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The Jealousy Game and Astrology
Has the game been played on you? What was the outcome? Did you play it back? Did you walk away? Did they apologize and come clean? What was your response?
List your venus sign when answering, please.
List your venus sign when answering, please.
Posted by Arielle83
I've had it done to me by a venus in scorpio. I found it pathetic and actually made me walk away. They got the opposite reaction they wanted because I don't do competition. If you want to be with me, you want to be with me. Any other option, I don't have time to deal with. I won't wait for the games to stop, I'll just move on to someone who isn't pathetic. I'm a venus in virgo.
I kind of figured that another water venus or an earth venus would feel the same.
Venus in scorpio, I suppose is quite capable of playing the game. I think it would be a last ditch effort for one that is pretty obsessed with somebody and feels like they are losing them. It is hard for a scorpio venus to let someone go and not give it all they've got to keep them.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberryDo you play the jealousy game?
No.
However, I've been accused of doing it in the past. I can only chalk that up to their insecurities.
Has the game been played on you?
I don't know because I'm completely oblivious to such things. I know there are times I've gotten jealous but it wasn't prompted by my partner, it was prompted by my own imagination.
-Libra Venusclick to expand
I can see that. So it wasn't a game set up by them on purpose probably. Just a misunderstanding. That's different than the game.
Leo Venus / 1st House
I have never played the jealousy game. It seems counter productive and a waste of time.
However, I can be flirty. Especially if I am in a securely committed relationship. If I'm happy and in mutual love with someone, it just naturally bubbles over to all other people and areas in my life. I don't mean anything by it though - I would flirt with a mirror if it was the only thing around.
I make sure my partner knows this up front though. Because I am pretty jealous and possessive myself, so I'd hate for them to feel that way. :/
I have never played the jealousy game. It seems counter productive and a waste of time.
However, I can be flirty. Especially if I am in a securely committed relationship. If I'm happy and in mutual love with someone, it just naturally bubbles over to all other people and areas in my life. I don't mean anything by it though - I would flirt with a mirror if it was the only thing around.
I make sure my partner knows this up front though. Because I am pretty jealous and possessive myself, so I'd hate for them to feel that way. :/
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I have to ask though.....
could it sometimes be perceived as game playing when it isn't game playing at all?
I mean, I'm friendly to a fault sometimes.....and partners in the past may have perceived that as flirting or "playing the game", when that wasn't the case at all.
Then, another scenario, I may simply be talking about someone of the opposite sex that my partner feels somehow threatened by and instead of listening to what I'm saying.....of which has nothing to do with my interest romantically or sexually in the person......they start seething with jealousy.
To me, it usually circles right back to insecurities.
Don't get me wrong though, I KNOW people *do* sometimes use jealousy as a tool.....I've read it on dxp numerous times. I don't understand the person AT ALL that does that because it makes zero logical sense to me, unless they just need some type of unhealhty validation or something.
Sure it can be misperceived as a game when it's not intentional, and sure, it circles from their insecurities. I'm talking about intentionally setting out to do it as a tool.
Posted by Andalusia
Leo Venus / 1st House
I have never played the jealousy game. It seems counter productive and a waste of time.
However, I can be flirty. Especially if I am in a securely committed relationship. If I'm happy and in mutual love with someone, it just naturally bubbles over to all other people and areas in my life. I don't mean anything by it though - I would flirt with a mirror if it was the only thing around.
I make sure my partner knows this up front though. Because I am pretty jealous and possessive myself, so I'd hate for them to feel that way. :/
It's good that you tell them up front that you don't mean anything by it. It will relieve their insecurity and they won't be threatened by it.
I hate games but I do slightly play them for kicks. Like when a message or call comes through & I act all secretive when someone asks me who it was. It makes me laugh when they grab the phone. It's all silliness on my part though, nothing serious.
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
Posted by tiziani
Well being strictly honest I think it's dramatic to take one placement in a chart in isolation and justify our behaviour on that but I am a Virgo Venus and yeah I'm not competitive at all. Anytime a girlfriend has indicated or acted as though they want to be with someone else I was the first person to encourage them to do so. Some felt cheap, others were disappointed in me for the "lack of fight". I put it down to I am not competitive in romance.
My ex husband was upset, I think, that I walked rather than fought for him when he had his affair. Just not worth it.
Posted by WaterCup
I hate games but I do slightly play them for kicks. Like when a message or call comes through & I act all secretive when someone asks me who it was. It makes me laugh when they grab the phone. It's all silliness on my part though, nothing serious.
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
I can see a scorpio with scorpio venus doing that. Love would equal jealousy to them. Pretty messed up though.
Maybe my cap sun keeps me from doing it since caps are pretty direct and generally not game players unless we are pushed into it and would participate for spite.
I think some Scorpio Suns with Scorp Venus are just bad communicators. Their actions can be interpreted as game playing because they just expect you to *know* the how/what/why/when behind all their actions without them having to explain themselves. Because they usually know the how/what/why/when behind all of YOUR actions, without you having to explain yourself.
But it's a bit of a double standard, IMO. Because if you don't communicate your reasoning to them, they get suspicious.
