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Eating cows helps prevent them from eating all the plant life! You vegetarians should be thanking meat eaters. Duh educate yourself.

You guys are too serious. Who cares what people eat?

I think his point was that people who eat veggies and such are eating life too, while meat eaters give more balance by eating animals that eat all the vegetation.

Lets say we don't eat animals, just fruit and veggies and such. Well that's what most animals eat too. We will run out and then we will all die all because you can restore a little balance and keep the food chain going.

Just eat it. It's for the greater good

I think it's also truly and completely ridiculous to care how we farm animals that are going to be slaughtered anyway. Does it make it taste better if that chicken led a happy life? No. Who cares. You wanna care about life?? Help some kids in poverty. Give your mercy to something that understands it. Where it might actually make a difference.

Today I learned about beaver pee in ice cream. 😆

I love dxp

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Posted by MayDay31
I think it's also truly and completely ridiculous to care how we farm animals that are going to be slaughtered anyway. Does it make it taste better if that chicken led a happy life? No. Who cares. You wanna care about life?? Help some kids in poverty. Give your mercy to something that understands it. Where it might actually make a difference.

Actually there are people that would make the argument that cage free chickens do taste better than chickens that are commercially raised.

Let's take two chickens, one that's raised commercially and locked up in cage in the dark sitting on top of one another and not able to move it's legs or stand up, defecating on one another being fed parts of other chickens (high stress environment).

The other one is a free range chicken that's able to roam about, eating bugs and grass or whatever they eat and being able to shit wherever... you know the basic simple things that every living creature should be able to do (stress free environment)

Which will taste better?

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Idk, never tried that experiment. You could be right but if they are going to die anyway... is it really worth getting all worked up about? Not saying that you are, but generally speaking.

And if you cook it right, prolly tastes good either way. I never have had free range food so idgaf I'm not paying twice as much to eat a chicken that lived a better life that is just silly to me

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Posted by MayDay31
You guys are too serious. Who cares what people eat?

I think his point was that people who eat veggies and such are eating life too, while meat eaters give more balance by eating animals that eat all the vegetation.

Lets say we don't eat animals, just fruit and veggies and such. Well that's what most animals eat too. We will run out and then we will all die all because you can restore a little balance and keep the food chain going.

Just eat it. It's for the greater good

Whose point are you referring to?

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I was referring to carlos mencias point from the clip I posted

proving capinc's point from before lol

god damn you slow interwebs and dxp

Posted by Rabbit
Humans that are free to run around taste better too.

Are they naked or clothed?

Well not everyone can afford to eat organic free range hormone free food. Hate to break it to you guys, but some people actually have to stretch their dollars.

Shit all this time I thought I was getting the good meat cuz I only buy meat from giant eagle vs save a lot and aldis. Lol

Oh well, if I never taste the good stuff then I wont know what I'm missing

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Posted by Montgomery

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Posted by Montgomery
The truth is that if factory farms were eliminated and local farmers/humane production became the

norm-- you would destroy them, too.

I never said that I would destroy anything and I'm not against eating meat. When I was eating meat I did make the switch to local farm raised product. I agree this is a good way of getting these larger factories to change however there's far more ignorant consumers than there ones that aware that will continue In their ways to save a few dollars.

Thank you. 🙂

I appreciate that.

However, KittylaRouge will not address this-- which tells me I'm probably right, where she is concerned.


As for the "far more ignorant consumers"-- I don't think Kitty's campaign of violence will do

anything to increase their knowledge.

If anything, it makes the factory farms look like the victims-- esp in light of some of the fallout

from their (ALF) adventures.

NO social justice movement has been won without a mixture of non-violent protest AND direct action.
animal liberation is a social justice movement. alf actions do not target humans but systems of abuse, torture and exploitation.

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So?

You STILL won't address what I said regarding factory farms.

The post can be found in its entirety, here: http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/post.asp?id=5028089<BR>

To reiterate:

... if factory farms were eliminated and local farmers/humane production became the

norm-- you would destroy them, too.

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Posted by MayDay31

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Posted by MayDay31
I think it's also truly and completely ridiculous to care how we farm animals that are going to be slaughtered anyway. Does it make it taste better if that chicken led a happy life? No. Who cares. You wanna care about life?? Help some kids in poverty. Give your mercy to something that understands it. Where it might actually make a difference.

