I've Cheated -_-

Please move on, to be with a service member, you have to have a strong mind and devotion for him. Trust me, I am in military, myself. There is a lot of things that go on in the military, that some people won't ever understand.

I understand all that.
In fact I've been working on all these problems long before I met him. Only, it wasn't till after him I saw my problems clearly.
My life has changed for the better. I'm coping with everything so much better then ever before.
I have open cases against my older brother, so he doesn't cause anymore problems for me.
My father is out of my life for good and for ever.

And I also know now that there was never anything wrong with being valnerable.
Most of my life I've been afraid of being weak, because I was convinced that not having full control of emotions would allow others to be incontrol.
I realized that there are limits and bounderies that I need to practice to balance myself with.

I just wish I realized all this while I still had him in my life. But at least just knowing that he exist helps me want to be a more balanced person.
I wish I could tell him all this.

He really did seem like a rock most times. It made it hard for me to communicate with him.
He was my first though. I couldn't eve look at another guy!
None of it was planed of course. I never liked the idea of cheating. Never understood why anyone would be in a relationship if they'd want others at the same time. But I didn't think. I made the most stupidest, most foolish mistake of my life.

Oh well, right? I'll just have to see what time make of it.

Posted by msInternationalTease
Please move on, to be with a service member, you have to have a strong mind and devotion for him. Trust me, I am in military, myself. There is a lot of things that go on in the military, that some people won't ever understand.

I have to say this is pretty much it. You have to back off for a while or all together. Military service...you could go years without your service member due to deploy or station; dating or married it doesn't matter. If you cheated after a couple of months, you will possibly cheat again if you feel rejected and lonely during the next cycle. Even if you care about him, you have to be able to let him go as well for both of you to be healthy. Get some counseling or every time you with think of the past with your dad and brother and push things into you new relationship.

Yea, I'm aware of that. And I am in therapy. I have a history of suicide during my teen years and I'm on anti depressions now a days.
It was never a problem that he is in the military or that we'd be apart for long periods of time, the problem was just me. -_-
I can be a dedicated person when I'm able to trust. But, sometimes trusting was too hard. I've always been on my own mentaly and emotionaly.

And I know I should let him go. But I'll never forget him.
He was my first boyfriend, and I don't know how long it will take before I consider dating ever again.

Dudette, take a deep breath. Despite all the appearances and uproared emotions this is causing you, everything that has happened and IS happening is actually a good thing and is helping you heal from your past so true love can come in.

* n fact I've been working on all these problems long before I met him. Only, it wasn't till after him I saw my problems clearly.
My life has changed for the better. I'm coping with everything so much better then ever before.

This guy was one of your soulmates because this is what soulmates do. Notice I said ONE of your soulmateS. We all have many soulmates and they usually kick over the apple cart and make you look at the things you didn't want to see/heal before. This is exactly what is happening here. So take a deep breath. You have to heal all this past shit and realize you deserve to be loved before your perfect guy comes in but you are on your way!

I would like to recommend reiki for you. If you can find a reiki practitioner in your area go for it. It really will help to clear away some of these thought patterns, traumas, etc. I didn't really believe in reiki till I had it done. I even sent my mom who is a huge skeptic and she was blown away.

Now is the time to really heal these patterns and let them go. Really love yourself and go into extreme self-care. It sounds like you are working towards that and I want to applaud the work you are doing on yourself. Great job! And don't worry, you can never totally get rid of the link between soulmates. Even if you don't see each other again in this lifetime, there is always, the next and the next. You will always be able to reach his energy and "talk to him" in your mind anytime you need to. Know that it is already healed on another level because soulmates are really about love even though it sometimes seems CRAZY at the time. It really is based on love and healing. By shining the light on what you need to heal, he really is preparing you for the love of your life and that is a great thing.

Sorry for the weird message. I normally don't talk about such things here but I really felt it would help you and you really need to be applauded because you really are not running away from yourself, or shaming yourself, but learning to love yourself and accept yourself. And are really doing the work to heal, I think that is phenomenal. Thanks so much for sharing. 🙂

I can't stand people like you.


You know full well that you're fucked up due to childhood trauma and instead of actually doing something to help yourself .. you chose to hurt him.



There are actual victims out there .. you aren't one of them ... so fucking own up and help yourself goddam self.

