SirHorns
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Would you date an astrologer?
Posted by ImpulsvBrave woman! 🙂
It be my experiment to see how good he is at deciphering
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXFair enough. Not really a matter of belief though, it works if you believe or you don't.
No.
I couldn't deal with anyone who made astrology their life.
I barely believe in it myself.
Now as to why it works...another story.
Posted by Tirano24What makes it a deal breaker?
Hell no.click to expand
Posted by tizianiSpeaking from experience?
As long as they promise to put the chart down. Same problems with dating a psychologist.
Posted by ChoXtsyHow do they normally behave?
No. I don't like dating people that are into astrology
Posted by LonerLoopWhat's the biggest turn off about it?
No just no.
Hell Nah!!!!
Posted by Tirano24If they're good, they'll know better than to act that way. While they'll be able to see the chart, how you express it is always your choice and your choice alone. Best they can do is just be really good a guessing how you;d react to a situation (depending on how many techniques they use).
The thought of someone thinking that looking at my chart would automatically mean they know my ins and outs would grate my nerves. Then they'd most likely always use me in examples like "my man has X placements and he behaves like this". I don't want to feel like a test subject.
I think pros wouldn't do it unless you asked.
Posted by ChoXtsyYeah, I can see that losing appeal pretty fast.Posted by SirHornsHow you'd expect. "Oh you do this because you're a libra" "Oh yeah, that's so libra of you" " I knew you'd say that because your Mercury is in Scorpio". Even though we do that, two people doing it to each other is annoying. lolPosted by ChoXtsyHow do they normally behave?
No. I don't like dating people that are into astrologyclick to expand
Posted by UdylawWhy?
Hell Nah!!!!
Posted by Impulsv*high-fives* Priorities on point.
But I'm a cappie rise no so be better have a solid job n astrology secondary lol
Posted by tizianiInteresting, since you can read charts and apparently have had your chat used against you, you literally can see both sides.Posted by SirHornsDating psychology students is about as much as I have to base it on.Posted by tizianiSpeaking from experience?
As long as they promise to put the chart down. Same problems with dating a psychologist.
Never dated an astrologer, but I've been in relationships with two women who will start referring to my chart in the middle of disagreements. It's a dick move imo.
It's not about how well you think you know someone that matters to them, it's about how you make them feel, how you come across - whether you look like you're listening, paying attention and supporting them. Are you asking the right questions still? Do you still take a genuine intellectual curiosity in your partner's day and where they're growing to? I can't see how a chart will not help you with this in any respect, other than to serve as a (sometime) background reference to enrichen your topical discussions.
I know Elle disagrees with me on this, but it's what I sincerely advise.
As for negative reactions to the work, I've never experienced that.click to expand
Posted by tizianiI don't know man, animal sex with Wendy Rhoades sound appealing.
As long as they promise to put the chart down. Same problems with dating a psychologist.
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXIf by debunked you mean people being unaware of the difference between the tropical and sidereal systems, thus asserting that the "true (sidereal) zodiac" is one sign sign off from our (tropical/western) system.
If you're insinuating that astrology is real whether I believe in it or not, that just goes to show why I would never date someone with that mentality.
Astrology has many holes in it. It's not backed by science or any other credible sources for that matter. There are plenty of scientific articles debunking it though.
There is nothing truly factual about astrology. Astrology revolves around superstition.
You can theorize about it all you want, but to flat out say "it works" in my opinion, is a reflection of your own ignorance.
Furthermore, quite a few scientists actually looked into it: Kepler, Michel Gauquelin and a handful of others.
Also history has something to say to it's credibility as well, since if astrologers were wrong, they were killed by the royalty/government. Yet many the were sought after so much that society/political elites/noblemen used their services repeatedly throughout history. The enlightenment made threw astrology into the superstition barrel mainly since science at the time couldn't figure out how it worked mechanically speaking.
Astrology is related to Chaos Theory, however chaos theory is outside of linear mathematics/school of though. Hence why it's easier to write if off as garbage instead of looking into the mechanics of how it works, for which if you did, you see math and geometry are ever present in calculating charts.
But go ahead and listen to Bill Nye the Science Guy, he clearly did his research and wouldn't dream of half-assing his "debunking" just stay relevant in society.