But it's a bit of a double standard, IMO. Because if you don't communicate your reasoning to them, they get suspicious.
Wow, you are the perfect person to talk to about my situation. So I moved onto my Sag sun/cap moon/sag mars and yes Scorp Venus BF. Everyone knows sag unconsciously flirt for sport. He does it by Walking around with his shirt off when we go to events (we're in a motor club together) and flirting in the group chat. But LAWD!! When I do it, the world ends. I don't even do it on purpose, but we talked about it and I told him I was sorry and I had to get used to being in a relationship again; I was honest. From then on I avoided all guys in the group like the plague yet he still continues to do it. I'm like whatever, he knows what home is.
*Side note*
I could use some help. He is a Cap stellium, sag sum, cap moon just like myself. The other day we got into. I made a joke saying you can(do something...I forgot what) when you love me. Then he said he doesn't do love and if that's what I'm looking for I'm lookin in the wrong direction. So I say," cool well we don't need to be together because I was want a man you knows how feel love". The he said that" I guess that's how its going to be." It hurt, yeap but I got up and wen to work the next day.
He texted me around 1pm (the same time he gets up every day, he works nights) Saying "what's up with you" . I was dry and he could tell. Then I told him the only reason he need to contact me is for our club and our Company and he needed to do that thru mail. He was LIVID!!! So we text back and forth to and finally got to the truth. I threw the L word out to soon for him. I told him it was a joke!! After we figured out the disconnect I asked him could we kiss and make up and he said no. Lies he tells...he said it's going to take some time to take me back. We have a trip planned today and he's still going. He's warming up each day.
My question is How do I get out of the dog house? I told him I fight for the thing I want and I was never letting him go. He said prove it.....HOW do I do that?!?!
*Side note*
I could use some help. He is a Cap stellium, sag sum, cap moon just like myself. The other day we got into. I made a joke saying you can(do something...I forgot what) when you love me. Then he said he doesn't do love and if that's what I'm looking for I'm lookin in the wrong direction. So I say," cool well we don't need to be together because I was want a man you knows how feel love". The he said that" I guess that's how its going to be." It hurt, yeap but I got up and wen to work the next day.
He texted me around 1pm (the same time he gets up every day, he works nights) Saying "what's up with you" . I was dry and he could tell. Then I told him the only reason he need to contact me is for our club and our Company and he needed to do that thru mail. He was LIVID!!! So we text back and forth to and finally got to the truth. I threw the L word out to soon for him. I told him it was a joke!! After we figured out the disconnect I asked him could we kiss and make up and he said no. Lies he tells...he said it's going to take some time to take me back. We have a trip planned today and he's still going. He's warming up each day.
My question is How do I get out of the dog house? I told him I fight for the thing I want and I was never letting him go. He said prove it.....HOW do I do that?!?!
Posted by Sagtastic2
Wow, you are the perfect person to talk to about my situation. So I moved onto my Sag sun/cap moon/sag mars and yes Scorp Venus BF. Everyone knows sag unconsciously flirt for sport. He does it by Walking around with his shirt off when we go to events (we're in a motor club together) and flirting in the group chat. But LAWD!! When I do it, the world ends. I don't even do it on purpose, but we talked about it and I told him I was sorry and I had to get used to being in a relationship again; I was honest. From then on I avoided all guys in the group like the plague yet he still continues to do it. I'm like whatever, he knows what home is.
*Side note*
I could use some help. He is a Cap stellium, sag sum, cap moon just like myself. The other day we got into. I made a joke saying you can(do something...I forgot what) when you love me. Then he said he doesn't do love and if that's what I'm looking for I'm lookin in the wrong direction. So I say," cool well we don't need to be together because I was want a man you knows how feel love". The he said that" I guess that's how its going to be." It hurt, yeap but I got up and wen to work the next day.
He texted me around 1pm (the same time he gets up every day, he works nights) Saying "what's up with you" . I was dry and he could tell. Then I told him the only reason he need to contact me is for our club and our Company and he needed to do that thru mail. He was LIVID!!! So we text back and forth to and finally got to the truth. I threw the L word out to soon for him. I told him it was a joke!! After we figured out the disconnect I asked him could we kiss and make up and he said no. Lies he tells...he said it's going to take some time to take me back. We have a trip planned today and he's still going. He's warming up each day.
My question is How do I get out of the dog house? I told him I fight for the thing I want and I was never letting him go. He said prove it.....HOW do I do that?!?!
How long have yall been together?
Actually, I don't think you did anything wrong. It takes a while for scorp venus to love and trust and all that. But you were joking, he should understand that. And yes, there probably is a double standard with us. We know what we're doing is innocent (or not, we are secretive), but we don't know whether what you're doing is innocent. Scorp venus is suspicious by nature
*got cut off*
Too soon for love words huh? Maybe he isn't ready to talk about that. But it was a joke, surely he'd understand that. But okay, he says he's not looking for love. Well, I don't blame you. When a man says this he means it. So you did the right thing based on what he said. He didn't like it. Well, could be he was either offended because you're taking the cookie away or he was hurt that you didn't give him time to fall in love with you and just cut him off without giving him a chance. Don't know what direction to take that one either.
