them that they have no choice but to be under its control. It's profitable for the people who truly control this country (and thus the gov) to be in war. War is the U.S's way of establishing control and dominance over the worlds resources and creating more of an empire for the small international few who are the puppet masters behind everything our gov decides to do.
The U.S has instigated the events behind every war we've ever been in. If you do your research and look at actual physical evidence instead of just listening to the stories we're fed, you'll see for yourself the truth behind that statement.
-They purposefully led the Lusitania to being sunk ----> U.S entry into WWI
-They provoked Japan into bombing pearl harbor and had knowledge of the plans 2-3 days before and did nothing to stop it----> entry into WWII
-911 was an inside job. Eyewitness from first responders and people on the ground level plus all of the physical evidence proves it ---> war on terror --->Patriot actThe war on terror was real stroke of genius because it's a war that can go on forever and never been won. It's a war that can take place anywhere at anytime. It's an awesome way to gain access to oil reserves and whatever resources they want any place they want any time they want. All they have to do is create fear of terrorists to justify the continuation of this war on terror and fight for freedom. ISIS probably isn't even real. Ever notice how so many of them are American and British? lolz
We're not in danger of terrorists. We're in danger of our own government who was meant to protect us.
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I know this & agree..
Thats why i laugh when the people who defend this with " they're fighting for freedom"..like freedom doesn't come with a price tag..America isn't helping anyone without some type of monetary gain
A better picture of US spending is this:
This is the US budget by percentage for 2014.
In Australia we've been throwing peop,e out of parliament for spending our money 🙂
Posted by theDomino
And the yanks have lost the majority of these wars. At least they aren't as bad as the Russian; God, their track record is absolute shit.
Two stalemates, four defeats from this list (history didn't just start in 1990):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
**************Copied from another website, but food for thought.
France rejoined MATO in 2009.
That's perfectly wicked! 😈
And to think I have a tendency to consider LBJ a milquetoast... lol
I'm glad I'm Canadian
This argument has turned generic.
Posted by theDomino
I find it rather hilarious that the Americans describe "Low-intensity conflict" as full-fledge war. Sorry, but the English language applies to all English states.
so how many people gotta die before its considered a war?
America even went to war with Haiti..and this what U.S. Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler had to say about it:
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
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..Now you look @ Hati today and it's damn near in ruins..but if you let certain Americans tell the story, they'll say it's because Haitians made a deal with the devil to defeat the french back in the 1700's, smh
Posted by Blood ft. Water
Its interesting how whenever Republicans step back and admit Iraq War was a mistake Democrats respond by dramatically stepping forward to increase military spending...Lol...But unfortunately they have people convinced otherwise.54% increase in defense spending from 2006 to 2014.
Oh...and notice the outcry when Defense Department wants to cut spending or reduce costs...if its effecting a Democrat district.
looks more like its been going down actually..
and you also have republicans like jeb bush claiming that Democrats are responsible for swift & mindless cuts to defense spending..so which one is it?
Posted by cilantro
This is actually an interesting thread. Granted I just woke up and its 2:48am.A couple of thoughts. The OP makes a great point in that, we spend a lot of money on defense, eventually the cost benefit analysis is going to favor conflict of some sort. The Iraq war being a prime example. That is an example of an epic stumble, even most Republicans at this point will admit it was a mistake. But I think of it beyond partisan terms. If you step back, u see a country that is more or less going through an identity crises. Again, all this defense and what to do with it. Do I think its a bad thing? Not necessarily. If America retreats into itself, another country will come in and fill in the vacuum. It could be China, Russia is weakened, but perhaps they could fill it in. Ideally, we would like all the countries to mind their own business and get along but that is not very realistic. Someone will always push their self interest.
the point I'm working towards is, America needs to admit to itself that it is Empire. .
I don't disagree with this.
Where the "imperialist" moniker falls flat IMHO is with respect to what was done after.
Iraq, for instance. Dumb? One could argue that. If the US truly was imperialist, it would have stayed and pumped oil solely for its own interest, either for use or sell to compensate for war expenditures. Instead, foreign corporations were allowed to bid on rebuilding the infrastructure and the US got nothing.
Post WW2, the US stayed long enough to rebuild the infrastructure in defeated Germany and Japan and left them to their own affairs once the US was sure they wouldn't become belligerent again. Only one European country paid back their debt (Lichtenstein I believe). Contrast that to the Eastern European countries behind the Iron Curtain-many of them sat under the yoke of Soviet dominance for 70 years.
Really both parties outwardly disagree with each other for the public, but behind close doors they work together, so fukk both sides honestly
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
In 1966 upon being told that President Charles DeGaulle had taken France out of NATO and that all U.S. troops must be evacuated off of French soil President Lyndon Johnson mentioned to Secretary of State Dean Rusk that he should ask DeGaulle about the Americans buried in France. Dean implied in his answer that that DeGaulle should not really be asked that in the meeting at which point President Johnson then told Secretary of State Dean Rusk:"Ask him about the cemeteries Dean!"
That made it into a Presidential Order so he had to ask President DeGaulle.
So at end of the meeting Dean did ask DeGaulle if his order to remove all U.S. troops from French soil also included the 60,000+ soldiers buried in France from World War I and World War II.
DeGaulle, embarrassed, got up and left and never answered.
**************Copied from another website, but food for thought.
France rejoined MATO in 2009.
That's perfectly wicked! 😈
And to think I have a tendency to consider LBJ a milquetoast... lol
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Actually, there are some biographies out there that show LBJ to be a real SOB.
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-222 years out of 239 years - since 1776..meaning we've only had 17 years of peace..lol
fact: as long as we continue to fund our military with over 600 billion dollars annually, then we will ALWAYS start and/or get involved in war with someone,period...
Lol @ "fighting for freedom"...more like fighting to justify all this damn spending..