Men & STRIP CLUBS

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Tell me...What is your opinion on Men in relationships who go to strip clubs? Does it depend: on how many TIMES he goes/how frequent he goes? WHO he goes with? Whether OR not he tells his girlfriend? Why he feels the NEED to go? What SERVICES he did OR didn't receive from the strippers? How LONG or strong the relationship/commitment is? Give me your OPINIONS & viewpoints on how you feel about committed men going to strip clubs
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I agree. Stip clubs are a way for a man to add on points to the fantasy land. Strip clubs provide fantasy & activate sexual cravings that either 1. Men aren't finding at home or 2. Men choose to idolize & spend lots of energy on. Either way, I don't agree with men in relationships going to strip clubs. In a way, it's kind of emotional cheating. It's going outside of the relationship to find some sort of fulfillment through another woman, which is on the same level as a man doing so with another woman/mistress
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I went to my first strip club I think it was on my 30th B'day... my dad took me, LOL. It was fun. Ya, I was married at the time. I didn't get a lap dance or anything like that... it was just fun watching the beautiful women.

Next time was on a trip to Colorado in 1994. I was of course 34 at that time and divorced. No lap dances this time either... was just fun watching the beautiful naked women.

I think I went twice more to local clubs in the Chicagoland area... both times I finally tried lap dances. Fun. EXPENSIVE, but fun... was a turn on... and I was really horney when I got home to my GF at that time and we made love. Been a long time since I've been to one tho... I think over ten years. I quit going because although fun... you feel really lonely afterwords if you are not in a relationship... all that stimulus and no where to vent it.

I have known all along too... from reading an article in Playboy in my twenties... that all those strippers think the male customers are garbage... total losers. So I always knew it was all pure fantasy... it was still fun tho... hey... guys like to look you know : )
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With me and my circle of guy friends, hitting the Strip Club once in a long time was just something we we're doing to goof off. It was nothing we took seriously. Plus whatever gals we we're dating at the time, they were expected to hang with the boys (Whether it was poker night, bbq's, etc) so when we hit the strip club, they came and had a good time with the rest of us!

Bottom line isn't the strip club in this case but the guy you're dating and the relationship you have with him.

Additionally, this isn't a MEN vs WOMEN thing either. I've seen just as many women get as bad men do in the same situation.
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Posted by Let*It*Be
Did you tell your girlfriend she was the piece of meat that finished off your fantasy & did you pay her for it?



The awful truth is... sometimes we just get bored looking at the same womans body all the time. It doesn't matter how hot she is, or how sexy she is... we just need to see something different. I wish it wasn't this way... I wish there was some button that could be switched off to turn off those feelings... some potion to be taken... some prayer to be prayed... but nothing works... we just need a change of pace sometimes. For me, a strip club at those times was a way to "dip my toe in the water" if that makes any sense... rather than plunge in... and fool around on my GF. Was I completely successful avoiding fooling around on her? no... I ended up fooling around with someone in 1997... and it cost me dearly. She was no stripper tho... but was a 47 year old lady that chatted me up at an event. We clicked and one thing led to another... you know the routine. That's one of the reasons why I quit going to those events... because I was afraid it'd happen again... In hindsight, I realize I just should have broken up with my LTR GF... it would have been better for us both in the long run... but hindsight is 20/20 isn't it.
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The awful truth is... sometimes we just get bored looking at the same womans body all the time. It doesn't matter how hot she is, or how sexy she is... we just need to see something different. I wish it wasn't this way... I wish there was some button that could be switched off to turn off those feelings... some potion to be taken... some prayer to be prayed... but nothing works... we just need a change of pace sometimes.


This has to be the most honest thing I've ever heard from any man...
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The problem with a committed man going to a strip club is that the club represents an environment PERIOD where the likelihood any respect for his relationships is non-existent. THAT is the problem. Sure, there's always a chance that he won't touch or won't spend all of his money there. BUT, the fact that a man would attempt to fulfill his sexual appetite somewhere other than in his relationship is the problem. That's why most men would prefer their boyfriends not to be around their ex girlfriends. It's not b/c they necessarily fear that their man will pounce on his ex. No, it's moreso b/c it'd be him putting himself in an environment where he's most likely to cheat & activate the "human" side in him that will act on impulse. An ex girlfriend is alot like a stripper. She knows how to have him at his mercy, she knows how to activate sides in him that only his girlfriend should have access too. She knows how to stimulate him so much so (whether it's from the feelings they USED to have for eachother all the way down to him just liking her company) that the chances of him betraying the relationship are alot higher. Remember, men just Loveeee to say, "I'm human," when it's conveinant & a stripper's goal is to activate his impulses so much so that all logic goes out the window. One commonality in strip clubs is that strippers could care LESS about a man's wife/girlfriend, or family at home. THAT is the problem. Any man who surrounds himself around anything/anyone where him losing control could be a high possibility, is unhealthy for the relationship. It's no different than with drugs. If your really stressed out and/or have been on drugs before, it's NOT the best idea to put yourself in an environment where people are more likely to manipulate you into taking them. It's no different than with strippers, they'll do whatever necessary to support themselves & that mindset period is dangerous for any commited man to surround himself with.
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Posted by krysrenee7
Tell me...What is your opinion on Men in relationships who go to strip clubs? Does it depend: on how many TIMES he goes/how frequent he goes? WHO he goes with? Whether OR not he tells his girlfriend? Why he feels the NEED to go? What SERVICES he did OR didn't receive from the strippers? How LONG or strong the relationship/commitment is? Give me your OPINIONS & viewpoints on how you feel about committed men going to strip clubs