Proving it? Hmmm....takes time and consistency for that. I don't know though, you need to make sure he's worth it. Because proving it means you aren't flirting and talking with anyone else, not going out with the friends, giving him nothing to doubt. If he is serious about you, he would want you to stake a claim in public via body language (flirting openly, touching often, etc), he would expect you to say things like "cover up those muscles. They're mine, don't want anyone else looking at them and getting naughty thoughts. Sure would hate to cut a bitch out here". Proving it is all through actions. Can't use words, can't buy it through gifts, can't use sex, can't overly romance him - he'll see through anything but actions.
Whatever you do, be true to yourself and don't tolerate him playing around.
Too soon for love words huh? Maybe he isn't ready to talk about that. But it was a joke, surely he'd understand that. But okay, he says he's not looking for love. Well, I don't blame you. When a man says this he means it. So you did the right thing based on what he said. He didn't like it. Well, could be he was either offended because you're taking the cookie away or he was hurt that you didn't give him time to fall in love with you and just cut him off without giving him a chance. Don't know what direction to take that one either.
Proving it? Hmmm....takes time and consistency for that. I don't know though, you need to make sure he's worth it. Because proving it means you aren't flirting and talking with anyone else, not going out with the friends, giving him nothing to doubt. If he is serious about you, he would want you to stake a claim in public via body language (flirting openly, touching often, etc), he would expect you to say things like "cover up those muscles. They're mine, don't want anyone else looking at them and getting naughty thoughts. Sure would hate to cut a bitch out here". Proving it is all through actions. Can't use words, can't buy it through gifts, can't use sex, can't overly romance him - he'll see through anything but actions.
Whatever you do, be true to yourself and don't tolerate him playing around.
No more than a month. The conversation went down via text in the middle of the night. Words can be interpreted anyway without seeing a person's body language.
I think he needs sex too, I know I do. It's been two weeks, but he works nights and I work days so it's hard to see each other.
Tonight I'm going to give him a massage with lavender oil (his favorite smell and mine) get him tipsy, and bang his brains out. I think he will be fine in the morning.
Do you have any other suggestions?
I think he needs sex too, I know I do. It's been two weeks, but he works nights and I work days so it's hard to see each other.
Tonight I'm going to give him a massage with lavender oil (his favorite smell and mine) get him tipsy, and bang his brains out. I think he will be fine in the morning.
Do you have any other suggestions?
Make him laugh and keep it fun. That might help too.
Of course the prove it could have been a challenge all decorated with fun. Know what I mean? That does sound like something I would say. Cuff him and tell him his proof is you releasing him and not holding him hostage. hahahaha!!!
Seriously, that would be a fun way to handle it.
Seriously, that would be a fun way to handle it.
He broke it down later and said that it was too soon to be talking about love and that it takes time to grow. I said "DUH silly, I know".
He's worth it when he's not in his feelings. He is on time, consistent, GOAL ORIENTED!!!!!!, sweet, the man in bed, cocky yet humble.....the list goes on!
He's worth it when he's not in his feelings. He is on time, consistent, GOAL ORIENTED!!!!!!, sweet, the man in bed, cocky yet humble.....the list goes on!
Posted by tizianiPosted by Sagtastic2
Everyone knows sag unconsciously flirt for sport. He does it by Walking around with his shirt off when we go to events (we're in a motor club together) and flirting in the group chat. But LAWD!! When I do it, the world ends. I don't even do it on purpose, but we talked about it and I told him I was sorry and I had to get used to being in a relationship again
That's the thing I don't vibe with people who are anti-flirting. No offence to anyone here as obviously we don't all see the same way.
But it's like why should anyone have to "get used" to being in a relationship? Only thing people should spend their lives getting used to is being themselves. I think I am starting to like what little I know about Sags but I know nothing.click to expand
Tiz, I was extra on the flirting. He had reason one time. Anything else is harmless and I don't see smiling and being friendly with someone as flirting.
Then it was all a misunderstanding. Good thing yall talked about it and cleared the air. Carry on as usual.
Posted by truecap
Of course the prove it could have been a challenge all decorated with fun. Know what I mean? That does sound like something I would say. Cuff him and tell him his proof is you releasing him and not holding him hostage. hahahaha!!!
Seriously, that would be a fun way to handle it.
YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M going to the nauty store after work.
Oh I still claim him. I didn't take my #TAKENbyHIM off of Instagram because he's is mine and I am his. I already told him the only way I would let him go is if they pry him from my cold dead hands.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberryDo you play the jealousy game?
No.
However, I've been accused of doing it in the past. I can only chalk that up to their insecurities.
Has the game been played on you?
I don't know because I'm completely oblivious to such things. I know there are times I've gotten jealous but it wasn't prompted by my partner, it was prompted by my own imagination.
-Libra Venusclick to expand
Same here but Gemini Venus. I will not flirt with others if I'm really into someone. That's not cool and besides I'd rather flirt with the one I'm already with.
At one point I became been tired of waiting on a certain person to make up their mind about me and would move on but that's not making someone jealous. That wasn't my intention. I'm not wasting my time on someone not interested. If they think that's what I'm doing then that's their problem for assuming. And they're wrong. I'm on to the next one.
