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Posted by TasteOfChaosss

Aquas for example don't give enough affection, which turns me into a clingy mess.

Leos give TOOOOOO much affection, which as a result turns me into an Aqua.



It's funny you used these two as examples. I have had very similar experiences. I was with a Leo for a few years and she was very affectionate. I am too though so it worked well for a while but I did eventually feel like it was too much. With the Aqua, getting affection is like pulling teeth. It makes it hard with the level of inependence and freedom they desire. One is up your ass all the time, the other seems to not care if you are even there.


How do you find balance when one person has such different wants/needs than the other does?


Is it always unbalanced like this? Is it either be starved or drowned with it?
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Posted by lildol
Showing affection: isn't that like doing someone's taxes for them, helping them manage their budget or make more efficient use of their time? Anything to try to help them get ahead in life really.



Is this semantics or is what you described intimacy?

What is the difference between affection and intimacy in your opinion?


I always kind of thought of it like intimacy would be intangibles and affection would be tangible. Intimacy is the time you spend together helping each other grow as individuals or in your relationship (romantic or not). Affection is displays, hand holding, hugs, etc.


Am I way out in left field?
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There is a line for me lol, I wouldn't want to 'make out' in public... Well, not unless things started getting kinky, but then we aren't talking normal everyday behavior. Just random trips out, I like when my woman takes my arm or hand while we are walking around. I love the closeness when we are waiting in a line and she leans back on me, small stuff. I don't want someone to be attached at the hip, we can walk around seperately if we are shopping for different stuff, whatever. Leaving for or coming home from work, I like a hug and kiss. I like putting my hand on her leg and moving my thumb back and forth sometimes when we are sitting together, driving around, watching tv, etc.

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Yeah making out in public is too cheesy even for me, but you can't go wrong with a little touchy-feely at times. This makes me think of one of my new colleagues at work, she gets very physical when we're interacting, like strokes my arm and shoulder , which is kind of weird since we've only known eachother for a couple of weeks....

Btw she's a Cap with plenty of water and fire in her chart. I'm sure you'll hear more about her in time 😉
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Showing affection: isn't that like doing someone's taxes for them, helping them manage their budget or make more efficient use of their time? Anything to try to help them get ahead in life really.



Is this semantics or is what you described intimacy?

What is the difference between affection and intimacy in your opinion?


I always kind of thought of it like intimacy would be intangibles and affection would be tangible. Intimacy is the time you spend together helping each other grow as individuals or in your relationship (romantic or not). Affection is displays, hand holding, hugs, etc.


Am I way out in left field?
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Intimacy is more about emotional closeness and feelings, but not necessarily with regards to each other (that's just uncomfortable), but your dreams and desires in life. It's the talking aspect. Affection is more the doing, showing that you care and you want what is best for your partner and/or family. Random kisses or hugs are fine as I said, and occasional compliments as well, but those things are superficial acts of kindness and don't achieve anything or show how much you care about their success and well being.
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affection to me means comfort, security, intimacy, the warmth of a touch, and a demonstration of love. 🙂

when i am emotionally comfortable with my mate, i am a gushing mess. so oh yea he knows i love him and he knows i think he is hot. since we are both air signs and i know he is all about balance and we both like our space, i think i have found the right mixture of affection and back off. 🙂 his hugs are amazing so i need one when i get home. he knows this, thats a standard for my everyday sanity. of course he doesnt mind because it may lead to other things. he likes my kisses so i give them to him sparingly throughout the day and a tight squeeze on the ass (thats for me)makes him blush a little.

we are working on our PDA, it tends to get a little graphic. his parents and my mom have pulled us over to the side to tell us to cut it out. so we are working on it.... i think i've heard the word perverts before...he didnt hear anything though..mmm idk 😢
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affection - expressing all that warm, lovey shiz. feelings, sweet gestures, attentiveness, cuddling, kisses, making love, just being tender and intimate with each other.

in private i give it all and i want it all. in public i'd rather just a quick kiss, hug, touch, or glance. just enough. 🙂


