Advice as to why this is happening.

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Hello all - I am new here and have only come and created an account because I have this question that I can't seem to put out of my mind. Let me start by saying that I am 32, and a scorpio sun/pisces moon.

The question I have is about someone who was/is still? the love of my life, who I lost 2 years ago, but has since returned 4 days ago and I can't let it go - I keep wondering now what will happen between us or what this means.

The story is long but I will give a synopsis here as best I can. If you pisceans could help shed some light on this, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

My ex is a pisces sun/taurus moon. He is 7 years younger than me. Two years ago we were both living overseas when we met (we are both from the USA), and he insisted on dating me even though I thought I was too old for him. Finally I gave in, because I was in love with him and I tired of denying it. We had the most beautiful few months at first, then after I decided to come back to the USA, he decided to follow suit as he was getting out of the military, and would be starting his life from scratch. I knew this would be a difficult time for him, as adjustment is hard, but after we both arrived in the USA and moved in together, he just chaged a lot. He did the typical pisces things that *we* (I am a pisces moon, I get it!) do, like pull away or disappear into another "world" even if he was present physically. Eventually, he decided to take a job overseas again, because he was having such a hard time coping with the readjustment. It was a lot, we were living in a high danger country and working in very difficult and "hot" places - facing bombings and terrorist attacks and refugees pouring in from neighboring countries, then he came back to the quiet life of here, and couldn't take it. So he took that job and left. He told me he had made a mistake, that he didn't have feelings for me, and that he didn't want to be with me, and he left. I was devastated. That was 2 years ago and since then I have moved-on-ish, and dated many new guys and just readjusted my life accordingly. We didn't talk at all, and I told him to not contact me (Scorpio...lol I know I know..)

Fast forward to 4 days ago. he had been on my mind on and off for weeks out of the blue - nothing in particular I could just *feel* his energy and this happens to me a lot. Then on friday out of the blue, he messages me. We small-talked a little at first and it was nice. After a while, we started talking about us, our feelings, and everything and how it had happened between us. In a nutshell, he told me he knew without a doubt that he would see me again. In fact, he was in my city (where I live in the USA) a few months back but hadn't contacted me cause He thought I hated him, even though he wanted to. He told me he was sorry, that he had messed up, that he had been in the wrong state of mind, and he knew now that he had pushed me away. He went on to say that he hadn't even felt the way he did about me about anyone else, and that i was the only person he felt ever understood him. I cried so hard in front of him (this on video chat) and I told him even though he was far away, that I still loved him and even though i had said I hated him it wasn't true, that i really believed he was the one, and that it would be a huge regret if i let go without putting up a fight now. He was quiet. He didn't really reply to all of that only to say it was a lot to take in. Since then he has been chatting me all day everyday on FB messenger. He is still overseas and lives in Asia, so it's pretty far/big time difference. But he also told me that "even though he wished things would have gone differently between us, he wasn't sure that anything had changed and that maybe that would show if he came back." He also said he didn't believe we were a bad fit, just our timing was off. I agree with that, but a small part of me really wishes for it to work anyways. I am willing to make the sacrifice, but I don't know if he is, I have asked him, but he gave me vague piscean answers like, "no one knows the future". He told me he loves me, and we have been talking everyday since that initial contact. Its been 5 days. I am not sure what any of this means!

I don't want to get hurt again. Does he have hope like I do? Or is he just being sentimental, nostalgic pisces??

Help. Thanks in advance my lovely water dwellers 🙂
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UPDATE....

We video-talked today and he told me he has "a friend" in his life there (where he lives). But that its just a mutual friend with benefits kinda thing. He then said he had "a lot to think about". I don't really know what that means... because its not like I said anything about he and i being together the last 5 days... or anything like that, though I think he is thinking about me quite a bit. I have nioticed he texts me the second he wakes up to get ready for work... its been like this the last 5 days. Is he bored over there or is he seriously "considering all of this"? Before you say, ask him, .. let me tell y'all, I have ! He just says "its a lot to consider, and yes, I do think about it and miss you." But he doesn't elaborate. I asked him if he would let me visit him there, and he said yes.

Am I just an ex? Am I "the ex"? IDK... I am scared, because I feel like I have hope and IDK if I want hope. and its only been 5 days.,
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Hell, after reading your post I also feel like this is a lot to consider lol. He sounds like a stereotypical indecisive mutable man. He needs constant stimulation and would be bored with a safe predictable life. The question is, do you like living on the edge? Sounds like that is what it will take to keep things going. Only he knows for certain if he is serious about it. And the fact that he won't give you a straight answer is concerning. I think he sincerely cares about you, but won't give you a straight answer because he's not sure if he can give you something real yet. And he doesn't want to break your heart again. So he's being careful to ensure he doesn't lead you on, and not to commit to too much to soon.
I couldn't have said this any better.