Posted by WaterCup
I hate games but I do slightly play them for kicks. Like when a message or call comes through & I act all secretive when someone asks me who it was. It makes me laugh when they grab the phone. It's all silliness on my part though, nothing serious.
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
Is that what that is—? I was asked out by a Venus in Scorpio to watch a movie no follow up so I didn't take it serious then after another time hanging out he asks me to go to a baseball game... no follow up. I'm really annoyed with that. That's the thing I'm supposed to remind him? I'm too old for that crap.
Venus in Cancer in the 8th.
...No.
Jealousy is a negative emotion..why would I inflict that on my partner?
None of my partners made me jealous on purpose, to prove a point or out of insecurity. Or maybe they did but it didn't register? I'm not jealous at all.
Possessive..whole different ball game.
...No.
Jealousy is a negative emotion..why would I inflict that on my partner?
None of my partners made me jealous on purpose, to prove a point or out of insecurity. Or maybe they did but it didn't register? I'm not jealous at all.
Possessive..whole different ball game.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I mean, I'm friendly to a fault sometimes.....and partners in the past may have perceived that as flirting or "playing the game", when that wasn't the case at all.
Oh boy, yes..friendly to a fault.
However I always check with them and there's this reassuring look that calms them down instantly, if they get caught up in the moment.
Posted by Damnata
Venus in Cancer in the 8th.
...No.
Jealousy is a negative emotion..why would I inflict that on my partner?
None of my partners made me jealous on purpose, to prove a point or out of insecurity. Or maybe they did but it didn't register? I'm not jealous at all.
Possessive..whole different ball game.
Ha! I have Mars in Aquarius in the 8th house. I'm not jealous at all but I am VERY territorial/possesive.
I have played the jealousy game before, but it was more so to give him a taste of his own medicine. I'm a Sagittarius with a venus in Sag and was dating a Cap with venus in capricorn. He had a gig where he worked the night scene. He flirted a lot, sometimes even in front of my face. He always used the excuse as it being apart of his job. I wanted him to know how it felt, so one night I invited a male friend out and I danced with the guy most of the night. My bf kept following me around the venue. Usually I would wait with my bf until the parties were over but this time I left early. He kept ringing my phone that night.
This was 6 years ago. It felt good at the time just to see how he reacted. After all, that's how I usually felt when he did it to me, but would I do it today? No. I would just simply break up with him.
This was 6 years ago. It felt good at the time just to see how he reacted. After all, that's how I usually felt when he did it to me, but would I do it today? No. I would just simply break up with him.
When im hurt and pissed off, anything goes.
Posted by WaterCup
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I can't stop laughing! Was he trying to test you, or entertain you? His attempt was a bit pathetic.
I'm not sure if someone (Venus in Libra, Sag, Aries, Aqua, Gemini) has ever tried to make me jealous, or test my patience.
But then, I almost never get jealous (Aqua Venus). As far as the patience goes.....I've dated four Aries Venus! Got annoyed with one of them and decided that we are not going to speak to each for seven days. The silence lasted only 24 hrs. I couldn't remember why I was upset, he couldn't remember that I forbade him to talk to me.
Posted by truecap
I've heard several people say "I tried to make him jealous to find out if he cared about me/to get a reaction from him/to see if he would step up".
These people need to be sterilized.
Posted by kissmygritsPosted by WaterCup
I hate games but I do slightly play them for kicks. Like when a message or call comes through & I act all secretive when someone asks me who it was. It makes me laugh when they grab the phone. It's all silliness on my part though, nothing serious.
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
Is that what that is—? I was asked out by a Venus in Scorpio to watch a movie no follow up so I didn't take it serious then after another time hanging out he asks me to go to a baseball game... no follow up. I'm really annoyed with that. That's the thing I'm supposed to remind him? I'm too old for that crap.click to expand
Exactly! Too old. And he was 10 years older. WTF?
I truly believe that's what they expect a person should do when they fake amnesia. Who has the time? Fact is, some of us have plan B incase plan A fail to happen. So I had other things to do. Definitely not going to sit by the window waiting until I grow roots on the spot. I keep busy & forget. They're some weird, indirect arses I tell you. You should learn mind reading skills just to deal or they'll interrogate you like a criminal. Whew
Posted by UndinePosted by WaterCup
IMO men with moon or venus in scorpio are the annoying kind of game players. They do it to get a reaction, to see if you care because jealousy to them = love.
My scorpio ex had venus in scorpio & he almost drove me mad with his games. One example is when he told me that he'd meet me or call me, can't remember, but whatever it was was supposed to be happening on a friday. Nothing happened friday, saturday & on sunday & I didnt bother following up either. Early on monday he called asking me why I didnt check up on him when he went MIA, what if he was in hospital or jail etc. He accused me of not caring. He wasnt in hospital or jail, he just decided to sleep the weekend away, so what the fuck is up with the fake scenarios. That annoyed me very, very much.
My venus is in Sagittarius, btw.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I can't stop laughing! Was he trying to test you, or entertain you? His attempt was a bit pathetic.
