Pisces man magician

...because he disappears into thin air! I'll try to keep it short...

He is Pisces sun, Gemini moon and Ascendant...he's a pretty mutable character, always on the go, divorced, no kids. So. After years of not answering his invitations, we started seeing each other. Great dates: lots of things in common, amazing connection. Lots of weird conjunctions in our charts...vertex and north node and stuff, double aspects too, and I've never had that with anyone.

He was scared and said he didn't know what to do about me, cos he felt so strongly and had never experienced anything like it. At the same time, he said he wanted our dates to be 'secret'. Well...I normally would have ended it there...but I didn't. After most dates, he'd vanish, only to reappear. I got on with my life...went out with some other guys, but wasn't into anyone enough to go beyond the first date.

Then, he asked me to accompany him on a business trip, where I most definitely wasn't a 'secret'. We were both apprehensive going away but had an amazing time...he couldn't stop telling me how stunned he was, he'd had such a great time. We went away again - to see a place my dead grandad fought in WW2. Again, wonderful trip. Started going out for meals where we live, not so secret. We went abroad for a week - perfect. Went on another trip just now: great.

You'll probably think I'm crazy for not putting my foot down and demanding something more concrete from him...but I just don't know how to process all this. He's actually said I should be more demanding of him, but how can I if he pulls these disappearing acts on me? By that I mean he hasn't texted for a couple of days, he practically never calls, and I don't either.

He said he cares for me, thinks of me very often, always wants to pay for me, is thoughtful, tells me I'm beautiful, looks up to me, considers me intelligent, adores me when we're in bed...you get the picture.

Oh, by the way, we didn't sleep together until we'd been going out for 4 months. I held off. So here I am with this amazing guy...but it's going nowhere. There's more, but as I said...I've tried to keep it short. We've been seeing each other close on a year. We're both old enough to know better (he's 8 years older). Any kind, thoughtful comments from people with a heart appreciated.

My longest lived in relationship was a Pisces with Gem moon.

I'm not sure what you call disappear....not texting for 2 days? (" By that I mean he hasn't texted for a couple of days") SERIOUSLY?

How often do you see each other?

lol bad signs if a guy tells you let's keep our dates a secret that's already a red flag doesn't matter what sign it is.

He might be David Blaine or Chris angels long lost brother lol

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Posted by Astragola
...because he disappears into thin air! I'll try to keep it short...

He is Pisces sun, Gemini moon and Ascendant...he's a pretty mutable character, always on the go, divorced, no kids. So. After years of not answering his invitations, we started seeing each other. Great dates: lots of things in common, amazing connection. Lots of weird conjunctions in our charts...vertex and north node and stuff, double aspects too, and I've never had that with anyone.

He was scared and said he didn't know what to do about me, cos he felt so strongly and had never experienced anything like it. At the same time, he said he wanted our dates to be 'secret'. Well...I normally would have ended it there...but I didn't. After most dates, he'd vanish, only to reappear. I got on with my life...went out with some other guys, but wasn't into anyone enough to go beyond the first date.

Then, he asked me to accompany him on a business trip, where I most definitely wasn't a 'secret'. We were both apprehensive going away but had an amazing time...he couldn't stop telling me how stunned he was, he'd had such a great time. We went away again - to see a place my dead grandad fought in WW2. Again, wonderful trip. Started going out for meals where we live, not so secret. We went abroad for a week - perfect. Went on another trip just now: great.

You'll probably think I'm crazy for not putting my foot down and demanding something more concrete from him...but I just don't know how to process all this. He's actually said I should be more demanding of him, but how can I if he pulls these disappearing acts on me? By that I mean he hasn't texted for a couple of days, he practically never calls, and I don't either.

He said he cares for me, thinks of me very often, always wants to pay for me, is thoughtful, tells me I'm beautiful, looks up to me, considers me intelligent, adores me when we're in bed...you get the picture.

Oh, by the way, we didn't sleep together until we'd been going out for 4 months. I held off. So here I am with this amazing guy...but it's going nowhere. There's more, but as I said...I've tried to keep it short. We've been seeing each other close on a year. We're both old enough to know better (he's 8 years older). Any kind, thoughtful comments from people with a heart appreciated.