Actually there are people that would make the argument that cage free chickens do taste better than chickens that are commercially raised.

Let's take two chickens, one that's raised commercially and locked up in cage in the dark sitting on top of one another and not able to move it's legs or stand up, defecating on one another being fed parts of other chickens (high stress environment).

The other one is a free range chicken that's able to roam about, eating bugs and grass or whatever they eat and being able to shit wherever... you know the basic simple things that every living creature should be able to do (stress free environment)

Which will taste better?

Idk, never tried that experiment. You could be right but if they are going to die anyway... is it really worth getting all worked up about? Not saying that you are, but generally speaking.

And if you cook it right, prolly tastes good either way. I never have had free range food so idgaf I'm not paying twice as much to eat a chicken that lived a better life that is just silly to me

Well you've basically proved my point.

What if spending a couple extra dollars on the second chicken provided more health benefits than chicken number one?

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Well, if you don't worry about food budget too much, yea no problem. When you think that in reality it's more than a couple extra dollars dude.. you spend more and get less. Yes, I know quality is better than quantity. BUT not every one has that luxury. That is just the way it is.

If it was more affordable to be healthy in this countr

Posted by MayDay31
Idk, never tried that experiment. You could be right but if they are going to die anyway... is it really worth getting all worked up about? Not saying that you are, but generally speaking.

And if you cook it right, prolly tastes good either way. I never have had free range food so idgaf I'm not paying twice as much to eat a chicken that lived a better life that is just silly to me

It does taste better if it's done right.

Really.

It isn't THAT much more expensive, either.

And yeah, it *does* matter.

However, religious loons like LaRouge make simple ethics looks like fanaticism.

But that's what fanatics do.

If it was more affordable in this country, a lot more people would follow suit. And we probably would have less illness and obesity.

Idk dude. I'm just trying to get by.

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Posted by MayDay31
Well not everyone can afford to eat organic free range hormone free food. Hate to break it to you guys, but some people actually have to stretch their dollars.

Shit all this time I thought I was getting the good meat cuz I only buy meat from giant eagle vs save a lot and aldis. Lol

Oh well, if I never taste the good stuff then I wont know what I'm missing

LOL @ Giant Eagle.

In Elyria there's a Giant Eagle and a Dick's in the same plaza.

The sign out front says "Giant Eagle Dicks"

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Love the Midwest.

Curious. Which country would that be.

Posted by Rabbit
I'm married to a Virgo, so we have detailed food budget records.

Ever since cutting back on meat purchases and only buying from the butcher shop, we've spent basically the same amount per week.

It's difficult however, to change the line of thinking that meals MUST have meat as the primary focus for anyone living in the middle part of the country. It's just far too ingrained in the culture. I know. I've had to change myself.

Yea probably this too. Meh. I'll keep frying up my giant eagle chicken breasts 🙂

Damn they don't have giant eagle's everywhere? Thought it was like Walmart.

Yea it's a grocery store. The cheap ones are save a lot, then aldis, now they have good cents. Ever been.to.a good cents rabbit? They have good meat, it's like a cheaper giant eagle. Of course to you fancy fucks it's not good meat. But I guess it's like the middle class of grocery around here

Hey I ranked aldis above save a lot. Idk, I just don't really shop there that often. I'm ok with generics on most things, it usually taste the same. Not everything. And I don't really like aldis freezer section.

I need to go grocery shopping!!!

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Posted by Rabbit
There's a belief that eating a diet with less meat and more veg is more expensive, but it's really not.

+1

Yeah those damn green juices I make cost a fortune and it's all veggies.

What do you put in them?

Spinach
Ginger
Kale
Lemon
Celery or cucumber
Parsley

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+1 i do kimberly snyders glowing green smoothie every day

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by MayDay31
Idk, never tried that experiment. You could be right but if they are going to die anyway... is it really worth getting all worked up about? Not saying that you are, but generally speaking.

And if you cook it right, prolly tastes good either way. I never have had free range food so idgaf I'm not paying twice as much to eat a chicken that lived a better life that is just silly to me

It does taste better if it's done right.

Really.

It isn't THAT much more expensive, either.

And yeah, it *does* matter.

However, religious loons like LaRouge make simple ethics looks like fanaticism.

But that's what fanatics do.