I'm not sure if someone (Venus in Libra, Sag, Aries, Aqua, Gemini) has ever tried to make me jealous, or test my patience.
But then, I almost never get jealous (Aqua Venus). As far as the patience goes.....I've dated four Aries Venus! Got annoyed with one of them and decided that we are not going to speak to each for seven days. The silence lasted only 24 hrs. I couldn't remember why I was upset, he couldn't remember that I forbade him to talk to me.
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LOL, I can relate to forgetting why I was angry in the 1st place & I think some of the men in my life took full advantage of it. It does come back to me though, usually when we are busy having a good time & I get angry all over again. I've been told that I'm crazy because of that sudden switch. Oh well.
I can't stand people who stay angry for days though, especially if I live with them. It makes me pack up my rags & leave. Silent treatment is ANNOYING. How do they do that?
I have venus in taurus.
I don't play the jealousy game. I can be really jealous, sometimes I know it is petty and I check myself, but the feelings are still there. My bf has a scorp venus. Luckily, he doesn't play games like that either.
I've had bfs in the past that did. I think he was a pisces with an aqua venus. He was such a cheater, constantly talking to other girls. For a long time I played. He was mine and I would win every single time. Fuck that, I'm not going down without a fight. Maybe it's my aries mars, but I can be a little competetive. I realize now that it's not healthy but with him for a long time it was "I don't really want you, but I don't want you with someone else". Yea... obviously that needed to end.
But idk if it's like trained into me now to fight and compete. If my bf now just gave up without any sort of resistance, no fight whatsoever... in my mind he didn't really want to be with me. I wouldn't play a game to.make him jealous, but if it did happen and he just walks away... nah that's weak. Fight for what you want, prove you want it. Gotta have some fight in you, definitely a turn on for me.
I don't play the jealousy game. I can be really jealous, sometimes I know it is petty and I check myself, but the feelings are still there. My bf has a scorp venus. Luckily, he doesn't play games like that either.
I've had bfs in the past that did. I think he was a pisces with an aqua venus. He was such a cheater, constantly talking to other girls. For a long time I played. He was mine and I would win every single time. Fuck that, I'm not going down without a fight. Maybe it's my aries mars, but I can be a little competetive. I realize now that it's not healthy but with him for a long time it was "I don't really want you, but I don't want you with someone else". Yea... obviously that needed to end.
But idk if it's like trained into me now to fight and compete. If my bf now just gave up without any sort of resistance, no fight whatsoever... in my mind he didn't really want to be with me. I wouldn't play a game to.make him jealous, but if it did happen and he just walks away... nah that's weak. Fight for what you want, prove you want it. Gotta have some fight in you, definitely a turn on for me.
Posted by truecap
I'm curious if other scorpio venus folks look at it the same way as I do....what's your opinion?
Pretty much everything you stated below (with minor edits of course 😉):
Posted by truecap
I'm a scorpio and I don't deal with jealousy very well. Yes, I will get jealous, but the reaction you're looking for is most likely going to be quite the opposite of what you want. Let me tell you why.
I look at it as [a] passive-aggressive game....
Also, on the commitment part, since I expect you to be committed, if you are flirting or doing things to make me jealous, then I will step back and question your commitment to me and the relationship. I will figure if you're flirting with other women, then you're not committed to me. With a scorpio, you're either all in or you're all out. If you're flirting with someone else, I'm assuming you're not all in. I'm not going to compete for you. Can't make someone be with you...
Another issue is trust. A scorpio needs trust in a relationship. If you're flirting/carrying on with other people, I'm not going to trust you. Even if you're doing it just to get a reaction from me and you're honest about that, I'm still not going to trust you. Once trust is broken, the relationship is done.
A scorpio will see it as a game. Not only will we lose respect for you and you will lose us...
Posted by truecap
Do you play the jealousy game?
No. I also don't engage other when they play it either. If it's earlier on in the relationship (dating stage), I'm done with it. No apology, no discussion about it. I'll just tell you straight, I'm no longer interested.
Posted by truecap
Has the game been played on you?click to expand
Yes. A lot more when I was younger (16 & 19 years old). Both water signs.
Posted by truecap
What was the outcome? Did you play it back? Did you walk away?
In one case I let it play out, but emotionally checked out and just stopped communicating with him when it continued. In the other case (I learned from the first time) it was called out for what it was immediately and the person was mentally/emotionally put into the "not long term material" category. I continued the relationship because the sex was good, but any discussion about the future was abruptly squashed or I'd literally walk away mid conversation. When I got bored of the relationship I ended it. Never reciprocated in both cases.
Posted by truecap
Did they apologize and come clean?
Water signs admit they are wrong? Pff! One just smirked and the other tried to play victim.
Posted by truecap
Venus signclick to expand
Sag
I think age can sometimes be a factor too
Hello, Miss. Truecap, I hope your day is well. I am a Venus in Taurus and, though I cannot say I have ever experienced this on a physical level, I do have a pretty firm understanding of how it would make one feel, to have a such trickery opened up on them.
