things you dont like about the oppsite sex.

idk but with most women ive known.... they are always late.


haha so post.

Taurus women and the virgo sons she raises are never late.

haha yea, like with my libra mom the only thing she'll be on time for is her death.

Oh yea...shopping. Meh...

Posted by Pesca2
i don't like men who fart loud in public :/

the only thing that upsets me is when a man is trying to be a macho. i don't deal too well with that.

otherwise the opposites are necessary. keeps things alive.

lmao! I take it a guy was done that with you.

Stuff like, "Go make me a sammich."

Being talked down too like I was a simpleton. That will flip me from zero to bitch in .2 seconds.

I dont like that men seem to think they have these massive sex drives yet in every convo i have had with my girl mates, its the men who cant keep up!!!

Hehehehee never write a cheque you cannot cash.

Guys that aren't upfront about what it is they really want.

Men that think we can't handle the truth. So instead they act like idiots which always seems to become more of a problem than the truth ever could be.

Posted by libra sun
I dont like that men seem to think they have these massive sex drives yet in every convo i have had with my girl mates, its the men who cant keep up!!!

I think its because at a certain point the man gets arrested for sexual harrassment.

I think for me its the time spent on shopping and then they come home with one item. But I guess the latter is a good thing.

lmao😛 guys you have too wait until your married before you can do all the nasty stuff.

Oh and then there's the whoop whistles from building sites....what the hell is that all about— Do they think that it's a compliment or that it's going to get them somewhere...seriously!

*sigh* the male species can be so obnoxious....where do I start?

I don't like the fact that men have balls. It's just really weird and unnecessary imo. :/

They suck as "let's just be" friends. Screw that, I have guys as friends for that. Although, if she's a tomboy, I may make an exemption, but yeah, she can expect me to make a pass at her at some point.

I'm also jealous that they can have multiple orgasms. At least I can stay awake after firing my wad.

Women dressing to attract men - or to compete with other females for the attention of males- ; regardless of what they say, no, they aren't displaying cleavage or their thong because they can't find clothes that fit.

Oh, and the constant need for male attention that I see going on with the teenager females and the females in their early to mid 20's. I've seen quite a few guys getting shot down after making a move on the woman because they thought she was interested. Nope. She was just interested in getting free male attention to validate her physical appearance.

I also don't like how many women will have a guy to have sex with, a guy to date, and a guy to marry, all at the same time. I suppose many guys do this too.

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lmao😛 guys you have too wait until your married before you can do all the nasty stuff.

Posted by PandorasBox
Yeah, save the fartin n burpin n butt scratchin til AFTER you tie her down. It's the only way..

Hmm.. I hate how men tend to refer to women as objects! I get it cus I do it w/ my girls when we se a hot buffass guy on TV or w/e.. But cmon when you're tryin to have a serious convo and your dude drops an uncalled for comment.. It makes them look like that's all they see in all women, includin you!

Why do pople seem to feel the need to let themselves go just because they're married/tied down?

If people just carried on making an effort as they were before then maybe we wouldn't have so many people complaining how rubbish married life is.

I'll probably never get married.

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Scientific studies have been made and it seems Human beings are wired to seek new partners every few years(after the famous honeymoon stage). Marriage goes against nature. Living with a woman/man goes against nature. Most relationships won't last and the relationships(marriage, co -habitation) that do "work", are only still standing because they'd lose more if they divorced.

Spitting. And the constant need to expel fluids from his body. While women seem to keep/have to take it in—?

Coming on strong, then vanishing. Or another of my faves.. "You're wonderful, now watch me run like my ass is on fire."

AH! And another. Wanting you, and being silent about it. GRRRRRRRRR.

I agree. I'm a woman and that type of thing irks me. ^

Posted by Beetleguese
Seeing 'good' guys get thrown in the friend category because they are 'too nice', whilst hearing the same type of women bitch about the bad boy she's with treating her like shit...facepalm! Some women complain that guys won't open up emotionally and when they find one that does, they're all like eeeeekkkk, and off they go in search of the coolest looking misogynist they can find. I've known a few guys over the years that turned into player types because of this treatment; they were good, women loving dudes before some girl dug her stilettos into his heart, just sayin' 🙂

wow i so agree right here ^^^^^^

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Seeing 'good' guys get thrown in the friend category because they are 'too nice', whilst hearing the same type of women bitch about the bad boy she's with treating her like shit...facepalm! Some women complain that guys won't open up emotionally and when they find one that does, they're all like eeeeekkkk, and off they go in search of the coolest looking misogynist they can find. I've known a few guys over the years that turned into player types because of this treatment; they were good, women loving dudes before some girl dug her stilettos into his heart, just sayin' 🙂

That's because you're listening to what women say, not looking at what women do. Think about the women who are complete nightclub rats. Do you think they'll tell any future husband what they did when they were 20 years old?

