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Ok guys, here's the deal since I didnt have time to get into deets last night. It was a semi-blind date. I met her for like half a minute at a party through a mutual friend. She told mutual friend about being interested which was relayed to moi.

I thought "What the hell, she's cute and 30, what's the worst that could happen?" So a meetup was arranged.

When I get to the place, that sentence in the earlier post was literally the first words out of her mouth. Not a hey, hello, or nice to see ya again.

Ladies, you know as well as I do that kind of talk she brought is reserved for after going on a few dates and having already been "intimate"

You dont bring that kind of talk with someone you just met and dont even know.

Let me spin it this way. If a guy on a blind date said what she said, you gals would be immediately reaching in your purses for the nearest pepper spray or car keys.


Why do I have this nagging feeling that homegirl was a recent castoff of The Bachelor?

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Let's be fair Satori contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of women out there who can have sex without love. I do understand the point you are making dont get me wrong. But you also cant place a generalization for women.

Some of my female friends have to know if there is sexual chemistry before committing. For them sex is a very integral part of a relationship. As long as a Man or Woman are honest with their prospective dating partners about seeing where it goes and not doing the classic "hump and dump", screening for sexual chemistry is perfectly fine.

What's being missed here is I dont disgree with what she said. I disagree with the timing of it. Man or woman, that sentence should never be the first words out coming of your mouth on a blind date.


What gets overlooked by men and women is some people want to date casually because they recently came out of a bad breakup. Or they may have to work long hours to support themselves which leaves little time for a relationship.

Wouldnt you rather have someone be casual vs. bringing recent baggage from a relationship? Or dating someone you hardly ever see? Now m I looking for a serious relationship with someone my own age? Of course, but its not going to eat me alive if that doesnt happen.

I'm not just going to jump into a relationship with someone because we share the same age. There has to be some commonalities and similiar priorities. At the same time though, I'm not gonna start spattering off a list on a blind first date.

What people seem to forget nowadays about dating is its supposed to be fun. Not every first date should should be a life or death situation. And if any man or woman does what she did on a first date, they're going to be lonely for a very long time.
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FB how come you keep giving ladies dating advice and tips when you are the one
having problems?
Maybe you should be asking us to tell you how to act so you can find a nice girl/lady/granny and
fall in love and live happily ever after.
You said you wanted a 30yr old, you got one and now you don't like her because
she doesn't have time to play games and I forget why you don't like women in their
20's.
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Posted by FlyingBurritos80


For the love of all that is holy, never EVER say the following to a guy on the first, let alone blind date even.

"I just bought a new house, and adopted two dogs. I'm only looking for a serious and permanent relationship. I dont want to date for half a year and then find out I wasted my time. Are you ok with that?"

What a freakin' nightmare...


Other than the dogs (I don't like dogs) this woman pretty-much has my thoughts in her head! Cur the BS and let's get the hell on with it. Dating is for teenagers.
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Posted by satori

I dont know. I could see myself saying it. I've always been very direct and it's always worked well for me.

I met my Virgo ex at work and we became close friends fast. When I started to develop feelings for him it wasn't long before I decided to make my move. My exact words to him were "I love you. I would have your baby if I could be sure you wouldn't sacrifice it to the devil." lol. We hadn't even gone on a date or hung out outside of work yet either.

I moved in with him shortly after that and we were married in less than a year. He showed no fear. He was ready to make that kind of commitment and so was I.

Am I sorry I was so brazen? Hell no. That relationship was the most enriching of my life and we are still great friends.

Maybe some people don't like that kind of directness, and that's okay, but my Virgo loved it about me and someone else will love FB's date for her directness too. Maybe it's just different strokes for different folks.



Damn! Looks like my ideal woman is already taken!!
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Flying Burrito,

A lot of people see dating and love as "serious business". It's bullsh**.

What's the point of being around someone who isn't fun, adventerous and passionate?