Stay positive but keep your guard up or at least what's left of it.

Pisces are fickle.

Men are fickle.

Love is transient.
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I think he sincerely cares about you, but won't give you a straight answer because he's not sure if he can give you something real yet. And he doesn't want to break your heart again.
Thanks PVJamz, haha! Its true it is a lot to think about. I have also thought about it and realize that nothing can happen now anyways, he is there, I am here and he might come back in 6 months or a year. Who knows. My greatest lesson in life has been that life is weird, and things I never thought would happen do, so hey, I'm just taking it one day at a time and that is hard for Scorpio! I agree wholeheartedly what you said here. It makes sense and I think this is the case. I guess when he left my heart was shattered and I thought I was the only one that cared, now I know that wasn't the case and I feel a huge weight has been lifted and that has given me a lot of peace (and some hope, tbh, but I'm trying hard to dial it down hahaha and as scorp, I am sure as hell not letting it show outwardly! haha!)

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He sounds like a stereotypical indecisive mutable man. He needs constant stimulation and would be bored with a safe predictable life. The question is, do you like living on the edge? Sounds like that is what it will take to keep things going.
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This however, is complicated. I do like that life and I have lived that life for the past 10 years as has he. The irony is that living that life is a double edged sword. Part of you wants to get out of it, whilst part of you doesn't know how to live any other way - hence him freaking out and leaving. For the moment, I need to be here, but that can change in 2 or 3 years (job wise for me). He told me the other night he was thinking of moving to NYC in a year and I laughed and said yea, I have thought about doing the same at times. we were on the video chat and he just kinda smiled and nodded. Then he said, "you're still so beautiful, and I'm sorry, I am still getting used to all this, sorry if I seem shy or uncomfortable, I am not I am just processing everything."
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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...

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This is unforgivable in my book.

"So he took that job and left. He told me he had made a mistake, that he didn't have feelings for me, and that he didn't want to be with me, and he left. I was devastated."

What changed that he won't do that to you again?


Ehh.... I don't wanna split hairs cause I wasn't exactly an angel either at the time. I said some very choice things and gave him a few stings during that time (scorpio!). Like I said, we were both adjusting to life back home, it was a hard time. We actually talked about it a lot this week and both agreed we were both at fault and have since said we were sorry and everything. I saw it as very healing tbh.

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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...


Tbh I think 25 is still young for men. It's still a stage of things falling into place. I'm 26 myself I should know lol

I don't think he's a bad guy but just keep in mind that it might still take years for him to find his footing in life. Think about what you need at this point in your life.
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This is what I said to him verbatim. When he was 21, and 23, and now this week I said it again. The last time I said it (this week) he agreed. When he was younger he didn't. He even said that. He said something to the effect of "I should have been more patient and listened to you, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear, now I see that you might be right and its not a knock on my age, its just you trying to do the right thing."

I mean truthfully, I do not know what will happen nor am I sure of what I want to happen RIGHT NOW. I guess my main reason for posting this is cause I don't understand - as the title says - why this is happening. Karma-wise, astrologically-wise, or from his end-wise? LOL. I don't know. I have been in other relationships but nothing was even close to this in how we seriously just got lost in each other (in a great way not an unhealthy way). I really love him and I did love him, from the moment I saw him. And it wasn't physical. I can't even explain it. I avoided him/avoided showing him I liked him for 18 months because I thought it was nuts. Then one day he came to my door at my apt and said "this is gonna sound crazy, but I wanna be with you. I think you're perfect. It was love at first sight for me." This KILLED ME. I was SHOCKED. I dunno what it all means, - karmically, astrologically, all I know is, I have never experienced that and doubt I ever will again. It was water-person MAGIC between us.

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This is unforgivable in my book.

"So he took that job and left. He told me he had made a mistake, that he didn't have feelings for me, and that he didn't want to be with me, and he left. I was devastated."

What changed that he won't do that to you again?


Ehh.... I don't wanna split hairs cause I wasn't exactly an angel either at the time. I said some very choice things and gave him a few stings during that time (scorpio!). Like I said, we were both adjusting to life back home, it was a hard time. We actually talked about it a lot this week and both agreed we were both at fault and have since said we were sorry and everything. I saw it as very healing tbh.


What changed?

How do you know he won't do that again next week?
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I guess I don't. But its like I said, I mostly just wanna understand what it all means. What changed, ...? I dunno, I mean we both have had nearly two years of no contact to think it over...

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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...


