Pisces male and Leo female ... Mind games!

Hi everybody,

My situation is that I am a leo female (Aug 21) and my pisces guy that I have been dating off and on for a year bday is (Feb 22. Since we met through a guy friend a year ago our relationship has been a rollercoaster ride. I am a very sensitive leo, and I have a lot of cancer and scorpio in my sign as well. My venus is in cancer and moon in scorpio. My pisces guy is always telling me how much he cares about me but I am very confused. I feel as he cares but then he is so aloof at times I just get confused. I realized went he disappears he just needs a couple days of space and he comes back. However, We have been dating for a year now and we just started dating again. He asked me to stop by because it would be nice to see me and i was in his area. I went to visit him at his place and he was getting ready for work the next day. He was very affectionate as usual with me. He hugged me and kissed me and invited me to his mother's bday that weekend. Then he also asked me what my plans were for halloween? He wanted to invited me to go to a mini vacation up to san franciso with his family to go watch a football game. i said yes and that sounded like fun. Then, later that night we were cuddling on his bed and he asked me to be his girlfriend. It caught me off guard because he wasnt ready for that a while back. I asked him several times if he was sure and ready for that. He said yes! like 15 times! He was like yes, I want it to be you and me...together. So I ended up leaving it was getting late. I told my close friends he asked me out. I texted him later that day and i mentioned how we were together. He texted back, " I dont remember that tho. dont get all angry" of course... I was upset... I felt hurt, sad, betrayed, lied too and most of all humiliated. Who asks someone that and then says they dont remember? But he sure rememebered asking me to san francisco. (oh i forgot to mention he had a two beers in front of me) he said he was really drunk and didnt remember that. I just feel like that was the biggest mind game ever! It seems that he says one thing and does another... then he had thenerve to say I brought us being together up....I did not at all. He just added more fuel to the fire. He was upset bc i kept texting him and then he said, " im not trying to hurt you. you're going to make things worse and i dont want things to get bad.. etc" my point is... when we are together we are always drama free and have good times.

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now he is ignoring me and is acting like i did something wrong. Im a leo and have been sooo patient with him. I have put up with more and i have tried harder in this relationship more than any other. (By the way I just turned 25 and he will be 30 soon). I feel like he took it too far. I really care for him and believe he is a good guy at heart. He always twists things around. He always wants to be the victim. Oh yea, he did say, " i remember something about us being together" so he clearly remembered something about it. I just feel like, if he really cared he would realize he was wrong. He is mad now bc i texted him out of hurt... so he is trying to use that agaisnt me. I just care so much and really want to work things out. I even said, "fine if you say you were drunk... i was willing to drop everything" but noooo he has to make it seem like i was wrong. I have never had a guy ask me to be his girl and then not be serious about it and especially not say he didnt remember. Any girl would have been hurt over it. And now he is ignoring me bc he is upset too and this is our main issue in our relationship. When he gets mad he ignores everything and everyone. I on the other hand like to confront the issue and resolve things. I tried texting him and no response so i just stopped contacting him. However, my last comment I was firm and said something like, " I care bout you and our relationship. I apologize if i got out of line with the textes, but i was so hurt. contrary to what you beleive.. you did ask me to be your gf several times and then u said you didnt remember. Any girl would have been hurt. how would you like it if i ignored you? i don't think you would like it very much. I am very hurt by you and upset with this whole situation" im tired of his games... my last text to him might not have been the sweetest but you know it was real. It is how i felt... i always sugarcoat things bc i know he always gets mad or will twist things around. but you know what... i feel if this pisces really cares he will come around. I just cant let things go all the time when he is wrong. he just takes advantaged

one more thing... i really care for him and all i want is for things to work out. His mom's bday is tomorrow and i havent heard from him. I stopped texting him but you know it has been getting to be to much. It is like a push and pull game. He cares for me but then doesn't always act like it. I want to save our relationship, but i feel like when he is wrong he should make more of an effort. He was upset and said, " this is why i dont want a gf bc of the drama" and then i said , "why do you keep talking to me still then? if you think im drama? which i am not! I only get upset when he does something hurtful" and he said, "why do you think? bc i care about you!" but if my pisces guy cares so much like he says then why is he so hard on me. he knows i care for him ... and why is he ignoring me now? I am very easy going and dont like this tensiion and just wish there was some way we could communicate. What do you guys think? Should I leave him alone? Do you think he cares? I hope another pisces can help me out with this... thank you 🙂

Hi pisces princess,

all i know is that his moon is in libra. and i believe his venus is aquarius but im not sure

my father's is a libra with moon and libra and his advice was to just be nice to him and that i am coming off confrontational. As a female though, we have to have self-respect... or else guys will walk all over us.

My advice is not sign related, but man-woman related. If someone does not care enough to make you a priority in their life. Point at the door. You cannot 'fix' someone. You cannot change them. Nor can you shoulder all the emotion in the relationship or belittle who and what you are to please someone else. That equates to being a doormat. And doormats get no respect. They get trod upon and have feet wiped all over them. Take back your power.

Thanks Days22, yea it is tough because I have feelings for him.