Life is already mundane enough and I have to put up with a woman more scared of her biological clock running out (30 was her age, you said) than passionate about finding the one?

Ladies, please, cut the bull. You KNOW that's she blurted it out like that. Not because she was trying to cut through the crap and get to the one.

The girl probably had a certaiun age in mind that she would have liked to have gotten married and had kids and that age has long passed, so now she comes out with bull like, reasoning that it'd scare people who weren't potential away?

Don't kid yourselves. Be honest.

She most definitely killed the mood by spewing out that bull all because she had an ideal in her head she never met and is desperate to meet it now.

Why don't most women understand that these things aren't life and death?

So hung up on the pay off you completely ignore the feelings part.

Sheesh.

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Flying Burrito, don't listen to the naysayers, the "you're sabotaging yourself" peeps.

Life is difficult enough. If you can't have fun with people of the opposite sex the same way you have fun with one of the boys what's the point of even interacting with them?

Your an aquarius, man. Look for a friend first. They last longer.

Good God. Women be steady runing their chances of happiness with crazy ideals THEY probably wouldn't be able to meet if the tabloes were turned.

Pfffft.
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"I'm looking for the one"

Yeah f**king right, get the f**k outta here, you just wanna feel like a "normal" woman with kids and a husband.

Well news flash, "normal" does NOT equal "happy", ladies.

I wouldn't be surprised if some years down the line FB's weird date makes a thread on dxp about how she thinks her husband is cheating on her.

When will people stop wanting what they think they should want and start wanting what actually makes them happy?



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Posted by FeistyAquarian
He's an Aquarian??


And dude, some people think different things..



Which is why I'm telling Flying Burrito that contrary to popular belief he isn't in the wrong here.

Girl was too pushy for reasons she wouldn't honestly admit.

While, to some, FB exhibited the characteristics of a commitment phobe for being scared away by what she said.

Different view points, nobody won yet at the same time both FB and the girl won in the end (if FB wasn't right for her years down the line).

Still, that is a stupid way to find the one in my opinion. She shoulda just stayed at home.

What did she gain in the end by opening her mouth and spweing that out in the very first seconds of their date?

Not FB.

And certainly not any man in his right mind or with a healthy level of self esteem if she continues on like that.

Sounds like she's selfish to me.

I'd definitely bail.



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Posted by FeistyAquarian


But hey, who knows how it is for older women who are direct? If a guy doesn't like it, they'll discount it as him not being the right guy. And if he did like it, then score 1 for them. You do what you do and eventually someone will appreciate you for it.



You know what I think about older ladies?

They are the best.

Wny?

Because they're honest. Not only with dude, but with themselves.

Add the fact that they're chill and have stopped making demands of life and love and just go with the flow and you've got yourself a girl that is life partner material.

But this chick ain't an older lady. 30 is not older lady material.

Late 30s and above is.

And as for the whole do what you do and people will accept you for it part, I will tell you again that no man with a healthy self respect and in his right mind will put a woman's needs before his own.

EVER.

Not unless he knows she'd do the same if the reverse were the case.

Home girl doesn't sound like that to me.

She sounds like she wants kids and a trophy husband because she's the only one out of all her friends who isn't married.

Good luck to her.
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Posted by BellaBulleautiful
What he could have done was just told her...you know I respect that,and that is a great plan.I would enjoy that as well, but I think it takes time to get to that point...then at least she'd know he had some idea of maturity and stability and she could relax instead of wondering if he was just after the goods.when you know who you are and what you want out of life,you don't like playing games.
guys want women who know what we want,and then when we do they don't like it.she might be a really great woman,and he now is not willing to find out.....



Perhaps.

But he never finished his story lol

The guy's an aqua (I'm pretty certain), he probably even finished the date with her out of politeness lol

And when a guy says he wants a woman who knows what she wants it isn't the "I want it and I don't care how I get it" attitude they're thinking about.

