Fishy Wishy Washy Pisces Man

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Hi peeps, me again, continuing my dating struggles.

Met a Pisces man 2 weeks ago, with whom i was speaking for months (on and off, him initiating convos). When we couldn't get on and set a date (one of us was always busy) i ended up telling him i'm tired of texts tennis and want him to take me out, after which he got really excited and we went ahead with a date. We had dinner and drinks which was awkward at first but after some time we couldn't stop giggling and making each other uncomfortable in a teasing way.

After that we decided to get some chocolate and when the waiter only brought one spoon we ended up feeding each other and there was chemistry all round. It was a super cute and fun date with lots of hints from him for the next. Sealed with a kiss and "i'll contact you" from him, which he did on the same night and the next morning.

From there it feels like there's been a texting game with him holding out longer than me, me at times texting first and him asking me out the second time, but postponing as i was away and then him telling me i should be ready for a great second date upon my return.

Upon my return i waited 2 days and asked him how he was, he replied almost instantly and so i did i with the convo dying afterwards.

I'm not against waiting for someone who is busy, but this guy is a bit hot n cold which frustrates me. When i want to see someone and i have chemistry i want to explore it. He seemed fascinated with me but i feel like he's wasting my time.

Any thoughts on what this is, strategy or just lack of interest and how to deal with it?

xx

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He possibly feels he's falling too hard too fast, so he's constantly analyzing and reanalyzing all possible outcomes in his head.

If he's too wishy washy, he probably has strong Libra/Gemini influences because they tend to be the wishy-washiest of all. You need to sit him down for a serious talk......and keep him down long enough to have yourself heard out. Lay the cards on the table and say "this is what I want. What do YOU want?"

If he doesn't get it then.........you're better off hiring a hooker.
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We are very emotional people. Empathic and sensitive, we tend to experience feelings in their amplified versions. It's a very scary thing, and more sensitive Fishies can't handle it. Emotion overload.

I'm lucky my Virgo moon keeps my emotions in check, and my Mercury/Venus/Mars in Aries makes me more straightforward in what I want. Too bad I can't have the only person I want. But that's a different story.
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Posted by RemixGeneralFishy
He possibly feels he's falling too hard too fast, so he's constantly analyzing and reanalyzing all possible outcomes in his head.

If he's too wishy washy, he probably has strong Libra/Gemini influences because they tend to be the wishy-washiest of all. You need to sit him down for a serious talk......and keep him down long enough to have yourself heard out. Lay the cards on the table and say "this is what I want. What do YOU want?"

If he doesn't get it then.........you're better off hiring a hooker.
This. Lol at least with the falling too fast & sitting him down. I've done that before and I was afraid of losing myself to the other person. hopefully he's honorable and doesn't seek other people (aka not a player), which in that case back off a little bit; enjoy maybe a couple of days without saying anything to him so that you can let him think. If he's going to make a decision and things are moving too fast, he'll feel pressured into doing it. This happened to me before but I didn't understand what was going on until years later/more experience.

tl;dr: give him some space, go do things YOU enjoy, then text him in like 3 days, and catch up. if you feel like he's still wishy washy, ask him how he's doing, talk to him, etc, but DON'T ask to meet up just yet. It'll show him that you care but are allowing him to have space which he'll appreciate, but also wonder about what you could be doing and it may make him chase you. That's what gets me.
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Thank you urbane101

I just find it hard to go and explore chemistry with someone else when i have clearly felt it with one person and want to explore it.

I did end up messaging him yesterday and he wanted to catch up that night, when i already had plans, so i asked about the weekend and he was busy. I nicely worded that if this goes on i'll start thinking he doesn't want to see me to which he immediately started reassuring me that i'm irresistible and he really want to see me and he's all mine next week. I left it as that and will stay tuned. If nothing happens again it's write off.

I don't really want to be a man in the relationship, i want the man to make things happen! 🙂

Cheerios
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Posted by Gemsgem

him initiating convos

one of us was always busy

We had dinner and drinks ...... couldn't stop giggling and making each other uncomfortable in a teasing way.

After that we decided to

we ended up feeding each other and there was chemistry all round.

