How Do I Handle Dating..

So I'm at the beginning period of starting to date a Scorp sun with Gem Moon.

If things went well and we got exclusive, I'm wondering on how to figure out what their relationship style is so to speak.

I'm assuming that with scorpio sun and gem moon they're not into romantic stuff including celebrating anniversaries or what not due to some what of a emotional detachment. Is that assessment on point?

I pretty much know that they have to say I love you first. Otherwise, if my feelings develop in that way first and I say it, that will scare them off.

But that's a rule of dating women in general though. They have to lead in the sense of asking where the relationship is going and saying I love you first. Otherwise a guy comes across needy asf.

My only point of reference is I dated a Cap Sun Gem moon back in my early 20s. We communicated via internet messaging and phone calls first for a while. (Mind you, this was back in the early 00s as well.)

We forged a strong enough connection that we hooked up on the first date. By the 2nd time I saw the cap again I got her flowers because I didn't want her to feel like I was just after her for sex. Well, that went down in flames fast. She had a super awkward reaction and was very cold about it.

That reaction pretty much informed me never to do those kinds early on in dating. And to only do it after you are in a relationship. But vet her first to see if she is the romantic type before doing so.

Which is what I'm trying currently to do first with this woman.

This is kind of disappointing to read. Every person is different. I don't think you should treat a women differently when it involves your feelings. What scares one women wouldn't necessarily scare another.

The person that's right for you wouldn't care if you admitted that you loved them first.

I personally never say it first because I think a man has to be invested more, him saying it first is what makes me secure in the relationship and it's a relief for me because I usually love someone quickly.

How do you know that you aren't dealing with someone like that?

You just never know. So you should be yourself and if you want to say it, then say it.

Your already over thinking it.

Focus on the here and now. Not the "what will a relationship look like with this person if things get that far". Cause it probably won't get to that point if your energy is focused on an imagined future instead of the here and now present.

For clarification, I have no issue with Gemini mooners. They're just different than most in terms of handling relationships.

I appreciate the kind feedback I really do. While "be yourself" is all good the reality is I live in a world where has access to tons of dudes on social media through dating apps and Instagram. So my competition is fierce especially when its a woman who is attractive.

Unfortunately with a lot of women the behavior they claim not to like (lack of availability, not pushing a commitment with a woman after a period of time, keeping her in the dark on true feelings with her) are the same things that create attraction with these women.

When I am competing against a lot of men, I have to possess the most relaxed laidback attitude when it comes to dating these women. Less is more basically. Show interest, but not too much interest. While women on here can protest this and say they don't act like that, in reality you're in the minority.

Also, many women flake on follow up dates even if you thought the date went well for a better option aka Chad. Or they take you out of the potential relationship zone straight into the friend zone with heart on your sleeve behavior.

When I am single, I have no choice but to spin plates so to speak when dealing with women. Due to a high flake ratio, I generally need to date 2 or 3 women at the same time. Also most women are attracted to men who make them compete for their attention when single. Due to the plethora of eager "nice guy" options they have on social media or in their own social circles.

Again, I understand there are women that arent like that. But you are in the 20% as opposed to the 80% . That is just reality. I dont even do dating apps because the top 15% of men on there are chased after while the rest are ignored. I meet women through social circle, events or during the day. Provided I am getting a clear signal of interest, and not a bait and crush tactic. Bait and crush meaning they use every choosing signal possible to get your attention then act disinterested when you do.

This is all to build up their self esteem since most men dont cold approach as much during the day anymore due to fear of being called creepy, or being accused of harassment. You all should definately check out Melanie King on youtube. While I don't agree with everything she says, she sees how difficult a lot of women (again, NOT ALL OF THEM) have made dating . Dating today is a needle in the haystack situation for most men. So having a nonchalant attitude is the only way you might make it to consistent dating.

Posted by slowdive80

For clarification, I have no issue with Gemini mooners. They're just different than most in terms of handling relationships.

I appreciate the kind feedback I really do. While "be yourself" is all good the reality is I live in a world where has access to tons of dudes on social media through dating apps and Instagram. So my competition is fierce especially when its a woman who is attractive.

