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Frank-Medrano Vegan Fitness Model.. gorgeous

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Posted by starlover
I was in Cornwall years ago (in UK). I was a vegetarian at the time. My bf and i checked into a guest house and chatted to the owner and mentioned to him that we were vegetarians. He said to us *yes i am too, but i eat fish and chicken sometimes*


lol

Smh. Am I a murderer if I only murder every now and then ? A part time murderer if you will? 🙂

I don't think he murdered anything or anyone ~ unless he had his wife chopped up in the freezer maybe?


lol

meat is murder whether you do it or not.

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Do you live in a house? Because if so, you can thank the destruction of the environment and animals' habitat for allowing you the luxury of posting this thread while sprawled out on your sofa.

Posted by KittenLaRouge
... this is NOT a factory farm and extreme confinement of animals. rows of rows of animal who cant even turn around, piled on top of each other for maximum profit. animals are sentient beings they are not machines.

No one is advocating this, either.

You're pretending they do, simply because they eat meat-- even when you've been told otherwise.

I guess your argument would fall apart if you didn't, because you won't even acknowledge these statements.



StopFactoryFarms.org encourages exactly what many of the people here already do-- which is buying

locally from independent butchers and/or grocers who support local, not factory, farms.

............................


"Independent grocery stores generally ... directly support their local community or [go] directly to

the farmers or ranchers producing the food....

It's worth the effort to seek them out and explore their offerings.


Many farmers are already rearing animals more humanely and producing cruelty free meat, milk and eggs.

The demand for higher quality meat is being heard by the local farmer. By supporting them, you can

send a message to the farming industry: factory farming is no longer acceptable...."


Alternatives to Factory Farm Meats


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The truth is that if factory farms were eliminated and local farmers/humane production became the

norm-- you would destroy them, too.

Moles build underground larders that are used for storing their food.

Their food? you ask?

Live earthworms that the mole renders paralyzed by their toxic saliva ..... a single mole will have over a thousand earthworms alive and so crammed into the larder that the worms cannot even move.

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And?

They're entertainers.

Fiona Apple has a looong history of serious eating disorders.

I wonder if this is a good cover for others who are so afflicted.

Famous Vegan Admits She's Suffering From an Eating Disorder


... veganism was not actually nourishing and healthy; it was a full-blown eating disorder known as

"orthorexia," or an obsession with eating righteously.

After feeling miserable for months, she shame-dabbled in pescetarianism, which led to this paragraph,

perhaps the strangest I've read all week:


[...] she went to one of her favorite macrobiotic restaurants and forced herself to order wild

salmon — her first piece of fish in 18 months. "I brought it home and ate it all alone, so no one

could see me," she says. Two days later, her period returned.


[For some reason, I imagine her period showing up haggard at her door with a red hobo bindle and a several days old

beard, exhausted but humbly apologetic. You're home! she says, throwing her arms around his filthy neck. Period can only

cry with gratitude and relief.]

After a dietary change clearly established that veganism was making her feel like crap, she decided to formally announce

her transition from "The Blonde Vegan" to "The Balanced Blonde."

............


omg that's funny. 😄

animals are not machines.

Posted by eight67530nine

I think you missed the point of this thread.

Neither of you have addressed what I said on factory farming and your cause, on the previous page.

Soo... your point is totally open to interpretation.

Posted by eight67530nine
This is the one that always bothers me. Such disregard for life.

Breaks my heart in a million pieces. They are babies. 😢

You know most cosmetic products are tested on animals. Scratch that not only cosmetic products. I'll spare you of the intricate details if you don't know already.

But I will leave a page about it here. I want to take a stab but honestly I cbf. I will just add to the list of stuff people should be aware about.

I dont know where the disconnect is with people. These animals have to be pregnant to procuce milk and animal byproducts. Forced pregnancy, baby calves are severly confined their whole life and taken for veal, eggs are the menstration of chickens male chicks are considered trash. Why cant people see? It's heartbreaking.

