Are Sagis just too much for a virgo?!

The virgo I have been seeing for 10 weeks just called it off! I think I jumped in and pushed too hard...he broke it off and doesnt seem like he will change his mind! Are Sag women too much?!!!

How did you know that!!

AND!!! Venus in scorpio!!!

If you " Pushed " someone. Was it really about them? Or YOU?

Posted by cinder
The virgo I have been seeing for 10 weeks just called it off! I think I jumped in and pushed too hard...he broke it off and doesnt seem like he will change his mind! Are Sag women too much?!!!

i believe so yes

there this smoking sagittarius i met, and i mean what a body!

if you say sagittarius is too much for virgo, then i HOPE i'm going to be walking funny

i'm kind of wanting to sink my teeth into this sagittarius haha

my friends tell me she's really kinky but why use such an incentive to entice me? do i come off as superficial?

either way, if i'm lucky i might get to experience this image in my head of the sound of draining a softdrink through a straw

Oh zeo!! Funny.........she will probably want you to sink your teeth in!......but only after you engage her mind and make her laugh!

DMV......it was probably about me! I really fell for this guy and being an open honest type it did my head in that he wouldnt communicate! I am all about giving but I need to get a little something back! If I lay it on the line and say how much I like you then let me know you are feeling the same...dont keep me guessing or waste my time! I want honest and open so just let me know then i can relax and back off! but I guess thats the lesson for me...to respect the way others function and process......

Posted by cinder
Oh zeo!! Funny.........she will probably want you to sink your teeth in!......but only after you engage her mind and make her laugh!

she likes health and fitness being the sagittarius that she is and philosophy of it. i think i have her interest in friendship because she likes to discuss health, diet, vegetarianism (hardcore), taking life for food, environment. i'm somewhat the same but from the omnivore angle, maybe a little too realistic. but its good that you mention about laughing because she does laugh at my silly sayings. i'm trying to make friends on a mental level to demonstrate i'm not just wanting to get into that body of hers. you know thats real good advice, you just might get me laid

She will respect you and have no judgement on your beliefs.......may even really enjoy debating them! Even if they are not hers......and that and yes, the laughter and feeling good around someone is the key to finding someone attractive!! You go boy!! But...she probably also will be flattered if you think shes hot!!

she basically wants a bf that is a hardcore vegetarian or convert a man into one haha. so i might have to disagree based on intuition but i havent hooked into her yet so your experience has more value than my intuition. but she sure does love debating why i should not eat meat. i am just afraid that if i am too realistic, she might get upset and take it personal

i really would like to know what sagittarius qualities will be too much for me to handle? i know sagittarius is fire and even i have a few plants in sagittarius - in fact sagittarius is my only fire element. and i do like it hot and spicy

Argh! You will do her head in because she will just want you to get her point of view!!! But by sticking to your guns...and not letting her steamroller her, you will intrigue!!! But you must be able to see both sides of the argument and let her know that! We are always up for a challenge...nothing too boring! Maybe her foot in mouth disease will bother you( we tend to be blunt and things come out wrong...its not intentional and we will get over it quickly! But can a sensitive Virgo?!!) Above all she is going to value your openness ( if you can do it Mr V!) and your smarts, and your sense of humor and fun. We are clever....but can have a short attention span if its not real or/and fun! Let us into your heads!!! And therein lies the challenge......can you handle us?!!!

This is why my Virgo and I found it hard...I could tell him stuff, and he would discuss things with me...but he always had that reserve I couldnt crack!! Drove me NUTS!!! I needed to see inside his head....he would argue things...but never fully explain.....so I couldn't understand......and felt barriers......so I was pushy!!! I would ask a question and he would say..."what do you think" or ask the question back! Yet if I answered a question with a question...he hated it! Surely there is a middle ground!! Yet...the intrigue kept me guessing...but he couldn't handle my need to question......so hence...you need to be able to be open! Or you will lose her....or she will push, and you will hate it!!

i'll read more about sagittarius rather than waste your time because i should also study up my only fire element for myself too

so the thought of a challenge is activating (what you call intriguing) for sagittarius?

i didnt realise i was supposed to be sensitive, i'm solid as a rock...

if you sagittarius get into our virgo head, will you get bored if you think you have seen all?

should i play mental chess with her to keep her guessing and challenging her to pin me down, figure me out?

I meant to say by you not letting her steamroller her!!!

No!! you dont let her steamroller you!! I have had some wine and worked 10 hours so am talking 10 to the dozen ( which is what we do!)!!!!

but you still want to get inside this guy's head and he didnt let you in. if i play such mind games with her, will that give me a good angle into her to get a good start? then i dont have to play mind games and be honest?

I think we like to get into your heads but if we are mentally stimulated and think that we have lots to discuss we will never be bored! The mental chess thing...is ok we do like the challenge and intrigue ....but we need to also understand where you are coming from! Or we might think it too hard! But we do like the challenge! We are mutable!! Your not wasting my time...it's fun!! Because it gets me thinking see.....we always are questioning and seeking to understand!! And relate! And I think Virgos are sensitive...mine had real mood swings...is that normal? From high to low very easily!