Basically, what they're looking for is someone who's life doesn't revolve around love and boys and commitment and stuff.

Those are all just supposed ideals to strive which are thrust upon most chicks from birth.

Don't get me wrong there's traditionalists who'd rather a girl cook and clean and raise kids, but outside interests add personality to a girl.

Barbie doll types look nice, but besides sex they've got next to nothing going for them.

At the other end of the spectrum are the chicks who are so cutthroat in finding the happiness they think they deserve that they don't care if the person they get it through isn't right for them. They just want those things.

These chicks are the ones who end up cheating/being cheated on and single mothers with kids.

FB's date didn't even give FB a chance to get to know her. And SHE was the one who expressed interest in him.

She sounded too robotic. It sounded like BANG: I want kids and a man with money, let's get married and have kids.

Not I want you. I want you to be the father of my children. I want to spend the rest of my life with you.

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Posted by BellaBulleautiful
What he could have done was just told her...you know I respect that,and that is a great plan.I would enjoy that as well, but I think it takes time to get to that point...then at least she'd know he had some idea of maturity and stability and she could relax instead of wondering if he was just after the goods.when you know who you are and what you want out of life,you don't like playing games.
guys want women who know what we want,and then when we do they don't like it.she might be a really great woman,and he now is not willing to find out.....



She sounded too robotic. It sounded like BANG: I want kids and a man with money, let's get married and have kids.

Not I want you. I want you to be the father of my children. I want to spend the rest of my life with you.

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See the latter way would still be wrong for the reason that she didn't even get to know him.

She wouldn't be right on either count and would rightly scare potential suitors away.

See if they'd gotten to know each other the latter way would be the way to go, because it would mean that he meant the world to her.

Them words would make a guy stop and think "F**k. I gotta do right by her."

Why? Because he isn't being forced into anything. She's just expressing feelings.

And you can bet marriage or at least commitment would've crossed his mind by this point.

Men appreciate honesty from women above all things. Even above sex.
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Posted by FeistyAquarian
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30 is older to me, lol. But I don't get why people say younger women are more desperate and everything. Most of the girls I know, and maybe it's just me, are more focused on going to school and having fun than on getting married and having babies. It's the older, unmarried women who are freaking out because their biological clocks are ticking. But, maybe that's just how it is more around me. ::shrugs::
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I don't think people ever stop wanting to grow up until they eventually DO grow up (or old).

Hence, younger girls probably want things that "women" are supposed to have, such as a husband a kid or two and a stable married life.

But the difference I guess is that older women know the secret, which is those rules pertaining to what a girl should want were made by a woman who hates women lol

I don't even give a f**k about the biology argument some chicks'll throw at me for saying the above.

It's in my biology to be a horny f**ker, sure, but I have a mind and pride that tells me I'm different from your average four-legged creature.

In other words, the "women are genetically geared towards commitment and community" is nothing more than an excuse.

Mind over matter forever and ever.
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Posted by FeistyAquarian
Ohhh Nibula, true.

And I don't want to grow up 😢 I suppose maybe, just maybe, I'm a bit more mature than other people at my age. If I was single, I wouldn't be clinging on to some poor sap who fell for me...I'd be partyin' it up and having an insane social life like I used to! (Ok, is my point moot now that I'm getting married?? He wanted to get married also!) But seriously, I still sometimes get the urge to go out and get crazy, buuuuut I've got grown-up responsibilities and whatnot nowadays. *sigh*

😛



lol when I turned 23 last sunday it actually hit me that slowly but surely I am dying.

I swear lol not even tryna depress anyone.

One day - I thought - I will be no more.



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Posted by FeistyAquarian
It does. I used to be excited to get mail cause it would be letters and gifts from family members...now it's "credit card approvals" and bills.
Christmas used to be amazing and wonderful. Now it's time to drain my checking account and give gifts to people they'll never use.
Don't even get me started on birthdays...
Work. It's boring and monotonous, no matter what job you have usually.
Friends. What friends?? Who wants to stick around you when you're getting married and having babies??

hehe I knew there was a reason I always said I was a Toys'R'Us kid 😛



Oivy. So depressing. Especially the bills and job part.

