True Love: Question for everyone..

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by jaya on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 and has 45 replies.

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@jaya
21 YearsLibra
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Would you marry your true love knowing that he would marry other women also? Like in those cultures where more than one wife is a.ok...?

Considering that you may only find your true love once.. ?
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@Alana
21 Years1,000+ Posts
I don't believe in one true love.....I do believe there are probably only a handful of people or less even that will or can "touch" your "core being" for want of a better word. I used to believe in one true love when I was younger but as I grow older I have been proved wrong time and time again in this department. At one time, my husband was truly my one true love...then that ended!!.....along came Mr. Cap. and again I was "convinced" it was one true love.......(in between there were countless others who came and went) - that ended too!! - and then I met Mr. Virgo and for the "moment" he is my true love....but moments come and go and so do "lovers"....I feel to say that you only can only have one true love is almost an insult (maybe that is too strong a word!) to oneself and others (you're basically saying I am not open to all the other beautiful people that may enter yoru life and leave a different mark on your heart) - I wants lots of marks on my heart at the end of my life:-) But then again I am talking from an aquarian point of view - I just skip across boundaries and break the rules because I can:-)!!!!

Libra girl doesn't agree with me on this point and that's fair enough:-)

As for the marrying dilemma.......as Morganofmind says....kill the b. i. t. c. h. after you wed!!!!! Forget the marriage bit....it doesn't work - oh my how cynical I am today!!!! But I really believe marriage kills a certain spark between lovers....eventually it dampens down the chemistry...it certainly serves a purpose for Society in general and humankind - procreation and every child should have two parents - but Society will never tell you about the "dampening" down effect.....it's sad but true.


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@LunaLady
21 Years
Yeah ok. . .

Random Question: Is your true love your soulmate?

Because I don't think your soulmate has to be your true love. . . So true love is intrusive to soulmate, but not all soul mates are true loves?

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@Freebird
21 Years1,000+ Posts
My thoughts are on par with Alana's. I agree with what she says, "moments come and go and so do lovers." At this point in time in my life anyway.

Another question.....what exactly is "true love?" is this opposed to "false love?" and just plain, "love?" what does all of this mean?

When I love someone it is true for me or I would not be loving them. I agree that there are many different forms or feelings of love depending who and "what" you are in a relationship with at the time.

Maybe it all boils down to each persons perspective again...

I'm "lovin" this!
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@james tate
21 Years10,000+ PostsCapricorn
TRUE LOV
tell me something sweet
like without me your incomplete
if thats not true , well thats o.k.
tell me that you need me baby
that you can't live with out me baby
that you want to kiss me all dam night and day.
look out baby look out fool
Im your true lover and I am just not that cool.
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@jaya
21 YearsLibra
hahaha..Jt you're on to something, huh.. hmm...

and yeah..guys supposing this is it.. this is for you..
you know it, he or she knows it, and the cards are set..

Would you snuff out all of his other spouses_ for real like that??
Damn.. I hope I never cross paths with any of all of your lovers.. you guys are deep..hahahahhaha...

True love.which touches and warms the soul, churns the tum tum, and leaves the mouth and senses wanting..tickles your fancy, soothes your spirits and snaps in you as fated completion.. this true love that makes women weak and men, otherwise insipid.. makes us safe and feeling secured, treasured and most of all loved and speechlessly appreciated..
I do believe that in savouring these things that I might be drawn to unreason also..
as for other wives in our over love fountain.. I suppose 'tis unfair for their lot too..

now ladies.. if you hadn't known that he had more wives than just you when you were married, considering all this that he offers to you in wole being and comfort..would you then stay married with him, or would you leave and go elsewhere..??



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@jaya
21 YearsLibra
typo* between our and over.. should be our over flowing love fountain.. like love flowing as sinfully satisfying chocolate...
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@LunaLady
21 Years
Knowing my natural tendency towards tragic drama, I'd leave.