He is a loser. Lose him.

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exactly what I thought, he must be some kind of loser to keep chasing her

I was expecting a lot of criticism when I posted this!! I have never been in this situation before...I mean, I'm a practical Taurus, ok?! And this might sound callous and unfeeling, but apart from when I was 15, have never suffered from unrequited love - never been involved with someone like this guy. Who is in a very secretive job, by the way. A sort of legal snoop. I always felt uncomfortable around him and his type...the disappearing he does is an exaggeration, he just isn't available...partly due to his job, and partly to his personality. He treats me like a princess as I said, but likes to keep me at arms' length...the choice is mine. However, if I ask him to meet up, he's quick to respond and set up a date...maybe Pisces need to be pushed a bit? And I'm too proud (Leo moon) to ask...

Thanks for your comments :-)

The disappearing thing is his Gemini parts, not the Pisces parts. Try the Gemini forum.

Posted by LadyNeptune
The disappearing thing is his Gemini parts, not the Pisces parts. Try the Gemini forum.

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I think is his Pisces parts, as Gemini needs talking and "constantly" communicating, is colder regarding feelings but I think Pisces needs more distance, is more calm and needs to... rest (?

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Posted by LadyNeptune
The disappearing thing is his Gemini parts, not the Pisces parts. Try the Gemini forum.

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I think is his Pisces parts, as Gemini needs talking and "constantly" communicating, is colder regarding feelings but I think Pisces needs more distance, is more calm and needs to... rest (?

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Gemini also looses interest easily, becomes bored etc. Honestly is sounds like he's pursuing other females and returns to her when they don't pan out because she stays available to him.

I appreciate your comments..well almost all of them...haha... ..I thought about ghosting him, truly I did, but in the end I decided to tell him I wanted to see him just so I could see if he responded and how. He answered straight away with loads of smileys and asked me if I wanted to see him later on or the next day...so I met him the day after and he took me for a meal and had also booked a nice hotel for the night. When I told him I wanted to tell him something, he immediately asked me if i wanted to stop seeing him. I replied my problem was that I'm getting used to it (seeing him) and was uncomfortable with it; his only reaction was to smile and ask why it should be a problem. Light as a feather... I have venus in aries and admittedly part of me enjoys this...conjunct his mars in aries... We're both busy for the xmas holidays...I guess he'll be back.

Yes, venus in aries...well said, Dreamyboy :-) some of us have charts with a whole lot of issues...he has pluto opposite sun, I have pluto opposite venus...oof..I could do without that, next life...

I want to spend time with him, travel with him, sleep with him. But I want him to want me, too; and there is the problem!!!!

The only Pisces I know well is my grandmother, and I'll never know her well...she's the quintessential chameleon, running rings around everyone all her life, changing direction like the wind.

My midheaven is pisces, conjunct his sun. I'm pretty changeable myself...enough to drive me crazy :-)

Thanks for your input, Dreamyboy...you're right about his job - it's a large part of his life. Massive. He's involved in policing, protecting the State, etc. and he's totally dedicated to it. We have some interesting conversations seeing as he's from a different country/culture, he's intrigued by my views, and generally very curious, though rather set in his ways (comes with the job). Funnily enough, the first "present" I ever gave him was...a bag of salt :-)

An update on my secretive Pisces, who I'm still seeing.

He's still like a lake: no ripples on the surface, a lot going on underneath,and the Gemini part of him is just like a kid. In short, normally I'd have run a mile, but ... why not?

I've become a bit more demanding with him,and he doesn't seem to mind. He usually obliges me. He's very sure and responsible in his job, always has to take the lead, but with me he also likes to be led...Pisces thing, right?

Since I wrote, we've been away together quite often to see places and do things and have a few trips coming up. We're just not 'in a relationship'. I think this whole thing might have something to do with the fact that in the past few months Pluto's started transiting my descendant...!!!

In fact I've never felt such a visceral, primal connection with someone and am determined to experience it...I'm not sure it's common, and I want to live it.

Pisces you're such an odd sign...in the past few months, I've made a new female friend, a lady who's older than me, who has a son in his early 20s who's a Pisces. He's so secretive too, won't be pinned down,and as she's a very headstrong person with no tact (I don't know her sign) they're always arguing. Well she rages and he swims off!!