Tbh I think 25 is still young for men. It's still a stage of things falling into place. I'm 26 myself I should know lol

I don't think he's a bad guy but just keep in mind that it might still take years for him to find his footing in life. Think about what you need at this point in your life.
This is what I said to him verbatim. When he was 21, and 23, and now this week I said it again. The last time I said it (this week) he agreed. When he was younger he didn't. He even said that. He said something to the effect of "I should have been more patient and listened to you, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear, now I see that you might be right and its not a knock on my age, its just you trying to do the right thing."

I mean truthfully, I do not know what will happen nor am I sure of what I want to happen RIGHT NOW. I guess my main reason for posting this is cause I don't understand - as the title says - why this is happening. Karma-wise, astrologically-wise, or from his end-wise? LOL. I don't know. I have been in other relationships but nothing was even close to this in how we seriously just got lost in each other (in a great way not an unhealthy way). I really love him and I did love him, from the moment I saw him. And it wasn't physical. I can't even explain it. I avoided him/avoided showing him I liked him for 18 months because I thought it was nuts. Then one day he came to my door at my apt and said "this is gonna sound crazy, but I wanna be with you. I think you're perfect. It was love at first sight for me." This KILLED ME. I was SHOCKED. I dunno what it all means, - karmically, astrologically, all I know is, I have never experienced that and doubt I ever will again. It was water-person MAGIC between us.


It's not karma. He's just an immature butthole.
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NO it's you who is a butthole!

Bitter, salty and angry at the world for being a loser!!!
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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...


Tbh I think 25 is still young for men. It's still a stage of things falling into place. I'm 26 myself I should know lol

I don't think he's a bad guy but just keep in mind that it might still take years for him to find his footing in life. Think about what you need at this point in your life.
This is what I said to him verbatim. When he was 21, and 23, and now this week I said it again. The last time I said it (this week) he agreed. When he was younger he didn't. He even said that. He said something to the effect of "I should have been more patient and listened to you, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear, now I see that you might be right and its not a knock on my age, its just you trying to do the right thing."

I mean truthfully, I do not know what will happen nor am I sure of what I want to happen RIGHT NOW. I guess my main reason for posting this is cause I don't understand - as the title says - why this is happening. Karma-wise, astrologically-wise, or from his end-wise? LOL. I don't know. I have been in other relationships but nothing was even close to this in how we seriously just got lost in each other (in a great way not an unhealthy way). I really love him and I did love him, from the moment I saw him. And it wasn't physical. I can't even explain it. I avoided him/avoided showing him I liked him for 18 months because I thought it was nuts. Then one day he came to my door at my apt and said "this is gonna sound crazy, but I wanna be with you. I think you're perfect. It was love at first sight for me." This KILLED ME. I was SHOCKED. I dunno what it all means, - karmically, astrologically, all I know is, I have never experienced that and doubt I ever will again. It was water-person MAGIC between us.


It's not karma. He's just an immature butthole.
NO it's you who is a butthole!

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LOL.

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Oh and since this is an astro forum - I should detail this for y'all:

His sun (Pisces) conjunct my moon (Pisces)

His sun (Pisces) trine my sun (Scorpio)

His moon (Taurus) conjunct my NN (Taurus)

His mars (Aq) square my sun and SN (Scorpio)

His pluto conjunct my SN and sun... (Scorpio)

I believe that the pluto aspect was what caused all of this - the attraction, the obsession, the destruction, lol.

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Your melodrama is too much .... you're sappy and emotionally needy.

That's a turn off. You asked why it's happening, and there you have it.

I mean, full on crying in front of him on video chat? wtf?



If you have no clue how insufferable that is, then there is nothing anyone can tell you because you will refuse any words you don't to hear. Even when someone mentioned not to do that again ... you told them that you didn't do it, even though you had already testified to doing it.



so, if you cannot own yourself, and your own words and actions ... then this Fish will likely play you like a fiddle ... because you're easy to do it to.

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This is unforgivable in my book.

"So he took that job and left. He told me he had made a mistake, that he didn't have feelings for me, and that he didn't want to be with me, and he left. I was devastated."

What changed that he won't do that to you again?


Ehh.... I don't wanna split hairs cause I wasn't exactly an angel either at the time. I said some very choice things and gave him a few stings during that time (scorpio!). Like I said, we were both adjusting to life back home, it was a hard time. We actually talked about it a lot this week and both agreed we were both at fault and have since said we were sorry and everything. I saw it as very healing tbh.


What changed?

How do you know he won't do that again next week?
I guess I don't. But its like I said, I mostly just wanna understand what it all means. What changed, ...? I dunno, I mean we both have had nearly two years of no contact to think it over...