You're just loving all the pity strokes your getting in here, aren't ya? Bet you are in real life also.


meanwhile .. someone got hurt while you were enjoying the pity.

Well the good news is that it seems you are fully aware of your own problems. It seems like you are very self-alert & know exactly what the problem is, vs. some people who spend their entire lives running off others & never having a single clue as to why. Honey, Regardless of how old you are, what career you have, what race or circumstance you're in, COMMUNICATION is always the #1 most important factor in a relationship. And obviously, you guys do not have that anymore. This is what happens when the communications starts to slowly fade away until it finally reaches zero. It sounds like you know exactly what you need to do. You are very aware of your own emotional spats & circumstances & at this point, the only other thing you need to do now is put some ACTION into everything. At this point, it really won't matter how good or how horrible someone treats you b/c you've got some serious emotional issues that you need to deal with before you expect to ever be happy 1. By yourself & 2. With someone else. This man might've been a liar, a cheater OR he could've been the most fabulous man on the planet. Either way, it won't really matter b/c everything starts with YOU. YOU are the only person you can control & you are the only person you will ever fully get to know (if that b/c we can spend an entire lifetime trying to get to know & figure ourselves out. It's normal to not be able to forget the 1 person that actually made our hearts flutter, BUT at the same time, it's also selfish & unfair to this "wonderful" person too if they don't have a fair shot at you. He should ALSO be the one walking away thinking, man, she was wonderful. At this point, what he was or wasn't doing on base really doesn't matter. That's probably something you'll never really know for sure, especially considering your sources were he-said she-said. So chalk that part of things up even though I know it's easier said than done. You've got to focus on your SELF..that way, whether Mr. Right OR Mr. Wrong comes in the picture the next time, we won't be having this same conversation. Continue to go through therapy & continue to focus on controlling your own emotions & life plan, not his or anyone else's. If you try to put others 1st, you'll always be miserable

Posted by P-Angel
I can't stand people like you.
You know full well that you're fucked up due to childhood trauma and instead of actually doing something to help yourself .. you chose to hurt him.
There are actual victims out there .. you aren't one of them ... so fucking own up and help yourself goddam self.

Wow, P-Angel, things seem so simplistic in your world. Aren't you being a little harsh? I mean if all it took was being aware of of ones fucked up childhood to recover from it, none of us would be having problems in life! You think behaviour is just a switch on and off button? Don't you have days when you just don't feel like getting out of bed? And would it make any difference if someone yelled in your face "get the fuck out of bed and smile, the world is a wonderful place!".

Where do you find motivation when your self-worth has been so abused? And who are these other "actual victims" you're talking about? Being fucked over by your father and abused by your brother does not qualify in your world? You think the "real victims" should have more empathy for other people's feelings? Think again , they don't walk around with a 'give-me-a-hug' look in their face? They are self-destructive, going through the same issues as this girl, unable or unmotivated to change their ways because life basically sucks!

Many victims of sexual abuse are promiscuous in adult life, sleeping around and "enjoying themselves", or at least that's the way it seems to the untrained eye. But I guess to you they have themselves to blame and it's their fault that they are such big whores unable to take control of their lives. NO, I don't think life is as easy as you're making it out to be. In contray to popular belief - or bullshit, either way - we are NOT the masters of our own lives! There's so much more to it, but I'll spare you the reading....

Besides, she's IS helping herself. She is making progress. Just because someone opens up and tells you about their childhood trauma doesen't mean they want you to feel sorry for them! And even if they do, either you feel sorry for them or you don't!

Posted by P-Angel
I can't stand people like you.


You know full well that you're fucked up due to childhood trauma and instead of actually doing something to help yourself .. you chose to hurt him.



There are actual victims out there .. you aren't one of them ... so fucking own up and help yourself goddam self.

I agree with you. Not about this particular scenario but people like that in general.

It's like people would rather just point the finger of blame than do anything about their problems.

It's like they're aware they're in a rut or trapped in a particular pattern and accept it, long as they don't have to be held accountable for their actions.

You change the inside day by day the outside'll change day by day.

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by P-Angel
I can't stand people like you.
You know full well that you're fucked up due to childhood trauma and instead of actually doing something to help yourself .. you chose to hurt him.
There are actual victims out there .. you aren't one of them ... so fucking own up and help yourself goddam self.

