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Posted by canluvconqueri'm talking about having a car together, those big things, in both your names ect.However your debt is your debt. you should take care of that and not have her take responsibility for it.We haven't been creating debt together. I handle my debts and obligations without her help. I have never till today asked for help either. However, she feels this was as bad as cheating on her. I disagree.click to expand
you know i dont care about what you both do in your relationshp but the violence and cruelty thing is a red flag.
everything else pales.
I wonder, how is the sex life?
Posted by Scorp1989violence and cruelty is not something small.
All these people here are giving advice for you but not for your relationship...the best for both of you is to tell her how you feel and to solve the problems.
if he were my brother, son, father ect i would also give the same advice, because i dont want to see men treated cruelly either,
same with women.
I have a leo sun aunty and she has NEVER raised a finger or hit anyone. her husband would put up with alot i can tell but she's NOT like that, and thank God too.
Posted by Scorp1989Exactly. But she needs to cool off, and he's got to get himself together first.
All these people here are giving advice for you but not for your relationship...the best for both of you is to tell her how you feel and to solve the problems.
Op
I also wonder if you had problems with fertility, babies...
Or you 'jokingly' accused her of infidelity, or have stopped being affectionate.
You know, Crabby, I said the same thing - that money is not the issue, and some Scorpio chick said I couldn't read. lol
Posted by 037She was always on the fence for kids. I loved them and wanted them ASAP. However knew I wouldn't do it unless I could support us financially. Even though she makes more I wouldnt be ok with knocking her up and asking her to pay the bills.Posted by Scorp1989Exactly. But she needs to cool off, and he's got to get himself together first.
All these people here are giving advice for you but not for your relationship...the best for both of you is to tell her how you feel and to solve the problems.
Op
I also wonder if you had problems with fertility, babies...
Or you 'jokingly' accused her of infidelity, or have stopped being affectionate.
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But over the years she rejected the idea of kids outright. But she did reserve hope for adopting.
Posted by canluvconquerHas the highlighted sentiment ever been a bone of contention? Have you ever wanted to do something and had to put it on hold because it involved her money?Posted by 037She was always on the fence for kids. I loved them and wanted them ASAP. However knew I wouldn't do it unless I could support us financially. Even though she makes more I wouldnt be ok with knocking her up and asking her to pay the bills.Posted by Scorp1989Exactly. But she needs to cool off, and he's got to get himself together first.
All these people here are giving advice for you but not for your relationship...the best for both of you is to tell her how you feel and to solve the problems.
Op
I also wonder if you had problems with fertility, babies...
Or you 'jokingly' accused her of infidelity, or have stopped being affectionate.
But over the years she rejected the idea of kids outright. But she did reserve hope for adopting.click to expand
This is why I ask.
I have a Leo Pisces friend who is married to a Virgo. Sometime, last year, I think, she threw a garden shovel at him because she had wanted to go on a vacation for years and had planned it to the very last detail. Two days before the vacation, her husband said he thought they were better off saving the money. She was so infuriated, and it took Virgo lots of pleading and begging to get her back.
Personally, I think she had grown tired of the routine, and if she couldn't get the vacation, then she would get her excitement somehow.
Incidentally, she earns a lot more than he does too.
Maybe its a thing with Leo Pisces? Hmmm
WAIT! I think she might just be needing space.
Not to stay away, but to be by herself and readjust.
That was the one fight I had with my hubby, then I'd pack a small case and disappear for a while. He refuse to give me my space, but when he wanted to take it, he just took off.
This could be it. Sad, but true.
Are you close to any of her parents? Chances are they know what is really the matter.
Not to stay away, but to be by herself and readjust.
That was the one fight I had with my hubby, then I'd pack a small case and disappear for a while. He refuse to give me my space, but when he wanted to take it, he just took off.
This could be it. Sad, but true.
Are you close to any of her parents? Chances are they know what is really the matter.
Or, she's accidentally pregnant and doesn't know!
Hey, just good luck. Yeah?
Hey, just good luck. Yeah?
