Does anyone..

This topic was created in the Pisces forum by Lebanese-Princess on Monday, August 9, 2010 and has 19 replies.

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@Pisces2202
16 Years500+ PostsPisces

Doormats as in we're easily walked over? Well i know I was in the past, but I became assertive more, and now I think I'm quite strong. I just want to take care of people and they an take advantage of it.

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Lebanese-Princess .... always remember ... it takes a stronger person to walk away.

Fighting is easy .. to give in to the fight, the argument, the negative is one of the easiest things in life to do .. we humans come by it naturally.

To take the high road, to turn the other cheek and walk away from confrontation is hard and takes a lot of courage.

The weak person is the one standing there, with emotions so out of control that alls they can do is blabber on, bitching because they cannot stop themselves.

To answer your question .. no .. I don't get offended because I know it's not true, and trust me, the people in my life know I am far from weak .. mentally, physically or emotionally. And I doubt you are weak .. in fact, you said that you remain silent rather than lash out at someone because they might get hurt ~ that makes you strong, not weak.

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

As far as being a doormat .. that doesnt' really come from what you described about speaking your mind, or not .. that reputation comes from when we have our dumbass attacks and think we are suppose to go save somebody who never asked us to, and in so doing, we set ourselves up to get used, bad sometimes, and still ... we see the person as being in need and actually take their shit.

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

And no, I don't get offended when people see us as doormats ... because if they have seen one of us do that, and we all have at some point .. then we are doormats at that moment, so there's no need to be offended if it's the truth.

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@Lebanese-Princess
16 Years

Lol prince_pisces.. I like a person with confidence. =) P-Angel.. I decide to walk away from people because aside from being an emotional pisces, I also have Bipolar Disorder which really doesnt help. But you're right.. it takes alot of courage to do that but unfortunately some people think it's a sign of weakness... Thanks for replying everyone. I appreciate it =)

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@tubbyscubby
16 Years5,000+ Posts

My "pisces" bff found her voice yesterday. For nearly 8 years she shelved her personal desires/aspirations in favor of her biological family. As the oldest, she always felt like her parents held her to higher standards than her younger pisces sibling (really downstream). She was used in so many ways...primarily financially and where her personal sacrifice was noble, I have repeatedly told her...

"You can't do this forever! How are you going to maintain two homes when you have kids and what man is going to accept your taking from him and your kids to keep grown ass people afloat?"

I joked (was serious) that one day she was going to come home, grab a bag, stuff some shit into it and on her way out go up to each of them, smile and say, "FUCK YOU...FUCK YOU...OH AND REALLY FUCK YOU." Then leave and not look back for years. Her family would be dumbfounded because she never really expressed the fact (not pointedly) that she felt used and unappreciated.

I've also noticed that the only way she stops, changes and let's go of something she's emotionally invested in or that is "easy" because it's familiar is if there's a sledgehammer swung by god/fate. She won't make the difficult decision. They're made for her. She finally accepts when resistance is undeniably futile.

Point: Emotional martyring is so her and where she's not "weak," her capacity for and depth of suffering is deep and strong. I think some of you do put up with too much and to the those that might use you, you're doormats.

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@ScorpDragon
16 Years

Posted by Pisco26
Sometimes I get offended because it seems like every astrology book or page always state's that we are weak, emotional, flakey, spendthrift people. I think a lot of those things are based on your uprising- your parents influence. I know I am not weak. In fact most people tell me they admire me for my strength, however, it has been the life I have experienced that has made me the person I am, not my sun sign.

I understand that pisces people often times put thier hands out to those whom they believe are deserving and they do sometimes get taken advantage of but that isn't every pisces person...

I think a lot of pisces have become bitter towards helping or being the temporary "doormat". They become those people who walk this earth ignorant of those in need because they've given to much and got hurt. That's how most of the pisces I've met have been. They are the opposite of a doormat of any sort.

But sometimes a doormat isn't exactly the definition of someone who is walked on or the product you lay outside your door. Sometimes a definition isn't to be taken so literal but more metaphorical. Most pisces are doormats because when we put our hands out to help others, we carry them on our shoulders, let them stand on us. We do what is necessary to help them regardless of how low they bring us. We are the sign of hope. We always hope we can change people for the better, hope that if we spend a little while longer with these people they can do whatever their hearts desire, hope that if we listen they won't run back to their old ways, but the reality of the situation is people will never get better, never change, never try unless they want to themselves... But a pisces person hopes that they can help regardless... there is your doormat.

Well said, Pisco26. I agree with you 100% here...