Posted by aquasnoz
You know most cosmetic products are tested on animals. Scratch that not only cosmetic products. I'll spare you of the intricate details if you don't know already.

But I will leave a page about it here. I want to take a stab but honestly I cbf. I will just add to the list of stuff people should be aware about.

Animal testing is the blackest crime on the planet. It bothers me WAY more than factory farming. I would have no problem seeing vivisectors killed ond by one.

Posted by DonAmanMarat


Hopefully, this makes you happy.

Animal liberation human liberation is the same struggle. We enslave the animals we enslave ourselves.

Posted by eight67530nine
Give me a break .

What's wrong? Does that sound too much like you?

The self-righteousness and hypocrisy here is astounding. People calling others murderers for eating animal products, when most every damn modern commodity you enjoy came at the expense of harming the environment.

We all leave a footprint, don't pretend you're above that.

And not everyone has the luxury to live on a diverse diet of organic veggies, quinoa and exotic fruit supplemented by vegan source omega 3 oil and B vitamins.

Sorry that offends you.

Posted by eight67530nine

Posted by DonAmanMarat


Hopefully, this makes you happy.

People being held in forced confinement and murdered is equally wrong.

What's your point?

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Exactly. Just a way to direct attention away from the topic

Posted by eight67530nine

Posted by munchkin

Posted by eight67530nine
Give me a break .

What's wrong? Does that sound too much like you?

No I was just imagining what it would feel like to live in a house with a sofa.

Must be nice...

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It must be. I don't have one either. lol

Posted by eight67530nine

Posted by starlover
That pic is horrible, But i buy free range eggs laid by hens living on farms that have freedom and are treated well...dont most people nowadays buy them?

As for cows' milk....we are not meant to drink that....only calves are. Goats milk is much more suitable for human consumption? It is given to babies and children with skin complaints such as eczema ... it actually soothes the system

No I don't have the percentages but I guarantee the majority of Americans don't give a fuck where their food comes from and they're certainly not buying free range eggs.

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+1000

Posted by munchkin
The self-righteousness and hypocrisy here is astounding. People calling others murderers for eating animal products, when most every damn modern commodity you enjoy came at the expense of harming the environment.

We all leave a footprint, don't pretend you're above that.

And not everyone has the luxury to live on a diverse diet of organic veggies, quinoa and exotic fruit supplemented by vegan source omega 3 oil and B vitamins.

Sorry that offends you.

Bullshit. Giant excuse.

Posted by eight67530nine
But I'm really glad there's people that are as passionate about saving other people like I'm passionate about saving animals. There really is hope in this world and god bless.

Lol have a "bless" day 🙂

Posted by DonAmanMarat
Out here...
You will get beaten, raped, murdered and it'd be a miracle if a free range bull came into save your dumbass.

This would explain your myopic world view and your limited circle of compassion.

Posted by KittenLaRouge

Posted by munchkin
The self-righteousness and hypocrisy here is astounding. People calling others murderers for eating animal products, when most every damn modern commodity you enjoy came at the expense of harming the environment.

We all leave a footprint, don't pretend you're above that.

And not everyone has the luxury to live on a diverse diet of organic veggies, quinoa and exotic fruit supplemented by vegan source omega 3 oil and B vitamins.

Sorry that offends you.

Bullshit. Giant excuse.

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Congratulations! With your hollow, dismissive response, you have completely undone your eco footprint and solved poverty. Now we can be (hybrid) limousine liberals like you!

Aren't you proud of yourself?

Posted by DonAmanMarat

Youve used this before. Running out of material.?

Posted by munchkin

Posted by KittenLaRouge

Posted by munchkin
The self-righteousness and hypocrisy here is astounding. People calling others murderers for eating animal products, when most every damn modern commodity you enjoy came at the expense of harming the environment.

We all leave a footprint, don't pretend you're above that.