Posted by LetltBYou women need to realize you can't go putting your hands on a guy then turn around and play the gender card. If you step up and put your hands on a man, especially for petty shit like this you'll get treated like a man.Want special treatment? Then act like a lady. You can't have your cake and eat it too.Posted by Hemispheres
There's no excuse for her behavior what so ever. If it were me the recording would end with her flying across the room.Posted by HemispheresWell my goodness, aren't you the MAN? Typically when I hear a guy is into beating the shit out of a woman, it means "daddy" taught him this is how it's done and you were subjected to witnessing "mommy" getting knocked across the room during your toxic upbringing.
I draw the line at verbal abuse, and regardless of gender don't put your hands on me or I'll square up and knock you the fuck down.
No wonder you're single and can't get anything other than sex from a guy. You have no idea how to treat one.
Real classy.
Newsflash...real men don't lay a finger on a woman, only pussies do. Since you brought up cats I find that fitting.
Don't breed fella, just don't.click to expand
Equal rights for equal lefts
A real man won't let anyone walk all over him let alone assault him. Gender has nothing to do with it. Treat someone like shit, expect the same in return.
Posted by 037You didn't read it. That's why I said you couldn't read.
You know, Crabby, I said the same thing - that money is not the issue, and some Scorpio chick said I couldn't read. lol
I'd already made the point regarding finances which you disagreed with. Then when I made the chronological order showing it couldn't be entirely related to finances and there must be something else you jumped on the band wagon to say the same thing as if you'd come to the conclusion all by yourself.
Your point regarding the sex life is a good one though.
Posted by 037That's just Virgo being selfish as usual!Posted by canluvconquerHas the highlighted sentiment ever been a bone of contention? Have you ever wanted to do something and had to put it on hold because it involved her money?Posted by 037She was always on the fence for kids. I loved them and wanted them ASAP. However knew I wouldn't do it unless I could support us financially. Even though she makes more I wouldnt be ok with knocking her up and asking her to pay the bills.Posted by Scorp1989Exactly. But she needs to cool off, and he's got to get himself together first.
All these people here are giving advice for you but not for your relationship...the best for both of you is to tell her how you feel and to solve the problems.
Op
I also wonder if you had problems with fertility, babies...
Or you 'jokingly' accused her of infidelity, or have stopped being affectionate.
But over the years she rejected the idea of kids outright. But she did reserve hope for adopting.
This is why I ask.
I have a Leo Pisces friend who is married to a Virgo. Sometime, last year, I think, she threw a garden shovel at him because she had wanted to go on a vacation for years and had planned it to the very last detail. Two days before the vacation, her husband said he thought they were better off saving the money. She was so infuriated, and it took Virgo lots of pleading and begging to get her back.
Personally, I think she had grown tired of the routine, and if she couldn't get the vacation, then she would get her excitement somehow.
Incidentally, she earns a lot more than he does too.
Maybe its a thing with Leo Pisces? Hmmmclick to expand
Posted by DwellingOnMove
Currently the transitting Uranus (the master of change and surprise) is conjuncting Leo wife's Mars in Cancer at 19 Degrees. Mars is master of action/reaction/behavior.
Thus her behavior is changing. Surprising. Unpredictable.
Uranus has been in this critical conjunction since April. It stays a critical factor because of the Uranus Retrograde. At least until the end of the year. In December it gets a little better. In 2016 there will be a new wave of change. From mid January to mid may.
Maybe you let her go now. And next year you can catch her again. But it all depends on if she's been deeply hurt by something or not.
And don't think/talk of money. That changes your capability of analysis. It is cheap to blame it on materialistic views. Then you miss to look at the more important root causes.
ups. It's square. Not Conjunction.
The analysis itself remains the same.
Posted by canluvconquerYeah, not telling her about the debt probably made her feel like - what else do I not know. But if she said she moved passed that then she probably did.
I did have debt from before marriage which I didn't tell her until 2 years into the marriage. However we talked about it and it wasn't an issue at the time.