Wow, P-Angel, things seem so simplistic in your world. Aren't you being a little harsh? I mean if all it took was being aware of of ones fucked up childhood to recover from it, none of us would be having problems in life! You think behaviour is just a switch on and off button? Don't you have days when you just don't feel like getting out of bed? And would it make any difference if someone yelled in your face "get the fuck out of bed and smile, the world is a wonderful place!".

Where do you find motivation when your self-worth has been so abused? And who are these other "actual victims" you're talking about? Being fucked over by your father and abused by your brother does not qualify in your world? You think the "real victims" should have more empathy for other people's feelings? Think again , they don't walk around with a 'give-me-a-hug' look in their face? They are self-destructive, going through the same issues as this girl, unable or unmotivated to change their ways because life basically sucks!

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You know all that is well and good.

But some people don't even have a map to the pain. Some people don't have that starting point to be able to say that "this is where things got f**ked up".

All they remember is the pain. And all they see is the pain. But they still get out of it, whether it takes years.

You don't need motivation to end pain. Pain is enough motivation to change things.

It's like having your hand over a flame; unless you've been bound by outside forces you WILL remove your hand when the heat becomes unbearable.

You KNOWING you have a problem or are hurting is the first step to recovery. But it doesn't do sh**.

No point knowing you're sitting in sh** and doing nothing to move even when the smell is up your nose.

Posted by &2gedanow

No point knowing you're sitting in sh** and doing nothing to move even when the smell is up your nose.

But in the end none of that matters, if you don't have the strenght or motivation it's no use. As I said, we are not really the masters of our lives.

Mother Teresa said there are only three things important in life kindness, kindness, and kindness. I agree.

Diana

There are people who will support your as you begin to heal and those who will do everything in their power to disempower you. Many people will not want you to get better because it shines a light on what they refuse to face in their own lives. We are nothing if we cannot forgive be it others or ourselves.

I love this quote by Marianne Williamson.

—Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.??

Be the light in the world. I think you are incredibly brave to share your story especially among so many that would pull you down. Keep going and get better for yourself. You can do it.

much love and luck

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by &2gedanow

No point knowing you're sitting in sh** and doing nothing to move even when the smell is up your nose.

But in the end none of that matters, if you don't have the strenght or motivation it's no use. As I said, we are not really the masters of our lives.

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I know where you're coming from but I'd have to disagree on the strength and motivation part.

In my experience the only way a person will remain trapped in a rut is if they cannot see greener pastures.

Which -- considering how may life style s and people there are on this earth -- is not possible.

You look at yourself and you look at other people who seem happier than you (seem being very important) and you question your worth.

And you find out that even though you're in a place lower than the things under people's boots you have every right to be happy just like that person.

They aren't special.

So now you have a goal: to be happy, not with the things you see other people with, but with the things you personally want. You of course get to this stage chasing other people's happiness and being unhappy.

You have no goals, you remain static. You have a goal, you have something to live for. Until the next goal.

That's the point of life: there isn't one.

You gotta make up your own point.

But self-destructive behaviour of this kind is like a drug and the worst part is you got hooked in your childhood! They can have all the goals in the world, but none of that makes them happy because they're damaged inside. The light in the end of the tunnel is bright, but it's not bright enough for them to follow that yellow brick road. Why would you want happyness and all those things other people have when you don't even know what it feels like - you've never had it!! You wouldn't know what to do with it.

Totally agree with ya, Enfant.

+1 then 😉

Posted by Mr Nice
Yeah cheating is bad but, we have all done it at one time or another.

Naw, not me, I've always been faithful even when I was tempted.

I'm thankful for all these comments. I really wasn't expecting so much. I guess I just wanted some support and opinions, but most of you are giving me so much more. And piss-angel, it's not pity I want, because I can't get anywhere with such a pointless thing. I'm trying my best to be strong. I don't let people in my life know how broken I feel inside just so I wont take them away from their time. And besides, it's easier with strangers because people I know will only give me a sad expression, I guess called pity, but I really don't want that.
I'll never see any of the people who read what I write here (unless you end up recognizing me from my photo). Strangers online are easier to earase when I don't feel comfortable. Even though it's not heathly because I do avoid socializing. Though it's something I'm practicing since I'm back in school.
I don't mind the rude comments either. It's a slap in the face at first, but it's something I'll face in all sorts of situations in life, so I take it with strenght.