Hi pisces princess thank you hun for your advice... i do feel like im walking on eggshells with him and that's not the girl i am. i am a leo lol and we have big hearts but have a lot of pride too. Thanks again 🙂

venusisabull, Thanks for your advice. I actually have that book, "why men love bitches" and what you said reminded me of that. I am not a doormat type of girl but with this pisces guy i have made myself that. And you are right, i am getting no respect back. Thanks for the advice 🙂

Any time lady. 🙂 Men are lovely, baffling creatures. And they think we are? My goodness. Have to love them, can't shoot them. Besides those orange jumpsuits are sooooo tacky. 😉 You're a Leo chica. ROAR.

Hi king pisces, I noticed a lot of leo/pisces lately too. This is my first romantic relationship with a pisces. All other pisces males are pretty close friends of mine. And I have to be honest that all my pisces guy friends have all been little players. I know this bc I'm the girl they confide too and the only girl they haven't gone out with. So they are pretty honest with me and we tend to be great friends.

I agree with you... I think i love the idea of the guy i orginally fell for. I have seen the wonderful side of him. However, lately the mind games are ridiculous and I don't like to be treated that way. I have to admit, I used to be known as the queen of mind games but that was a long long time ago when I was a teen. So what he did the other day of saying he didnt remember n asking me to be his girlfriend was just hurtful to me and a obvious mind game.

I think it confuses me even more because we are older and I was just sort of blind to the fact that people still play games at our age.

about giving him another shot—... at this point its only been a couple days so deep down I would want to...so a question to all you pisces?... I do not plan on contacting him anymore... I made it clear several times by words and by my actions that I care... If he does contact me... how will I know if he is being sincere and if i should possibly give him another shot?

* I would be extremely cautious and take things slow with him.

caution will usually set you up for failure with a pisces man. We crave to have attention and love. But not a little its all or nothing. We will stretch things out and revisit them however if we sense discontent or mistrust your screwed. We want a powerful woman. Powerful as in she exudes sexual prowess and power. You would respond to anything from him with a direct answer. IE: do you want to go somewhere with me and be my girlfriend. Your answer would be "Hell yes i do!".

Some pisces men are players and others will let a relationship marked in failure drag on just because we dont want to hurt someones feelings, or we are hoping things will turn around. Give him shit and play the queen. If he contacts you lay down the law before you agree. Breaking is what the heart is made for. If your heart yearns for him then sit down and figure him out.

There are always things that make us take notice and ponder. Im dating a pisces myself and sometimes im like "oooh i do that". We have moods, we need space and time. Sometimes if you just let it go we come back like nothing ever happened. Let it unfold as it is meant to rather than try to force something.

Maybe he thought you werent interested enough. If you want someone bad enough there are other ways to catch them than by force. Learning about them and then accepting their faults before you decide to become involved is a big start. Sometimes we are damaged and hard to find. Take a good long look into him and see if you can collide.

Posted by KingPisces
They don't last. I've been in those myself.

I think it's a pleasant mix of elements when the man is Leo and the woman is Pisces. I can't imagine a Leo woman with a Pisces man, it just seems so wrong. A lioness is too much for a Pisces man to handle 😉

Hi Thefish...Thanks for the advice... I've given my pisces guy my "all." I was in it for real! I'm a Leo and yes love affection but I gave him tons of attention and love. We have been off and on again and he mentioned once, "how he loves how I'm there for him and have stuck around after all the things we have been through." If my pisces guy doesn't realize that by now, I honestly don't know what would? I really do care and I've stuck around more than with anyone else in my life. It was very clear that I was interested.

Right now I know I have to let him come to me. He needs space, I think that inside I'm just worried if he will or not. I know everyone says that time tells all and that if he is meant to be for me he will come back. We have stopped talking on and off for a total of three times. The first time he came back to me and the last two times I contacted him first. I just want to be happy with him. It's so simple to me... and it seems that he is so indecisive. What he did to the other night by asking me to be his girlfriend and then the next day saying he didn't remember? Well, that was just too much, and really hurt me. Any girl would have been hurt. He goes through his ignoring modes (which he is in right now) and he is very stubborn. He has admitted to me several times how stubborn he is. Even though I am a Leo and have tons of pride. I'll let down my pride in a second for a good cause or for the one I love. If it is to work things out with him then even though I am hurt I would be open to hearing him out... only question now is will he come back? hmmm... I guess only time will tell.

one more thing to thefish... I accepted him with all his faults. I'm that type of person that sees beyond that superficial. I think our main issue was that he was wrong the other night and instead of me just getting so upset at him I should have just ignored him until I cooled off and was ready to talk to him... so now he just tried to twist everything on me. I wasn't patient enough that I gave him a reason to throw back at me. And you know a pisces with that opportunnity will take it to manipulate the situation and make himself not look guilty.

I think you are hiding, lying to yourself ... for example: you say he always wants to be a victim, when it's you in here crying.


You have an expectation on how he should be treating you, based off of how you are treating him .. which thus far, sounds like it has been tolerance for passifying, so he won't get upet. You even said that you always sugar-coat things, so not to get him upset because he might twist things around.