Yuk.

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Wow, this thread certianly exploded while I was gone. I dont consider myself a guru btw. I'm just giving one of the guy's perspective from dating. You can take my suggestion or leave it.

I dont have trouble with attracting women contrary to popular belief here. I get a lot of single women who show interest but since it is a college town, they are usually 18-20 yo. Now I dont have any reservations dating a younger woman. But getting into an exclusive relationship? No thanks.

As I've posted in many a thread before, there's not just the element of younger women needing to sow their oats. Its the fact that she's going to change so much going down her 20's. What she wanted out of life at 22 is going to be much different at 29. And I dont want to waste my time in a serious relationship when I know beforehand it wont work out due to this instability.

Being fair here here, do a lot of women my age know what they want? No. But there is a much, much higher ratio of that with younger women than older ones.

I'm not a commitment phobe. Like tba (sorry cant remember the scree name said) it's the vibe which comes across of going into a relationship with the wrong intentions from her end. I've never had more than maybe a paragraph with this girl before meeting with her. It bears to repeat that sentence was the first words out of her mouth when I came in the door.

That to me is a huge red flag which screams somethings not right here. I need to get to know this woman before we even arrive at this point of conversation. Im not intimidated by her knowing what she wants. Quick fact: (I'm a Sag Moon with a Mars in Sag, and Venus in Libra) I personally felt she doesnt really know what she wants and desires to go into a relationship for the wrong reasons. I've been through that before with another woman. My blind date exhibited the same tell-tale signs the other did.

As far as how it ended here it goes. She says her thing before we can even say hello. I dont say anything for about half a minute. I finally speak saying "You know, I think we want the same thing ultimately but it's veering off in two different directions, I can already tell that we're very different in how we go about things. Which is crucial. I feel it would be a disservice to further waste more time than you already have. You're probably a great lady and iw ish nothing but the best in terms of finding that special someone." To Be Continued...
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Then I walked away. A day later I called my friend Cat who set it up in the first place. Told her what happened. And she freaked out. Surprisingly, not at me. "She really did that?! OMG I'm so sorry. I really thought she was starting to get her sh-t together after Jeremy broke it off with her." I asked how long ago it happened. "Four weeks" she said. "And you seriously thought that would be enough time for her to be set up on a date? No f---ing wonder"

So, this woman was in rebound mode. Which initially, I would not have a problem with, if she was just looking for a Friends Who F--K Scenario. But she was looking to jump into another relationship. I never did get her sign but something tells me she was either a Leo or Aries or a moon sign of the two. I've seen it much too often with Fire sign girls, they jump from relationship to relationship without any break at all.

I dont know about you guys, but I dont do rebound relationships. Sex sure, but not that. I aint gonna be in her trail of broken hearts.

I think a lot of the women on here secretly agree with me about her directness being out of line at that point in time. But the reality is alot of people hold grudges/have strong feelings from past posts I've made. And they carried it over with them into this thread. So admitting the possibility even of me being right is too much for them to deal with.

And hey, that's their right even if it's wrong. There are some people in past topics who i've vehemntly disagreed with. But if they happen to say something I agree with, there's no hesitation in admitting they're right. But that's just me.

When a commitment is made to a relationship, I give 1000% . But what has happened in the past is I gave more than received. So I'm extremely cautious about entering into another. I want to make sure it's the right person instead of jumping from relationship to relationship hoping to land the right one.

So if my cautiousness is considered commitphobia, so be it. My "commitphobia" has saved me more than once from disasterous relationships which have befallen people my age.

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Some women truly have entitlement issues.

Having fun and getting to know someone doesn't register anymore with these types. They THINK a husband, a kid or two, and a home is what they want.