Sealed with a kiss and "i'll contact you" from him, which he did on the same night and the next morning.

him asking me out the second time, but postponing as i was away and then him telling me i should be ready for a great second date upon my return.

Upon my return i waited 2 days and asked him how he was, he replied almost instantly

I'm not against waiting for someone who is busy, but this guy is a bit hot n cold which frustrates me.

He seemed fascinated with me but i feel like he's wasting my time.




I have no clue why people are responding you the way they are, as if to justify why the Fish is being wishy washy, when your description of events doesn't convey that at all.

In fact, it's YOU who was busy. There's nothing in what you wrote that even remotely suggests that he's being what you accused him of.

Whereas, you purposely wait days before contacting him .. in which he replies immediately. In fact, he responds back to you within moments of you contacting him, according to you.

In fact, you said he initiates convos.

You said that he asked you out on a second date, in which you were too busy for him ...... and had to cancel.

You seem to be wanting to control the natural process that happens between two people, which according to what you wrote, a whole bunch of good things are happening naturally between the two of you, with chemistry and giggling and dinner together ... but, that doesn't appear to be good enough for you.

You sound like you want a puppet to control, rather than a genuine person .... because the only red flags I see here is you contradicting yourself in saying he's one way, while your description identifies you being the way you don't like.

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Posted by RemixGeneralFishy
He possibly feels he's falling too hard too fast, so he's constantly analyzing and reanalyzing all possible outcomes in his head.

If he's too wishy washy, he probably has strong Libra/Gemini influences because they tend to be the wishy-washiest of all. You need to sit him down for a serious talk......and keep him down long enough to have yourself heard out. Lay the cards on the table and say "this is what I want. What do YOU want?"

If he doesn't get it then.........you're better off hiring a hooker.
This. Lol at least with the falling too fast & sitting him down. I've done that before and I was afraid of losing myself to the other person. hopefully he's honorable and doesn't seek other people (aka not a player), which in that case back off a little bit; enjoy maybe a couple of days without saying anything to him so that you can let him think. If he's going to make a decision and things are moving too fast, he'll feel pressured into doing it. This happened to me before but I didn't understand what was going on until years later/more experience.

tl;dr: give him some space, go do things YOU enjoy, then text him in like 3 days, and catch up. if you feel like he's still wishy washy, ask him how he's doing, talk to him, etc, but DON'T ask to meet up just yet. It'll show him that you care but are allowing him to have space which he'll appreciate, but also wonder about what you could be doing and it may make him chase you. That's what gets me.

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What's wrong with hiring a hooker?
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Posted by Gemsgem

him initiating convos

one of us was always busy

We had dinner and drinks ...... couldn't stop giggling and making each other uncomfortable in a teasing way.

After that we decided to

we ended up feeding each other and there was chemistry all round.

Sealed with a kiss and "i'll contact you" from him, which he did on the same night and the next morning.

him asking me out the second time, but postponing as i was away and then him telling me i should be ready for a great second date upon my return.

Upon my return i waited 2 days and asked him how he was, he replied almost instantly

I'm not against waiting for someone who is busy, but this guy is a bit hot n cold which frustrates me.

He seemed fascinated with me but i feel like he's wasting my time.




I have no clue why people are responding you the way they are, as if to justify why the Fish is being wishy washy, when your description of events doesn't convey that at all.

In fact, it's YOU who was busy. There's nothing in what you wrote that even remotely suggests that he's being what you accused him of.

Whereas, you purposely wait days before contacting him .. in which he replies immediately. In fact, he responds back to you within moments of you contacting him, according to you.

In fact, you said he initiates convos.

You said that he asked you out on a second date, in which you were too busy for him ...... and had to cancel.

You seem to be wanting to control the natural process that happens between two people, which according to what you wrote, a whole bunch of good things are happening naturally between the two of you, with chemistry and giggling and dinner together ... but, that doesn't appear to be good enough for you.

You sound like you want a puppet to control, rather than a genuine person .... because the only red flags I see here is you contradicting yourself in saying he's one way, while your description identifies you being the way you don't like.