You describe a normal relationship, where the two of you enjoy each other, are responsive to each other and genuinely have respect for each other.

I don't see a problem, except for you needing to have a title. It's as if the nuances aren't enough, you don't seem to have intuition to be able to read the basic elements of a relationship.



You just have to blunt words said to you to be able to grasp your reality.



How sad.



Good thing he is willing to keep it alive, because you don't seem to be able to go with a flow without questioning and wanting to prompt for established rules.

Be a little more mysterious...Pisces men like this, otherwise he will get bored+scared. Go with the flow for a little while and enjoy your time together. Just have fun without wondering what is he thinking, where are you going ect...time will show everything you need to know, be patient and relax.

Good luck.

mysterious is a good thing. also know that gemini moon are drawn by intellect and dont seem to be able to deal with their feelings. their a bit cold on that side of them.

also hes a magician and magicians has another way of thinking about life. i mean magicians to me and someone I once knew who did magic believes in energy = more spiritual believes. try to get to know his believes by being just a litttle curious about it pisces and moon in gemini he most be smart and kinda mysterious so dont try to know too much.

then try to figure out himself and what he thinks about love thru his inner beliefs. maybe?

Posted by P-Angel
You describe a normal relationship, where the two of you enjoy each other, are responsive to each other and genuinely have respect for each other.

I don't see a problem, except for you needing to have a title. It's as if the nuances aren't enough, you don't seem to have intuition to be able to read the basic elements of a relationship.



You just have to blunt words said to you to be able to grasp your reality.



How sad.



Good thing he is willing to keep it alive, because you don't seem to be able to go with a flow without questioning and wanting to prompt for established rules.

The pussy must just be THAT good.

Posted by Astragola
You'll probably think I'm crazy for not putting my foot down and demanding something more concrete from him...but I just don't know how to process all this. He's actually said I should be more demanding of him, but how can I if he pulls these disappearing acts on me? By that I mean he hasn't texted for a couple of days, he practically never calls, and I don't either.

You shouldv'e set your boundaries and expectations from the beginning. If you want him to call/txt you every day...if you need that communication, then you should've made that known. First thing to do is convey your need for more of his time, attention and communication.

Posted by Astragola
...because he disappears into thin air! I'll try to keep it short...

He is divorced, no kids.

he said he wanted our dates to be 'secret'. After most dates, he'd vanish, only to reappear.

We went away again. Again, wonderful trip. We went abroad for a week - perfect. Went on another trip just now: great.

he pulls these disappearing acts on me? By that I mean he hasn't texted for a couple of days, he practically never calls, and I don't either.

How sure are you that he's actually divorced and or only exclusively dating you? Cause the more I re-read this the more I get the feeling there's someone else in the picture. The not calling/texting, the secret dating, the weekend trips...kinda raises some red flags.

Have you ever spent the night at his place?

It's not easy to give you the entire picture, I see Lady Neptune has expressed some interesting opinions!! I love that Aries moon...

It's a weird situation, I agree. I admit it's really easy to judge me for a loser, based on what I've written. He exhibits behaviours that would have made me run a mile, but...I'm curious. Plus, I'm not one of those females who is out looking for a mate who has to tick all the boxes. I've had so much heartache in the past that I'm going through a stage where I'm sort of drifting and being curious. Most guys who hit on me have serious eg oissues and/or are basiclaly stuck in babydom emotionally speaking; this guy is a MAN (aries mars conjunct my aries venus) and treats me like a WOMAN. Something I appreciate.

He's secretive and very controlled - very Plutonic. He has his Sun in tight opposition to his 5th house Pluto, look it up if you don't know what it can mean.

He's wedded to his job, which is very secretive in itself (he's a sort of snoop) and he needs to show himself to be impeccable to the world. He has a 'persona', his public image, and another side to him that he doesn't show to everyone. He tends to travel a LOT ... alone too...to 'let off steam', I believe. He needs to keep some secrets to feel free.

He often sleeps in a room in the place he works. I've stayed with him at his place, sure, not often but it has happened and he's not married.