But that's bull, like everything else we are taught in this world.

Love is slow building. Love for family for friends, THAT'S real love, which endures because you ask little of these people and they ask little of you.

Which is what makes walking away from these people much more harder to do than walking away from a marriage, a wife, a girlfriend.

Whenever I read about celebrities like Kurt Russell who aren't married but have been with the same woman for YEARS, it gives me hope, that being friends as well as lovers isn't dead.

Home girl isn't going to find love.

Nuh Uh, she ain't.

Being that direct without first forming any sort of bond is just off-putting.

Turn it around for a moment. If a guy came out with it in the first few seconds "I hope you're not on your period because I'd really like for this to end in the bedroom" how the f**k would you react?

It's the same directness after all. And you can't say dude doesn't know what he wants.

He does.

P**sy 🙂



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I have to go with LET IT BE I am in a way like her when I meet a new bird I am as up front as I can be I tell them I am a rounder and a bit of a proper Al K Hall Ick. that ends the relationship quick for the most part if you want to call a few meeting a relationship. and I take no afront. more women should be as she is. They also should be able to understand that even if there is an attraction it may not work out. people can see if its going to work out after a fort night. doesn't take a lot of time to decide where something is going.
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Posted by satori
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Girls will always have problems with aquarius men. The guys are just too knowing.



hahahahahahaha! I've never encountered a "too knowing" Aqua man myself, but how is saying that any different than a Scorpio saying we are just too powerful??
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In my experience I have not met a single aquarius person whether male or female who is not intuitive in an evil way.

The scorpios I've met (and keep meeting) have been weak. Whether at a conversational level or an emotional level.

This is MY experience, an aqua talking about scorpios. NOT what astrologers say.

It seems that most scorps read the scorpio description, go "Oh, we're supposed to be the most powerful" and try to live up to that, harping on about it without actually BEING.

But I've seen 'em get walked over by leos, aquas, and even pisces people. AND, not get revenge.

Hell, i've walked over a scorpio myself. No revenge, no sting.

To be powerful you can't be overly emotional. Which is where the scorpios I've met and observed fail.

Who knows, maybe they ARE powerful. Maybe it has to be believed and not seen.

But the belief is only in the scorpios head.

Meanwhile, every other sign comes out with the "aquarius people are smart" line.

You and I both know that they don't mean "smart" when they say this.
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Posted by satori
and I've seen lots of craigslist ads from men stating that they are only looking for serious relationships and marriage. What is the difference in what home girl said?

NIB said- Turn it around for a moment. If a guy came out with it in the first few seconds "I hope you're not on your period because I'd really like for this to end in the bedroom" how the f**k would you react?

It's the same directness after all. And you can't say dude doesn't know what he wants.

He does.

P**sy


I wish more men would be that forthcoming then women wouldn't waste their time on those types.



LOL same way I wish giurls would come out with the junk she came out with instead of springing it on the poor guy later.

This isn't an argument either of us is going to win, Satori lol
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Posted by Let*It*Be


Well you must be talking about trash that would expect that type of question, I happen
to have already weeded out the jackass before he could ask something that disrespectful. Hence
my direct demeanor with men or jackasses in general. It works well for me.



Okay. See here's the thing: THE QUESTION IS DISRESPECTFUL. The motive isn't.

Same with home girl. She KNOWS what she wants. But NO GUY has to give it to her if they're put off by someone who sounds like a demanding b**ch.

The same goes for any girl who is asked about f**king on the first night.



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Posted by Aqualeo
But you would be surprised to find that women would still end up with men like that.

Some would argue she has no self respect others not and on and on it goes.

At the end of the day where you are in life and what you want will differ.

If you don't like it move on just because it's not your cup of tea does not mean it won't be for another.

Maybe some people want to have fun and just go with the flow.

Other people want things laid down from day one.





Exactly, which is why I stressed my opinions are MY OWN.