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Don't listen to Max!

His life sucks because he can't love.

So everyone here who is in love are buttholes and stupid idiots for him!

To your question...I can understand and totally relate. I had someone who loves me who was 7 years younger. He is still not married and keeps inviting me to visit him in Italy. Lol

I had met someone and as you said - it wasn't physical - it was a lightening that hit me on the spot and since then I am thinking about him 24/7 every living moment. It's a sweet torture. So I understand your feelings.

Mess that had happenned I would attribute to age difference and the fact that you are back talking and still have feelings for each other is a clear indication that you do have that connection and if it had not faded - you need to work on it.

Yes he wants to be with you but he is still young and inexperienced. And far away.

So as a more mature person and a woman - it's in your hands to make it work.

Listen to him. Watch his body language.

Ask questions. And keep posting.

Not everyone here are assholes. Never mind those who are. Just forgive them and pray so they find love and become human.

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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...


Tbh I think 25 is still young for men. It's still a stage of things falling into place. I'm 26 myself I should know lol

I don't think he's a bad guy but just keep in mind that it might still take years for him to find his footing in life. Think about what you need at this point in your life.
This is what I said to him verbatim. When he was 21, and 23, and now this week I said it again. The last time I said it (this week) he agreed. When he was younger he didn't. He even said that. He said something to the effect of "I should have been more patient and listened to you, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear, now I see that you might be right and its not a knock on my age, its just you trying to do the right thing."

I mean truthfully, I do not know what will happen nor am I sure of what I want to happen RIGHT NOW. I guess my main reason for posting this is cause I don't understand - as the title says - why this is happening. Karma-wise, astrologically-wise, or from his end-wise? LOL. I don't know. I have been in other relationships but nothing was even close to this in how we seriously just got lost in each other (in a great way not an unhealthy way). I really love him and I did love him, from the moment I saw him. And it wasn't physical. I can't even explain it. I avoided him/avoided showing him I liked him for 18 months because I thought it was nuts. Then one day he came to my door at my apt and said "this is gonna sound crazy, but I wanna be with you. I think you're perfect. It was love at first sight for me." This KILLED ME. I was SHOCKED. I dunno what it all means, - karmically, astrologically, all I know is, I have never experienced that and doubt I ever will again. It was water-person MAGIC between us.


It's not karma. He's just an immature butthole.
NO it's you who is a butthole!

Bitter, salty and angry at the world for being a loser!!!
Good morning, Gemi. Missed ya!

I'm trying to help this woman out. If she falls for this jackass again, he's gonna leave her again.

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Why is he a butthole? And she is not falling for him. She fell ages ago. And she can't fall out! So what are you doing 'helping'...

She is hurt as we speak! He is giving her hope and he might just have realized he needs her! Who ta heck are you to 'protect' stranger women from love?

Go get on your Taurus. Give her some 'protection'...
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Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.


It wasn't with no notice. I was mad at the time, and he was acting flighty (fish), and he said he was thinking of taking this job and wanted to know if I would come with or if I would date him long distance. He wanted to make some money, and he said he would come back in a year. (the job paid over 150K just for one year).

I got mad/felt slighted and abandoned and told him if he went, he went for good and to not look back. Like I said, choice things were done and said that I regret ....and now he is saying he regrets them too.

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Tearing up isn't the same as crying hard.

You have attempted to backpedal here ... when you stated you cried hard, you were definitely implying a deep, hard and wrenching cry, then you come back and try to state you just meant any ole cry.



Again ... if you can't own your own words and actions, then you're an easy target to get manipulated.



You may not like what I'm telling you, but, I'm being completely honest with you. He's using you. He is in need of something .. and he knows you're a sucker for him.



And of course he teared up, he's playing a role. And here you are trying to make it seem like he cries for you because you are in a hard cry ... inside, he was probably ready to vomit, like most men.



don't ever cry like that in front of a guy who isn't invested in you ....
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Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.


It wasn't with no notice. I was mad at the time, and he was acting flighty (fish), and he said he was thinking of taking this job and wanted to know if I would come with or if I would date him long distance. He wanted to make some money, and he said he would come back in a year. (the job paid over 150K just for one year).

I got mad/felt slighted and abandoned and told him if he went, he went for good and to not look back. Like I said, choice things were done and said that I regret ....and now he is saying he regrets them too.

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Either your story keeps changing ... or once someone says something contrary to what you want to hear, you add more to it.

You're losing credibility .... fast
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Tearing up isn't the same as crying hard.

You have attempted to backpedal here ... when you stated you cried hard, you were definitely implying a deep, hard and wrenching cry, then you come back and try to state you just meant any ole cry.