Pisces people do have the fault of twisting things around, however to us it's not twisting the truth around, it is actually untwisting it to you all who have it twisted by your own egos.

You have made several comments in here which make the implication that alls you want is for this to work out, and that this is why you """""overlook""""" those things in which you don't like .. and what you're not realizing is that because he is a Pisces, he is fully aware that you passify his antics = makes it worse because he'll play along.

If you ignore his antics because you just want it to work out .. then you are ignoring the very things in which you should be considering ... and yet, you are upset because he isn't treating you the way you are treating him ....


.. when in reality, he is treating you exactly the way you are treating him, and he knows it, and does it intentionally .. it is you who doesn't know it because you are twisted.

An example of this being twisted in reality is when you say you are drama free and then tell us that you blew his texts up so you could beat it into his head with you constantly telling him that you are upset and hurt >>>>>> which is suggesting that he is suppose to do something to aid your emotions about being upset.

You are definitely about drama, yet, think you are not ... and for sure, you will say I am also twisting it around when in reality, I'm untwisting what you've said.

Then, later that night we were cuddling on his bed and he asked me to be his girlfriend. It caught me off guard because he wasnt ready for that a while back. I asked him several times if he was sure and ready for that. He said yes! like 15 times! He was like yes, I want it to be you and me...together. So I ended up leaving it was getting late. I told my close friends he asked me out. I texted him later that day and i mentioned how we were together.


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It sounds to me like if this man gives you any kind of emotion .... you jump on his hard, and press.

This man asks you to be his and you respond with asking him if he's ready for it, eventhough you've been together for a year?

Why can't you just let him get feelings out for you, without you having a need to make it so heavy of a burden on him to care about you?

If you would just back off a tad, and not pressuring him so hard with your emotional baggage, and let him get his feelings out, then you might find that he actually cares about you.


He considers you, he tries to include you in events in his life ... but, if a moment arises that he isn't suffocating you with how he feels about you, then you flip the fuck out?


And you think you are drama free?


It sounds to me like you make liking you romantically very stressful by means of pressuring him. Go with the flow .. let him get how he feels out. If you put your claws in him, he's bound to jump into the water and disappear into the darkness.



"one more thing to thefish... I accepted him with all his faults. I'm that type of person that sees beyond that superficial. I think our main issue was that he was wrong the other night and instead of me just getting so upset at him I should have just ignored him until I cooled off and was ready to talk to him... so now he just tried to twist everything on me. I wasn't patient enough that I gave him a reason to throw back at me. And you know a pisces with that opportunnity will take it to manipulate the situation and make himself not look guilty."


He wasn't guilty of anything, as far as I could see except being afraid of you when he tried to tell you how he felt and you demanded more.

p-Angel... I admit when I am wrong and I don't like how I handle things with him with the textes because YES that caused drama. I was saying that HE was ver WRONG for asking me to be his girl and then to tell me the next day he "didn't remember?" Who does that?

That is not normal of me to text him a lot cuz I was upset.
but it also is not normal for someone to ask to be together and then forget it happened the next day?

I have never denied my part in this relationship bc it takes two. My situation is just that he did mess up this last time with acting like he doesn't remember... but I made it worse. Now, I just hate this tension b/t us because I care about him as a friend and more. So of course, I am hurt and I miss him and geniunely want things to just get better.

But I do agree with things you have said P-Angel (so no I am not saying you are twisting things around) and I mean I cant really do much now? Hopefully, it can work out. That's all I can hope for. Every relationship has issues and I want to work on my for my sake and if I continue to stay with my pisces guy.

from everything going on sounds like hes keeping you around but devalues you. My advice is to no contact him and wait for him to come sniffing around. If he doesnt your better off leaving it alone. At his age if hes playing those games hes a downstream or dark fish, your better off without him.

King Pisces:

My Sun is Leo
Moon in scorpio
venus in cancer


His is Sun in Pisces
Moon in libra
venus in aquarius

yes I know it seems like it clashes right away... we are complete opposites especially in our moon and venus.

I saw him yesterday for his moms birthday...
he apologized and told me he does care so much about me. he has only had one girlfriend in his whole life. He told me that he has only really cared for two girls... his ex and me. He told me he takes things very slow. and that he just hates when i text him a lot when im upset (which I will avoid doing completely from now on! ) and he doesnt want a relationship like that... which I agree ... so we just said we will both try to communicate better.

His mother told me the same and that "I'm alreadly his gf but he doesn't know it yet and that he will come around but that I need to stop giving him so much power"

The plus side was that his whole family adored me. Even his grandmother who is a tough cookie with almost everyone and doesn't really like just anyone... she made sure to find me and say bye to me yesterday. He was happy about that and surprised.

We basically both decided to give it one last shot and try to see where things go between...

My goal is that I know what part I had in our problems before so I know I have to just it easy and remain calm and not get so upset over the lil things and i only have control over my actions...and hopefully it will work out this time around. Wish me luck! lol 🙂

Thanks you everyone for the advice.

and I sure will take it out in bed from now on! ... 🙂