Which has killed the most?

Communism, Capitalism, or religion

RELIGION

None. I vote stupidity.

This is the easiest question I have seen in months.

Communism.

Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Chavez, Kim Jong Il, Che, Castro and many others of their mindset have the blood of hundreds of millions of innocent people on their hands.

History has shown, and current events continue to show, that the only way for Communism to effectively work is to systematically murder half the country's population in the early stages and current promotion of it in the streets and gulags.

The half murdered usually manifest the free-thinking half.

The other half are the sheep who go along with it.

Posted by CluelessCancer
Great question...i think capitalism

Capitalists don't murder people for having an education, but Communists do.

You should look up Pol Pot some time, and read about his first actions against ANYONE who had an education and were under his control.

Posted by ScorpioFish
This is the easiest question I have seen in months.

Communism.

Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Chavez, Kim Jong Il, Che, Castro and many others of their mindset have the blood of hundreds of millions of innocent people on their hands.

History has shown, and current events continue to show, that the only way for Communism to effectively work is to systematically murder half the country's population in the early stages and current promotion of it in the streets and gulags.

The half murdered usually manifest the free-thinking half.

The other half are the sheep who go along with it.

That's the correct answer, but considering the question as phrased I doubted the operational premise behind it.

GREED and EGO

Hell, Brezhnev murdered a million in Afghanistan alone when the Communists attacked that country.

Pol Pot murdered 2 million of his own people over criteria such as if they were Christians or had an education.

I could go on for days about the estimated 80 million innocent people that Mao murdered in China.

Bull dictators!

D. Time

Posted by MellyMel909
But... the Communist system as we know it has only been around since 1848.

People have been killing in the name of their religion for a whole lot longer..

You really think the body count of pinnacle moments such as sporadic religious wars like the Crusades and conquest of the Ottoman Empire comes even close to the number murdered by the Communists?

Really, dude?

Once again the woeful ignorance of history is on full display here at DXP.com

RELIGION!

Posted by CluelessCancer

Posted by ScorpioFish
Hell, Brezhnev murdered a million in Afghanistan alone when the Communists attacked that country.

Pol Pot murdered 2 million of his own people over criteria such as if they were Christians or had an education.

I could go on for days about the estimated 80 million innocent people that Mao murdered in China.

and to do that? They needed weapons. Weapons are a capitalistic tool. Capitalism kills

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What in the hell are you talking about?

Seriously, do you know ANYTHING about Pol Pot and Mao?

Posted by CluelessCancer

Posted by ScorpioFish

Posted by CluelessCancer
Great question...i think capitalism

Capitalists don't murder people for having an education, but Communists do.

You should look up Pol Pot some time, and read about his first actions against ANYONE who had an education and were under his control.

capitalist feed on wars and murder. shoot goldman sachs alone has killed millions of Africans with their speculations on commodities.

They kill ideas that are progressive. they're murdering things everyday.

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Boy, you are eating your fucking idiot pills today, CC.

What did you do, swallow the whole bottle?

WWII was fought by Americans (Capitalism) to stop Germans (National Socialism/Progressivists) from putting religiously persecuted and political dissidents (read anti-Nazis) into ovens, as well as stop Imperial Japan from ravaging Asia (the Japanese murdered over 200,000 innocent civilians in Manchuria alone).

If you have a problem with Goldman Sachs, then take it up with the international banking system.

You still haven't spoken out against the democrats (national socialist-progressivists) that are responsible for financing, supporting and fighting to advocate the systematic genocide of black babies through the abortion clinics such as Planned Parenthood.

Religion. For it has ties in Capitalism and Communism. Scary truth.

HITLER = KILL THE JEWS RELIGION
MUSLEM IF THEY DON,T CONVERT KILL THEM
GO BACK 5,000 YEARS AND LOOK AT IT MOSTLY RELIGION

@op

Are you asking in relative or absolute terms?

Posted by ScorpioFish
Once again the woeful ignorance of history is on full display here at DXP.com

Religion, though Communism does its best to keep up.

BUT there is really no difference; Communism says there is no God, but the State-- it all comes down to power.

Posted by james tate
HITLER = KILL THE JEWS RELIGION
MUSLEM IF THEY DON,T CONVERT KILL THEM
GO BACK 5,000 YEARS AND LOOK AT IT MOSTLY RELIGION

Actually, Hitler killed the Jews over their racial/ethnic/physical "deficient" traits moreso than their religious traits. So it's not really fair to say that the Holocaust was waged predominately for religious reasons.

Keep in mind that it was the "Master Race uber alles fur ein 1,000 jarh Reich."

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
None. I vote stupidity.

Agreed, that is the root of it all.