Posted by SirHornsNo that's crazy, not without checking our synastry and composite charts first.
All things considered, would you?
Would you? Why or why not?
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXI high fived one person over their comment of having the astrologer having a normal job and having their astro practice as secondary.
Then you're verbally high-fiving the people on this thread who are saying what you wanted to hear.
You didn't ask this question to simply gauge peoples responses.
You have your own agenda.
I hate when people do this type of thing.
My agenda is simple data collection.
I dislike it when people misunderstand my actions. Granted it isn't like I have strong Neptune influence and that as an Aries you can make quick judgments, without sweating details of confirming assumptions. No, this is just random. Life is random.
Posted by rabidtalkerTheir Pluto trine your VenusPosted by SirHornsNo that's crazy, not without checking our synastry and composite charts first.
All things considered, would you?
Would you? Why or why not?
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Their Jupiter trine your mars
Their Sun conjunct your Moon
^- Enjoy.
Because everything around us and between us will be based on astrology
Posted by FknNerdFlaw detection. Got it.
Yeah, it would be fun. I dont want to date anyone who cant even open their mind to astrology and talk about it. I want to date someone who is open to talking about anything regardless of how ridiculous it is. And I can accept my flaws so if they point them out I'll be like true, I am an ahole virgo.
Thank you for the post. Now go being anal-retentive while i'm miserly.
We need to keep our sign sterotypes alive.
Can you imagine the arguments.... Hahaha now hon, you don't really mean that, your mars is squaring Pluto, that's all.... Hahaha ?
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXI could be a dick and just brush off your snark as Aries behavior, but nah.
But I'm guessing by your blind belief in a system that has never proven to be true, you probably just found out Santa Claus wasn't real about a week ago.
http://www.kepler.edu/home/index.php/articles/astrology-culture/item/505-astrology-orderly-chaos
You asked and received. Furthermore, manipulation only can do so much. Sure you make people think all sorts of shit, but concrete results are things that either are or not. They either were right or wrong. They likely would have wouldn't have been taken nearly as seriously if they used astro jaron like that to explain things to clients that were depending on them for insight that effected the livelihoods of many.
J.P. Morgan and Warren Buffet both are pro-astrology and are super rich, wonder why they would say that? Or why business seek out astrologers now for consultations related to deals, etc. Repeatedly and consistently.
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXAlthough you could use it to your advantage... babe, it's merc rx, you know what that means, I'm probably better off, having a girls weekend than risking any misunderstandings with you... so it might have its pluses.Posted by TaurusinTexasDude....shoot me now.
Can you imagine the arguments.... Hahaha now hon, you don't really mean that, your mars is squaring Pluto, that's all.... Hahaha ?click to expand
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXCare to share that proof?
I have no problem with people who fully believe in astrology.
Hell, you can believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, or big foot for all I care.
What I DO have a problem with, is people shoving their beliefs down other peoples throats.
It's a fact that astrology is not accepted in the scientific world because it has been proven time and time again to be false for various different reasons.
Posted by ImpulsvIt can't even explain the mechanics of how magnets work.
Yet science can't even explain Maya's astrology n engineering
Yes magnetism, but what is it? Step-by-step, tell me how it works.
Pfft. Hard Science or GETOUT? And they have the nerve to attack people they see as being blind in beliefs.
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXPosted by SirHornsYour behavior is no better than mine when you're talking down towards people who don't believe in the bullshit that you choose to believe in.Posted by xXxAliciaXxXI could be a dick and just brush off your snark as Aries behavior, but nah.
But I'm guessing by your blind belief in a system that has never proven to be true, you probably just found out Santa Claus wasn't real about a week ago.
http://www.kepler.edu/home/index.php/articles/astrology-culture/item/505-astrology-orderly-chaos
You asked and received. Furthermore, manipulation only can do so much. Sure you make people think all sorts of shit, but concrete results are things that either are or not. They either were right or wrong. They likely would have wouldn't have been taken nearly as seriously if they used astro jaron like that to explain things to clients that were depending on them for insight that effected the livelihoods of many.