I am a very strong minded and stable individual and, in the aspects of a relationship, I would have no jealousy, anger, or desire for "drama" of any type. I would give my utmost and unconditional trust and it would not be questioned, not even for a fleeting moment. However, with this given, it would most definitely be expected in return. In my mind's eye, it is an understanding of complete respect between the two, and respect for one another is very meaningful to me.
With all honesty, and I mean not to sound rude or offensive, but if this were to be played on me, it would be a clear sign that, this relationship wasn't meant to be. With all honesty, and pray forgive my harsh words, but I would cut ties all together because I'd not even call someone with the ability to do this, my friend.
Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion and I wish you a happy day.
I am a very strong minded and stable individual and, in the aspects of a relationship, I would have no jealousy, anger, or desire for "drama" of any type. I would give my utmost and unconditional trust and it would not be questioned, not even for a fleeting moment. However, with this given, it would most definitely be expected in return. In my mind's eye, it is an understanding of complete respect between the two, and respect for one another is very meaningful to me.
With all honesty, and I mean not to sound rude or offensive, but if this were to be played on me, it would be a clear sign that, this relationship wasn't meant to be. With all honesty, and pray forgive my harsh words, but I would cut ties all together because I'd not even call someone with the ability to do this, my friend.
Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion and I wish you a happy day.
Posted by Andalusia
I think some Scorpio Suns with Scorp Venus are just bad communicators. Their actions can be interpreted as game playing because they just expect you to *know* the how/what/why/when behind all their actions without them having to explain themselves. Because they usually know the how/what/why/when behind all of YOUR actions, without you having to explain yourself.
But it's a bit of a double standard, IMO. Because if you don't communicate your reasoning to them, they get suspicious.
I don think it's just the Scorp Sun/Scorp Venus combo. I see some of this in myself and I don't have a Venus is Scorp.
When I'm with someone and my phone rings, I always let it go to vm. I would expect you would just use common sense to realize it's basic courtesy to focus on the person you're with and not think I'm hiding a "secret" boyfriend. I'm not going to explain that to you and I don't think I should have to. If I do, that already tells me were gonna have a problem (e.g. more than likely you wouldn't put me first in the same scenario). Not fair, but tell my mind that.
If he does the same, I'm not going to assume the worst. However if you make gesture that grabs my attention when "addressing" the call or you send it to vm and the person is blowing up your phone, my Scorpy senses with be triggered and my mind is going into "store *this moment* away and see where that goes a few weeks from now" mode (e.g. does the person continuously get mentioned, call various hours of the night) and questions will be asked.
Oh boy...[Stats: Venus in Pisces 11th house + Hard Pluto aspects + Hard Moon Aspect]
"You dare to insult and disrespect like that? You want to play games? You have the audacity to try this crap on me? Who the hell do you think you are? You think I'm going to piss MY time playing your game? Okay. Since this is what you want...I'll give you what you deserve, nothing."
Then my Saturn/Pluto energy kicks up and I get sadistically cruel.
"Well it seems someone caught your eye~ Love ya, but it doesn't seem enough. Have fun with your rebound, we are done."
or
"Think he'll give you what you need? Good luck, I'm gone. Enjoy playing your insecure games with someone who has time to piss on it."
Then I could just go off to talk/party/etc with other people. I can forgive them if they ask for it, but I won't be dating them anymore. I do not have to tolerate that insecurity well if at all.
"You dare to insult and disrespect like that? You want to play games? You have the audacity to try this crap on me? Who the hell do you think you are? You think I'm going to piss MY time playing your game? Okay. Since this is what you want...I'll give you what you deserve, nothing."
Then my Saturn/Pluto energy kicks up and I get sadistically cruel.
"Well it seems someone caught your eye~ Love ya, but it doesn't seem enough. Have fun with your rebound, we are done."
or
"Think he'll give you what you need? Good luck, I'm gone. Enjoy playing your insecure games with someone who has time to piss on it."
Then I could just go off to talk/party/etc with other people. I can forgive them if they ask for it, but I won't be dating them anymore. I do not have to tolerate that insecurity well if at all.
What are your opinions?
Games are a form of manipulation, I really dont have time for them. Even when I was younger I was always serious about the matters of the heart. If I didnt like a guy I told him, If I liked a guy I would tell him. If he wasnt into me, I moved on the the next.
Do you play the jealousy game?
No I dont play the jealousy game. But I have been accused of doing it. That is why I stopped dating guys in class or at work. They would say that I was trying to make them jealous when I was only working with my coworker. Who was married ffs get over yourself! Then in college, hello I have chem lab/engineering partners!
What circumstances prompted you to play? N/A
Has the game been played on you?Did you play it back? Did you walk away?
My taurus ex i dated in college tried to make me jealous with this girl he tutored. He would rub her back and put his hand on her thigh trying to make me jealous. It didnt have an affect on me. So when I am with my engineering buddies he was totally jealous, telling me to leave or come with him. umm, no! I told him, I'm not playing this game with you. I have to get my work done your jealousy and game playing is not going to ruin my grade. I dont have time to pacify your feelings. I was graduating, I didnt have time for that crap.
What was the outcome?
I broke it off. My 5th year of college I was graduating and I got a job offer in Illinois. I wasnt spending that much time with him anyway. If he wanted to blatantly flirt with another girl in public, go right ahead.