We tell people how we want them to see us. Why do you see so many women say they can't find a good man? Plenty of those to go around. What you have to realize is that their definition of a good man is different from our definition. To that type of woman, a good man is a man with the face, body, and height, in the top 20% of the male population.

The other type of women is addicted to negative emotions. She will befriend the decent guy because he gives her free male attention, listens to her, and better than all? She can play victim all she wants - and that's what she really wants.

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Well simius, in my relationships, ( not that any were nightub rats, a strong sexual appetite isn't confined to those types) yeah they do tell me about their past and I tell them about mine. It's all in the past, has no bearing on the present and complete honesty means no surprises down the road. Maybe yours have been different, maybe you didn't want to know, I like to know everything, probably a scorp thing🙂

If the girl is disease free and clean, does it really matter if she fucked one guy a thousand times or say 50 guys a couple of times each? That works out to 2.5 guys per year, hardly slut material imo.

Sure, I want to know everything, hence most people turn me off. Hm, 2 guys per year is too much. Did you know that British women have 9 sexual partners by age 21? That's the average woman. I wonder how many sexual partners the more sexual liberated the woman is. No, even if std clean(doubtful), I wouldn't want that.

Posted by Pesca2
quality over quantity 😉

besides, where does love fit into this? how many people can you love per year? i mean in a romantic sense?

Love is achemical reaction created by the body to ensure the survival of the Human Species. It gives an emotional high but after two years it starts to decline, until another "love" comes along, and the process is repeated. Nature's way to make sure you spread your seed. Love, It can be easily broken down to genetics, pheromones, and the desirability of certain evolutionary traits. Yes, not very romantic, but then again, love is a word created by poets from the 19th century as propaganda device to sell their books.

Posted by Pesca2
yes. it sounds very hard the way you put it. but why is it then, that we all crave love to a certain extent? not only people who are in their best years eager to spread their genes. how can we explain love or the feeling we have for our families, our friends etc. survival? belonging? acceptance? what is this longing we have?

you know, as much as i appreciate science and darwin, i??d rather like to believe in the words of keats, shelly, byron and blake :-)

We all crave love? The Pope does not. The Holy Father of the Buddhists does not. Buddha does not. The saints do not. The celibates do not. How can they crave what doesn't exist? At least not the romantic love this world's economy is fueled by. The instinct to spread genes was instilled into our genes by nature. Without it, we wouldn't have children. The asexuals don't have sexual desires, very rarely they have emotional desires. No children either. Our families? We care for our family because of the instinct for survival. Thousands of years ago, people could only survive if they sticked together.

We have this sense of belonging because, as I said, without sticking together, we would have died a long time ago as a species. Our teeth are weak. Our fingernails are weak. Only with the appearance of tools and civilization at large was our survival guaranteed. Then people got together to make the land thrive, thus rising their quality of life.

Hermits don't have any need for belonging because they don't need anyone to survive. Byron was a misogynist. He hated women. Keats was dying so what he wrote is akin to a teenager boy dying of cancer, but desperate to know what sex is like. Shelly was another rebel, who tried to break away from his society by behaving in a shocking manner. Blake, can't say, but he seemed to drug himself. I get that impression.

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Posted by Pesca2
quality over quantity 😉

besides, where does love fit into this? how many people can you love per year? i mean in a romantic sense?

Love is achemical reaction created by the body to ensure the survival of the Human Species. It gives an emotional high but after two years it starts to decline, until another "love" comes along, and the process is repeated. Nature's way to make sure you spread your seed. Love, It can be easily broken down to genetics, pheromones, and the desirability of certain evolutionary traits. Yes, not very romantic, but then again, love is a word created by poets from the 19th century as propaganda device to sell their books.

Love isn't linked to gentics.

Love wasn't created by the 19th century. In fact, love, was highly influenced in Greek poets. Likewise, philosophy is "love of wisdom". It can very well be dated long before that as well.

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Although 84% of societies practise Quantity over Quality, I can understand your reasoning. But it isn't linked.

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The love, the romantic/sexual love we're talking about is not linked to genetics? Then what is it then, romantic love? Without sexual attraction "love" cannot materialize and attraction comes from certain physical factors, characteristics that nature thought necessary for the survival of Mankind. Brotherly love, friendship love, those are different concepts that have nothing to do with romance.