I didn't set boundaries because I had no idea what to expect, nor did I ever think I'd continue seeing him. Plus, I tend to listen first, gather evidence, see if it's ok for me, and then make a decision. If it's not ok, I'm gone.

I don't need a title. I don't care about that. Actually, the fewer people in this place I live know about us, the better. I have a big city mentality but now live in a provincial town where the gossip is outrageous...another reason he is so careful about his image, due to his job...

Posted by Astragola

I don't need a title. I don't care about that. Actually, the fewer people in this place I live know about us, the better. I have a big city mentality but now live in a provincial town where the gossip is outrageous...another reason he is so careful about his image, due to his job...

Another reason of what?



It's like you're trying to build a case to prove yourself .. and then just talk everywhere, not making sense.

This whole latest post above serves no purpose except for you to talk about him, and his job. And then you end with saying "another reason" ... another reason for what?



You don't really clarify anything. You just want to whine, is that it?

Posted by daydreamerfishy
Be a little more mysterious...Pisces men like this, otherwise he will get bored+scared. Go with the flow for a little while and enjoy your time together. Just have fun without wondering what is he thinking, where are you going ect...time will show everything you need to know, be patient and relax.

Good luck.

Thanks really appreciated that kind-hearted message.

I have never tried to get him into a corner, and I live my own life, without informing him of everything...

I'll go with the flow, good advice

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Posted by Astragola

I don't need a title. I don't care about that. Actually, the fewer people in this place I live know about us, the better. I have a big city mentality but now live in a provincial town where the gossip is outrageous...another reason he is so careful about his image, due to his job...

Another reason of what?



It's like you're trying to build a case to prove yourself .. and then just talk everywhere, not making sense.

This whole latest post above serves no purpose except for you to talk about him, and his job. And then you end with saying "another reason" ... another reason for what?



You don't really clarify anything. You just want to whine, is that it?

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Umm, thanks for the free aggression and abuse....try breathing before posting, and reread I've written. All the best xxx

People really post online looking for advice, because they need help, and often the last thing they need is to be judged in such an aggressive manner. I relaise you have anger issues, leo asc and aries moon, you should try focusing on your own stuff instead of dumping on other people.

What the hell are you looking for?

You don't actually ask anything .. you just complain about a man who treats you good, implying that's not good enough.

You don't seem to have any awareness beyond yourself.

Other people have asked you in here what you want from him and then you just go off complaining some more.

Posted by Astragola

People really post online looking for advice, because they need help, and often the last thing they need is to be judged in such an aggressive manner.

I don't give a fuck about your opinion of what "people" are looking for.

And secondly, you have no clue what the last thing is "people" need in any manner.

How weak.

Are you so stupid that you have no clue that you posted this in public?

I'll judge you as much as I fucking want to .... what are you going to do about it?



Go cry some more?

Posted by Astragola
It's not easy to give you the entire picture, I see Lady Neptune has expressed some interesting opinions!! I love that Aries moon...

It's a weird situation, I agree. I admit it's really easy to judge me for a loser, based on what I've written. He exhibits behaviours that would have made me run a mile, but...I'm curious. Plus, I'm not one of those females who is out looking for a mate who has to tick all the boxes. I've had so much heartache in the past that I'm going through a stage where I'm sort of drifting and being curious. Most guys who hit on me have serious eg oissues and/or are basiclaly stuck in babydom emotionally speaking; this guy is a MAN (aries mars conjunct my aries venus) and treats me like a WOMAN. Something I appreciate.

He's secretive and very controlled - very Plutonic. He has his Sun in tight opposition to his 5th house Pluto, look it up if you don't know what it can mean.

He's wedded to his job, which is very secretive in itself (he's a sort of snoop) and he needs to show himself to be impeccable to the world. He has a 'persona', his public image, and another side to him that he doesn't show to everyone. He tends to travel a LOT ... alone too...to 'let off steam', I believe. He needs to keep some secrets to feel free.

He often sleeps in a room in the place he works. I've stayed with him at his place, sure, not often but it has happened and he's not married.

I didn't set boundaries because I had no idea what to expect, nor did I ever think I'd continue seeing him. Plus, I tend to listen first, gather evidence, see if it's ok for me, and then make a decision. If it's not ok, I'm gone.

