Marriage in turmoil - Scorpion man+angry Leo wife (Page 3)

Posted by Hemispheres

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Posted by Hemispheres

There's no excuse for her behavior what so ever. If it were me the recording would end with her flying across the room.

Posted by Hemispheres

I draw the line at verbal abuse, and regardless of gender don't put your hands on me or I'll square up and knock you the fuck down.

No wonder you're single and can't get anything other than sex from a guy. You have no idea how to treat one.

Well my goodness, aren't you the MAN? Typically when I hear a guy is into beating the shit out of a woman, it means "daddy" taught him this is how it's done and you were subjected to witnessing "mommy" getting knocked across the room during your toxic upbringing.

Real classy.

Newsflash...real men don't lay a finger on a woman, only pussies do. Since you brought up cats I find that fitting.

Don't breed fella, just don't.

You women need to realize you can't go putting your hands on a guy then turn around and play the gender card. If you step up and put your hands on a man, especially for petty shit like this you'll get treated like a man.Want special treatment? Then act like a lady. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Equal rights for equal lefts

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Don't spin this around. I never said it was ok for a woman to be physically violent either. Real men walk away. You're not a man, you are simply what is described as a PUSSY. It's clear you were raised by one who taught you this is ok. Hey, I get it. One day though...it's gonna knock you on your ass. I guarantee it.

Posted by Hemispheres
A real man won't let anyone walk all over him let alone assault him.

CORRECT! They walk away.

Posted by seraph
The question of divorce + the inevitable financial issues arising therefrom. Matrimonial matters are a whole other level of consideration, and where material interests are also concerned, it's best to take the matter to professionals. There's a potential for far-reaching financial impact here.

One quick word of advice:

if she's consulted a lawyer, don't you dare make any moves or say anything without having retained your own as well.

Best of luck.

+1

Posted by AquaMermaid
. This might have given her an impression that you're mooching off her( I'm not saying you do) or may be that you got involved with her with a plan. It might have created trust issues. It's one thing to want to protect yourself but recording someone right in their face when they are raging was a very bad idea. It might have further pushed her away

You're right. She did admit in our arguments recently that she didn't trust me and thought I was taking advantage of her. I can only say I wasn't.

As for protecting myself there isn't much else I could do I feel.

Posted by AquaMermaid
But that's no excuse to verbally and physically abuse someone. As much as you love her, you should still stand up to her and tell her that this behaviour is not acceptable. I can never treat my man like this, he's strongheaded and speaks his mind when he thinks I'm being unreasonable. I know not to cross the line.But you should have been honest about the debts you had before marriage. This might have given her an impression that you're mooching off her( I'm not saying you do) or may be that you got involved with her with a plan. It might have created trust issues. It's one thing to want to protect yourself but recording someone right in their face when they are raging was a very bad idea. It might have further pushed her away. I think Tiziani gave a good advice, you should step back and look at where things went wrong and how you can fix it or opt for separation if necessary. Marriage counselling would have been a good choice because then you both get to bring out the issues in the open that you keep from each other for ego issues or whatever. What we see here is only one side of the story and it's not enough to conclude anything. Don't take any hasty decisions and try to find a way to have an honest conversation with her.

this post reminded me of Mel Gibson and Oskana ordeal where she was being abused by Mel Gibson (so it's reversed here) and she was recording his abuses.

Look how that happened. He even accused her of mooching off of him, when he was the one making her give up lots, and he spent milions on her.

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by AquaMermaid
But that's no excuse to verbally and physically abuse someone. As much as you love her, you should still stand up to her and tell her that this behaviour is not acceptable. I can never treat my man like this, he's strongheaded and speaks his mind when he thinks I'm being unreasonable. I know not to cross the line.But you should have been honest about the debts you had before marriage. This might have given her an impression that you're mooching off her( I'm not saying you do) or may be that you got involved with her with a plan. It might have created trust issues. It's one thing to want to protect yourself but recording someone right in their face when they are raging was a very bad idea. It might have further pushed her away. I think Tiziani gave a good advice, you should step back and look at where things went wrong and how you can fix it or opt for separation if necessary. Marriage counselling would have been a good choice because then you both get to bring out the issues in the open that you keep from each other for ego issues or whatever. What we see here is only one side of the story and it's not enough to conclude anything. Don't take any hasty decisions and try to find a way to have an honest conversation with her.

this post reminded me of Mel Gibson and Oskana ordeal where she was being abused by Mel Gibson (so it's reversed here) and she was recording his abuses.