Again ... if you can't own your own words and actions, then you're an easy target to get manipulated.



You may not like what I'm telling you, but, I'm being completely honest with you. He's using you. He is in need of something .. and he knows you're a sucker for him.



And of course he teared up, he's playing a role. And here you are trying to make it seem like he cries for you because you are in a hard cry ... inside, he was probably ready to vomit, like most men.



don't ever cry like that in front of a guy who isn't invested in you ....
Wow you are a very unhappy person, I am sorry to hear that 😢 You obviously have a lot of trust issues and feel no one is ever telling the truth. LOL

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Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.


It wasn't with no notice. I was mad at the time, and he was acting flighty (fish), and he said he was thinking of taking this job and wanted to know if I would come with or if I would date him long distance. He wanted to make some money, and he said he would come back in a year. (the job paid over 150K just for one year).

I got mad/felt slighted and abandoned and told him if he went, he went for good and to not look back. Like I said, choice things were done and said that I regret ....and now he is saying he regrets them too.






Either your story keeps changing ... or once someone says something contrary to what you want to hear, you add more to it.

You're losing credibility .... fast
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I said it was a long story - of course I will add more, its a long story LOL!

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Tearing up isn't the same as crying hard.

You have attempted to backpedal here ... when you stated you cried hard, you were definitely implying a deep, hard and wrenching cry, then you come back and try to state you just meant any ole cry.



Again ... if you can't own your own words and actions, then you're an easy target to get manipulated.



You may not like what I'm telling you, but, I'm being completely honest with you. He's using you. He is in need of something .. and he knows you're a sucker for him.



And of course he teared up, he's playing a role. And here you are trying to make it seem like he cries for you because you are in a hard cry ... inside, he was probably ready to vomit, like most men.



don't ever cry like that in front of a guy who isn't invested in you ....
Wow you are a very unhappy person, I am sorry to hear that 😢 You obviously have a lot of trust issues and feel no one is ever telling the truth. LOL

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so, now you're resorting to trying to divert the attention off of yourself when the truth smacks you in the face.

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Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.


It wasn't with no notice. I was mad at the time, and he was acting flighty (fish), and he said he was thinking of taking this job and wanted to know if I would come with or if I would date him long distance. He wanted to make some money, and he said he would come back in a year. (the job paid over 150K just for one year).

I got mad/felt slighted and abandoned and told him if he went, he went for good and to not look back. Like I said, choice things were done and said that I regret ....and now he is saying he regrets them too.






Either your story keeps changing ... or once someone says something contrary to what you want to hear, you add more to it.

You're losing credibility .... fast
It's a bullshit story, I'd bet. Like more than half the little fictions that get spun around here.
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And Scorpios are notorious for it. Most everything they say about their relationships is fabricated to an extent, so that their shit appears to smell like roses.

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Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.


It wasn't with no notice. I was mad at the time, and he was acting flighty (fish), and he said he was thinking of taking this job and wanted to know if I would come with or if I would date him long distance. He wanted to make some money, and he said he would come back in a year. (the job paid over 150K just for one year).

I got mad/felt slighted and abandoned and told him if he went, he went for good and to not look back. Like I said, choice things were done and said that I regret ....and now he is saying he regrets them too.






Either your story keeps changing ... or once someone says something contrary to what you want to hear, you add more to it.

You're losing credibility .... fast
I said it was a long story - of course I will add more, its a long story LOL!

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What you are adding, though, are excuses and reasons to justify why he treated you like a piece of shit.

lol back at you, since you think it's cute that you're being used.
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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...


Tbh I think 25 is still young for men. It's still a stage of things falling into place. I'm 26 myself I should know lol

I don't think he's a bad guy but just keep in mind that it might still take years for him to find his footing in life. Think about what you need at this point in your life.
This is what I said to him verbatim. When he was 21, and 23, and now this week I said it again. The last time I said it (this week) he agreed. When he was younger he didn't. He even said that. He said something to the effect of "I should have been more patient and listened to you, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear, now I see that you might be right and its not a knock on my age, its just you trying to do the right thing."

I mean truthfully, I do not know what will happen nor am I sure of what I want to happen RIGHT NOW. I guess my main reason for posting this is cause I don't understand - as the title says - why this is happening. Karma-wise, astrologically-wise, or from his end-wise? LOL. I don't know. I have been in other relationships but nothing was even close to this in how we seriously just got lost in each other (in a great way not an unhealthy way). I really love him and I did love him, from the moment I saw him. And it wasn't physical. I can't even explain it. I avoided him/avoided showing him I liked him for 18 months because I thought it was nuts. Then one day he came to my door at my apt and said "this is gonna sound crazy, but I wanna be with you. I think you're perfect. It was love at first sight for me." This KILLED ME. I was SHOCKED. I dunno what it all means, - karmically, astrologically, all I know is, I have never experienced that and doubt I ever will again. It was water-person MAGIC between us.