And not everyone has the luxury to live on a diverse diet of organic veggies, quinoa and exotic fruit supplemented by vegan source omega 3 oil and B vitamins.

Sorry that offends you.

Bullshit. Giant excuse.

Congratulations! With your hollow, dismissive response, you have completely undone your eco footprint and solved poverty. Now we can be (hybrid) limousine liberals like you!

Aren't you proud of yourself?

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and keep filling your body with the remains of abused tortured animals so that your body can continue to be a wasteland of karmic sewage and death.

...You guys do realize that she's just doing this for attention, right?

Posted by TMV



...You guys do realize that she's just doing this for attention, right?

I am indeed rather stoned at this very moment. But shh. It appears I've not verbally berated someone yet which is odd.

Posted by aquasnoz

It appears I've not verbally berated someone yet which is odd.

I'll have my popcorn ready then. 😄

Posted by TMV



...You guys do realize that she's just doing this for attention, right?

Wow you're so cool! Someones boxers are in a bunch that the discussion has deviated away from gay people and glitter. *slow clap*

*Someone's

Posted by KittenLaRouge

Wow you're so cool! Someones boxers are in a bunch that the discussion has deviated away from gay people and glitter. *slow clap*

Nice try but I'm not taking the bait. 😛

Posted by eight67530nine

Posted by Montgomery
The truth is that if factory farms were eliminated and local farmers/humane production became the

norm-- you would destroy them, too.

I never said that I would destroy anything and I'm not against eating meat. When I was eating meat I did make the switch to local farm raised product. I agree this is a good way of getting these larger factories to change however there's far more ignorant consumers than there ones that aware that will continue In their ways to save a few dollars.

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Thank you. 🙂

I appreciate that.

However, KittylaRouge will not address this-- which tells me I'm probably right, where she is concerned.


As for the "far more ignorant consumers"-- I don't think Kitty's campaign of violence will do

anything to increase their knowledge.

If anything, it makes the factory farms look like the victims-- esp in light of some of the fallout

from their (ALF) adventures.

Posted by KittenLaRouge

Ah, I've been meaning to find more glam gifs. Woot!

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by eight67530nine

Posted by Montgomery
The truth is that if factory farms were eliminated and local farmers/humane production became the

norm-- you would destroy them, too.

I never said that I would destroy anything and I'm not against eating meat. When I was eating meat I did make the switch to local farm raised product. I agree this is a good way of getting these larger factories to change however there's far more ignorant consumers than there ones that aware that will continue In their ways to save a few dollars.

Thank you. 🙂

I appreciate that.

However, KittylaRouge will not address this-- which tells me I'm probably right, where she is concerned.


As for the "far more ignorant consumers"-- I don't think Kitty's campaign of violence will do

anything to increase their knowledge.

If anything, it makes the factory farms look like the victims-- esp in light of some of the fallout

from their (ALF) adventures.

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NO social justice movement has been won without a mixture of non-violent protest AND direct action.
animal liberation is a social justice movement. alf actions do not target humans but systems of abuse, torture and exploitation.

Not sure if last comment was joke or misdirection of sorts but here you go Get some vegan beer in ya.

Also this isn't vegan related but I thought it was funny:

4. Vanilla Ice Cream

If you??re a label-reader like me, you may see castoreum listed on vanilla & raspberry ice cream.

Ick factor: What they don't say on the label is that castoreum is the anal secretions & urine from a beaver. While not known to be harmful, knowing there's beaver pee in your ice cream may help you cut empty calories!

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I'll never look at vanilla flavoured ice cream the same way again.

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Posted by aquasnoz
Not sure if last comment was joke or misdirection of sorts but here you go Get some vegan beer in ya.

I'm not vegan...

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Alright then get some vegetarian beer in ya! And now if you answer no to this one I'll be raising a brow or two.

Posted by Rabbit
If its beaver secretions, it must be Canadian.

I randomly said this while my friend was munching away on vanilla icecream. Though I felt bad the reaction was worth it.