i find strip clubs very awkward and uncomfortable. for me its a big disgrace of woman and i hate those who enjoy this degradation of woman. such people who dont have any respect for woman r not worthy of making any relationship with them.
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That's what I don't get about men. They say, "oh honey those strippers are trash anyways," but to me that's bull. What is so APPEALING in giving your own hard owned money, time & energy away from who ISN'T trash (your girlfriend)? Is it me, or does that not make any sense. Women hear on the news & in newspapers about the new "no touching" rules but what kills me, is that women fall for things when they wanna fall for things. Prostitution is illegal too, but yet we all know it happens, & especially within strip clubs. Drugs are illegal too but they are still a major factor in the sex & entertainment industry period. With every profession, there are rules, but particularly in certain professions like politics or the sex industry, for example EVERYONE knows that those rules are often broken. I've been to strip clubs before & I have YET to see the "NO TOUCH" rule go into effect. Women sit at home in their little cute pajamas, not having a clue of what goes on behind closed doors at those strip clubs. If a man wants to be visual, that's fine b/c hey, it's not like women don't like anything that appeals to their senses. We ALL do. But if a man just finding it SO necessary to go see a stripper is so "natural" then why don't ALL men do it? It's a cop out. And strippers JUST LIKE PROSTITUTES will tell you, most of their customers are married or atleast in committed relationships. The big picture is that your boyfriend is the reason that industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. Seems kinda weird considering, a man would pave the way for such trashy & "never take home to mama" women..
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men like variety. and a fine way to look and even flirt without either cheating or leading some girl on is to go to a stripclub and maybe get a few lapdances. most men who spend money don't even go primarily for the 'dirty' part. they go because they're lonely and want somebody to talk to them and make them feel attractive and masculine. even if they've got to pay for it. at least they get to hear thankyou when they hand over the cash.

if a guy just isn't into strip clubs for whatever reason, that's cool. but if he's adamantly opposed to strip clubs and thinks strippers are all whores and thinks he 'shouldn't have to pay for it', he's probably an asshole to go out with. same thing if he's the type who'll go and look but is rude to the girls who work there. and probably extremely sexist.

as far as i'm concerned, a real man looks at all women as women/humans.

if a woman freaks out because her man goes to a stripclub sometimes, of course it doesn't mean she's insecure. it means she's an uptight bitch. and is probably exactly the sort of person who'd make a man want to go to a strip club in the first place.

and btw...if a girl is having sex or giving bjs or letting a guy touch her pussy in a strip club, she's a prostitute. not a stripper. the lines are a little blurry in some parts of the country, but that just means that there's part of the country real strippers stay out of because we can't make money there (hell, the prostitutes barely make any money there). and most girls who do that are being used by pimps and therefore deserve pity, not hate.
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lol. you guys have no idea what it's like. it's not that easy. getting insulted and turned down and pushed over isn't easy. having half the guys you talk to thinking that he's "different" and soooo smart to ask you on a date (because no other customer has ever done that) without even tipping a buck onstage or saying that he doesn't get dances but he'll dance for you for 20 $ isn't easy.. having to pay a club for the chance to try to make money isn't easy (there are maybe 2 clubs in the entire US where the clubs pay the dancers, and they are in heavily male places like montana), with no guarantee that you'll make it back. knowing that no one will want to date you, but everyone will want to use you isn't easy. spending 8 hours on you feet in heels getting one hell of a quad workout isn't easy. yeah, the money can be good.

most of the girls i work with (at a good club, not a ghetto club) don't buy flashy stuff. they put their money into investments for the future or to pay for school, since we all know that you can't do this forever. you can't get much of a job with a high school education, and for the girls who have kids, there's pretty much no way to get above the poverty line making minimum wage, unless they marry someone who's got money...which is pretty much prostitution, if we want to be honest about it. for what you have to do (not prostitution, just the part where you get mentally and physically tired from all of it), we don't usually make all that much. 200-300 a shift is average. that comes to about 50,000 a year. how much bling can a person really get making that when car payments and rent and utilities can take up half of that? after putting money into savings and buying food and gas?

frankly, the only thing "easy" about the money is that there usually aren't that many girls to compete with, because most of them think that we're whores. and most women aren't strong enough to make the sacrifices necessary (like being eternally single and having to lose "friends" because most other people our age think we're whores too).