I hear and feel the love you have for her. And I'm sorry your marriage is going through all of this craziness. Why all the separation of everyday life? - sounds like a business relation not a love couple relationship. I feel there's been a total disconnection that's been there for some time - a pulling apart emotionally over time. What has caused it? I know when my leo gf gets mad, that's when I find out what she hasn't let go of yet, what she was (privately) still mad about. So, when your wife was all enraged, what was she screaming and yelling about specifically?
Don't listen to those people telling you to file a divorce right away.. You have plenty of time to decide if that is what you want to do. There is no need to rush into that kind of decision.
I agree with most people that her behavior is outrageous and shouldn't be tolerated. If you are able to, explain to her that you feel the two of you need space apart in a letter. Verbal communication is down the toilet between you two right now. Let her miss your presence and if you choose to return, clearly explain the conditions that will make you want to return - including marriage counseling. And don't return until you've gone to a few sessions.
My leo gf and I are going through counseling right now and it has already tremendously helped our relationship. A lot of dxpers told me to give it up, she was gone, the relationship was not working, yadda yadda yadda. In the end, it will be you making the decision to leave or stay.
We're not married, but I know what it's like when your heart's invested. It is possible to come back from this mess, but that will all depend of what you decide you want to do and if she will eventually correct her behavior or not. I will be honest, I don't know what I would have done if my leo gf got violent with me because that shit would have put me on alert.
Use both your heart and brain when deciding things. Don't let your heart decide things your brain should decide and vice versa!
I think you need to find your strength again. The business issues were bad enough. You have the strength to overcome all the obstacles. Only you don't see it currently.
With your Mercury in Sagittarius at 03 degree conjunction Saturn (Scorpio 29° to Sag 6-7°) your thoughts and your dialogs are all under pressure. This is a test which we all pass successfully. Only we don't like it. It's not comfortable.
You as a Scorpio with Moon and AC in Cap will go safely through this transition. If you cannot pass the test I don't know who else will be able. Scorp-Cap combo is the epitom of strength and success at the end.
Next year whenn Jupiter is in Virgo at 25 degree, your NN will be touched. Something very important will happen to your life. This must be in the 3rd and 4th week of August 2016.
It's also worth noting that transit Pluto in Capricorn gives you a lot of strength. More in future.
With your Mercury in Sagittarius at 03 degree conjunction Saturn (Scorpio 29° to Sag 6-7°) your thoughts and your dialogs are all under pressure. This is a test which we all pass successfully. Only we don't like it. It's not comfortable.
You as a Scorpio with Moon and AC in Cap will go safely through this transition. If you cannot pass the test I don't know who else will be able. Scorp-Cap combo is the epitom of strength and success at the end.
Next year whenn Jupiter is in Virgo at 25 degree, your NN will be touched. Something very important will happen to your life. This must be in the 3rd and 4th week of August 2016.
It's also worth noting that transit Pluto in Capricorn gives you a lot of strength. More in future.
I also think when a partner finds out that the other part has lied to them, there is one big solution to this: Stay humble and wait until you get credit again.
We are egoists by nature. It is difficult for us to stay humble due to our failures. Often after our gilt there comes the paranoia if things are really ok. We see shadows.
Do your best not to provocate her (with new irrelevant confrontations). Work for business themes. Find time to relax and enjoy yourself. Time can repair things for you. There are pairs they go through crisis but find back to each other.
We are egoists by nature. It is difficult for us to stay humble due to our failures. Often after our gilt there comes the paranoia if things are really ok. We see shadows.
Do your best not to provocate her (with new irrelevant confrontations). Work for business themes. Find time to relax and enjoy yourself. Time can repair things for you. There are pairs they go through crisis but find back to each other.
Posted by tizianiVery good point!!
I don't consider it to be my place to advise anyone to end their marriage, never have. But doesn't mean it isn't time for some common sense.