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
^If that were entirely the case..how come only some humans can pick up feromones?^

Because some human beings are more visuals than others; others rely on the other senses to find attraction.

Humans aren't evolved. We have the same bodies and the same brains of our ancestors. A 200.000 year old Homo Sapiens Sapiens could walk the streets of Tokyo without someone trowing a second glance at him; in fact, we see a creature like that everyday.

Ourselves. The way we react to people - sexually and emotionally - is still very similar to the way our ancestors did. We still find the young woman to be attractive because she's fertile even if she's average looking, women still want a taller guy because he makes her feel protected. It goes back a long way. Romance has nothing to do with it. Aggressive behaviors might trigger the attraction button, as we look at guys like Casanova and Lord Byron, but most attraction comes from looking at attractive people and what makes them attractive?

A 5 feet female will find a 6'8'' male to be attractive. A poor female will find a rich man to be attractive.

"hermits in my opinion are antisocial. they just cannot put up with society and choose to be alone. they seek insight, enlightenment."

There are very few antisocial human beings. Antisocial is the person who can't obey human rules. The antisocial person cannot respect other people. Hermits want to live a quiet life. They want to listen to their inner voice, instead of the constant noise from the cellphones, other people talking around etc.

"how would you explain the love for somebody after he/she has passed? is it guilt of being alive?"


Attachment. Attachment is the emotional bond, created by constant interaction. Look at a dog. You might find it cute, but if you take it in and take care of it, sooner or later you'll grow a bond with him. One day that dog will die. You will suffer. Because of the attachment. You wouldn't have suffered, had you not formed the bond with the dog.

The more time we spend with someone, the more we crave the presence of that someone. When you get used to the distance, the need for constant contact is decreased, until the feelings start to decrease as we all see, long distance relationships are hard(because the attachment begins to decrease until its gone).

"i do not really care for the motives of those poets - we all are after human - who crave for love or belonging etc.; to a certain degree blake and dante are the only two who have been able to keep my interest awake."

But what would people consider love? Would most people want to be in sexless relationships? what makes "love" what it is?

The chemical reaction and addiction created during sex. Without that, all we have is a friendship. Most people confuse love with sex because lust is the propeller of relationships.

"to a certain degree blake and dante are the only two who have been able to keep my interest awake."

Blake, never read it, but Dante was obsessive - compulsive and his addiction to Beatrice would have been considered sickly and the behavior of a stalker, if he wasn't a poet. Dante used Beatrice as his emotional canvas. He never really felt for her. How could he? He only saw her two times in his lifetime and for mere minutes.

Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
No, I mean Psychology acknowlegdes the fact that currently only a fraction of humans can actually smell pheromones. Doesnt this in itself imply that we have evolved biologically in other areas as well compared to our ancestors? that maybe we are no longer unconsciously driven by sexual attraction when choosing mates INITIALLY?

This recession probably makes men and women choose more affluent partners 😉. Our sense of smell, and any other ability to detect pheromones has decreased. We now rely on other aids. Like breasts, lips, waist, height, muscles and so on. Most women want a man who is taller. For example, in the UK and in the USA, many, if not most women, want a man who is at least 6 feet tall.

Posted by Pesca2
thanks for the effort. this is so black and white. so absolute. so strictly put in categories. i find it hard to accept that approach.

i still think we are so much more than "just" our genes or biochemistry. laws of attraction? i often debate about this with my friends. there are exceptions to these laws.

of course hermits want a quiet life. they cannot fit in society with their point of view of life etc. so they rather decline and be alone.

few antisocial human beings? i would think according to the amount of evidence and documents out there of serial killers and other criminals or plain evil people that we have tons of antisocial people.

Its impossible to defeat biology. Unless you manipulate your genes in a lab. How we are, how creative we are, how nice our hair is, how long we'll live, how young or old we'll look; it all depends on our genes.

Genes are the future, the present and the past, and its impossible to put feelings into it and pretty words because nothing will ever change what we are geared to do. Reproduce. A few will destroy their genetic destiny, by will or by "faulty" design, but most will continue fueling the world's economy with the pursuit of "love" and "soul mates " and the sense of "belonging".

Exceptions are like the rock that killed the Dinosaurs. They might be heavy weights, but they are very rare 😉.

"of course hermits want a quiet life. they cannot fit in society with their point of view of life etc. so they rather decline and be alone."

A matter of practice. Ghandi lived well within his society, so did Jesus Christ and several other less spiritual but still very much tuned into this marvelous illusion that we humans created to surround us(like, leaving the lights on to keep the boogie man away).