What about the shags in museums, parks and cinemas? Was that all lies?
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Affection to me is all of the special little things, thoughtful things I do for you. A hug, a touch. Nothing leading to sex, but everything to let you know that I can and that I am thinking of you. I can take as much of that as one can muster, but generally (here comes the LIBRA) there is no balance. Most men think of the hugs, the butt pinches, etc as affection and soon after he is trying to get you to horizontal tango.
I am trying to do more of the touching, as that is most of the love language that I am encountering. But occupational hazards have taught me to keep my hands to myself. :-)
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affection to me means comfort, security, intimacy, the warmth of a touch, and a demonstration of love. 🙂

when i am emotionally comfortable with my mate, i am a gushing mess. so oh yea he knows i love him and he knows i think he is hot. since we are both air signs and i know he is all about balance and we both like our space, i think i have found the right mixture of affection and back off. 🙂 his hugs are amazing so i need one when i get home. he knows this, thats a standard for my everyday sanity. of course he doesnt mind because it may lead to other things. he likes my kisses so i give them to him sparingly throughout the day and a tight squeeze on the ass (thats for me)makes him blush a little.

we are working on our PDA, it tends to get a little graphic. his parents and my mom have pulled us over to the side to tell us to cut it out. so we are working on it.... i think i've heard the word perverts before...he didnt hear anything though..mmm idk 😢



My brother is currently like this with his girlfriend when she's over. Generally, I don't mind that type of stuff to an extent, but those two make me really uncomfortable. Hanging all over eachother and getting excessive just annoys me (what, are they 16??). Reading that your family members have told YOU two to chill out kind of makes me feel better about feeling awkward about it. It's not just me!

PDA is okay in moderation, but I thought it was just me that found it odd that they'd do that shit in front of family members. I find it odd that she doesn't have a problem initiating. I would never feel comfortable doing half of that in front of an S.O.'s parents....
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affection to me means comfort, security, intimacy, the warmth of a touch, and a demonstration of love. 🙂

when i am emotionally comfortable with my mate, i am a gushing mess. so oh yea he knows i love him and he knows i think he is hot. since we are both air signs and i know he is all about balance and we both like our space, i think i have found the right mixture of affection and back off. 🙂 his hugs are amazing so i need one when i get home. he knows this, thats a standard for my everyday sanity. of course he doesnt mind because it may lead to other things. he likes my kisses so i give them to him sparingly throughout the day and a tight squeeze on the ass (thats for me)makes him blush a little.

we are working on our PDA, it tends to get a little graphic. his parents and my mom have pulled us over to the side to tell us to cut it out. so we are working on it.... i think i've heard the word perverts before...he didnt hear anything though..mmm idk 😢



My brother is currently like this with his girlfriend when she's over. Generally, I don't mind that type of stuff to an extent, but those two make me really uncomfortable. Hanging all over eachother and getting excessive just annoys me (what, are they 16??). Reading that your family members have told YOU two to chill out kind of makes me feel better about feeling awkward about it. It's not just me!

PDA is okay in moderation, but I thought it was just me that found it odd that they'd do that shit in front of family members. I find it odd that she doesn't have a problem initiating. I would never feel comfortable doing half of that in front of an S.O.'s parents....
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LOL never got reprimanded for PDA, before. and no it wasnt in front of family, we go over to a corner or in a room. im engaged to a libra, he will not do stuff like that. and im an aqua, i wouldnt do anything like that either. didnt know i had to make that little detail clear. a peck on the check would get my family on alarm, i guess that goes for you too.
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Actually, speaking of PDAs and the Aqua with the Leo moon. We had a New Years pash this year... and it was in front of EVERYONE! At the time, neither of us gave a shit... but the next day, I dont know about him... but I was MORTIFIED cuz these were all MY friends it was in front of. *smh* We probably looked like a pair of horny teens 😭

It was just a pash, but still! How embarrassing 😢



but you enjoyed it for the moment. living a little, nothing wrong with that. 🙂
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I guess I find it a little rude to go a little too far on pda in front of family like that. The other night she went over to him and just started hanging all over him, stroking his arm, kissing, etc. I'm like for fuck's sake, really?

Pecks on the cheek are nothin. :p Don't get me wrong, I'm not all anti PDA, but some people have to learn some tact and moderation on the matter.
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My brother is currently like this with his girlfriend when she's over. Generally, I don't mind that type of stuff to an extent, but those two make me really uncomfortable. Hanging all over eachother and getting excessive just annoys me (what, are they 16??). Reading that your family members have told YOU two to chill out kind of makes me feel better about feeling awkward about it. It's not just me!