J.P. Morgan and Warren Buffet both are pro-astrology and are super rich, wonder why they would say that? Or why business seek out astrologers now for consultations related to deals, etc. Repeatedly and consistently.
The article explanations correlations but there is nothing concrete about it. There is still nothing in this article that states astrology as a credible belief system. Astrology remains a theory at best because there's nothing FACTUAL about it. As I stated before.
Manipulation can only "do so much"? Wrong. It can do a lot. Look at you, blindly defending a belief system which is not back by science or any other concrete facts. The chaos theory, as interesting as it is, still does not support astrology.
Think about it. When you look at anyone's chart, it is ALL over the place. Full of sun. moon, Venus, mercury etc. Then thats divided into these magical "house" and those house are at "degrees" and the positions are squared, trine, opposite, etc. It goes on forever.
You can literally justify or explain ANYONE'S behavior with a single chart from a random person.
If I took your chart and looked at it, I bet I could find a way to explain how it fits me completely. Even though its not my chart. Thats why all of these extra placements were invented. To keep people like you believing.
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The last part. Care to test it? Not just with us. Just get people's charts at random, then try to pull that manipulation off.
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXThe wiki was better written and presented. The thing here is pretty clear.Posted by SirHornshttp://theconversation.com/some-people-think-astrology-is-a-science-heres-why-28642Posted by xXxAliciaXxXCare to share that proof?
I have no problem with people who fully believe in astrology.
Hell, you can believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny, or big foot for all I care.
What I DO have a problem with, is people shoving their beliefs down other peoples throats.
It's a fact that astrology is not accepted in the scientific world because it has been proven time and time again to be false for various different reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_and_science
Read up.
I already know that it won't matter what I link you to though. You'll discredit it because believing in astrology provides some sort of comfort for you. For whatever reason that may be. I don't mind you having your little security blanket, but please don't try to preach when what you believe in is not factual, but theoretical at best.click to expand
Fact= Science
So if it doesn't fit in the hard science style litmus test, it get's pesduo-science at best or nonsense at worst.
So despite all the science saying it doesn't work and people are just lying to themselves that it is, how is it that astrology can and has been used to correctly predict/forecast events?
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXI outright said i wasn't going to do that.
Even throughout this conversation you judge me because I'm an Aries.
That alone is obnoxious, but living with THAT in a relationship?
No fucking way in hell. You've proven my original point.
Read the whole post, don't just cherry pick stuff to make whatever you say seem more valid.
To all you sayng no, what if the astrologer was a multi-millionaire and just did the astrology for fun and not to live on, but still for pay?
Posted by ExplicitAgreed, thanks for the post.
If we got along, had a solid connection and it just happened organically, then why not?
Just because someone is an Astrologer it doesn't mean our whole lives is going to revolve around Astrology. My dad always worked like a beast, but he never brought his career home or discussed it much with my mom. There are plenty of people who work hard or do a certain job but their home lives remain their home lives and they keep their careers out of it.
I've never done it.. so for now, I would say yes. I would like someone knowing me through my chart. But in saying this, I would probably get irritated after a while.
Posted by xXxAliciaXxXPosted by SirHorns"I could be a dick and just brush off your snark as Aries behavior, but nah."Posted by xXxAliciaXxXI outright said i wasn't going to do that.
Even throughout this conversation you judge me because I'm an Aries.
That alone is obnoxious, but living with THAT in a relationship?
No fucking way in hell. You've proven my original point.
Read the whole post, don't just cherry pick stuff to make whatever you say seem more valid.
That to me looks like you're pointing out my "snarky" behavior and attributing it to me being an Aries.
It's being done in a passive aggressive manner, but you're still doing it. Be real.
Look, like i said at the very beginning I have no issue with you or anyone else being deeply into astrology.
I'll never walk up to someone who believes and tell them that they are flat out wrong, even if that's what I believe.
I respect others beliefs no matter how far fetched they may seem to me, but when someone approaches me and tries to basically force their beliefs onto me and tell me for a fact that what they believe is truth that's when I get to running my mouth.click to expand
So me saying it works despite if you believe it does = cramming my beliefs down your throat?
Seems a bit of an over reaction, since, if what you say is true and I had said Santa Claus is real, I doubt I would gotten the same reaction or taken seriously for that matter.