I thought women were the root of all evil?

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Haven't quite reached that consensus yet, but with what has been seen and experienced lately...

I am starting to wonder if there are any good women left.

There are a few that I am aware of, so I haven't completely lost all hope.

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Posted by CluelessCancer

Posted by ScorpioFish
Hell, Brezhnev murdered a million in Afghanistan alone when the Communists attacked that country.

Pol Pot murdered 2 million of his own people over criteria such as if they were Christians or had an education.

I could go on for days about the estimated 80 million innocent people that Mao murdered in China.

and to do that? They needed weapons. Weapons are a capitalistic tool. Capitalism kills

What in the hell are you talking about?

Seriously, do you know ANYTHING about Pol Pot and Mao?

Didn't Pol Pot abolish religion (along with anything else that threatened his power)?

Isn't religion (that which is not sanctioned by the State) "illegal" in China, which is Communist?

I think the two are intertwined-- hopelessly so.

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Posted by james tate
HITLER = KILL THE JEWS RELIGION
MUSLEM IF THEY DON,T CONVERT KILL THEM
GO BACK 5,000 YEARS AND LOOK AT IT MOSTLY RELIGION

Actually, Hitler killed the Jews over their racial/ethnic/physical "deficient" traits moreso than their religious traits. So it's not really fair to say that the Holocaust was waged predominately for religious reasons.

Keep in mind that it was the "Master Race uber alles fur ein 1,000 jarh Reich."

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Fair? lol

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
None. I vote stupidity.

Agreed, that is the root of it all.

I thought women were the root of all evil?

Lol not at all. Actually men can be added to that list probably right after stupidity lol it's pretty apparent that men have been the cause of most, if not all of the chaos and destruction in this world throughout our history.

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Yes, but who committed the first sin?

Adam or Eve?

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
None. I vote stupidity.

Agreed, that is the root of it all.

I thought women were the root of all evil?

Lol not at all. Actually men can be added to that list probably right after stupidity lol it's pretty apparent that men have been the cause of most, if not all of the chaos and destruction in this world throughout our history.

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Though I don't think "men" are necessarily the root of evil, I do find it interesting that countries where women have little to no rights are more violent.

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
None. I vote stupidity.

Agreed, that is the root of it all.

I thought women were the root of all evil?

Lol not at all. Actually men can be added to that list probably right after stupidity lol it's pretty apparent that men have been the cause of most, if not all of the chaos and destruction in this world throughout our history.

Yes, but who committed the first sin?

Adam or Eve?

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And who "ruled over" Eve?

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
None. I vote stupidity.

Agreed, that is the root of it all.

I thought women were the root of all evil?

Lol not at all. Actually men can be added to that list probably right after stupidity lol it's pretty apparent that men have been the cause of most, if not all of the chaos and destruction in this world throughout our history.

Yes, but who committed the first sin?

Adam or Eve?

🙂

And who "ruled over" Eve?

🙂

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Eve enacted her God-given free will by choosing to listen to Satan rather than walk away from and ignore him.

She subsequently tainted mankind's future when she not only defied God and ate the forbidden fruit, but she also pulled Adam in on the sin and ultimately cursed the entire planet as a result.

Wrath of God came about after Eve made her decisions.

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Posted by JenLove
Lol not at all. Actually men can be added to that list probably right after stupidity lol it's pretty apparent that men have been the cause of most, if not all of the chaos and destruction in this world throughout our history.

Yes, but who committed the first sin?

Adam or Eve?

🙂

I'm not religious so that story is completely fictional and therefore irrelevant to me so I guess this argument or whatever it was to begin with is over now since we're obviously on two different pages lol

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I suspect you have the IQ of a chicken.

Good for you.

Bravo.

Posted by ScorpioFishEve enacted her God-given free will by choosing to listen to Satan rather than walk away from and ignore him.

She subsequently tainted mankind's future when she not only defied God and ate the forbidden fruit, but she also pulled Adam in on the sin and ultimately cursed the entire planet as a result.

Wrath of God came about after Eve made her decisions.

Well-- that is one wrong way to look at it.

Soo-- how is that Eve had this "free-will", but Adam was subject to the whims of Eve?

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by ScorpioFishEve enacted her God-given free will by choosing to listen to Satan rather than walk away from and ignore him.

She subsequently tainted mankind's future when she not only defied God and ate the forbidden fruit, but she also pulled Adam in on the sin and ultimately cursed the entire planet as a result.

Wrath of God came about after Eve made her decisions.

Well-- that is one wrong way to look at it.

Soo-- how is that Eve had this "free-will", but Adam was subject to the whims of Eve?