PDA is okay in moderation, but I thought it was just me that found it odd that they'd do that shit in front of family members. I find it odd that she doesn't have a problem initiating. I would never feel comfortable doing half of that in front of an S.O.'s parents....
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where did i say that me and my fiance are hugging and kissing on each other in front of family. where did i describe what kind of PDA was being displayed. i said they pulled us over to the side. we are usually in a corner or in a room. they want us to cut it out and join the family. so ;P ;P;P

and thats what you get for assuming. self righteous ass.
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Where did I say that I was describing you? I was mostly elaborating on the point that you'd made about your family saying something to you two about toning it down. I just figured as family, wtf do you say or do and do you have any place saying it? Knowing your family spoke up made me feel a bit "normal" in regard to wanting to speak up about the subject.

Touchy much?
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Actually, speaking of PDAs and the Aqua with the Leo moon. We had a New Years pash this year... and it was in front of EVERYONE! At the time, neither of us gave a shit... but the next day, I dont know about him... but I was MORTIFIED cuz these were all MY friends it was in front of. *smh* We probably looked like a pair of horny teens 😭

It was just a pash, but still! How embarrassing 😢



but you enjoyed it for the moment. living a little, nothing wrong with that. 🙂



I guess so, but seriously... it wasnt just one pash, we were all over each other all nite =/ My Pisces friend said I strutted right up to him, sat on his lap and just started ravishing him... OMG 😭 I DIED when she told me... She said he reciprocated eagerly, but UGH. I'm 30 now, not 15!!!

Anyway, I'm just glad we were able to continue being cool with each other as though nothing happened the next day and thereafter.

I dont mind holding hands and kissing and hugging in public, but I dont really like the whole "HEY!! Get a room!!" kinda PDA's....

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thats your libra shyness 🙂 if it wasnt for my fiance i would be a exhibitionist LOL..but not in front of family of course, i do respect my mom and other family members.
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Where did I say that I was describing you? I was mostly elaborating on the point that you'd made about your family saying something to you two about toning it down. I just figured as family, wtf do you say or do and do you have any place saying it? Knowing your family spoke up made me feel a bit "normal" in regard to wanting to speak up about the subject.

Touchy much?



yes, i am touchy. and dont wtf me mister! did i cuss at you. dont get me started im trying to stop being a potty mouth. usually when you quote people you talking about them. if im wrong i apologize. but it thats not how it goes then ;P
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What does affection mean to you?

How much affection do you give/want to/from your partner?






When two people are trying to provide love to one another ... then giving of affection should be doled out according to the needs of the partner, and not according to the needs of yourself.

I don't think a person should give, nor recieve affection according to themselves ... that is your partners job is realizing what they want/what they should do to provide to you.

In saying that .... it is our own responsibility in conveying accurately to our partners what our needs are so that they can appropriately give.
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@ celticlioness: We are shameless exhibitionists, even emotionally! 😉


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If you want true love get yourself a dog.
For some reason certain (Air?) people frequently tend to confuse animal love with "true" love just because it is unconditional. An animal will never love you for you, it will only love an oversimplified concept of you. It is therfore not true love. But of course, it's more convenient to seek love from someone who cannot not talk back to you or judge you even in the simplest of ways....
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There is a line for me lol, I wouldn't want to 'make out' in public... Well, not unless things started getting kinky, but then we aren't talking normal everyday behavior. Just random trips out, I like when my woman takes my arm or hand while we are walking around. I love the closeness when we are waiting in a line and she leans back on me, small stuff. I don't want someone to be attached at the hip, we can walk around seperately if we are shopping for different stuff, whatever. Leaving for or coming home from work, I like a hug and kiss. I like putting my hand on her leg and moving my thumb back and forth sometimes when we are sitting together, driving around, watching tv, etc.



Well said

I enjoy affection 🙂

I get worried I may be too touchy feely when were alone.. But my man-friend has a cancer moon..

So I've heard I'm probably ok in that dept. :p
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@ celticlioness: We are shameless exhibitionists, even emotionally! 😉


Posted by Pecheresse
If you want true love get yourself a dog.
For some reason certain (Air?) people frequently tend to confuse animal love with "true" love just because it is unconditional. An animal will never love you for you, it will only love an oversimplified concept of you. It is therfore not true love. But of course, it's more convenient to seek love from someone who cannot not talk back to you or judge you even in the simplest of ways....
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Interesting perspective...