It's not karma. He's just an immature butthole.
NO it's you who is a butthole!

Bitter, salty and angry at the world for being a loser!!!
Good morning, Gemi. Missed ya!

I'm trying to help this woman out. If she falls for this jackass again, he's gonna leave her again.


Why is he a butthole? And she is not falling for him. She fell ages ago. And she can't fall out! So what are you doing 'helping'...

She is hurt as we speak! He is giving her hope and he might just have realized he needs her! Who ta heck are you to 'protect' stranger women from love?

Go get on your Taurus. Give her some 'protection'...
Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.

My Taurus is at work behind a locked door. She's fine.
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I liked 'behind the locked door' comment.

Sounds weird and creepy!

And FYI he WAS a child! A child who had experienced huge love and haven't deal with it well. Growing up he haven't lost it!

Why THIS fact doesn't tell you anything?
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I think the age difference is playing in here a lot more than anything else.

How old was he when he met you?


He was 21 and I was 29. I REFUSED to entertain the idea for an entire year because I thought it was crazy. I am not an irrational person, and the age difference concerned me. Finally when I was 30 and he was (22 just turned 23) I gave in cause he just didn't give up. I had never seen any one so sure of anything in their life! Now he is 25 and I am 32. I have noticed in our recent convos he is more mature, but yea, I mean I remember myself at 25. I get it. I know I have changed and I know how I have changed and I told him that too - that maybe things would be better if this came together later...


Tbh I think 25 is still young for men. It's still a stage of things falling into place. I'm 26 myself I should know lol

I don't think he's a bad guy but just keep in mind that it might still take years for him to find his footing in life. Think about what you need at this point in your life.
This is what I said to him verbatim. When he was 21, and 23, and now this week I said it again. The last time I said it (this week) he agreed. When he was younger he didn't. He even said that. He said something to the effect of "I should have been more patient and listened to you, even when it wasn't what I wanted to hear, now I see that you might be right and its not a knock on my age, its just you trying to do the right thing."

I mean truthfully, I do not know what will happen nor am I sure of what I want to happen RIGHT NOW. I guess my main reason for posting this is cause I don't understand - as the title says - why this is happening. Karma-wise, astrologically-wise, or from his end-wise? LOL. I don't know. I have been in other relationships but nothing was even close to this in how we seriously just got lost in each other (in a great way not an unhealthy way). I really love him and I did love him, from the moment I saw him. And it wasn't physical. I can't even explain it. I avoided him/avoided showing him I liked him for 18 months because I thought it was nuts. Then one day he came to my door at my apt and said "this is gonna sound crazy, but I wanna be with you. I think you're perfect. It was love at first sight for me." This KILLED ME. I was SHOCKED. I dunno what it all means, - karmically, astrologically, all I know is, I have never experienced that and doubt I ever will again. It was water-person MAGIC between us.


It's not karma. He's just an immature butthole.
NO it's you who is a butthole!

Bitter, salty and angry at the world for being a loser!!!
Good morning, Gemi. Missed ya!

I'm trying to help this woman out. If she falls for this jackass again, he's gonna leave her again.


Why is he a butthole? And she is not falling for him. She fell ages ago. And she can't fall out! So what are you doing 'helping'...

She is hurt as we speak! He is giving her hope and he might just have realized he needs her! Who ta heck are you to 'protect' stranger women from love?

Go get on your Taurus. Give her some 'protection'...
Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.

My Taurus is at work behind a locked door. She's fine.
I liked 'behind the locked door' comment.

Sounds weird and creepy!

And FYI he WAS a child! A child who had experienced huge love and haven't deal with it well. Growing up he haven't lost it!

Why THIS fact doesn't tell you anything?
Listen up, you delusional, insane, shit-talking, cheating whore, this is the last response you're getting from me.

My wife is a professional for a fat company that has key cards to get in the door, as do most companies. You clearly know nothing about the world of professional work.

This "child" is a grown man. I have no pity for him, but I also have no pity for OP, now that I see she wants to get walked on for the sake of her BIG MAGICAL LOVE! Everyone feels that, morons. It's called infatuation.
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So you are a kept man??
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Because he cruelly abandoned her with no notice. Told her he had lied and didn't feel any of the things he originally told her he felt. Took it all back like a child. And now he's back with no explanation for how he won't do that again.