A lot of the chicks who argue for the girl most likely would NOT say that in the first few seconds of a date with a random stranger.

They say women are intuitive. I call bullsh** to that, if you have to depend on a guy running away from what sounds like a baggage and shackles test to decipher the good from the bad.

Guys can pretend, too, you know. Just because he decides to go on as though you weren't direct doesn't mean he's the one.

Some things you can only truly tell by sitting down and having a conversation with someone.

What a guy wants relationship wise is one of those things.
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Girls will always have problems with aquarius men. The guys are just too knowing.



hahahahahahaha! I've never encountered a "too knowing" Aqua man myself, but how is saying that any different than a Scorpio saying we are just too powerful??



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In my experience I have not met a single aquarius person whether male or female who is not intuitive in an evil way.

The scorpios I've met (and keep meeting) have been weak. Whether at a conversational level or an emotional level.

This is MY experience, an aqua talking about scorpios. NOT what astrologers say.

It seems that most scorps read the scorpio description, go "Oh, we're supposed to be the most powerful" and try to live up to that, harping on about it without actually BEING.

But I've seen 'em get walked over by leos, aquas, and even pisces people. AND, not get revenge.

Hell, i've walked over a scorpio myself. No revenge, no sting.

To be powerful you can't be overly emotional. Which is where the scorpios I've met and observed fail.

Who knows, maybe they ARE powerful. Maybe it has to be believed and not seen.

But the belief is only in the scorpios head.

Meanwhile, every other sign comes out with the "aquarius people are smart" line.

You and I both know that they don't mean "smart" when they say this.
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Before you spring the whole superiority complex argument on me, I will go on to say I don't make the rules.

Some people can be naturally cunning. No one is born naturally powerful (you have to earn that).
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My argument isn't her directness. No guy in his right mind would hate on a honest woman, especially since a lot of those are rare (no chavue).

But there's a difference between being honest and being pushy.

FB might have liked her. Hey may have thought she was relationship potential, who knows.

But the point is he didn't KNOW her.

Really what did she expect? FB drop to his knees and pull out a wedding ring? Get the fugg outta here.

Girls are the very same who cry "creep" when they get advances that don't sit well with them from a man.

I'm all for accepting people for who they are, but - this is important - ONLY when I've gotten to know them.



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Posted by FlyingBurritos80


"I just bought a new house, and adopted two dogs. I'm only looking for a serious and permanent relationship. I dont want to date for half a year and then find out I wasted my time. Are you ok with that?"




Wow... read that again.

REALLY?!

She had to be out of her mind to expect a positive reaction.

Seriously.

Even in a relationship I'd get offended about the "wasted my time" part.

And is that even a good enough reason to be with someone?

The permanence? Someone can be serious about you. Hell, some people can be in your life permanently.

Doesn't mean they f**king love you.

All she wanted was the dream. The house, the kids, the sparkler, the status as a "wife".

She didn't want FB.

Is half a year long enough to actually even KNOW someone completely to love, trust and want to be with them for the REST OF YOUR LIFE?

Even children take longer than that to love and appreciate their parents.

Good God, ladies.



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and I've seen lots of craigslist ads from men stating that they are only looking for serious relationships and marriage. What is the difference in what home girl said?




When you read these ads, do you BELIEVE the guy?

Okay, Satori, here's the difference. The difference is while the guy is trying to make himself look good on craiglist, the girl did a pretty bad job looking good by saying it out loud.

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"Same with home girl. She KNOWS what she wants. But NO GUY has to give it to her if they're put off by someone who sounds like a demanding b**ch."


A question is one thing, a demand is another. Again, she asked a question that was right for her and learned it was for the wrong person (you). Bottom line, she got what she wanted, she saved herself precious time and energy. I admire her for that and kudos to her. She'll find the right guy soon enough.



O...kay. She didn't get what she wanted, L.I.B (a man, some kids etc etc).

You KNOW this.