Someone who - regardless of gender - is willing to call up the law and lie or misrepresent the situation has shown they singularly do not give a **** about you. What dontgetmewrong said about there being no respect is accurate. That's when you have to be realistic about where you stand and realise someone is not working for you, your interests or even staying out of it and keeping to their corner. None of those apply. This person is actively working against you. There's really no place to talk about your feelings or operating from a place of 'caring together' at that point. The first thing to do is take a massive step back and look at the picture from a new perspective, let the full picture fall into place. If you're always living together or always up in each other's personal environment it's very hard to see the woods from the trees. And if you get sent down tomorrow or arrested or even both of you get put into hospital because you couldn't just take some time apart, then you will both end up with even less options than you had before.
Yeah, the making up butter is just BAD! No matter how you look at it. Very dangerous too cause the dude could end up in jail or have a record for something that didn't even happen. I think that would've been a done deal for me. All the other stuff, even coming at me enraged, MAYBE I would have been able to move pass, but the making up butter. DAMN!
tiziani wrote, " This person is actively working against you."
This is nothing but escalation. OP does things he finds ok. For example recording her voice. That brings a new wave of rage. And complexity.
Originally she might have only found one failure. Then other things added up. The Pluto man saw he is losing control and he became even more disturbing.
The only thing they need is some time apart. And positive intentions to get new credit. Wife has Moon in Pisces. That Moon person looks often back. We don't go away if somebody can prove their credit.
This is nothing but escalation. OP does things he finds ok. For example recording her voice. That brings a new wave of rage. And complexity.
Originally she might have only found one failure. Then other things added up. The Pluto man saw he is losing control and he became even more disturbing.
The only thing they need is some time apart. And positive intentions to get new credit. Wife has Moon in Pisces. That Moon person looks often back. We don't go away if somebody can prove their credit.
tiziani wrote, "see the woods from the trees."
I see it that way too.
I see it that way too.
Thanks for all the comments and different perspectives. I will be taking a step back to evaluate everything.
Again; I hope time can help us come back to a place where we can have constructive dialogue at the least.
Again; I hope time can help us come back to a place where we can have constructive dialogue at the least.
Posted by Hemisphereswhen me and my husband both watched in shock at the neighbor lady screaming at her husband (now ex) in public, TRUE STORY, we witnessed this!!!
A real man won't let anyone walk all over him let alone assault him. Gender has nothing to do with it. Treat someone like shit, expect the same in return.
and other neighbors did too. And our relatives that live NEXT to the neighbor lady, they know her very very well, and know the couple. it's a sad shame.
it spiralled like this...it's so sad.
we watched in HORROR.
and even my husband and the men around us would say, "why is he acting like a mouse and not a man??"
They'd NEVER go for a HARPY of a woman.
because they'd want to PUNCH her just for being that way. (these types of men won't that's why they stay away) But weirdly there are aggressor/aggressive men who will go for passive women and punch her. it's the strangest dynamic!!!
two aggressors together i have never seen in my life,because both are going to KILL eachother, and punch it out.
but i've Always seen it where the woman is the aggressor and the man is the passive one. It's SO STRANGE.
and the woman is the passive and the man is the aggressor.
it's like two balances of the extreme.
good luck!
keep a cool head. (unless you are from a southern country. if so then even more good luck.)
keep a cool head. (unless you are from a southern country. if so then even more good luck.)
men who are intuitve kind of know what type of woman they are in the stages of dating.
usually.
but OP has been married with his wife for years, it is very similar to the neighbor lady's situation.
I dont know the psychology, but why the hell is she so angry all the time—
usually.
but OP has been married with his wife for years, it is very similar to the neighbor lady's situation.
I dont know the psychology, but why the hell is she so angry all the time—
Posted by lisabethur8
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this is derailing the thread.
His focus is something totally different.
Posted by tizianiit is fucked up. 😢 I like how some of the men in the comments section were honestly saying how it IS embaressing to have a woman do that to them. They keep quiet about it.
the comments on that vid
"They should have showed the part where after she abuses him the cops come and take him to jail then he looses his job and kids then she moves his buddy into his house and is screwing him on his own bed then the courts make him pay alimony to her for the rest of her life. I guess that would have been too long a video though. Sorry for the run on sentence."