Unfortunately with a lot of women the behavior they claim not to like (lack of availability, not pushing a commitment with a woman after a period of time, keeping her in the dark on true feelings with her) are the same things that create attraction with these women.

When I am competing against a lot of men, I have to possess the most relaxed laidback attitude when it comes to dating these women. Less is more basically. Show interest, but not too much interest. While women on here can protest this and say they don't act like that, in reality you're in the minority.

Also, many women flake on follow up dates even if you thought the date went well for a better option aka Chad. Or they take you out of the potential relationship zone straight into the friend zone with heart on your sleeve behavior.

When I am single, I have no choice but to spin plates so to speak when dealing with women. Due to a high flake ratio, I generally need to date 2 or 3 women at the same time. Also most women are attracted to men who make them compete for their attention when single. Due to the plethora of eager "nice guy" options they have on social media or in their own social circles.

Again, I understand there are women that arent like that. But you are in the 20% as opposed to the 80% . That is just reality. I dont even do dating apps because the top 15% of men on there are chased after while the rest are ignored. I meet women through social circle, events or during the day. Provided I am getting a clear signal of interest, and not a bait and crush tactic. Bait and crush meaning they use every choosing signal possible to get your attention then act disinterested when you do.

This is all to build up their self esteem since most men dont cold approach as much during the day anymore due to fear of being called creepy, or being accused of harassment. You all should definately check out Melanie King on youtube. While I don't agree with everything she says, she sees how difficult a lot of women (again, NOT ALL OF THEM) have made dating . Dating today is a needle in the haystack situation for most men. So having a nonchalant attitude is the only way you might make it to consistent dating.

This happens with both sexes, not just men. The point is both people have to want to make an effort. It's just that simple.

Attraction comes down to a basic amount of compatibility. Worrying about other options will lower your confidence and put you out of the game even before it begins. It's unnecessary to think in this way, it will just make you over think even more.

Most women ignore lots of people, the good looking guys have options as well and are rotating people too. Women know this. So for the most part, it's about having interesting conversations and whether they are attracted by that.

Building relationships take time, so if they aren't moving past a couple of months, then that person isn't your person anyways.

You get what you give

Posted by slowdive80

For clarification, I have no issue with Gemini mooners. They're just different than most in terms of handling relationships.

I appreciate the kind feedback I really do. While "be yourself" is all good the reality is I live in a world where has access to tons of dudes on social media through dating apps and Instagram. So my competition is fierce especially when its a woman who is attractive.

Unfortunately with a lot of women the behavior they claim not to like (lack of availability, not pushing a commitment with a woman after a period of time, keeping her in the dark on true feelings with her) are the same things that create attraction with these women.

When I am competing against a lot of men, I have to possess the most relaxed laidback attitude when it comes to dating these women. Less is more basically. Show interest, but not too much interest. While women on here can protest this and say they don't act like that, in reality you're in the minority.

Also, many women flake on follow up dates even if you thought the date went well for a better option aka Chad. Or they take you out of the potential relationship zone straight into the friend zone with heart on your sleeve behavior.

When I am single, I have no choice but to spin plates so to speak when dealing with women. Due to a high flake ratio, I generally need to date 2 or 3 women at the same time. Also most women are attracted to men who make them compete for their attention when single. Due to the plethora of eager "nice guy" options they have on social media or in their own social circles.

Again, I understand there are women that arent like that. But you are in the 20% as opposed to the 80% . That is just reality. I dont even do dating apps because the top 15% of men on there are chased after while the rest are ignored. I meet women through social circle, events or during the day. Provided I am getting a clear signal of interest, and not a bait and crush tactic. Bait and crush meaning they use every choosing signal possible to get your attention then act disinterested when you do.

This is all to build up their self esteem since most men dont cold approach as much during the day anymore due to fear of being called creepy, or being accused of harassment. You all should definately check out Melanie King on youtube. While I don't agree with everything she says, she sees how difficult a lot of women (again, NOT ALL OF THEM) have made dating . Dating today is a needle in the haystack situation for most men. So having a nonchalant attitude is the only way you might make it to consistent dating.

i think that maybe you're just going after the wrong people....?

if you feel like you have to play games or hide your true authentic self in order to impress someone, i just don't think it's meant to be....

the right person won't run away or have you playing cat and mouse...