Look how that happened. He even accused her of mooching off of him, when he was the one making her give up lots, and he spent milions on her.

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Except nobody's threatened to kill anyone.

Posted by canluvconquer

Posted by lisabethur8

Posted by AquaMermaid
But that's no excuse to verbally and physically abuse someone. As much as you love her, you should still stand up to her and tell her that this behaviour is not acceptable. I can never treat my man like this, he's strongheaded and speaks his mind when he thinks I'm being unreasonable. I know not to cross the line.But you should have been honest about the debts you had before marriage. This might have given her an impression that you're mooching off her( I'm not saying you do) or may be that you got involved with her with a plan. It might have created trust issues. It's one thing to want to protect yourself but recording someone right in their face when they are raging was a very bad idea. It might have further pushed her away. I think Tiziani gave a good advice, you should step back and look at where things went wrong and how you can fix it or opt for separation if necessary. Marriage counselling would have been a good choice because then you both get to bring out the issues in the open that you keep from each other for ego issues or whatever. What we see here is only one side of the story and it's not enough to conclude anything. Don't take any hasty decisions and try to find a way to have an honest conversation with her.

this post reminded me of Mel Gibson and Oskana ordeal where she was being abused by Mel Gibson (so it's reversed here) and she was recording his abuses.

Look how that happened. He even accused her of mooching off of him, when he was the one making her give up lots, and he spent milions on her.

Except nobody's threatened to kill anyone.

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hm i think P Angel is correct in her earlier post, you want revenge for what she did to you. 😕

everyone is saying how bad the leo/pisces moon woman is, She is very open and while her abuse is not right, it might be that you wanted to push her to see how she really IS in the relationship, how FAR she would go. in reality watch out for the stinger.

in that case, that's awfully mean if you tried to push her knowing she wouldnt be able to take it. 😢
Never underestimate the power of what a man can do.

maybe the cancer dude earlier knew what's up.

Posted by lisabethur8
in that case, that's awfully mean if you tried to push her knowing she wouldnt be able to take it. 😢
Never underestimate the power of what a man can do.

maybe the cancer dude earlier knew what's up.

There's definitely a part of me that resents her for what she's done to me. But me recording her was a reaction to her getting physical . Not the other way round.

Anyways, about to fuck off for a while. Hoping cooler heads will prevail.

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Posted by lisabethur8
in that case, that's awfully mean if you tried to push her knowing she wouldnt be able to take it. 😢
Never underestimate the power of what a man can do.

maybe the cancer dude earlier knew what's up.

There's definitely a part of me that resents her for what she's done to me. But me recording her was a reaction to her getting physical . Not the other way round.

Anyways, about to fuck off for a while. Hoping cooler heads will prevail.

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you two are just not compatible. I'm sorry, but if one of you gets physically violent, NOT compatible.

it's the similar situation with my relative's neighbors. NOT compatible.

the ability to let go when it's time is the best and most useful lesson i learned so far in life



i agree with your leo wife. at this point, it is meaningless to seek couple couseling or dig further. it's too late. water under the bridge. she wanted you gone yesterday and she will continue to hurt you until you give up. she already told you she does not love you and you are the worst mistake of her life. she got violent x4 and even called the cop to hurt you. what more do you need to understand that it is time to quit??


when a woman completely lost respect for her man, it's THE END. have some dignity and set you both free, please.

I clicked on the +1 but I don't see where it posted.

I agree with cloud9 and was trying to +1, I thought that clicking the link would get met here. Guess not.


though, I know it's impossible for a Scorpio to actually have enough strength to walk away when it's the right thing to do ... nevertheless that is exactly what you should do.


Knowing that you're a Scorpio .... there's no doubt in my mind that you will hang on, trying every bit of guilt-tripping that you have in your arsenal on her ... because that is what Scorpios do. They don't actually possess the emotional strength and will power to help themselves, and will obsess and grovel .. rather than grow integrity to step away.


There's no doubt anywhere in my mind that you are trying to think up everything you can to verbally throw at her ... in fact, I'm sure that's the only reason you even want to get on a plane and go to her.

It's not to try and reconcile ... it's because you want to continue in trying to manipulate her to make her feel guilty.


You're not going to trick me. I know exactly how Scorpios operate.

I think I've read he also has visa concerns. So maybe giving up on her means giving up on his business goals in the guest country. And he does not want to endanger it.