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@PisceanBiatch
15 YearsPisces

pisces2202, i am very hurt when ppl call us a dorrmat, no... more angry..... i tend to get pissed off very quickly when ppl call me weak and want to show them that i am not a little goldfish but a pirhana!!! i used to b the type to let ppl walk all over me, but i have grown to b quite strong and will not b gentle anymore if someone tries to trod on my toes... that could b just me, i dunno.... best thing i have found is that if u stand up and show ur strong side they will back off... they think that just because we show our more gentle side most of the time that we r easilt taken advantage of and wont care if treated badly...... maybe show them that u r stronger/better/wiser than what they think u r.... might just do the trick!

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@PisceanBiatch
15 YearsPisces

pisces2202, i am very hurt when ppl call us a dorrmat, no... more angry..... i tend to get pissed off very quickly when ppl call me weak and want to show them that i am not a little goldfish but a pirhana!!! i used to b the type to let ppl walk all over me, but i have grown to b quite strong and will not b gentle anymore if someone tries to trod on my toes... that could b just me, i dunno.... best thing i have found is that if u stand up and show ur strong side they will back off... they think that just because we show our more gentle side most of the time that we r easilt taken advantage of and wont care if treated badly...... maybe show them that u r stronger/better/wiser than what they think u r.... might just do the trick!

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@catfish36
20 Years500+ Posts

Hi All,
I am a returning Pisces board member to dxpnet.

We're emotional and compassionate people, which is often interpreted as being week. Do I get offended? No. It's pointless to get offended. I am one of the most resilient people I know but life has been a hard task-master at times so I've grown from each experience. Nothing, and I am mean nothing and no one will ever keep me down. I will go somewhere to lick my wounds then come out swinging.

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@tron612
15 Years

Posted by PisceanBiatch
pisces2202, i am very hurt when ppl call us a dorrmat, no... more angry..... i tend to get pissed off very quickly when ppl call me weak and want to show them that i am not a little goldfish but a pirhana!!! i used to b the type to let ppl walk all over me, but i have grown to b quite strong and will not b gentle anymore if someone tries to trod on my toes... that could b just me, i dunno.... best thing i have found is that if u stand up and show ur strong side they will back off... they think that just because we show our more gentle side most of the time that we r easilt taken advantage of and wont care if treated badly...... maybe show them that u r stronger/better/wiser than what they think u r.... might just do the trick!

I feel like a doormat all the time at work, Im constantly being taken advantage of, one guys seems to just talk all day long while his work suffers and of course like the doormat I am I simply just go and do the work he is supposed to be doing, i suppose I am just weak I tell myself I won't help him but of course I seem to always end up doing so, I wish they would just FIRE him He's so lazy im so fed up and I don't know what to do because the uppers have been told about it
and yet they do nothing. So enough bout that. This is also true of my family members, one of my brothers said that they wanted to buy a car from me so I agreed and to this day have only received $ 40.00 from them and I only asked them to pay me $ 250.00 for the car I know its family, the car itself is worth $ 2500.00 so again being taken advantage of he said to me a couple days ago he doesn't remember how much he owes so I wrote it down and gave it to him and he looked at me and said I thought you said $ 150.00 can you beleive that so I have rented a trailer and am on my way to go pick up the car and well post it for sale, but before I do I have to make sure he hasn't ruined the car and dropped the value of the car I mean Im sure its dropped as car values depreciate quickly but im talking about other stuff like damages and stuff, I wish I was not so weak and could just take a stand against all these things that scream at me your a Weak Pisces!

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@michaelfish
15 YearsTaurus

I can be a doormat. But some people think i'm more like a warm blanket 😛

The truth is i'm actually stubborn as a mule, and extremely combative...if you keep pushing.

People who think we're just pushovers are usually the ones who don't realise there's more than one way to reach a goal, and that not everything is black and white.

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@seadream
16 Years

I can be a doormat. But some people think i'm more like a warm blanket

The truth is i'm actually stubborn as a mule, and extremely combative...if you keep pushing.

People who think we're just pushovers are usually the ones who don't realise there's more than one way to reach a goal, and that not everything is black and white.

^^^ = me

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@dblfisch
15 Years

they just don't understand what 'weak' and ' strong' really mean. i know i'm a lot more resilient and stronger than people perceive me to be so i just think they're dumb if they believe i'm weak-i can do a lot more things quietly than if i lost my temper

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@neptune0313
15 Years

Amen Dreamer23 It amazes me that people mistake kindness for weakness.I don't like drama so I prefer to go with the flow but,if anyone thinks that makes me weak they are in for a rude awakening.I feel that for the most part Pisces are misunderstood because we are so complex.