Did they apologize and come clean? What was your response?
yea he admitted what he was doing and apologized. I just said, "I know". He said that it backfired in his face. I told him, 'well lesson learned".
Venus in Aquarius 🙂
Games are a form of manipulation, I really dont have time for them. Even when I was younger I was always serious about the matters of the heart. If I didnt like a guy I told him, If I liked a guy I would tell him. If he wasnt into me, I moved on the the next.
Do you play the jealousy game?
No I dont play the jealousy game. But I have been accused of doing it. That is why I stopped dating guys in class or at work. They would say that I was trying to make them jealous when I was only working with my coworker. Who was married ffs get over yourself! Then in college, hello I have chem lab/engineering partners!
What circumstances prompted you to play? N/A
Has the game been played on you?Did you play it back? Did you walk away?
My taurus ex i dated in college tried to make me jealous with this girl he tutored. He would rub her back and put his hand on her thigh trying to make me jealous. It didnt have an affect on me. So when I am with my engineering buddies he was totally jealous, telling me to leave or come with him. umm, no! I told him, I'm not playing this game with you. I have to get my work done your jealousy and game playing is not going to ruin my grade. I dont have time to pacify your feelings. I was graduating, I didnt have time for that crap.
What was the outcome?
I broke it off. My 5th year of college I was graduating and I got a job offer in Illinois. I wasnt spending that much time with him anyway. If he wanted to blatantly flirt with another girl in public, go right ahead.
Did they apologize and come clean? What was your response?
yea he admitted what he was doing and apologized. I just said, "I know". He said that it backfired in his face. I told him, 'well lesson learned".
Venus in Aquarius 🙂
I don't get jealous. I'll just get even. 😄
Me = Venus Scorp
Some guy tried that with me once. A Scorpio with Libra Venus.
I saw it as an invitation to instantly scrap him and hop right back into the dating market without even telling him, since I no longer took him seriously at that point anyway. In no time at all, I found someone else.
One day this Scorp texts me confronting me for not contacting him lately, and I truthfully told him that I was busy with my boyfriend.
He.flipped.the.HOLYFUCK.out.
I shrugged and said "ciao". I mean, what did he expect?
Of course, he went on a stalking and threatening rampage, so I had a mess to deal with anyway. smh
Some guy tried that with me once. A Scorpio with Libra Venus.
I saw it as an invitation to instantly scrap him and hop right back into the dating market without even telling him, since I no longer took him seriously at that point anyway. In no time at all, I found someone else.
One day this Scorp texts me confronting me for not contacting him lately, and I truthfully told him that I was busy with my boyfriend.
He.flipped.the.HOLYFUCK.out.
I shrugged and said "ciao". I mean, what did he expect?
Of course, he went on a stalking and threatening rampage, so I had a mess to deal with anyway. smh
Posted by truecap
I've heard several people say "I tried to make him jealous to find out if he cared about me/to get a reaction from him/to see if he would step up". I just want to say, in my opinion, this is never going to work and is not going to get you the results you are hoping for.
I'm a scorpio venus and I don't deal with jealousy very well. Yes, I will get jealous, but the reaction you're looking for is most likely going to be quite the opposite of what you want. Let me tell you why.
A scorpio venus is willing to commit. We need and expect commitment from our partners. Therefore, if you feel the need to make me jealous, then obviously there is something you're not getting from me that you need and I look at it as why play passive-aggressive games instead of talking to me openly.
Also, on the commitment part, since I expect you to be committed, if you are flirting or doing things to make me jealous, then I will step back and question your commitment to me and the relationship. I will figure if you're flirting with other guys, then you're not committed to me. With a scorpio venus, you're either all in or you're all out. If you're flirting with someone else, I'm assuming you're not all in. I'm not going to compete for you. Can't make someone be with you when they'd rather be with someone else.
Another issue is trust. A scorpio venus needs trust in a relationship. If you're flirting/carrying on with other people, I'm not going to trust you. Even if you're doing it just to get a reaction from me and you're honest about that, I'm still not going to trust you. Once trust is broken, the relationship is done.
I think a scorpio venus would see it as a betrayal. Betray a scorpio venus and watch what happens. You will lose us forever and you better hope we don't try to get revenge on you.
It's a dangerous game you're playing when you try to make someone jealous. A scorpio venus will see it as a game. Not only will we lose respect for you and you will lose us, we might decide to engage in the game and it's a game you will lose.
That's just my opinion on the jealousy game. I'm curious if other scorpio venus folks look at it the same way as I do. So please chime in and let me know if your opinions match up to mine.
I know I directed my I'm also curious to how other venus signs interpret the jealousy game.
What are your opinions?
Do you play the jealo
Posted by tiziani
Well being strictly honest I think it's dramatic to take one placement in a chart in isolation and justify our behaviour on that but I am a Virgo Venus and yeah I'm not competitive at all. Anytime a girlfriend has indicated or acted as though they want to be with someone else I was the first person to encourage them to do so. Some felt cheap, others were disappointed in me for the "lack of fight". I put it down to I am not competitive in romance.