LOL sad truth
OP is very courageous.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveit is everything to do with it. If you read the Original post. She degrades him, and then hits him.He has even recorded her.Posted by lisabethur8
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this is derailing the thread.
His focus is something totally different.click to expand
"If you read the Original post. She degrades him, and then hits him.He has even recorded her."
I did not ignore it. It is not his focus though.
I did not ignore it. It is not his focus though.
Posted by DwellingOnMove—
"If you read the Original post. She degrades him, and then hits him.He has even recorded her."
I did not ignore it. It is not his focus though.
you're ignoring the severity of domestic violence.
I dont understand this culture of ignoring that. 😕
and the TRUE story of what happened to the neighbor lady, the ex husband DID do something.
he LEFT her.
that's showing ACTION.
he didnt stay and take the abuse.
he LEFT her.
that's showing ACTION.
he didnt stay and take the abuse.
A day late and a dollar short .....
1. that doesnt' count as trying harder in being a productive and tax paying individual, since you admittedly didn't try at all, until she called "out"
2. because the reality is ... you're a loser, and all men are who don't work an honest day. A parasite to society, who leeches.
So, for the fact that this is even an issue, and the issue exists because you won't pull your weight and keep a job .... she should just walk away from you, before her loss with you is greater.
From the image you painted in describing this as it progressed .... her getting perturbed at you was a common event. So, the only sudden flip that exists is in your lie you use to convince yourself why you don't have to hold yourself responsible for your own mistakes. because for her to be constantly upset about you not pulling your weight isn't sudden, it's so common that it was probably actual bitching.
Another thing I noticed and am wondering about ..... you made sure to convince your viewing audience that she wouldn't discuss what was bothering her, that she wouldn't open up to communicate about the relationship.
yet, the problem with the relationship is you.
So, when you say you wanted her to talk about it, and she wouldn't talk about it ... am I then to believe that you were trying to force her into convo revolved around not blaming you? .. and that's why she refuses to discuss it?
Because it doesn't make sense. If you're the problem, and you're saying she won't talk about the problem with you ... then that means you are ignoring taking responsibility for not financially contributing your due, and what you want to talk about is how it's not your fault, right?
None of it makes sense, otherwise. Because I don't see where you had a desire for the sake of the relationship to actually work in unison with her and pay your part until she pulled the rug ... ONLY THEN do you talk about changing and trying harder.
But, I didn't read this whole thread, so maybe this has been addressed already.
Once again a dumb bitch comes in and states this woman is justified in her actions. You probably are dating the same type of man you claim OP is. No real man will piput up with a passive aggressive woman unless he's a submissive wimp.
As stated OP, run for the hills and for gods sake put your foot down and stand up to this psychotic bitch unless you're ok as being seen as a submissive doormat.
As stated OP, run for the hills and for gods sake put your foot down and stand up to this psychotic bitch unless you're ok as being seen as a submissive doormat.
Just to clarify and to be fair, she's only ever been really physically violent with me a total of 4 times. 2 of those times she was highly intoxicated.
As far as me taking responsibility etc I have never shied away from my financial shortcomings or responsibilities. I have always owned them. Always did my best not to trouble her with my issues.
Hindsight is always 20/20. But I prefer to look to the future. People make mistakes, people are far from perfect. I believe I/We owe ourselves or at least our partners the benefit of the doubt; but at the same time let each other know, or communicate when necessary. I feel a lack of communication has also got us to where we are.
As far as me taking responsibility etc I have never shied away from my financial shortcomings or responsibilities. I have always owned them. Always did my best not to trouble her with my issues.
Hindsight is always 20/20. But I prefer to look to the future. People make mistakes, people are far from perfect. I believe I/We owe ourselves or at least our partners the benefit of the doubt; but at the same time let each other know, or communicate when necessary. I feel a lack of communication has also got us to where we are.
Posted by ImpulsvFair point - lt's just a shity time I suppose. Need to get away - Flying in 2 days to be around family. Here I'm all alone. Of course most of "our" friends were her friends to begin with and they have all alienated me pretty quick. But that was to be expected as well.