I don't need a title. I don't care about that. Actually, the fewer people in this place I live know about us, the better. I have a big city mentality but now live in a provincial town where the gossip is outrageous...another reason he is so careful about his image, due to his job...

So you've stayed at his place a few times. Ever seen any evidence of another female living there? His wife/live in gf could be gone on her own business trip or visiting friends/family. Any red flags you've seen at his place?

And if you don't stay there that often does this mean he is staying at yours the majority of the time?

Posted by Astragola
It's not easy to give you the entire picture, I see Lady Neptune has expressed some interesting opinions!! I love that Aries moon...

It's a weird situation, I agree. I admit it's really easy to judge me for a loser, based on what I've written. He exhibits behaviours that would have made me run a mile, but...I'm curious. Plus, I'm not one of those females who is out looking for a mate who has to tick all the boxes. I've had so much heartache in the past that I'm going through a stage where I'm sort of drifting and being curious. Most guys who hit on me have serious eg oissues and/or are basiclaly stuck in babydom emotionally speaking; this guy is a MAN (aries mars conjunct my aries venus) and treats me like a WOMAN. Something I appreciate.

He's secretive and very controlled - very Plutonic. He has his Sun in tight opposition to his 5th house Pluto, look it up if you don't know what it can mean.

He's wedded to his job, which is very secretive in itself (he's a sort of snoop) and he needs to show himself to be impeccable to the world. He has a 'persona', his public image, and another side to him that he doesn't show to everyone. He tends to travel a LOT ... alone too...to 'let off steam', I believe. He needs to keep some secrets to feel free.

He often sleeps in a room in the place he works. I've stayed with him at his place, sure, not often but it has happened and he's not married.

I didn't set boundaries because I had no idea what to expect, nor did I ever think I'd continue seeing him. Plus, I tend to listen first, gather evidence, see if it's ok for me, and then make a decision. If it's not ok, I'm gone.

I don't need a title. I don't care about that. Actually, the fewer people in this place I live know about us, the better. I have a big city mentality but now live in a provincial town where the gossip is outrageous...another reason he is so careful about his image, due to his job...

Read about twin flames. And twin flames tarpt one whos good on youtube : house of idems. See if it fits you guys.

Posted by Astragola
...because he disappears into thin air! I'll try to keep it short...

He is Pisces sun, Gemini moon and Ascendant...he's a pretty mutable character, always on the go, divorced, no kids. So. After years of not answering his invitations, we started seeing each other. Great dates: lots of things in common, amazing connection. Lots of weird conjunctions in our charts...vertex and north node and stuff, double aspects too, and I've never had that with anyone.

He was scared and said he didn't know what to do about me, cos he felt so strongly and had never experienced anything like it. At the same time, he said he wanted our dates to be 'secret'. Well...I normally would have ended it there...but I didn't. After most dates, he'd vanish, only to reappear. I got on with my life...went out with some other guys, but wasn't into anyone enough to go beyond the first date.

Then, he asked me to accompany him on a business trip, where I most definitely wasn't a 'secret'. We were both apprehensive going away but had an amazing time...he couldn't stop telling me how stunned he was, he'd had such a great time. We went away again - to see a place my dead grandad fought in WW2. Again, wonderful trip. Started going out for meals where we live, not so secret. We went abroad for a week - perfect. Went on another trip just now: great.

You'll probably think I'm crazy for not putting my foot down and demanding something more concrete from him...but I just don't know how to process all this. He's actually said I should be more demanding of him, but how can I if he pulls these disappearing acts on me? By that I mean he hasn't texted for a couple of days, he practically never calls, and I don't either.

He said he cares for me, thinks of me very often, always wants to pay for me, is thoughtful, tells me I'm beautiful, looks up to me, considers me intelligent, adores me when we're in bed...you get the picture.

Oh, by the way, we didn't sleep together until we'd been going out for 4 months. I held off. So here I am with this amazing guy...but it's going nowhere. There's more, but as I said...I've tried to keep it short. We've been seeing each other close on a year. We're both old enough to know better (he's 8 years older). Any kind, thoughtful comments from people with a heart appreciated.