Err. . . Yeah, and in my opinion, that's not what true love is. True love is not something that potentially emotionally powerful, but something familiar and comfortable, no stress, no worries. And one of the key factors of true love is TRUST. And thus after I found out that he was keeping secrets, I know I dont have that trust, and therefore it can't be true love.
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@james tate
21 Years10,000+ PostsCapricorn
Wake up lady's ,
wake up fools,
take one last look around you,
before I walk out of this room.


your true lover I am like no outher.

you know lover
there is one thing I will tell you before I leave
you can not tell an angle by his wings
you can only tell an angle by the song he sangs
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@Libragirl
21 Years500+ Posts
No (Alana!), I believe in a few 'true loves' as well. I used to think there was only 'one' person for everyone, but i guess it's just a romantic notion, encouraged by all the Mills and Boon books we are exposed to as teenagers! Oh, and i used to believe in one 'true love' until i met what i thought was mine. Looking back on it now if that person was my one true love i am in big trouble because while we shared something 'special (well i thought so anyway)', we were in no way compatable. So i guess in conclusion i believe we have a few chances at 'true love', but when i have one of my 'true loves', i will not share them with anybody! Unless of course they have my permission, lol.

And i also believe that your true love may not be your soul mate as i believe we have many soul mates also. The soul mate thing to me is more interesting than the true love thing, i don't know why. Perhaps because they make such an impression on your life.

I think i will go with JT and say i believe in true lust and nothing more, lol.
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@Morganofmind
21 Years1,000+ Posts
See now I'm confused about the difference between a soul mate of the opposite and a true love then. I don't get it? Isn't that kind of a connection real love? I guess it's the lust thing that gets in the way. Stupid lust. OK. In my opinion, true love doesn't have to involve lust.
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@Lawgoddess
21 Years500+ Posts
To answer the question, personally I would not marry a man (my true love) if the culture permits polygamy. Not my thing to share..too many jealousy issues.

Phylisophoical viewpoint..while it may be 'my' true love, who could say whether I am 'his' true love, if he wishes to marry others as well. So i do question what 'true love' is along the same lines as others here. However, without experiencing cultures that practice polygamy, i can not really offer an informed opinion as to whether the parties involved in such an arrangement do in fact feel "true love", b/c they might actually ALL experience it.

True love would not be an issue of the question asked, but rather the inequalities from a woman's perspective and the subserviant manner in which women are viewed under such an arrangement.
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@Lawgoddess
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P.S. Polygamy is an issue that I am not comfortable with. IF however, it was law that women could ALSO wed as many men as she peased, the issue then becomes fine by me (but not personally).

Remembering that the Christian view of marriage, which is also the accepted lawful view (but is now being extended) is that marriage is the "union b/w one man and one women to the exclusion of all others."

Query, however, Mormons are christains tooβ€” Or not? I am unsure. If so, then it is not an entirely christain viewpoint, but it IS the viewpoint from a legal perspective.

Cultural perspectives also need to be taken into consideration.
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@phoenix_rising
21 Years5,000+ Posts
I haven't yet read all the responses here, I'm going to give my opinion first. So as not to be influenced by others' thoughts.

I could never marry anyone who even had a remote romantic interest in anyone else. 1) Yuck...I'm not sharing...in either a physical or emotional sense...and 2)Why bother taking vows to be faithful, forsaking all others until death do you part if you're "not gonna"? ...3)If I unknowingly married someone who was already married, and then I found out...I hope he's insured. And she'd be wise to take a long vacation on the other side of the planet. If she didn't *know*...well, I'd tell her. I'm stopping now before I get really dark... πŸ™‚
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@Libragirl
21 Years500+ Posts
Good on you for 'telling' the girl; quite often it's the man's fault and the poor women are left in the lurch. Nothing worse than a spineless man who plays around and then let's the two, or more, women unleash on each other. Women should unite to stop this sort of thing. It's a real shame women feel they have to fight over a man. If i were heterosexual, i would have my boyfriend so tied down to me it wouldn't be funny, lol! And if he dared strayed, look out. I've always had my 'guys' under my thumb though; probably because i don't really care for them. Funny isn't it, the thing you don't care about always hangs around and the thing you want seems to be more elusive. Go figure. Anyway, my thoughts on two-timing men are that they are pathetic scum. I hate men sometimes, but real men, only men who think they can treat others any way they please. I never thought i would become a man-hater. All men on this board are exempt however πŸ˜‰