This is going to sound disgusting, but growing up, I used to fantasize of being raped. When it came to men, it was only sexual thoughts. And believe it or not, till this day, I remain a virgin. Hard to believe, but true. I did try it once with my ex though. I was so nervous I threw up :s it was !embaressing! and painful.
I never had a relationship with a man that felt ok. I remember when my best friend, along with her little sisters, jumpt all over their dad because he was pretending to be asleep in one of their beds and snoring really loud while we were in the room trying to talk. My best friend stood over him and started jumping and kicking and he grabed her feet. It was just so funny to watch. But at the same time I kept fighting these thoughts that would sneak into my mind. The whole time I had to fight to keep a happy face when really I was horrified by what went in my own head!

And thank god none of you know me because what I'm about to tell next makes me blush! I never in my life admited I want a real father. But deep inside my head I would create one for myself. I was a while girl at one point in my life. I would play in the mud, wrestle with my young brother and watch cartoons with super heros. I'd always pick a super hero to be my dad [in my mind]. My favorite 'dad' was always Batman. Why? Because he lived in a big dark house and wasn't a very emotional person himself so it was easier to relate to him.

Plus, though it doesn't matter now, at the start, I didn't want him. Boy! Did I NOT want him!
I knew with my issues a relationship was the last thing I should deal with.

I met him online. We met through some social network and from his photo I thought he was one of those big-ego tough guys. Who doesn't love argueing with strangers who happen to be jerks?!
He... ended up being nice. Sweet actually.
We talked. It wasn't supose to be serious. BUT he wanted it to be.
Boy was that conversation LONG! Back and forth, up and down, going in circles. He won though. Convinced me to give it a shot KNOWing I have problems that would affect the relationship. [During this time he was in Japan. Two weeks before he came to California. After that he was only to be deployed one last time and in a year he was out. So, when it came to the future (if there would have been one) there wouldn't have been so much being apart.] We spent a tone of time video chatting and he would call me through his laptop since no cell phone service for him out there. For some reason he considered me a decent person. And then I fell for him. And then the rest of the story you all know...


Though most of you have already said this isn't about him, it's about me and my problems. I know, I know. But I still wish he knew how sorry I am. He's been hurt before and it hurts me to know that I hurt him too. Even if he doesn't want me back, I don't care! As long as he knows I'm sorry, that there are actual decent girls out there who are well put together, and that I hope he lives a happy life. That's all I want him to know from me.

Never get in that position, when in military best to have no strings attached unless you are drafted like the U.S. used to do. Its better to leave no one behind that way if you don't come back no big deal. when men are cheated on they do stuped things like take risk they should not.

You like to be raped.



...... you actually LIKE the abuse you got.

"my father who introduced me to the sexual side of the world, and my older brother, who forced trauma into my soul and beat me countless times. "


Your brother was probably beating you because you were hoping that your father actually raped you and he was trying to knock some sense into your head.


Since you are still confused and full of hate that stems from your childhood ... you could always go to dad now and tell him you like to be raped and I'm sure he would happy to accommodate you .. then you could be happy.

Cheese and rice woman!

i hope that's not really you in that picture? i can't see revealing such personal detail on the "world wide web" and stapling my picture next to each post but that's just me.

as most everyone has said, part of getting over past relationships is taking an ownership role in the relationship's failure. sure, he may have done this/that, but what did YOU do? what could you have done differently? what habits/actions do you need to change/never do again so that you stand a better chance next go round?

you've mentioned a lot of past issues and on one hand, i applaud you for being able to talk about it, on the other, make sure that's not all you do. rosie odonnell was on oprah recently and she mentioned that she had been introducing herself as a motherless daughter for over 20 years. sure, that IS her reality but a lot has happened in 20 years. she's a mother herself now and doesn't that trump some event that occurred decades earlier when she was a child and had no control over the circumstances?

the point is, you have a tragic past. there are some things that you're ashamed of...somethings that you wish you could do differently...somethings that were out of our control. part of forgiving yourself and letting the pain go is realizing you can't change the events of your past. at that time, in that moment, you did the best with what you know. let it go and vow to learn from it. also gain strength in the fact that in spite of everything, you survived. you survived it all and that makes you strong, not weak.