It wasn't with no notice. I was mad at the time, and he was acting flighty (fish), and he said he was thinking of taking this job and wanted to know if I would come with or if I would date him long distance. He wanted to make some money, and he said he would come back in a year. (the job paid over 150K just for one year).

I got mad/felt slighted and abandoned and told him if he went, he went for good and to not look back. Like I said, choice things were done and said that I regret ....and now he is saying he regrets them too.






Either your story keeps changing ... or once someone says something contrary to what you want to hear, you add more to it.

You're losing credibility .... fast
It's a bullshit story, I'd bet. Like more than half the little fictions that get spun around here.
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Max are you an impotent?

Who stays home and entertain himself by talking to women in love problems?

Isn't there things to do, places to see?

Dinner to cook? House to clean?

What's your pleasure IF you are a man to do all this commenting here? Don't you have friends? Wtf man—
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Update: It is now day 7 of all of this, and he is now opening up to me telling me that "he never had the feelings he had for me for anyone else." he is also saying he wishes things would have gone differently between us and he has a lot of regret over this. I just said back, I mean honestly what can be done over all this? Nothing is really any different, you are there, I am here...etc. We are still talking everyday, but has agreed to wait it out and see what happens over the next few months and if and when he comes back in 6 months - we will see. Just for the record - he has been just as sappy as I have folks, its all been very strange but good.
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Have patience .. don't spill your feelings too much anymore
Well, let me ask why?

**Previously I didn't tell any of my feelings to him (when we were living together) and when we broke up I was indifferent and cold ... scorpio style , so I felt it was time to be straight now ... expecially since there was nothing to lose. ...

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Why? Because u already did this time around with him .. no need to spill anymore .. it will just end up smothering him
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Have patience .. don't spill your feelings too much anymore
Well, let me ask why?

**Previously I didn't tell any of my feelings to him (when we were living together) and when we broke up I was indifferent and cold ... scorpio style , so I felt it was time to be straight now ... expecially since there was nothing to lose. ...


Why? Because u already did this time around with him .. no need to spill anymore .. it will just end up smothering him
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You are so right. I agree because I also would react feeling smothered if it were me, even if I did have feelings for the person, lol.

For now we have just been talking about everyday stuff - he is pretty consistently messaging me though. Its going well, and I am not - contrary to how it may seem - obsessing over it, I'm actually obsessing more about work right now haha.

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He wouldn't have left if he "never had the feelings he had for me for anyone else".

But take that with a grain of salt because I'm a Virgo.
One would agree with this in theory - however - I did this same thing, moved away to another country and left someone I truly loved with all my heart - cause I really felt I needed to do it. This was when I was 24! So...yea... I get it.

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Hello all - I am new here and have only come and created an account because I have this question that I can't seem to put out of my mind. Let me start by saying that I am 32, and a scorpio sun/pisces moon.

The question I have is about someone who was/is still? the love of my life, who I lost 2 years ago, but has since returned 4 days ago and I can't let it go - I keep wondering now what will happen between us or what this means.

The story is long but I will give a synopsis here as best I can. If you pisceans could help shed some light on this, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

My ex is a pisces sun/taurus moon. He is 7 years younger than me. Two years ago we were both living overseas when we met (we are both from the USA), and he insisted on dating me even though I thought I was too old for him. Finally I gave in, because I was in love with him and I tired of denying it. We had the most beautiful few months at first, then after I decided to come back to the USA, he decided to follow suit as he was getting out of the military, and would be starting his life from scratch. I knew this would be a difficult time for him, as adjustment is hard, but after we both arrived in the USA and moved in together, he just chaged a lot. He did the typical pisces things that *we* (I am a pisces moon, I get it!) do, like pull away or disappear into another "world" even if he was present physically. Eventually, he decided to take a job overseas again, because he was having such a hard time coping with the readjustment. It was a lot, we were living in a high danger country and working in very difficult and "hot" places - facing bombings and terrorist attacks and refugees pouring in from neighboring countries, then he came back to the quiet life of here, and couldn't take it. So he took that job and left. He told me he had made a mistake, that he didn't have feelings for me, and that he didn't want to be with me, and he left. I was devastated. That was 2 years ago and since then I have moved-on-ish, and dated many new guys and just readjusted my life accordingly. We didn't talk at all, and I told him to not contact me (Scorpio...lol I know I know..)