For me it were more helpful if some dxpers with multiple Capricorn placements could give advice. Or even Virgo. He needs practicality.

Because the truth isn't practical, Dwelling?

this guy uses this woman on so many levels according to everything he says .... but, somehow he is the victim

it amazes me, it really does

well i'm a capricorn with sun, venus and mercury in cap lol. i however are also highly mutable and i abhor digging heels in the ground, especially when it comes to relationships. when you are not loved or wanted, respect yourself and leave before it gets ugly please.


i'm in no way condoning the leo's abusive behavior. physical violence is never ok. men or women. OP should walk away from that alone.

as to OP needing leo for visa, i'd say if she is not a kind person and can carless about his wellbeing to do him any favor, then let it go. drop the business plan to re do the plan somewhere else. start from scratch if need be. have some dignity to not make her further feel that you are taking advance of her, financially. i'd rather drink water and eat bread for years than to ask her help. money is not the most important in life. yes this is coming from a capricorn lol

thank you, ic. you are my hero today.

Posted by canluvconquer
LEO WIFE:
Rising Sign is in 27 Degrees Libra
Sun is in 04 Degrees Leo.
Moon is in 09 Degrees Pisces.
Mercury is in 23 Degrees Leo.
Venus is in 08 Degrees Virgo.
Mars is in 19 Degrees Cancer.
Jupiter is in 01 Degrees Sagittarius.
Saturn is in 28 Degrees Libra.
Uranus is in 05 Degrees Sagittarius.
Neptune is in 26 Degrees Sagittarius.
Pluto is in 26 Degrees Libra.
N. Node is in 24 Degrees Gemini.

she has a stellium in sag, and what house is it in?

also, two leo placements, sun and merc.

her venus is in virgo, mars cancer.

so from cafeastrology mars in cancer women usually go for these types:

If a woman's Mars is in Cancer, she may prefer the "sensitive type" of man who is compassionate, sensitive, and protective. These women sometimes are attracted to temperamental sorts, finding moodiness in a man rather intriguing. They want men with "layers" (remember Shrek?). However, they are not into the type of "sensitive" men that Mars in Pisces women are most attracted to. In fact, they generally want men who are strong and traditionally masculine. Generally, these women prefer men who are physically strong or at least look that way--remember that they love to feel protected.

from what i gather, OP is just slow (as earth is) and she is too fast for him.

and why is her need for money security so passionate if she chose him the way he is?? If she wanted a millionaire then why didnt she marry that type of guy??

you can't have your cake and eat it too and then abuse the person because they aren't suiting your financial luxurious needs.

most people are humble even with 1,400 a month salary with two children and still the man is able to give his wife an allowance. This woman is overbearing over money.

Posted by P-Angel

on a plane and go to her.

It's not to try and reconcile ... it's because you want to continue in trying to manipulate her to make her feel guilty.


You're not going to trick me. I know exactly how Scorpios operate.

I got on a plan ne to get away from her and the situation actually - not to her. She's in no mood to talk and all we do is argue so I decided a break is in order. Yes I want to make things work but I also know things have been said and done that might be hard to come back from on both sides. Hence the break so we can at least both calm down a bit and go from there.

Posted by Arielle83
Whiny assed men who don't contribute are a sex killer, mood killer, relationship killer. Grow the fuck up.

If you aren't husband material, don't act like you are. Your own business wasn't successful so where was your plan b? No back up plan then you cry that your wifey is hurting your feelings? Give me a break. Coddled men are irritating.

I'm Leo merc
Venus Virgo
Cancer mars

I get why your wife had had enough. Id be screaming.

lol is it really necessary for her to hit him?

she could have just left. *smh*

It's possible that it was necessary for her to hit him.

maybe she had been trying to get him off the couch and to at least try to get a job for a long time.

Maybe he was verbally forcing her to throw a punch.


You do realize that he isn't going to paint a picture in where he's wrong in any way .... don't you?

Who does the household chores? The cleaning? The cooking?

Posted by Damnata
Who does the household chores? The cleaning? The cooking?

That would be me

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I'm not saying it's right, but I doubt he's the only victim.

Recording her is fucked too. He totally made an enemy when that happened.

Yes, how did he know she would react that way, while recording? Entrapment, anyone?

Provoking? He's looking for a reaction and he knows what he's going to get from her due to all the responsibility on her. Scorpio snake like tongue of spite comes in and pushes her when she's in a moment if calm, makes her blood boil and she loses it on him.