finally as a victim of abuse mself, the fact that some have chosen to make light of your situation is pretty sad but the mentally depraved and morally bankrupt have internet access as well. as a child, sometimes it's difficult to tell. sometimes your soul is screaming "stop," "someone please help me" and yet, when given the opportunity to speak up, many children remain silent. they internalize the pain, sometimes they protect their abuser and unfortunately in many cases, they shift the blame from the abuser to themselves. these children eventually grow into adulthood and they're broken. thus, it's so convenient for others to have a "get over it" attitude but they don't know your reality. don't allow others to shame you into silence again. speak your story, seek help where you can, tell a trusted friend, keep a diary, work out, meditate...do whatever, whenever because for some of us, healing takes a lifetime.

good luck

"I'll never see any of the people who read what I write here (unless you end up recognizing me from my photo). "





What's happening here was obvious to me from day one ... let's see how long it takes the brain for the rest of to catch up.

WTF

Either this is a joke some retard is playing on us all or this person needs some serious help NOW!

Diana if that's your real persona, I don't mean to come off rude but some things are better left unsaid and in all honesty you scare me.

You fantasized being raped? You cheated on your boyfriend, and you try to paint yourself as the victim? Na ah, sorry you're the obuser. I have meet people like you in the real world, and you people all sound the same.

Good luck in life.

We can all see this is a sick person who needs professional help, and I don't mean this as a put down, but we need to be careful not to egg her own or she may write more explicit material. I have had a bad experience with this personality type and it is dangerous.

Anyways I am done here!

dianasart - dont listen to these drongos

@Eric, fantasizing about being raped is not that unusual! It all depends on what degree of fantasizing we're talking about. There's definitely a level where it becomes unhealthy, but jeez you people are easy to shock! We all have our little quirks, most people are fucked in the head one way or the other. We just don't talk about it. But yeah, blinfolds and la-la-la to the ears is much more comforting. So is passing judgements on others.

^^^exactly. the idea that just because someone says something that you're uncomfortable with makes them "clinical" or a liar shows how teeny tiiny folks are.

i had a bf who liked to be choked during sex. i have a male friend who makes his girl drink his spit. i have a female friend who's had lovers, one male, one female, who asked her to wee-wee in their mouth.

not everyone has a conventional sex life or fantasies for that matter. nice of folks to judge though.

to the original poster, don't let jacka $ $ es get to you. be you, do you...improve you.

lol

@ scorpio_chic

I've actually never been with anyone who was into something "weird". I'd like to try though, just for the sake of testing how far I'd be able to go satisfying other people's sexual needs, haha

Seems only normal people are drawn to me, which is good in a way because I don't have any dark secrets. But I am willing to go very far as long as we're not talking about another dude or a transvestite 😛

same here...no pee, no poop, no women, no animals...i'm sure there are other no-nos but i pray i never meet that level of freak. the rest he may feel free to bring up but i have veto power.

I guess us Leos aim to please, huh 😉

We're freaks that way.

i'm a taurus. i just like the lil lion cubby 🙂

I'm sorry I scared any of you or seemed really strange. And I really am a nice person for those who assume I'm not. I guess I felt comforable sharing some personal things, but maybe it was too extreme. I don't talk about these things often but I'll admit I liked having actual people respond to it! I keep journals and write allot but I never shared so the comments in ALL forms are something I consider.
And I'd like to say I do believe we all have extreme secrets we don't share.


PAngele, my brother was a drug addic. since he was 14, that's when he became aggressive, sexist, and controling with everyone in our house hold. We had a very strong relationship at one point and I always forgave him after every pointless beating he gave me. But he refuses help so for a long time I've been building distance between him and I, just to be free and able to become less dysfunctional. The history with my father, was my secret for many many years since my parents were divorced anyway, I didn't want to bring up problems when my other option was to just hide the truth. And it was never spoken of till just a few years ago.



I think it's time we move on from my post.