And there's a way you ask a question that makes it sond like a demand.

You know this as well.

I don't think the right guy will be someone she'll spend six months with before jumping the gun.

What kind of rlationship would that be? Move in togeher after three months, get married after six?

Please.

It's a disaster waiting to happen.

You know this.

Still, whatever, I don't know the chick, neither do I care.

My thing is people giving FB stick for the post, talking as though he were in the wrong.

He isn't. Neither is any other guy that reacts the way he did.

A woman can jump to the next man immediately one relationship is over.

Meanwhile, a man takes longer to heal and only carer-type women would even so much as look at him in his depressed state.

It's too many women want the finished article when they aren't themselves.

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I can only be deathly honest on here.

I don't hate women. But I despise the pretence that a lot of women hide behind.

Who's seen The Hurt Locker? It's a film about bomb diffusers in Iraq, which uses one man's story to pose the difficult question of whether some people go to war for the thrill.

Good movie.

Anyway, near the end there is a bit where the main character is back in America with his wife and child.

And a beautiful wife she is.

He tells her a heartfelt story about a guy who lures some children to his candy or icecream van (can't remeber) before detonating a bomb that kills himself and the kids. For all his machismo throughout the movie he is at his most vulnerable in this scene.

Her reply?

"Can you peel these carrots, please?"

Makes you think don't it?

Some people just want a life style . They don't care about the people in it.

Safe tosay the film ended wth him walking into the killzone again.

Looking happy.



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I can only be deathly honest on here.

I don't hate women. But I despise the pretence that a lot of women hide behind.

Who's seen The Hurt Locker? It's a film about bomb diffusers in Iraq, which uses one man's story to pose the difficult question of whether some people go to war for the thrill.

Good movie.

Anyway, near the end there is a bit where the main character is back in America with his wife and child.

And a beautiful wife she is.

He tells her a heartfelt story about a guy who lures some children to his candy or icecream van (can't remeber) before detonating a bomb that kills himself and the kids. For all his machismo throughout the movie he is at his most vulnerable in this scene.

Her reply?

"Can you peel these carrots, please?"

Makes you think don't it?

Some people just want a life style . They don't care about the people in it.

Safe tosay the film ended wth him walking into the killzone again.

Looking happy.






Two things:

1) I would have given the guy (traumatized husband) a hug after a story like that. Empathy is a highly under-utilized emotion these days.

2) I feel using this movie to illustrate your perceptions about gender dynamics is pretty ridiculous, to say the least.
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To point one: exactly. Some form of acknowledgment would've at least sufficed.

To point two: It was fitting to this particular thread and you know it.

Now, I won't hate you for wanting to get married for a reason that isn't smart enough in my eyes. To each their own, if I were female who knows if I'd be the stereotypical little girl who dreamt of her wedding day while playing with Barbie and Ken dolls.

But when you complain about being in a loveless and unhappy marriage after going into the marriage for such reasons as no wanting to be alone yada yada...

...it'll make me wonder if you are insane and actually think at all before you do things.

Again, only defending Flying Burrito. Divorces will happen, kid's childhoods will be screwed up but the world will keep turning no matter what.

Couldn't give two sh**s if I'm being chaveunistic.

I'd rather be a pig, a dog or what other name chicks like to throw at men than an utterly stupid human being 🙂







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Aqua leo, the summary is I'm not telling ladies to "shut up". I'm saying there's a much smarter way to express your "needs".

I'm saying when security becomes more important than the two people involved in relationship, you've pretty much f**ked up.

I'm saying good for your cousin. But she probably got to know her husband before talks about marriage came up. In other words, she didn't just blurt it out on first f**king date.

I'm saying yes i'm not the only fish in the see, but you won't get a second date with how many other fish there are in it if you came out with stuff like that.

Fine, you don't agree with going with the flow. Okay. But what's the point of being with someone who stresses you out?

Who can't f**kng relax?