Posted by TG
And talldark and aries - you??re such a typical aries. If you can't be friends with a girl, why don't you just stay the fuck away from girls and stick to your guy friends. I mean why is it so hard for you aries to only be friends with a girl? Oh, that's right - because you are onesided macho-pricks who see women as sexual objects. Yuck!

Sorry, but the female species is just so tempting, especially women who can climb trees and shoot guns like it's nothing. Those are the kind I don't mind being friends with. BUT, since I prefer tough and independent chicks, I can't help but to pursue them. It's like the extra testosterone helps them understand guys better. Plus, it's not like I screw them then toss them. If a chick is good enough for me to want to have sex with her, then I wouldn't mind sticking with her.

"few antisocial human beings? i would think according to the amount of evidence and documents out there of serial killers and other criminals or plain evil people that we have tons of antisocial people."


I have my doubts. Some serial killers can pass as social creatures. Ted Bundy, a very attractive young attorney, was very much desired by women. He was charismatic and intelligent but he was still obsessed with his first girlfriend. He eventually killed her. Jack The Ripper. I suspect the man could easily act like a social man. I don't believe he'd be capable of approaching the prostitutes if they(the prostitutes) felt uneasy to be near him.

Adolf Hitler had his crazy ideas and he still managed to mesmerize many millions. The anti social creature is easy to detect because it can't control himself.

Posted by domino_O
Let alone, there is no genetics for personality traits.

So it seems. Now.

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"i will not argue those points made about survival etc, because clearly it was like that. but can one really compare the humans of today - who i hope are evolved - with those humanoid people of let's say stone-ages?"

^^ you did not just say that

:: smacks self in the head for you::

ok. so you still light your fire with a flintstone? you use guttural tones for language and eat raw meat if lucky?

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Women still travel in "packs". Women still go to the bathroom in groups. Guys don't do that. At least most don't. Why do women go to the bathroom in packs? Because, millions of years ago, the women would go outside of the cave, and the women who were just there to accompany the one who had to urinate, would surround her and keep watch for the sabertooth.

Why is there such a terrible thing as rape? Because reproduction is still wired into the man's genetic imperatives and those guys, for some reason, aren't desired by women. Its also about power, but its mostly a reproductive "strategy".

Why are men - of any group age - interested in younger women? For her fertility. Why are women interested in older males? For his life experiences, his maturity and more importantly; his assets.

Has nothing to do with gold- digging.

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Let alone, there is no genetics for personality traits.

So it seems. Now.

So it seems, ever.

We have not change mentally for thousands of years. If we change mentally at all. We are no different 10'000 years ago in the near ends of the stone age, and even thousands of years before that as well. You've stated yourself genetics (our genes) make up for who we are and we cannot change it. Personality and behavioural traits are not linked to genetics and there has been no evidence to suggest so. However, you can argue that genetic defects of the mind correspond to certain behavioural aspects, but behaviours are responses of learning, so indeed, it isn't actually linked to the genetic make up.

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Our genes are dots. When you connect those dots you get a human being. Manipulate those dots and you can create a human being that is what you want it to be. Remove a man's sexual drive from his genes and you'll see men losing interest in chasing women. Take away a woman's biological clock(her impulse to have children) and you won't see that many(if at all) women having children.

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Let alone, there is no genetics for personality traits.

So it seems. Now.

So it seems, ever.

We have not change mentally for thousands of years. If we change mentally at all. We are no different 10'000 years ago in the near ends of the stone age, and even thousands of years before that as well. You've stated yourself genetics (our genes) make up for who we are and we cannot change it. Personality and behavioural traits are not linked to genetics and there has been no evidence to suggest so. However, you can argue that genetic defects of the mind correspond to certain behavioural aspects, but behaviours are responses of learning, so indeed, it isn't actually linked to the genetic make up.

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Actually, thousands of years ago, people would take what they wanted. We've been tamed. Look at dogs. They descend from wolves. Are wolves social creatures? Not when man is around. Look at the Goths, the Visigoths, the Vikings etc etc. They were barbarians. Now look at Sweden; its a Feminist Country(the most feminized Country). Most guys in Sweden are tamed, all size, all muscles but tamed lions. Its easy to breed docile human beings as it is equally easy to breed Hordes of Mongolian riders(genghis Khan).

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"few antisocial human beings? i would think according to the amount of evidence and documents out there of serial killers and other criminals or plain evil people that we have tons of antisocial people."