I think polygamy is weird too, but if my lover wanted to sleep with someone else she could, as long as she told me about it afterward. And she'd never be able to do it again, and if she lied to me in the first place, it would be over. Make sense?
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@Libragirl
21 Years500+ Posts
I don't know what i was going to say about 'real men'. I think i was going to say that a 'real man' treats a woman with respect and is open emotionally. If such a thing exists, then i would not hate men.
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@Morganofmind
21 Years1,000+ Posts
I have a lot of close friends that are guys, but we're nothing more than friends. With some of these I guys I have a really close relationship, as in we talk almost every night about just about everything. Now these guys are single. Do you think that my relationship with them would be the same if they had girl friends? I don't think it would, because I bet anything their girlfriend would not like how much time the spent with me, even though I don't have a romantic interest in them. They wouldn't want their attention to be split between different women. What do you think?
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@ladyautumn
21 Years
True love...
Something hard to explain....but only feel.
No need to speak it out but there's sign and feel in both to each others.

It's not just simple attraction and seduction but.......
the fate itself with lots of coincidence... and life fill with completion with each others' existance.
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@Morganofmind
21 Years1,000+ Posts
I'd say that it was a mutual feeling of the ideas expressed in this song:

Alanis Morissette "You Owe Me Nothing In Return":

And there are no strings attached.

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
And you owe me nothing in return.

You can ask for space for yourself and only yourself and I'll grant it. You can ask for freedom as well or time to travel and you'll have it. You can ask to live by yourself or love someone else and I'll support it. You can ask for anything you want anything at all and I'll understand it.

And there are no strings attached.

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
And you owe me nothing in return.

I bet you're wondering when
THE NEXT PAY BACK YOU WILL EVENTUALLY DROP.
I bet you're wondering when my conditional police will force you to cough up. I bet you're wondering HOW FAR YOU HAVE NOW DANCED YOU'RE WAY BACK INTO DEAD. This is the only kind of love As I understand it that there really is.

You can express your deepest of truths even if it means I'll lose you and I'll hear it. You can fall into the abyss on your way to your bliss I'll empathize with. You can say that you have to skip town to chase your passion and I'll hear it. You can even hit rock bottom have a mid - life crisis and I'll hold it.

And there are no strings attached

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege
And you owe me nothing in return

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege
And you owe me nothing in return

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@OLD JAKE
21 Years1,000+ Posts
Almost a year before you spoke, words of wisdom comeing from the past, you want true love I love my childern and grand childern, knowing they will never love me like I love them, there is no hard ship I would not endure for them, no hell I would not go through. They are my true loves.
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@Freebird
21 Years1,000+ Posts
Children teach us what true unconditonal love is...I feel the same way that you do, Jake. I would and have done everything for my boys...Ain't no mountain high enough, ain't no river wide enough to keep me from getting to you...I sang this song to my oldest son while holding his hand in the car a few years back when I was taking him to college - I still get a bit choked up when we are together and that song comes on...I will always be there for them, always.
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@OLD JAKE
21 Years1,000+ Posts
Freebird by the same thought last night my son and his wife brought my grandson to a tavern I hang out in. he is 19 months old talk about going through hell.

Twinflame where did jammy post I would like to say hello?
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@Qbone
21 Years10,000+ PostsVirgo
hmm..freebird..
marvin gaye or diana ross version...??
just kidding...πŸ™‚
sigh...
Ture love "can only be proved and explained by actions".
BUT...
The "reciver" must be wise enough to translate it correctly or else has no meaning..
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