Once is enough n its domestic violence not only that she turned it around n called cops
Nowhere is it near to a healthy relationship n I'm sorry but that how I see.
If u were a female n u wrote he's only hit me four times??
She is physically n emotionally n verbally abusive. I suggest if ur going to try seek counseling for self n together.
I think now is a good time to take a breather, think about what you really want, and do some things that make you happy. Get advice from your family or friends, if that's an acceptable option for you. They likely know your situation better and can give you a different view point and support.
My fiance was engaged to a leo woman for about 5 or so years. She became emotionally volatile and verbally abusive after getting on birth control and various medications. She then cheated on him with their friend. He also lost a lot of friends in that matter. It's hard to rebuild after that but after a few bumps he realized how much happier he was without her. This personal story is irrelevant for the most part. Just realize that if things don't work out between you two, you still have the opportunity to be happy and that you're not responsible for the mistakes she has made nor the effort she has not made.
My fiance was engaged to a leo woman for about 5 or so years. She became emotionally volatile and verbally abusive after getting on birth control and various medications. She then cheated on him with their friend. He also lost a lot of friends in that matter. It's hard to rebuild after that but after a few bumps he realized how much happier he was without her. This personal story is irrelevant for the most part. Just realize that if things don't work out between you two, you still have the opportunity to be happy and that you're not responsible for the mistakes she has made nor the effort she has not made.
Posted by canluvconquer
Just to clarify and to be fair, she's only ever been really physically violent with me a total of 4 times. 2 of those times she was highly intoxicated.
Do we want to be fair? Three times were too much.
If somebody goes over a certain limit, there is only two good ways (for me) to handle it:
1) tell them later and leave them until they change.
2) tell them later and leave them forever cause they could not change.
Of course life is crazy. But that should not give us the free pass to stay in dirty waters. You have Cap placements which make you want to handle all obstacles all alone. Now a variation of handling an obstacle is to isolate the triggers. The enabling triggers.
Communication is good. also when it happens when I'm alone and think about what I have really to lose. Let her think about it. (I know you are about to do so)
I can look at your charts if you need. Just trying to help
In knowing how Scorpios operate, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you only want her to calm down and take you back .... so you can break up with her, to stick it to her for daring to betray you.
Think logically & strategically. If you truly love this woman, you can always reconnect in the future. But RIGHT now, you need to get yourself together.That's the plan!
Posted by P-AngelMaybe a much younger me would've been that vindictive and vengeful. I right now don't want that kind of negativity in my life.
In knowing how Scorpios operate, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you only want her to calm down and take you back .... so you can break up with her, to stick it to her for daring to betray you.
Posted by canluvconquerYep... you're a submissive doormat. Have fun getting your ass reamed with a strap-on. I'm out.
Just to clarify and to be fair, she's only ever been really physically violent with me a total of 4 times. 2 of those times she was highly intoxicated.
This seems beyond repair ... Respect is the most important thing in any relationship... thank God you dont have kids.. I know you love her but not sure if you will keep loving her after such treatment.. 10 years from now..
I hope you find your peace of mind with her or without her..
I hope you find your peace of mind with her or without her..
Posted by bnr7013
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My ex lost his identify trying to please me. Sure, it's a great thing but what attracted me to him was not his desire to please me...it was the fact that he had his own identity. [...]
Sorry, how did your ex lose his identity?
He showed you parts of his identity which did not turn you on. It was still him.
"All the changes in the world (to please her) will not make you or her happy "
Any challenge we accept in our life is worth it. Even if it leads to just another outcome than we thought first.
Posted by DwellingOnMovei dont know any Scorpio/capricorn moon men but, Ryan Gosling's dream girl years ago was Rachael McAdams, and he gave up on her, well he had no choice....she didnt want him back.
Yall must see that Libra Rising must be that good looking, that together with how well she earns money she might be the absolut dream girl for him. For his ambitious Capricorn Moon and AC.
Do you think a Capricorn/Scorpio gives up so easily on their dream girl? Not unless the whole universe say, "you have no chance at all".