I have my doubts. Some serial killers can pass as social creatures. Ted Bundy, a very attractive young attorney, was very much desired by women. He was charismatic and intelligent but he was still obsessed with his first girlfriend. He eventually killed her. Jack The Ripper. I suspect the man could easily act like a social man. I don't believe he'd be capable of approaching the prostitutes if they(the prostitutes) felt uneasy to be near him.

Adolf Hitler had his crazy ideas and he still managed to mesmerize many millions. The anti social creature is easy to detect because it can't control himself.

there is a saying about serial killers, they appear to be so normal it's frightning. something to that extent. they know what society expects of them in able to get what they want and need. they like all others also have jobs, pay rents etc. etc. which does??nt stop them form acting antisocial when killing or raping etc.

adolf hitler - an endless topic. he came around when people were suffering major economic downs. how many millions of germans were unemployed? how many poor people? then comes along a man who clearly knew what to say - a populist with an evil plan.

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Some serial killers have all the signs of being serial killers before becoming serial killers, sometimes going back years. Charles Manson was the son of a prostitute(strangely, he had a genius IQ), extremely abused by his mother and stepfather(?). He was refused parole because he was clearly insane. You're talking about Sociopaths. There's a difference; sociopaths can act like perfectly normal human beings. They're able to manipulate people rather easily and they can show any emotion, although they don't feel emotions.

"adolf hitler - an endless topic. he came around when people were suffering major economic downs. how many millions of germans were unemployed? how many poor people? then comes along a man who clearly knew what to say - a populist with an evil plan."

Many millions were out of work. Hitler was an extremely charismatic man. He was also a certified Genius. What a shame. Instead of using his gifts for good, he had to go and almost destroy the western Civilization, and kill those millions of Jews.

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Wow, this thread quickly turned into white noise.

Nice horns.

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Posted by Tahlia
"i will not argue those points made about survival etc, because clearly it was like that. but can one really compare the humans of today - who i hope are evolved - with those humanoid people of let's say stone-ages?"

^^ you did not just say that

:: smacks self in the head for you::

ok. so you still light your fire with a flintstone? you use guttural tones for language and eat raw meat if lucky?

Women still travel in "packs". Women still go to the bathroom in groups. Guys don't do that. At least most don't. Why do women go to the bathroom in packs? Because, millions of years ago, the women would go outside of the cave, and the women who were just there to accompany the one who had to urinate, would surround her and keep watch for the sabertooth.

Why is there such a terrible thing as rape? Because reproduction is still wired into the man's genetic imperatives and those guys, for some reason, aren't desired by women. Its also about power, but its mostly a reproductive "strategy".

Why are men - of any group age - interested in younger women? For her fertility. Why are women interested in older males? For his life experiences, his maturity and more importantly; his assets.

Has nothing to do with gold- digging.

but this sounds so stereotype. not everybody behaves like this. we might have the blueprint of our ancestors but do we really still act it out? i personally never go in packs to the bathroom. just saying.

rape? i would consider that an act of sexual frustration (not desired, prior humiliation, etc.) and just psychopathy. antisocial behaviour.

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Sexual frustration can be easily solved by using the services of prostitutes. Its legal in Europe and the prostitutes tend to be very attractive and young, but rape still occurs. Rapists don't usually wear condoms, so the risk of catching a std is there(condoms don't really protect against stds, but that's for a different story), so the guy who rapes is doing it hoping to get the woman pregnant.

Most people still react like that, yes. For example. We males have the instinct to prote

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Posted by Simius
"adolf hitler - an endless topic. he came around when people were suffering major economic downs. how many millions of germans were unemployed? how many poor people? then comes along a man who clearly knew what to say - a populist with an evil plan."

Many millions were out of work. Hitler was an extremely charismatic man. He was also a certified Genius. What a shame. Instead of using his gifts for good, he had to go and almost destroy the western Civilization, and kill those millions of Jews.

yes. that is the danger of populists and people who do not question the system. lemming theory.

i wonder if he had not been declined the study of art in vienna if history would be what it is today?

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Things would have been very different. Europe wouldn't have lost its place as the most powerful continent, and Japan wouldn't be where it is now. And America wouldn't have been so rich(well, at least until a few decades ago) had it not been for the war effort(Europe needed bullets and guns etc).

"Most people still react like that, yes. For example. We males have the instinct to prote"


To protect women. I've been in such situations and my first instinct - and my reaction - was to flee the place because I'm not interested in dealing with the consequences of protecting a woman. Doesn't matter how tall or how trained the guy is, any short guy can bring permanent damage to a big guy. I remember seeing a guy easily with 190 pounds and abou 6'3'' and he got his jaw broken by a much shorter and lighter guy.

My pleasure.