"He's actually said I should be more demanding of him, but how can I if he pulls these disappearing acts on me?" this - he needs to help answer this question ... how can anything be normal when he's so secretive and doesn't keep a normal schedule. And guard your feelings - just don't get hurt ...

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Posted by Astragola

People really post online looking for advice, because they need help, and often the last thing they need is to be judged in such an aggressive manner.

I don't give a fuck about your opinion of what "people" are looking for.

And secondly, you have no clue what the last thing is "people" need in any manner.

How weak.

Are you so stupid that you have no clue that you posted this in public?

I'll judge you as much as I fucking want to .... what are you going to do about it?



Go cry some more?

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Shes sharing and trying to open up to whoever is willing to answer her thats it.

I do the same I see other people on dxpnet doing the same. Nothing wrong with that.

I can feel your bad energy reading thru your messages. Really not cool.

Get your fucks and badwords outta the way seriously very not pleasant you sound like some mean girl in high school trying to bully seriously?

get out

Pisces men disappear because they step back from a commitment. He is comfortable with the current situation. He is enjoying it and he wants it that way for now. Pisces sign is a fish. This comfort zone is making him feeling like he is swimming in deep waters with you.. He may find you as a trap, if you speak of commitment.

At any cost, never force or threaten him.

Unless and until he doesn't feel he is gonna lose you, he will play the disappearing act. Trust me, this disappearing act can go on forever.

I understand as you are a taurian, who is an earth sign, you want the relationship rock hard and firm for you to feel comfortable.

He loves sorting problems. Be vocal with him and tell him your problem and what you want. He'll sort it for you. Mind games/silent treatments will get you nowhere.

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Posted by Astragola

People really post online looking for advice, because they need help, and often the last thing they need is to be judged in such an aggressive manner.

I don't give a fuck about your opinion of what "people" are looking for.

And secondly, you have no clue what the last thing is "people" need in any manner.

How weak.

Are you so stupid that you have no clue that you posted this in public?

I'll judge you as much as I fucking want to .... what are you going to do about it?



Go cry some more?

Shes sharing and trying to open up to whoever is willing to answer her thats it.

I do the same I see other people on dxpnet doing the same. Nothing wrong with that.

I can feel your bad energy reading thru your messages. Really not cool.

Get your fucks and badwords outta the way seriously very not pleasant you sound like some mean girl in high school trying to bully seriously?

get out

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Oh look, another dumbass joins us !!!!

Well I just got back from 5 days of intense travel with him, have read your input. Really nice of you all to spend some time reading and sharing your thoughts.

So I'm not blaming him for anything, just curious about his style . Before I left with him I was in Spain and while I was there I had a bad fall and tore my fave jeans. So before leaving with him I bought some jeans and packed them. I was wearing this new pair of designer jeans that looked a bit weird...you know, some splashes of bleach and different dye effects...He said something about jeans and glanced at my legs

and I asked him what he meant, if he liked them or not. "Why don't you try and understand what I mean?", he shot back. It's pretty obvious he likes people to figure things out. Something I'm not too good at doing when it comes to him. It's funny, because I'm seen as a really together person who's totally calm and sure. Far from it with him, I feel like a teenager.

He claims attraction doesn't last more than a year but we've been seeing each other for longer. He's still very attracted to me, and it isn't confined to the bedroom. I often catch him looking at me or smiling a private smile. He just never tells me what he feels about me.

We have Lilith contacts, which I've never had with anyone. His is in taurus near my sun (and makes his lovemaking very 'earthy', not typical for such a gemini-pisces creature), and mine is in gemini on his ascendant.

We share a deep emotional interest for history and especially WW1 and WW2. Twin flame? I don't know, but comfortable it is not.

Anyways, I'm very careful not to 'pressure' him. As I've said, I want to spend some time with him, travel if poss., and I want him to want me. I have all of that, and while it lasts, it sure is teaching me a lot about myself, and relationships, and I'm travelling too. I'm not complaining.

This guy truly seems to think he's god's gift! He's pretty totally self-centred too. This doesn't immediately show up because he's a humanitarian and does a lot for people who need help. But the centre of the world is wonderful, gorgeous him. Takes himself pretty seriously too, for someone who claims he doesn't.

I might update in the future 😉 in the meantime I'll get on with my life.