Ah ha so that's it.
I dated a Libra sun, Virgo Venus.
He encouraged me to date someone else when I pulled that game on him. LOL
My Leo Venus was so disappointed.
Venus in Cancer
I have not played the jealousy game. Though my exes have always been jealous when I have my girl friends around.
I have been played, that was my Aries girl who did it. Asked her why and just wanted to test me accordingly. I was mad at first, but I thought we were both young and probably just part of it. It was cute though, for me, for her to be doing that just to know if i love her that much.
I have not played the jealousy game. Though my exes have always been jealous when I have my girl friends around.
I have been played, that was my Aries girl who did it. Asked her why and just wanted to test me accordingly. I was mad at first, but I thought we were both young and probably just part of it. It was cute though, for me, for her to be doing that just to know if i love her that much.
Pisces, Venus in Cap... I loathe the jealousy game, because I don't invite enough interest to be sure of my partner when I have one, much less to flirt with other people. Usually too grateful to have someone at all to try to drive them away like that. Never had anyone try it with me more than once because I just kind of wilt and go puppy-eyed on them. "...Oh. Well. Okay. I kind of figured you'd get tired of me pretty quickly. Do what makes you happy." Half the time I get dumped anyway because a lot of folk are driven away by my complete lack of self-esteem. 😆
However, I've been doing ye olde dance of courtship with a Scorp/ScorpVenus lately, and he doesn't get jealous... just POSSESSIVE. We're not dating, much less committed, but any time I make a reference to anything or anyone sexually or romantically that isn't him (even things years in the past) he gets all scowly and it's the weirdest damn thing (but also super adorable). I called him on it once and he just gave me this LOOK and said he tended to get possessive. I pointed out that he hadn't made any claim on me, so it was a bit unwarranted but that I didn't mind, and he just harumphed. It's a very gratifying feeling, oddly. I find it strange that someone might want me all to themselves. Maybe that's why I've never really tried the jealousy game: I can't see it working for me.
However, I've been doing ye olde dance of courtship with a Scorp/ScorpVenus lately, and he doesn't get jealous... just POSSESSIVE. We're not dating, much less committed, but any time I make a reference to anything or anyone sexually or romantically that isn't him (even things years in the past) he gets all scowly and it's the weirdest damn thing (but also super adorable). I called him on it once and he just gave me this LOOK and said he tended to get possessive. I pointed out that he hadn't made any claim on me, so it was a bit unwarranted but that I didn't mind, and he just harumphed. It's a very gratifying feeling, oddly. I find it strange that someone might want me all to themselves. Maybe that's why I've never really tried the jealousy game: I can't see it working for me.
I don't trust easily, you have to earned it. Also it takes some major red flags to see that anyways. You won't see it. You'll see my possessive side before jealousy. If its a guy I am dealing with like my cheating ex. First listen to your gut, second watch his behaviour, Then all hell breaks loose if I catch you lying to my face and I already have the proof. Haha. Cause now I want to know who you are with, who are you on the phone with, and why are you coming home late. Then you see the jealousy and anger building. I hate jealousy. It can make you psycho and sick. Are we are typically sane and healthy people.
I am venus in Taurus and it's this side that jealousy lingers until provoked. My Aquarius side doesn't care what you do, who you take to, how many female friends you have. Idc.. Then again it takes very little to set it off. It's not a game to test. I would just hope you have morals, respect for yourself and others, and raised right.
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I'm a scorpio venus and I don't deal with jealousy very well. Yes, I will get jealous, but the reaction you're looking for is most likely going to be quite the opposite of what you want. Let me tell you why.
A scorpio venus is willing to commit. We need and expect commitment from our partners. Therefore, if you feel the need to make me jealous, then obviously there is something you're not getting from me that you need and I look at it as why play passive-aggressive games instead of talking to me openly.
Also, on the commitment part, since I expect you to be committed, if you are flirting or doing things to make me jealous, then I will step back and question your commitment to me and the relationship. I will figure if you're flirting with other guys, then you're not committed to me. With a scorpio venus, you're either all in or you're all out. If you're flirting with someone else, I'm assuming you're not all in. I'm not going to compete for you. Can't make someone be with you when they'd rather be with someone else.
Another issue is trust. A scorpio venus needs trust in a relationship. If you're flirting/carrying on with other people, I'm not going to trust you. Even if you're doing it just to get a reaction from me and you're honest about that, I'm still not going to trust you. Once trust is broken, the relationship is done.
I think a scorpio venus would see it as a betrayal. Betray a scorpio venus and watch what happens. You will lose us forever and you better hope we don't try to get revenge on you.
It's a dangerous game you're playing when you try to make someone jealous. A scorpio venus will see it as a game. Not only will we lose respect for you and you will lose us, we might decide to engage in the game and it's a game you will lose.
That's just my opinion on the jealousy game. I'm curious if other scorpio venus folks look at it the same way as I do. So please chime in and let me know if your opinions match up to mine.
I know I directed my I'm also curious to how other venus signs interpret the jealousy game.
What are your opinions?
Do you play the jealousy game? What circumstances prompted you to play?
Has the game been played on you? What was t