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ha! that's RICH! malcomX, benjamin franklin, dr. martin luther king jr, Jesus, ghandi, Thomas Paine were all considered CRAZY, FANANTICS, NUTS, how dare you want to free black people, equality, WTF? over our dead bodies! women voting are you kidding? unchaining the slaves, are you kidding? hell, dr. martin luther king was killed for a being a "radical" of social change! malcom x had no problem with violence. and we all know what they did to Jesus for his "radical beliefs", Christian or not, it's historically documented.

social movements require radical thought and change and if not society just trudges along, status quo.
Animals are inhabitants of this planet just as we are and deserve our respect and protection. I faith that there will be a radical shift in cosmic consciousness albeit slowly.

*have faith

i meant abraham lincoln.

Posted by KittenLaRouge

Posted by Montgomery
It does taste better if it's done right.

Really.

It isn't THAT much more expensive, either.

And yeah, it *does* matter.

However, religious loons like LaRouge make simple ethics looks like fanaticism.

But that's what fanatics do.

ha! that's RICH! malcomX, benjamin franklin, dr. martin luther king jr, Jesus, ghandi, Thomas Paine were all considered CRAZY, FANANTICS, NUTS, how dare you want to free black people, equality, WTF? over our dead bodies! women voting are you kidding? unchaining the slaves, are you kidding? hell, dr. martin luther king was killed for a being a "radical" of social change! malcom x had no problem with violence. and we all know what they did to Jesus for his "radical beliefs", Christian or not, it's historically documented.

social movements require radical thought and change and if not society just trudges along, status quo.
Animals are inhabitants of this planet just as we are and deserve our respect and protection. I faith that there will be a radical shift in cosmic consciousness albeit slowly.

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😆

I knew it was only a matter of time before you compared yourself to Jesus.


You can't even address my post on factory farms v local.

Again, the post can be found in its entirety, here: http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/post.asp?id=5028089<BR>

To reiterate:

... if factory farms were eliminated and local farmers/humane production became the

norm-- you would destroy them, too.


Because you're a militant, religious fanatic.

Compare myself to jesus? Wtf? Lmao! Anyway, there is no such thing as humane killing. I agree that should meat eating end in a perfect world that farmers must be given jobs and sustainable income for their families that doesnt involve killing. And why do u keel saying religious? Like where does religion come into.play when one is against animal abuse. It's completely illogical.

Jesus was a radical, the animal liberation movement is lacking in radicals everyone wants to be so pc. Ya were upset but we dont want to be inconvenienced.

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Posted by munchkin
The self-righteousness and hypocrisy here is astounding. People calling others murderers for eating animal products, when most every damn modern commodity you enjoy came at the expense of harming the environment.

We all leave a footprint, don't pretend you're above that.

And not everyone has the luxury to live on a diverse diet of organic veggies, quinoa and exotic fruit supplemented by vegan source omega 3 oil and B vitamins.

Sorry that offends you.

Bullshit. Giant excuse.

Congratulations! With your hollow, dismissive response, you have completely undone your eco footprint and solved poverty. Now we can be (hybrid) limousine liberals like you!

Aren't you proud of yourself?

and keep filling your body with the remains of abused tortured animals so that your body can continue to be a wasteland of karmic sewage and death.

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Because you shit roses and rosaries, right?

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Posted by Montgomery

Posted by MayDay31
Idk, never tried that experiment. You could be right but if they are going to die anyway... is it really worth getting all worked up about? Not saying that you are, but generally speaking.

And if you cook it right, prolly tastes good either way. I never have had free range food so idgaf I'm not paying twice as much to eat a chicken that lived a better life that is just silly to me

It does taste better if it's done right.

Really.

It isn't THAT much more expensive, either.

And yeah, it *does* matter.

However, religious loons like LaRouge make simple ethics looks like fanaticism.

But that's what fanatics do.

ha! that's RICH! malcomX, benjamin franklin, dr. martin luther king jr, Jesus, ghandi, Thomas Paine were all considered CRAZY, FANANTICS, NUTS, how dare you want to free black people, equality, WTF? over our dead bodies! women voting are you kidding? unchaining the slaves, are you kidding? hell, dr. martin luther king was killed for a being a "radical" of social change! malcom x had no problem with violence. and we all know what they did to Jesus for his "radical beliefs", Christian or not, it's historically documented.

social movements require radical thought and change and if not society just trudges along, status quo.
Animals are inhabitants of this planet just as we are and deserve our respect and protection. I faith that there will be a radical shift in cosmic consciousness albeit slowly.