Love ain't a fight, ya know.
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Well, personally I would never say what the girl in the original post said to FB. It comes across as being kinda desperate, regardless of how 'honest' or straightforward she intended to be.


This doesn't change the fact that both you and FB seem very jaded in the female department, NIB.



But it IS boring though, Jade.

And just because other men don't come out and say it does not mean they aren't thinking it.

And if asking for honesty with self and me is too much, then there's something wrong with how this man/woman thing is "supposed" to work.

But I'm not gonna go with a girl who wraps everything up so she comes out smelling like roses every time. The girl on here probably think she was a bit brash but are arguing for the sake of feminism. They really DON'T CARE.



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And the whole jaded/bitter argument is played out.

I KNOW the truth about the way things are, and given the differences between men and women (which I mentioned back in our little arguments, Jade), it makes a kind of sense.

But even though it never will be, I want it to be acknowledged.

Because some people feel they have rights they don't even earn.#

But what do I know, I'm just jaded.

Which makes you what, Jade?

Like I said in my hidden posts, SOMEONE has to fight for women. There's too many monsters born with penises 🙂
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And the whole jaded/bitter argument is played out.

I KNOW the truth about the way things are, and given the differences between men and women (which I mentioned back in our little arguments, Jade), it makes a kind of sense.

But even though it never will be, I want it to be acknowledged.

Because some people feel they have rights they don't even earn.#

But what do I know, I'm just jaded.

Which makes you what, Jade?

Like I said in my hidden posts, SOMEONE has to fight for women. There's too many monsters born with penises 🙂



I like to think of myself as a humanist, and NEVER a feminist. A feminist is someone who believes women are oppressed or somehow less equal than men (from a societal standpoint), and spend their time fighting against this principle. I have never felt oppressed by men; rather, some of my best buddies are guys.

I believe women are equal to man, but dramatically different in approach. I try not to stereotype based on gender, because there are both female AND male assholes.

I have never seen FB post about ANY OTHER SUBJECT except the male/female dynamic. And let's face it- you always seem to chime in on these kinds of topics too. It just gets kinda tiring to hear the same topic regurgitated over and over.

And as far as you KNOWING THE TRUTH, I would argue that your 'truth' is a subjective truth, coloured by your own experiences in life. The same holds for my 'TRUTH', and everyone else's 'TRUTH'.

So where does that leave any of us? Well, you could keep complaining about women, or you might try envisioning things from an entirely different perspective.

I'm sorry that the experiences of your life have resulted in you having a certain opinion about women and their motivations. But come one- bitching and whining doesn't really do anything other than make you look like a bitch and a whiner.


Just sayin'.
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Hey... Long as your mind leads you down that path once in a while, I'm cool being seen as a b**cher.

But if it doesn't?

All I can wonder is how you sleep at night, humanist 🙂

Anyway, if it didn't work for you, you'd b**ch. Maybe even harder than FB and I seem to 🙂

But it does. So, yup, i'm a whiner.

End of story 🙂
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Posted by jade_dragon
"All I can wonder is how you sleep at night, humanist"




^^This^^ rhetorical diversion makes absolutely no sense in the context of our discussion. Clearly, you are unable to separate your emotions from your logic. Strange, because you often seem to accuse others of doing the exact same thing.


This is called 'projection'.


And as far as how I sleep at night.....I sleep in a warm bed, beside my awesome boyfriend, with our cat usually on one of our pillows.


How about you?


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LOL

REALLY?!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm emotional?! You're the one going on the rant, though?

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I've got the hugest smile on my face right now.

To answer your second question, Jade, mmmm, pretty good. To some I'm a bit of a bum, though, waking late and stuff.

It's Almost 3 o'clock in the morning here, so I'll be waking up by 2 pm later today, give or take.

Struggling to write though...

You're funny, Jade 🙂

I just said "it makes me wonder how you sleep at night". I didn't ASK lol

Aaaaah, go away, you 🙂

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