^^^don't let the rodent get to you and don't feel the need to explain yourself to people who are obviously trying to upset you. i mean, she doesn't care what the real reasons are behind your post, your emotional torment...none of that matters. at the end of the day, i'm glad you shared and i hope that some of the comments were helpful...although i would choose a different avatar 😛

and yes scorp...tubby's cubby. i'm still trying to figure out what you all think a scubby is though. hmm...a mangled scrunchy?

Thank you tubbyscubby, you're really nice.
And I have been thinking of changing my display photo.
And I'm really glad I came across this website. I just noticed that books are in the list of topics and lol I can't resist ^_^ so I posted my favorite photo of snow white now. It's the only fairy tale I have read an original of so far, so it's my favorite at the moment.
And I am never letting another man convince me into giving a relationship a chance untill I have resolved my issues and feel more balanced.

Thanks again. Bye everyone.

scubby a clostered wanker


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hooroo dianasart

RAPE all about control

Posted by enfant_terrible
@Eric, fantasizing about being raped is not that unusual! It all depends on what degree of fantasizing we're talking about. There's definitely a level where it becomes unhealthy, but jeez you people are easy to shock! We all have our little quirks, most people are fucked in the head one way or the other. We just don't talk about it. But yeah, blinfolds and la-la-la to the ears is much more comforting. So is passing judgements on others.

Hey I don't disagree, but it doesn't make me wrong. Call it as you see it, I will diagnose the situation as you will. I know people are messed in one way or another. Turn on the news and you can see evidence of that. However I am not sure what your notion is of unhealthy, if she fits the criteria or not. If you and other women are in to that fetish shit all the fucking power to you bro. Just keep it between you and the other you.

And passing judgment is something we all do, unless you've forgotten?

Diana there is no such thing as nice people. Sometimes people will be good to you, does that make them nice? And what if one day they fail you will that make them bad? When I hear some one say I am a nice person or you are a nice person, it always makes me roll my eyes.

I have a friend who was abused sexually by her father and suffers from PTSD. She often confessed alot of dark secrets to me. I also had a stalker who was a former protistute and a PTSD sufferer. It is sad really, but she didn't understand the difference between love and obessession.

I don't know you, so whatever I or anyone else says is only what we see or choose to see. Take it with a grain of salt.

If posting secrets on this board helps you then okay.

Posted by eric11
Hey I don't disagree, but it doesn't make me wrong. Call it as you see it, I will diagnose the situation as you will. I know people are messed in one way or another. Turn on the news and you can see evidence of that. However I am not sure what your notion is of unhealthy, if she fits the criteria or not. If you and other women are in to that fetish shit all the fucking power to you bro. Just keep it between you and the other you.

And passing judgment is something we all do, unless you've forgotten?

uhm...why would he or anyone need to refrain from discussing their sex lives? because it offends your sensibilities? you posting offends my sensibilities. i want you to stop. so stop now! but feel free to PM your girlfriend as often as you like. hopefully she's a member 😛

Posted by enfant_terrible
I guess us Leos aim to please, huh 😉

We're freaks that way.

WHAT!!— Not me!!! Te he he!!!

Haha but you're a woman... all you have to do is show up and it's all good! But us guys are expected to do the actual work 😉

Posted by tubbyscubby

Posted by eric11
Hey I don't disagree, but it doesn't make me wrong. Call it as you see it, I will diagnose the situation as you will. I know people are messed in one way or another. Turn on the news and you can see evidence of that. However I am not sure what your notion is of unhealthy, if she fits the criteria or not. If you and other women are in to that fetish shit all the fucking power to you bro. Just keep it between you and the other you.

And passing judgment is something we all do, unless you've forgotten?

uhm...why would he or anyone need to refrain from discussing their sex lives? because it offends your sensibilities? you posting offends my sensibilities. i want you to stop. so stop now! but feel free to PM your girlfriend as often as you like. hopefully she's a member 😛

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Well I am glad your sensibilities are offended because political correctness is bullshit just like your profile pic but we live in a "free world" so anything goes.

Inspite of that I still think the OP is off her rocker and why should I not say it? You don't have an issue with anyone elses position but mind. So was it the way I said it or what I said that offends you?

^^^dude you complain about being PC and you're the one who's actually trying to censor by telling folks what's appropriate for public discussion. i have no issue with your disagreeing but your tude that a topic that offends you doesn't belong here/there just shows how small you are...literally. you must have the most boring sex life EVAH!