and again, if a "stripper" let your friend slide his dick inside her for extra money, she's a prostitute, not a stripper. but if it happened in missouri, i wouldn't be surprised. like i said, there are some places where prostitutes in strip clubs are pretty common.
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Posted by curious visitor
lol. you guys have no idea what it's like. it's not that easy. getting insulted and turned down and pushed over isn't easy. having half the guys you talk to thinking that he's "different" and soooo smart to ask you on a date (because no other customer has ever done that) without even tipping a buck onstage or saying that he doesn't get dances but he'll dance for you for 20 $ isn't easy.. having to pay a club for the chance to try to make money isn't easy (there are maybe 2 clubs in the entire US where the clubs pay the dancers, and they are in heavily male places like montana), with no guarantee that you'll make it back. knowing that no one will want to date you, but everyone will want to use you isn't easy. spending 8 hours on you feet in heels getting one hell of a quad workout isn't easy. yeah, the money can be good.

most of the girls i work with (at a good club, not a ghetto club) don't buy flashy stuff. they put their money into investments for the future or to pay for school, since we all know that you can't do this forever. you can't get much of a job with a high school education, and for the girls who have kids, there's pretty much no way to get above the poverty line making minimum wage, unless they marry someone who's got money...which is pretty much prostitution, if we want to be honest about it. for what you have to do (not prostitution, just the part where you get mentally and physically tired from all of it), we don't usually make all that much. 200-300 a shift is average. that comes to about 50,000 a year. how much bling can a person really get making that when car payments and rent and utilities can take up half of that? after putting money into savings and buying food and gas?

frankly, the only thing "easy" about the money is that there usually aren't that many girls to compete with, because most of them think that we're whores. and most women aren't strong enough to make the sacrifices necessary (like being eternally single and having to lose "friends" because most other people our age think we're whores too).


and again, if a "stripper" let your friend slide his dick inside her for extra money, she's a prostitute, not a stripper. but if it happened in missouri, i wouldn't be surprised. like i said, there are some places where prostitutes in strip clubs are pretty common.




Actually it didnt happen in missouri, lmao. I
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Exactly, prostitution is legal but stripping isnt? its damn near the same thing, my friend had a stripper slide his dick in him for extra money during a lap dance,.... and apprently more than just her.... if a man wants to see exotic dancing, his woman should do it for him, and she should gt the money for new shoes damnit!!!! lol



i dont go to strip clubs its lame if i wan to have sexy
i go home to my gurl ( CancerianGoddess )
and its just not my thing i have never been and i wont ever go

ok the love of my life posted this and im goin to hold her to it
im going to make her dance for tho's new shoes she wants
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My post didnt post all the way guess it ran outta room, damn! Glad i CCP'd it before i quoted, damn i am smart!! lol
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Actually it didnt happen in missouri, lmao. It happend in a differant state, i have lived in 6 differant states btw....


If you have to compare marriage to stripping that your concious is obviously feeling guilty and insecure about,thats SAD. If i have sex with my husband and he buys me new shoes later on, he bought it with "OUR" Money. When your married, it isnt some strange drooling mans money that you have never met. Its your other halfs, which is also yours since you are both one. You make babies together,cry together,laugh together,go through many expieriences tgether. You share everything including money. Marriage is NOT legalized prostitution, if you think that than you are very very sad!
If you wanna srip becuase basically you are saying its much easier, good for you. As for me i rather have my dignity. I Wouldnt want my kids to know later on that the new video game i bought them was with some old sweaty married guys money that i showed my tatas too. No thanks, i will pass. But kiddos to you! In some cases strippers are the cause of divorce or breakups. So if your okay with showin some butt and taking money from a man with someone and being the cause over their breakup just for a little extra bling... good for you! (sarcasam should be implied).....

*ugh*
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Hey Curious Visitor,
Don't let other peoples judgements get to you.
It's easier for people to look down on others as opposed to facing themselves and their own
shortcomings.
My friend's older sister used to be an exotic dancer.
She was responsible with her money and now is a successful owner of her own business.
She wasn't lazy and always taking an easy way out of things.
There was one acquaintance in particular who had a very negative attitude towards her. It was
funny because this girl would go from one man to the next. They would use her, cheat on her
and dump her. At least if she had charged she would've had something to show for herself besides
being a welcome mat to users.
People can go on all day about why you don't live up to their standards, but who cares, you
don't know what's really going on in their lives and what standards they fail to meet.

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When it comes down to stripping as a job, I'm going to just say that with any AND every job, there are some bad seeds. The same goes for politics, education, sports, entertainment, etc. The sex industry in general is usually looked down upon b/c yes, while it does sell it also gives leeway to lots of sexual crimes & perverts. Not all strippers are bad women who aren't worthy. Some women will do what they have to do. The problem is that the sex industry is one of those industries where alot of the rules are often broken & where the laws often go unnoticed. That is the problem. At the end of the day, if a man went to a strip club there's a good chance that those strippers might not really want him anyway; after all, they've seen it all and heard it all. But I just feel that it's the principle. Sure, a man can hang around a bunch of drug dealers all day & actually NOT sell drugs or engage in the activities that his friends engage in. BUT, some women would still have a problem with that b/c of the potential risks he's taking & b/c of the "rules broken" environment he'd be putting himself in. It's the same with strippers. It's not that he'll cheat just b/c he mainly went to a strip club. I just feel that there are certain places where comitted men ought not go