I completely agree
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Hey, LibraSid, my Leonine Venus wonders what brought this to mind?



A little bit of self reflection mixed up with some looking to the future. Trying to figure out how others see things. I'm a very curious person. When I get to thinking about stuff I want to gather as much information as possible. I figure the best way to understand people is to ask them stuff. I have only dated a handful of people in my years so my experiences are very limited compared to the community knowledge in a place like this.
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What does affection mean to you?

How much affection do you give/want to/from your partner?



> I am EXTREMELY affectionate. I'm the sort of person who lives for my partner and they don't experience a waking moment without knowing that I care for them.
> I'd want just as much affection, but not to the point where it becomes creepy and they seem overly dependent. I think it seems really odd, but if someone appears to be too enamored by me, I lose attraction to them. In my relationships, I only want to be the one who shows that sort of emotional dependence.
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I'm like a cat when it comes to affection... it depends on my mood and it's gotta be on my time.
Too much and I feel smothered and get grumpy...too little and I get needy and whiny.

I'm a real pain in the ass.
Bless his soul.



Same goes for when I give affection...I get in cuddly moods...but I'm never overbearing about it.

Neither of us are PDA people either. People say that they can sense that we are crazy about each other when they see us together...but it's certainly not because we're all over each other. We're Libra classy about it. 😛
I might hold his arm or something casual like that...but you seriously will never catch us kissing/making out/groping eachother. ick, that's just tactless.



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Just thought about something...both Virgos I dated (always thought they were Libras...guess they weren't) were overboard with the affection.

They were ALWAYS. touching. me.
I couldn't breathe.

I remember this one time...one of them went to hug me one time and I SNAPPED...like a wild animal...or like a caged Sagi...it was just the last straw man!! It's actually why we broke up, which is funny cause I can tell people we broke up cause he tried to hug me, lmao!

No, it was serious though...my mom was crying and shit she thought I went crazy. True story.
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Affection to me is warmth in someones face for me, a touch. A kiss. It feels like sunshine on you. I'm a big believer in touch.

How much? A steady diet of it, but also coupled with enough sensitivity to piss off and be perfectly comfortable doing so knowing I or he is going nowhere. Strangling closeness just sucks. No one wants someone so far up their snoot they can't go to the WC without nervous chatter following them. Not even if they hand over the roll while fanning you with palm fronds. PDA is perfectly acceptable and welcome in my world. Slobbering and making out in public, no. That's for behind closed doors. A hand at the waist, holding hands, a warm kiss, fabulous. Arguing and bickering in public, also a no-no. Voice an opinion, fine. Belittling or other, gets ice. Again, it's for time on home turf.
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Just thought about something...both Virgos I dated (always thought they were Libras...guess they weren't) were overboard with the affection.

They were ALWAYS. touching. me.
I couldn't breathe.

I remember this one time...one of them went to hug me one time and I SNAPPED...like a wild animal...or like a caged Sagi...it was just the last straw man!! It's actually why we broke up, which is funny cause I can tell people we broke up cause he tried to hug me, lmao!

No, it was serious though...my mom was crying and shit she thought I went crazy. True story.



LMAO! Thats pretty hilarious.. My exVirgo was the same way.. He was very touchy feely! Which is wierd cus you know they say Virgos are cold n shit
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What does affection mean to you?

How much affection do you give/want to/from your partner?






When two people are trying to provide love to one another ... then giving of affection should be doled out according to the needs of the partner, and not according to the needs of yourself.

I don't think a person should give, nor recieve affection according to themselves ... that is your partners job is realizing what they want/what they should do to provide to you.

In saying that .... it is our own responsibility in conveying accurately to our partners what our needs are so that they can appropriately give.
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this is exactly how i feel. i do not need to be intimate very much, but there are times when i just need it. i want her entirely, with no barriers between us. it is not because i am horny, i take care of that myself. every now and again, i look her in the eyes and tell her. the last two times, she went to watch tv 😢 when i brought it up this last time, she told me if i wanted it that bad i should have come to get it. ugh.

it is about feeling loved and desired. small tokens of affection are plentiful and very much enjoyed, but sometimes i need the ooomph. i never realized i needed that in a relationship until now.