He knew the reaction which is why he was ready to record. Scorpio spite at it's finest.

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Again, for the record - my recording her was a reaction to the initial violence.

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Posted by Arielle83
I'm not saying it's right, but I doubt he's the only victim.

Recording her is fucked too. He totally made an enemy when that happened.

Yes, how did he know she would react that way, while recording? Entrapment, anyone?

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lol

he already knows her personality. that she's cray cray


men in my personal experience aren't like women at all.

so it's odd that he acts like a woman.

i guess i just have NEVER met these types before.

Even my gay relatives wouldnt put up with abuse.

honestly i have never met a man who takes abuse from a woman. NEVER.

i'm completely shocked at his approach. He must have really low self esteem as a guy.

you mostly hear of domestic violence on women because men are physically stronger and bigger. (that is the truth) but i guess there are strong aggressive women out there who tear men down.

that's so awful imo.

Posted by Arielle83
She's emasculated him. He's weak and she's conquering with her dominance. When you put someone down they don't want to try, they want to rebel.

It's easier to leave and complain, but two ppl make a marriage and if one is doing all the leg work the other is going to resent. Something's got to change.

lol

is venus retrograde over??

maybe in her mind she has already broken up

but he's still hanging on to HOPE.

Posted by Damnata
Who does the household chores? The cleaning? The cooking?

Household chores can all be done in less than a day.

Posted by Damnata
Who does the household chores? The cleaning? The cooking?

the man doing the dishes and cleaning reminds me of this scene where even women commentors were going AWWW oooohhhhh my man does that.

but reality and fiction....

heehee. 😄 😄 this is what promotes idealism.

Let's hope she helps herself and finds a good man.

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by Damnata
Who does the household chores? The cleaning? The cooking?

Household chores can all be done in less than a day.

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I know, but it's still repetitive work.

I was looking if he brings value whatsoever while being unemployed. There's still ways to find yourself useful as a partner.

At any rate, there's no joint finances, no business together, no kids, marriage hadn't lasted that long...

They're both better off apart. He's not the man she needs in the long term. The frustration already built up to a tipping point.

Yes, there are ways.


Obviously, she wants a man who works, not a man who sweeps the floor.

By you saying that, and him jumping on your nuts as soon as you said it ... gave him an out to hold on to.


You gave him validation, and it's quite surprising.

He hasn't expressed in this thread his regard for her. There's no fondness or care expressed on her part.


the only thing he is conveying to us is what she has done to him, to betray him .... like for example, stop supporting him.


Because in a deadbeats mindset, someone else is suppose to support them, so if this someone else stops giving him money then that's a no-no .... meanwhile, during all this time that she's been pissed and on the warpath about him working ...... he obviously ignores it, since he's still sitting on the couch.



He's a loser.

Posted by P-Angel

Yes, there are ways.


Obviously, she wants a man who works, not a man who sweeps the floor.

+1

she wants a man who can provide financially. she is not into this guy at all, but then why did she choose him? You can't just love someone and throw them away.

it just means there is no love in the first place and that the main reason is money.

Posted by tiziani
Seriously, listen to the Mel Gibson phone calls. So therapeutic.

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Mel Gibson's personal life is in shambles it seems.

He is a very very successful individual, had many top roles as an actor and has gotten awards and plenty of recognition, but when it comes to personal affairs of the heart, there is something wrong there.

but hey you can't have it all.

very very few individuals get it all.

My mother in law, has Always told me this. You can't have it all.

Posted by Arielle83

Posted by P-Angel

He hasn't expressed in this thread his regard for her. There's no fondness or care expressed on her part.


the only thing he is conveying to us is what she has done to him, to betray him .... like for example, stop supporting him.


Because in a deadbeats mindset, someone else is suppose to support them, so if this someone else stops giving him money then that's a no-no .... meanwhile, during all this time that she's been pissed and on the warpath about him working ...... he obviously ignores it, since he's still sitting on the couch.



He's a loser.

He has no regard for her.

The videotaping is what he's going to use against her in divorce court to suck her dry some more.

Scorpios and their need to be right and get their revenge. It's over and he can't get over her disrespect for him. Wha wha wha

Work at a gas station for fucks sake. I did that when I came here as an expat. Start small and just get money.

Who cares it's money.

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i can agree with that. It's over. So move on.