@steponscorpionsCRUNCH
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Addiction, I guess?
You know it's gonna kill you, but you just want more?
Posted by steponscorpionsCRUNCH
You people deserve better than that.
No, actually they don't. People are awareness confused most of the time, even you are now.
For a person (usually women) to do what you described (this stripping of self respect) ... then that means they don't deserve shit.
Only a respectful person deserves better.
You are confused. Just because a person is a human being, doesn't mean they are deserving.
For example: if a woman has a boyfriend who beats her up, and she stays with him and loves him, and tells him she loves him, eventhough he hits her ..... then she is getting, by having him, exactly what she deserves ... because she gives him credit in saying she loves him.
In that example ^^^^ a woman who has no self respect doesn't deserve a respectful man, when she isn't respectful of herself, which means she would never be respectful of a good man.
You're confused. If you are going to counsel someone, then have the decency to tell them the truth. A woman who is a piece of shit, doesn't deserve better .. she only deserves better when she betters herself.
i think you were as interested in them as they were. I mean if your feelings went poofed so fast then it was never there to begin with.
And for the women and guys too who ask how to earn someones love back cared enough to want to work things out, and yes sometimes its about closure. Not afraid of being alone, but you just need to know. Thou the best way to know is to ask that person.
And others for us love crazed ppl we crave love and if you care about someone you get off your high horse and let go of yout pride and open up yourself to them. Yeah youre afraid of getting hurt but if you dont open up all that bottled up emotion can make your cold.
Sometimes the guy strings them along and gives them false hope.
Sometimes, in her mind, the woman has built the relationship up far ahead than it really is. By the time she realizes he's not on the same level, he's already gone.
I don't know .. it just is.
Perhaps, it's the media ... from the very first age of realization/self awareness, little girls can clearly see that she has to measure up to expectations ... if she isn't beautiful, she isn't shit. So, if a guy is giving her attention ... ANY ATTENTION ... then she must be more than shit, so she must put her clutches in, and hang on for dear life, no matter how badly she might be treated.
because, afterall ... if she can't keep him, then she must not measure up
men don't have that problem ..... women constantly throw themselves at them, so they don't really have to do anything except make sure they're still breathing
I still won't agree that people deserve better just because they are human.
Posted by P-Angel
I don't know .. it just is.Perhaps, it's the media ... from the very first age of realization/self awareness, little girls can clearly see that she has to measure up to expectations ... if she isn't beautiful, she isn't shit. So, if a guy is giving her attention ... ANY ATTENTION ... then she must be more than shit, so she must put her clutches in, and hang on for dear life, no matter how badly she might be treated.
because, afterall ... if she can't keep him, then she must not measure up
men don't have that problem ..... women constantly throw themselves at them, so they don't really have to do anything except make sure they're still breathing
My guess is that there are biochemical explanations. Most notably, oxytocin, which is a stronger presence in women than men.
But this doesn't mean that women have to be slaves to its effects. Logic CAN still be employed to override it. It just means that the logical choice may not be the one that feels good or easy immediately.
It's up to the lady to decide which wins: oxytocin, or deliberate logic?
One thing I do agree with...it's different for men. I think that even if we didn't screw up, we're expected to come back.
Sometimes it's just:
"HOW DO I GET THIS (insert sign) MAN BACK?"... cause I fcucked up.
When you fcucked up and want help, that's humility.
Sometimes, they know how they messed up and want help fixing it or, they don't know and want help figuring our how they did and how to fix it.
Posted by steponscorpionsCRUNCH
But this doesn't mean that women have to be slaves to its effects. Logic CAN still be employed to override it.
There is fantasy ^^^^ and there is reality.
In reality, dishonorable women with little to no self esteem or pride ALWAYS become slaves, and NEVER use logic. And just because they have a choice (which escapes their irrational awareness) doesn't mean they deserve to be pardoned for their stupidity.
Nobody is "stuck" in any situation where the issue is her not speaking for her own behalf ... and that is what this thread is about. It's about those people out there who won't own themselves, and then because of thier own guilt, they attempt to make excuses for their lack of sound judgement.
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Why would anyone want anyone who didn't want them?
It makes no sense to me. Why would anyone want to strip their dignity and self-respect like that?
For me, if I feel like someone's not totally CRAZY about me, I lose all interest. For good. There've been times where I was infatuated with someone....but as soon as they withdrew, my interest ZAPPED away instantly. And never came back, even if the person did.
Can someone explain why women would want to reduce themselves to begging? To me, it can't EVER be real love if it's not 100% , effortlessly voluntary.
You people deserve better than that. >.