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Eve used her God-given free will to choose Satan's temptation and defy God. She could have easily instead chosen to walk away from him and ignore him. However, she made her decision, and pulled Adam in on it as well. Nowhere in the scriptures is it written about Satan trying his sale with Adam, which leads me to believe he went to Eve for distinct reasons.

God's wrath did not exist on this planet until Eve chose to listen to Satan instead of God.

The earth was cursed, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden, and the planet went in the direction of thorns and torment thereafter.

Good film, Nemesis.

Can you name all of the deadly sins?

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Posted by Nemesis
in fact satan is not even mentioned that often in the bible. satan is an adversary. hence why lawyers get a bad rep these days still hehe. he does play a big role in the revelations of john though.

read the book Job guys.

i wish there was a bible less flowery....

Everyone hates lawyers, until they need one. 😄


Job is incredibly revealing-- though to my understanding, it reveals Satan not as an adversary, but The Adversary.

The premise alone is fascinating.

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Posted by ScorpioFishEve enacted her God-given free will by choosing to listen to Satan rather than walk away from and ignore him.

She subsequently tainted mankind's future when she not only defied God and ate the forbidden fruit, but she also pulled Adam in on the sin and ultimately cursed the entire planet as a result.

Wrath of God came about after Eve made her decisions.

Well-- that is one wrong way to look at it.

Soo-- how is that Eve had this "free-will", but Adam was subject to the whims of Eve?

Eve used her God-given free will to choose Satan's temptation and defy God. She could have easily instead chosen to walk away from him and ignore him. However, she made her decision, and pulled Adam in on it as well. Nowhere in the scriptures is it written about Satan trying his sale with Adam, which leads me to believe he went to Eve for distinct reasons.

God's wrath did not exist on this planet until Eve chose to listen to Satan instead of God.

The earth was cursed, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden, and the planet went in the direction of thorns and torment thereafter.

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Yes, I know what the result was-- but you didn't answer my question.

To recap: You believe Eve used her "God-given Free Will" to defy God.

But Adam did not-- in fact, you want us to believe Adam was subject to Eve, and powerless over his decisions (and therefore, not culpable).

lol

That isn't how the story goes. 😉

Posted by scorchedearth
and it doesn't really surprise me that scorpiofish is a nutball jesus freak. 😄

To understand religions with decency and respect does not make one a "Jesus freak."

But you can curse one's knowledge and depth all you wish.

It further proves how hateful and worthless your contributions to the discussion are.

Posted by ellessque
the entire adam and eve story was contrived to oppress women.

all interpreted and written by men.

men needed servants......men needed to keep servants as servants and figured out we could bear them children as well.

what a better form of oppression is that?

answer still stands....religion. since the beginning of time.

Ah, so a general feeling of contempt toward the truth about God and mankind is indeed your problem.

I am sure if Adam read half the stuff you post here, he would have insisted that God not take his rib away.

A proud look
A lying tongue
Hands that shed innocent blood
A heart that devises wicked plots
Feet that are swift to run into mischief
A deceitful witness that uttereth lies
Him that soweth discord among brethren

Wow, I actually know this one female who embodies all 7 of those traits.

Posted by scorchedearth
scorpiofish, unlike you i'm extremely relgiously open minded.

I cannot even read the rest of your post after that ridiculous lie.

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Posted by ScorpioFish
A proud look
A lying tongue
Hands that shed innocent blood
A heart that devises wicked plots
Feet that are swift to run into mischief
A deceitful witness that uttereth lies
Him that soweth discord among brethren

Wow, I actually know this one female who embodies all 7 of those traits.

does her first name start with the letter L?!

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Oddly enough, yes!

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Posted by Nemesis
in fact satan is not even mentioned that often in the bible. satan is an adversary. hence why lawyers get a bad rep these days still hehe. he does play a big role in the revelations of john though.

read the book Job guys.

i wish there was a bible less flowery....

Everyone hates lawyers, until they need one. 😄

Job is incredibly revealing-- though to my understanding, it reveals Satan not as an adversary, but The Adversary.

The premise alone is fascinating.

i was married to one looool. 😄 eternal damnation for me then *shrugs* 😛

yes, THE adversary to be precise. he makes valid points. and for those who don't know, satan is something completely different than lucifer the fallen angel who took 1/3rd of the angels with him during his crash.

is there a bible for dummies? i would def. read that. the bible - which i??ve read partially is incredibly difficult to a.) read and b.) understand and interpret.

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Oh my -- kind of takes the fun out of arguing. o.O

And yes, he did make valid points but still lost the wager (but was it really a wager, etc etc).

As for satan being different than lucifer, I've heard that, but I'm not familiar w/ the reasoning behind it-- is that gnostic?