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Great job literally taking things our of the context and making me sound like a bad person. Don't want to get into a long discussiom defending myself but I believe you got this all wrong.
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Just ignore p angel ..her job is to do just that. She has no idea whats actually happening....so you've been on one date?? Honestly.....not to be mean but he might not be that into you. If I go on a date there's chemistry hell yea I want more. But if sparks didn't fly, you didn't turn my crank I dont put much effort into it at all. I'm always polite and respond but...id exert a lot more if I was really feeling it....
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Posted by Gemsgem
Great job literally taking things our of the context and making me sound like a bad person. Don't want to get into a long discussiom defending myself but I believe you got this all wrong.
Ignore the granny, she's an established troll. I also suspect she hasn't had sex in 40 years, suffering from critical sperm build-up which makes her uber-salty. Noone's knocking on HER door........
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Hey OP

I don't understand what the confusion is all about.after the date ,he set up another date but didn't happen coz you were busy

then you came back...was he aware of the fact that you came back?

There is no big deal if you have to text him first...text messages are for setting up dates and not for chatting back and forth

the second date didn't happen coz of you...so why not fix a date yourself...just ask him casually if he is free and meet and have face to face conversations

Don't rely on his texting habits

Whatever you wrote, i didn't find any sorta game playin from the guy's part...i guess you are overanalysing

No strategy involved here!!!
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Update to my supporters

After my little blab last week i got a message asking when i'm free so hopefully doing something Friday.

To those not sure what kind of advise i'm after here:

i'm trying to understand how a Piscean's mind normally works and if being a little off and on when messaging/trying to see a girl out is normal. The feeling he gives me is that he's smitten, when he does text or reply to me he uses sweet words and is being cute but the fact he's telling me all this yet isn't trying to pin me down for another date.

Yes i am trying to play the game also because whenever i don't I end up toyed with get someone asking me out last minute when nothing better comes around. The unspoken message is a girl texts first, is available immediately and replies instantly is she have nothing going on for herself and she is clingy, so excuse me for telling him i'm busy because a) i was going to be 700km away b) he asked me at 5pm on the day he suggested we meet when i was going for an appointment.
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Ok....so have you been asked for a date during the past week? It could be he that something put him off.......maybe he thought he was being rejected, not just turned down for a date.

If your instinct is right that he is very much into you, just let him know when you will be available during the next two weeks. Give him like three options to choose from....

You could get an idea about how much initiative he puts into dating by asking him the right questions about previous romantic interests and most importantly, about friendships.

How does he get together with his friends? Is he initiating, inviting, planning, making efforts, or does he like to go with the flow? If he is going with the flow, he will expect to be led in romantic relationships as well....it doesn't make him wishy washy though....there are a plenty of women out there who would prefer to lead!

If he is a follower and you don't want to lead, he's not the right person for you.

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Posted by Gemsgem

Yes i am trying to play the game also because whenever i don't I end up toyed with get someone asking me out last minute when nothing better comes around.






You're not girlfriend material ..... something better is always around the corner.

if you want to be better, then you have to earn it.

You could start by not playing attention games with him



Or, you could just ignore that and continue to wallow in your misery of not being credible enough to be considered.
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Posted by Undine
You could get an idea about how much initiative he puts into dating by asking him the right questions about previous romantic interests and most importantly, about friendships.

How does he get together with his friends? Is he initiating, inviting, planning, making efforts, or does he like to go with the flow? If he is going with the flow, he will expect to be led in romantic relationships as well....it doesn't make him wishy washy though....there are a plenty of women out there who would prefer to lead!

If he is a follower and you don't want to lead, he's not the right person for you.


This is a really good advise thank you🙂
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Ding ding ding!

Update - after a 3 weeks break finally another lovely date.

Played a question answer game with some deep questions and answers. He said if something happens out of the dating experience then great and if not he will just have fun. I'll see if moving forward there's a mental connection as well as physical and see where we go from there. Definitely enjoy being in his company and he makes me act all cute around him.

I've cooked some stuff for work on that day so i brought him a piece of my cake, he looked really touched and it was adorable to watch. Normally i'd think this is too much on date 2 but it seemed appropriate.

Hope i won't wave to basically ask myself out again! if this pattern goes on i'll think he's just fooling around exploring options...

Stay tuned and thanks everyone for your opinions and suggestions.