Now
strategically and submissively it is helpful to accept the temporary distance (his plan). Talking divorce but not doing it fast. (well, what's the problem if divorce happens fast? There are pairs who marry each other several times.)
he's with eva mendez now and they have a baby and now rachael mcadams is with Taylor kitsch:
http://www.enstarz.com/articles/96113/20150708/ryan-gosling-girlfriend-are-fans-finally-letting-go-of-actors-former-relationship-with-rachel-mcadams-photo.htm
Posted by cheekyfaerieStarted dating in 2008, quit job in early 09 - was being shafted by my boss. Engaged in 2010 married in 2011. financially things were good pre 2012. then started going downhill and only started to pick up in 2014/now.
...He had a real job until the time they married and then quit for a vanity project. How long did they date? Were engaged? Maybe she had a head's up and maybe this was dropped in her lap, just like he dropped the past debt bomb on her 2yrs in. Did he record her outburst because he's afraid he's gonna be left high and dry in a divorce and he's planning to use it against her for spousal support? You're buying in hook, line and sinker, but none of us can know what's really lead up to this.
But you're in a bit of a state now, OP. Arielle nailed it from the get go. Even if you guys never talked it out like you should have, I guarantee she told you in her own way. Looking back, do you not see little things where she was trying to speak to you? You didn't pick up on it and her resentment built and built to the point she was walled up. She's already left. Be honest with yourself. Be honest with her. Best of luck to you both.
Maybe she did tell me in her own way; but I also think that's where the problem lies. We needed to communicate better.
I came across forums about spouses being violent and somebody mentioned we should record video; that was in the back of my head i suppose. I also need to protect myself. I've been a (emotional) punching bag for a year now and in all this time I was trying to please her and give her more but got shit back in return. So during the argument I decided to protect myself in case things went the way they did.
I'm flying in 24 hrs and she doesnt know it yet; I don't even know what to say to her or if I should even message her. Or maybe just do it when I'm at the airport. Again my life is now in this apartment; I need her from a visa standpoint as well. It's so complicated.
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by DwellingOnMovei dont know any Scorpio/capricorn moon men but, Ryan Gosling's dream girl years ago was Rachael McAdams, and he gave up on her, well he had no choice....she didnt want him back.
Yall must see that Libra Rising must be that good looking, that together with how well she earns money she might be the absolut dream girl for him. For his ambitious Capricorn Moon and AC.
Do you think a Capricorn/Scorpio gives up so easily on their dream girl? Not unless the whole universe say, "you have no chance at all".
Now
strategically and submissively it is helpful to accept the temporary distance (his plan). Talking divorce but not doing it fast. (well, what's the problem if divorce happens fast? There are pairs who marry each other several times.)
he's with eva mendez now and they have a baby and now rachael mcadams is with Taylor kitsch:
http://www.enstarz.com/articles/96113/20150708/ryan-gosling-girlfriend-are-fans-finally-letting-go-of-actors-former-relationship-with-rachel-mcadams-photo.htm
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@Liz, I liked your answer. very much.
Whoa fella... You're talking about having better communication between you both... Yet you're fucking off on a plane back home... And you haven't even told her...
Posted by AgentP911Erm, she wanted me to move out. She wants the divorce.
Whoa fella... You're talking about having better communication between you both... Yet you're fucking off on a plane back home... And you haven't even told her...
I'm giving her the space we both probably could use right about now. Plus I need to travel for work anyway. She's not totally unaware of my travel plans; there was talk of it during the fights just no dates were set at the time.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveok, that's all confusing.Again; there's no guidelines as to how we're supposed to contact each other or whatnot. She knows I'm in the city since I'm the one in the apartment and not her. I think I will just message her tonight saying this break should be for the both of us.
If you are following the no-contact-policy, you should not contact her. Otherwise that feels like STALKING.
You can let her know through a third person that you are in the city. It must be clear that you give her space while you are open to talks. Talks on necessary issues.
I'm worrying if you have an anxiety against lonliness.click to expand
I've pretty much been alone since she left the flat last week and it sucks. But I've been trying to keep myself busy plus I speak to my family a lot as well.
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