Posted by Se7enNever, say never.
An astrologer wouldn't date me - Gemini
#GeminiLivesMatter
http://www.astrologer.com/tests/basisofastrology.htm#scievidence
Since chaos theory just got "theory-zoned"
Since chaos theory just got "theory-zoned"
The people that wouldn't date an astrologer, would you date a pychologist?
Posted by rabidtalker$ - $ must not sell self...
To all you sayng no, what if the astrologer was a multi-millionaire and just did the astrology for fun and not to live on, but still for pay?
Posted by tizianiFunny you mention that because I thought the same and I've dated a psychologist and a close FF is a psychologist too. They're fine people. Sensitive and caring and not aloof or scary at all. So, yes, I'd date a professional astrologer if he made the good money at his profession like a psychologist does. Why not? Psychologists are taught not to analyze friends or family. Would it be the same with a professional astrologer?
As long as they promise to put the chart down. Same problems with dating a psychologist.
Well, I mean some people look at it like this, this guy (or gal) is just hustling to do whatever they can to make money and earn a honest living no matter what it takes so in a sense they respect that even if they dont like or believe in astrology. Some would then look at a millionaire like he/she was crazy for doing that since they now had a choice of doing other things, the world is their oyster so to speak and they choose their time doing.... THIS?
Posted by Seasonwhat is a FF?
Funny you mention that because I thought the same and I've dated a psychologist and a close FF is a psychologist too.
Posted by SirHornsFrom the article:
http://www.astrologer.com/tests/basisofastrology.htm#scievidence
Since chaos theory just got "theory-zoned"
Is astrology a science and does it matter?
The short answer to both is no. However, much depends on your definition of science. If you are looking for laws, objectivity and predictability, then science is really confined to physics, chemistry and molecular biology. The scientific part of astrology: tidal, seismic and meteorological correlations are an ancient and important part of astrology, but not enough to classify astrology as a hard science.
The same argument applies to many other so-called sciences: such as climatology and meteorology. Most scientists argue that fields that involve human consciousness and behaviour such as psychology, sociology, economics or human senses such as nutrition or music are not science. It is arguable that evolution is not scientific under this strict definition. The nearest equivalents to astrology are cooking or horticulture which are both a mix of art, science and craft.
Science has greatly improved the quality of our lives and enhanced our understanding of nature, but many fields that really matter to our lives are not scientific. Those who dismiss these alternative viewpoints support scientism, Such fundamental beliefs are counter to the open inquiring spirit of science. In scientism a claim is false until proven. In science a claim is unproven until proven.
Some argue that using certain dictionary definitions of science, there's a case that astrology is a science as there is a body of knowledge that can be taught. (OED 1996) However, the practice of astrology by most astrologers is better defined as an art or a craft than as a science and it would be wrong for these type of astrologers to claim to be scientists. As such it would also be equally wrong for a scientist who has not studied astrology, to consider him or herself qualified to judge such practices since they are outside the realm of science.
it's all about connecting the dots. it's not very easy to prove that a affects b, when there are so many steps of knock-on effect between a and b.
a true scientific evaluation would encompass many sciences and subsciences, something which the field itself cannot afford nor which any government is willing to fund.
a true scientific evaluation would encompass many sciences and subsciences, something which the field itself cannot afford nor which any government is willing to fund.
I give everyone a fair chance, even Caps
Posted by rabidtalkerPosted by Seasonwhat is a FF?
Funny you mention that because I thought the same and I've dated a psychologist and a close FF is a psychologist too.
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Female friend
Posted by SirHorns
All things considered, would you?
How would you cope with negative reactions about your love monkey's profession?
Or deal with the fact that if they see your chart, the can basically know you in ways many people take years to even get close to.
Would you? Why or why not?
Yes. I. Would. Hey. Boo.
Hi 😉 grrrrrrrrrrr
Posted by happyface1😉Posted by SirHorns
All things considered, would you?
How would you cope with negative reactions about your love monkey's profession?
Or deal with the fact that if they see your chart, the can basically know you in ways many people take years to even get close to.
Would you? Why or why not?
Yes. I. Would. Hey. Boo.
Hi 😉 grrrrrrrrrrr
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