Posted by scorchedearth
acknowledging that there are hypocrites and religious nutcases of all religions doesn't make you religiously close minded.

a lot of christians think muslims are going to hell just because they're not christians. that's being religiously close minded.

speaking out against the negative religious people is just that.

not all christians are nut ball jesus freaks. just the crazy ones that are likely going to the hell they damn every else to.

It's funny how you cry like a little baby every time I put you in your place.

From your jack-booted militant homosexuality and perversions to your close-minded contempt for Christians to your blatant lies...

...And you are the one telling me there will be fire and brimstone in my environment when I die?

Hey genius, what is your response to muslims who chop people's heads off in Syria for being Christians instead of Muslims?

Where's your outrage on that?

Posted by scorchedearth
i don't have any contempt for christians. i have no problem with any religion. i do have a problem with anyone that acts like their god and thinks that they can judge when only god can. i think people that put themselves up like they're god, meaning those religious people of all kinds that are filled with hate for homosexuals and people not of their religion, are going to be judged harshly when they die.

i don't personally believe in hell because i'm jewish. though i do hope that it exists for those christians/muslims/whoever that try to put themselves in gods place.

homosexuality is a sin the same way eating shellfish is. so if you think i'm going to hell for being gay then billions of people are going to hell for eating shrimp. both are in the bible (well male homosexuality. almost nothing is said about female homosexuality.) so if you believe one, you have to believe the other. you can't cherry pick to accommodate your own biases and hatred.

It's funny how you twist everything around to suit your own agenda, and then lash out at anyone who discusses what is actually written.

Thanks for the laughs.

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Posted by scorchedearth
i don't have any contempt for christians. i have no problem with any religion. i do have a problem with anyone that acts like their god and thinks that they can judge when only god can. i think people that put themselves up like they're god, meaning those religious people of all kinds that are filled with hate for homosexuals and people not of their religion, are going to be judged harshly when they die.

i don't personally believe in hell because i'm jewish. though i do hope that it exists for those christians/muslims/whoever that try to put themselves in gods place.

homosexuality is a sin the same way eating shellfish is. so if you think i'm going to hell for being gay then billions of people are going to hell for eating shrimp. both are in the bible (well male homosexuality. almost nothing is said about female homosexuality.) so if you believe one, you have to believe the other. you can't cherry pick to accommodate your own biases and hatred.

It's funny how you twist everything around to suit your own agenda, and then lash out at anyone who discusses what is actually written.

Thanks for the laughs.

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Oh please-- she's right .

And you have yet to discuss what is "actually written."

Posted by Montgomery
Everyone hates lawyers, until they need one. 😄

I actually love lawyers 'cause I constantly have this guilty conscience but I have no idea what it is that I've supposedly done :-/

Like Joseph K. in Kafka's The Trial. That dude knows he's done something, but instead he's just trollin' the readers. 😛

Posted by Nemesis
monty, here is a quick fix: 🙂 hope you don't me copying and pasting

lucifer
Lucifer, a once arch angel, who was by historical reference called - "Light Bearer." Because of his jealously of god, got cast out of heaven for treason. 1/3 of all angels followed him, and he is a convincing figure. This 1/3 of damned angels actually act on their own volition, but follow Lucifer's beliefs, total chaos. Lucifer, one of the highest angels, fled to earth because he wished to kill jesus 3 times, but failed. He still awaits for judgment day where he will again fail to defeat the pious and faithful, but he will still try.
Lucifer does not wish to be seen, he enjoys people not believing in him, thus the greatest trick he ever pulled.

satan
Christianity's big bad scapegoat/boogieman. Originally a Jewish demon-like character who tested you, but changed into the all-evil devil that Christians blame everything on. Allows for the dismissal of accountability.
OJ: "Satan made me do it!"
Pope: "You are forgiven."

of course this too is debatable. there are voices who claim lucifer and satan are the same.

Thanks 🙂

1-religion
2-capitalism/greed


communism is not even in the top 5

Posted by hydorah
1-religion
2-capitalism/greed


communism is not even in the top 5

Capitalism is an economic system.

Greed can exist in all three of the above, and usually does..

None.


Extremists kill the most people.


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Particularly violent extremists.

Posted by hydorah
1-religion
2-capitalism/greed


communism is not even in the top 5

An estimated 80 million innocent people were murdered during Mao's reign alone.

Pol Pot told his underlings to burn the educated and Christian types alive after they were forced to dig their own mass graves. He did this to conserve his ammunition for the escapees at the gulags, as well as other devious reasons. Some 2 million people estimated murdered in Cambodia alone. Ever hear of The Killing Fields?

Yeah, you're an intellectually honest person to speak with.

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