Fast forward to 4 days ago. he had been on my mind on and off for weeks out of the blue - nothing in particular I could just *feel* his energy and this happens to me a lot. Then on friday out of the blue, he messages me. We small-talked a little at first and it was nice. After a while, we started talking about us, our feelings, and everything and how it had happened between us. In a nutshell, he told me he knew without a doubt that he would see me again. In fact, he was in my city (where I live in the USA) a few months back but hadn't contacted me cause He thought I hated him, even though he wanted to. He told me he was sorry, that he had messed up, that he had been in the wrong state of mind, and he knew now that he had pushed me away. He went on to say that he hadn't even felt the way he did about me about anyone else, and that i was the only person he felt ever understood him. I cried so hard in front of him (this on video chat) and I told him even though he was far away, that I still loved him and even though i had said I hated him it wasn't true, that i really believed he was the one, and that it would be a huge regret if i let go without putting up a fight now. He was quiet. He didn't really reply to all of that only to say it was a lot to take in. Since then he has been chatting me all day everyday on FB messenger. He is still overseas and lives in Asia, so it's pretty far/big time difference. But he also told me that "even though he wished things would have gone differently between us, he wasn't sure that anything had changed and that maybe that would show if he came back." He also said he didn't believe we were a bad fit, just our timing was off. I agree with that, but a small part of me really wishes for it to work anyways. I am willing to make the sacrifice, but I don't know if he is, I have asked him, but he gave me vague piscean answers like, "no one knows the future". He told me he loves me, and we have been talking everyday since that initial contact. Its been 5 days. I am not sure what any of this means!

I don't want to get hurt again. Does he have hope like I do? Or is he just being sentimental, nostalgic pisces??

Help. Thanks in advance my lovely water dwellers 🙂
I am Piscean. Let me tell you something; WE ARE ON A DRY SPELL (Pisceans), dating scene, go to clubs (three different ones; and no man asks me to dance), not attracting the opposite sex, going on-line (dating sites) and STRIKING ZERO, etc. I can honestly say I can go naked as a jay-bird to the club and no man will notice me/us. I AM BEING SARCASTIC as I'm "famous" for that since I LOVE proving a point...now you got that, can you imagine what HE is going thru? I mean, it hasn't been hours, days, or minutes; it's been a "dry spell" for 15 months!!!! Last bf I had (Saggy) I dissed him in February 2016. Yeah, I've had "dates", kiss them good-bye and they expect sex from me. Not! I don't hear from them EVER again. Please don't ask where my moon, Venus, and such are (you can read that below my name EvatheDiva). Now, back to my thoughts on this. He's in a dry spell, he's lonely, he cannot attract the opposite sex. MAYBE he's on dating sites and batting ZERO; maybe he goes to the clubs and is batting ZERO; yeah, we (Pisceans) are questioning ourselves, "What the HELL is the matter with me?" (Pisceans ONLY!). He's thinking, feeling, going thru the same damn thing as I am. He KNOWS who to go to...you! He knows he can smile at you, talk that sweet talk to you, hear what you want to hear to get you back on his "web" (he's the spider).

Scorpio, do you remember how you felt when he told you, "I don't love you anymore; this was a mistake, I want to go back to (such and such a place), etc? Don't you feel 1) let down 2) embarrassed 3) unwanted 4) unloved 5) deflated like a balloon? I would (do for you). Do you want him to do this to you again? Yeah, I believe in forgiveness; but until he does what? 1) surprise you that he fathered a child? 2) tells you he filed for bankruptcy? 3) tells you he's gay? He's young. Scorpios FALL for "younger" men as yourself. My ex-bf was Scorpio and four years younger than me. I would NOT have contacted him at all. You've let the door be "ajar" and he wants to completely walk right back in your life. My gut feeling is that he's broke. Your call if you want to take him back. If you're as lonely as he is; so be it!

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: I have said it again and again, I am Piscean, and according to Froggie (here at DXP); she read my birth chart and informed me: "Despite your Pisces placements, the planetary placements show someone who will put out their wishes ahead of other things and won't be remorseful of cutting ties. You can be stubborn about things that matters to you... And you also have the ability to go after what you want." I will NOT go after a man that used those same words that you informed us here he said to you in order to "cut ties" with you. I, being Piscean, do not stay where I'm not wanted. Good luck w/your decision.



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Have patience .. don't spill your feelings too much anymore
Well, let me ask why?

**Previously I didn't tell any of my feelings to him (when we were living together) and when we broke up I was indifferent and cold ... scorpio style , so I felt it was time to be straight now ... expecially since there was nothing to lose. ...


Why? Because u already did this time around with him .. no need to spill anymore .. it will just end up smothering him
You are so right. I agree because I also would react feeling smothered if it were me, even if I did have feelings for the person, lol.

For now we have just been talking about everyday stuff - he is pretty consistently messaging me though. Its going well, and I am not - contrary to how it may seem - obsessing over it, I'm actually obsessing more about work right now haha.

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Yea I'm a Pisces moon , I know how it can be when you're really into someone lol