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Don't even try to compare yourself to any of those people. You aren't worthy of it with your pathetic beliefs that everyone who eats meat are murderers. None of those people who brought great change wouldn't be so kind to someone who is so ignorant of others beliefs to the point of calling them murderers. I assure most of those you named off up there ate meat with the exception of Ghandi. You just insulted MLK and Malcolm X and everyone else with the exception of Ghandi. Because of all of them ate meat. You really are a fucking hypocrite and a dumbass. Fuck your radical thought and change. What are you one of those dumb Marxist Socialists? Go take that shit to China or Cuba and I'm sure they'll appreciate yo

^^^^ ha! i never compared myself to them. i guess your wallmart job isn't teaching you basic reading comprehension skills? you sure do like to follow me around everywhere, i think ill turn you into my little bytch 🙂

Posted by KittenLaRouge
^^^^ ha! i never compared myself to them. i guess your wallmart job isn't teaching you basic reading comprehension skills? you sure do like to follow me around everywhere, i think ill turn you into my little bytch 🙂

Hahahaa. You wish you dumb bitch. You're everyone's bitch Kittenlaho. Now beat it harpie before I shove steak down your throat and make you realize what you've missed. And yeah, your attitude says you are.

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Posted by KittenLaRouge
^^^^ ha! i never compared myself to them. i guess your wallmart job isn't teaching you basic reading comprehension skills? you sure do like to follow me around everywhere, i think ill turn you into my little bytch 🙂

Hahahaa. You wish you dumb bitch. You're everyone's bitch Kittenlaho. Now beat it harpie before I shove steak down your throat and make you realize what you've missed. And yeah, your attitude says you are.

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you can't stay away from me can you? ha! run along now boy, i'm busy 😉

Little Girl take you temper tantrum elsewhere and preach to someone who cares.

Posted by aurora
meat is not healthy these days. it is full of antibiotics, growth hormones, water, and with who knows what. fish and eggs are a good choice.
i'm not a vegetarian but like i'm almost there, unfortunately, cause i like meat. and my body responds well. well i think it does.

As the lifespan of human gets longer, and longer, and longer ............

Posted by starlover
i agree aurora. it depends on your blood group too...A types arent meant to eat meat and more suited to a vegetarian diet where as O+ are supposed to be meat eaters (hunter gatherers). What some people forget to realize though is that O types are meant to work out hard..move the body in an aerobic way, whereas A types are more suited to gentle exercise like yoga. The reason i saw SO MANY overweight people in the States, is probably because they ate lots of fatty meat and sat on their arses too much

exactly. Some people do need meat. My husband is B+ and Russian, and veganism made him feel like crap even though he did everything possible to make sure he got all the nutrients he needed. There may be vegan alternatives for nutritional needs, but the fact is, in some people, some of them are not in a form easily assimilated by their body. I think that was his problem right there.

On the other hand, I'm AB-, and Asian, so I really can't and don't eat animal products except for in trace amounts. I actually thrive on a vegan diet.

yet here this crazy lady op is assuming everyone who disagrees with her accusatory attitude is a fanged carnivore. xD

^ 😆

I think there's something to that theory! My meat-and-potatos Russian can down shot after shot of hard liquor and be totally fine and dandy ,including the next day.

But if I have more than 2 drinks in a single night, I'm hallucinating and stumbling around with a beet red face, and on the brink of death the next morning. x_x

Posted by starlover
i agree aurora. it depends on your blood group too...A types arent meant to eat meat and more suited to a vegetarian diet where as O+ are supposed to be meat eaters (hunter gatherers). What some people forget to realize though is that O types are meant to work out hard..move the body in an aerobic way, whereas A types are more suited to gentle exercise like yoga. The reason i saw SO MANY overweight people in the States, is probably because they ate lots of fatty meat and sat on their arses too much

Very interesting post, star. Thanks for sharing that.

I have O+ blood type and before going veggie my father had dubbed me the most carnivorous person he had ever seen. It was meat, meat, meat, and more red meat all the time, bloody rare preferably.

I definitely have to take care to get enough iron, B vitamins and exercise time or my body isn't happy.