Its not about mind games...its about seeking understanding and different points of view! So I think...being challenging and stimulating is good...as long as you let her in at the same time...does that make sense?!

whats a mood swing? haha

the only mood swing is if i detect some sort of injustice or bullying

also i am very sensitive to the smell of verbal diarrhea and pretenders. i can smell a fake a mile away. i just cant stand dishonest, opportunistic people. thats when my mood swings from solid as a rock to i'm going to subjugate you while you're conscious about it. but thats about it, nothing very severe

challenging but stimulating, i know what you mean. if you could tell me how much resistance to apply and then how much i should give to hook her intrigue to a sagittarius, you'll save me some research time

So was my pushing him making him feel bullied?!! Hence he went from happy to grumpy?!!! I am certainly not fake!!! HHmmmnnn the amount of resistance?!! Tough...enough to make her want to know more....but let her know you are interested! Its a fine line...... it can't be so much that she doesnt know where she stands...but a sniff of an I'm interested to keep her hooked! She will just want to know more!!!

maybe he wanted to be dominant, i dont see how you are causing him to feel an injustice, it seems more who has power. when i mean by injustice i mean cheating, lying, sabotage, undermining, unfaithfulness, etc

he might not have much experience in power control or energetic women

I think...you could be right about the power struggle!! God I hope you get this girl...you so have to keep us updated!! She must be cool!

yeah i wouldnt mind getting a taste of her. my friend is a sagittarius and she is also smoking hot. but i didnt make a move and she's long been with her partner having a kid together. she really trashes her body with physical training... a little insecure about 'traditional' intelligence but being the realist i am, i tell her she's intelligent because you cant define intelligence. people are interested in different things so she shouldnt be insecure about that. its so strange such smoking hot women can be insecure

yet...somehow we are!! I felt that with my virgo too...I was not smart read the newspaper current affairs smart , but have a lot of smarts! Felt that maybe I couldnt keep up on his topics...but sure good with mine! I run a stem cell transplant unit for gods sake! And I am not ugly! Not Kate Moss...but always feel like maybe I am not good enough.....but I know I am ok!! Stupid! All to do with the communication I am sure!

dont feel insecure if you cant keep up on his interests, if he dominates you in his area of expertise, then thats a freebie he can have. but this is coming from someone who is non-competitive unless its in the boxing ring and sports

you are good at what you do, thats your territory, its pretty safe.

i dont think you need to worry about your looks, your photo is pretty hot. but i do agree with you that it is communication and how it alters perception

i had a short stint with a virgo and i think i am too much for him. i think he felt overwhelmed.

Posted by cinder
yet...somehow we are!! I felt that with my virgo too...I was not smart read the newspaper current affairs smart , but have a lot of smarts! Felt that maybe I couldnt keep up on his topics...but sure good with mine! I run a stem cell transplant unit for gods sake! And I am not ugly! Not Kate Moss...but always feel like maybe I am not good enough.....but I know I am ok!! Stupid! All to do with the communication I am sure!

Ooh girl I'm the same way. It messes me up too. So many people tell me im attractive but I just don't feel it. I have a Leo rising, so when I feel insecure or attacked then...RAAWRRR! But a male friend of mine is always saying how im scaring the man. Because it looks to the world like I have so many options, the MAN is usually feeling insecure. Then when I blow, it scares them like I'm going to leave, or I'm ranting because I have other men in the wings ready to take his spot. It's terrible because it's the total opposite 😢 Ugh. I'm still not able to come to terms with this.

Btw the virgo I was with did not think I was too much. I didn't think it of him either.

We went well together

Posted by scorsagianX
Interesting, cuz im on the cusp of scorp/sagg with leo rising too and I have those same feelings as Mebs and cinder. I feel im too much for some men and I think I scare them too, lol. So no scaredy cats for me, I would like to meet someone who can take me on.

That's the right attitude to have. The closest I ever found to that was a Leo. But he was just to damn controlling.

Sigh! All this talk just makes me pine for that virgo man! Iwant him to come back!!! And step up to the plate!!

what is so appealing about him?

Ahhh god! I dont know!!!! I just would like to see him and talk!! I am sure I could win him over!!!

Maybe his elusiveness!!
ANd his smarts! And that he is sensitive!! Gawd... I still have it bad! Help Zeo!!

dont want to cross the line and psycho-analyse but i'm a little worried about the off the bat reply. do you wonder if its worth thinking about to come to some realisation?

I cant help but blurt! There is no deep thing other that we get along...and I like him! I like talking to him, being with him, laughing together! I like his hugs, his mind and sensitivity! Its just my feeling.....

blurting means your most honest response

i think when you have trust, you'll really hit it off together. what his deal is, confuses me. nothing wrong with going on dates with you and getting to know you

what excuse could he possibly have? what is he skeptical about?

maybe he likes me but just not in "that way"?? and he knows i wanted more...and perhaps he thinks he will never want it like that in the future— So therefore called it off now?...But then I dont get the liking and the feelings and emotions bit...but maybe they were not deep enough— Would that be enough to convince a virgo to stop...rather than go with the flow and see what develops—

this guy is weird, there's something more than you dont know because there's a logic step missing. i would hate to think he is not being transparent, oh that gets me riled up

i feel sagittarius like fun and spontaneous, this is good for initial attraction. now you got to grab him by the balls, you sagittarius are direct right? but not in the literal sense. i mean to appeal to a strong motivator. find out for me what he's really passionate about and i'll show you how to appeal to it

He is very passionate about music...collects a lot of records especially from the 60's and latin music. And he surfs........is forever following the reports so he can take off to the beach. And film and Tv....as thats his work. I think he is honest with me.....just I got too pushy...but then i worry his feelings are not quite there and he thinks they never will be....but we still talk everyday, he will always respond to me. And I am sure he felt something!!!! But he is also not open enough!! Everything he says could be taken 2 ways and he refuses to clarify so it keeps me guessing! We had plans to see the ballet...now I have the tickets for next weekend and would like to invite him....but I am not sure that he will come........And yes... I am spontaneous and fun!!

Posted by cinder
He is very passionate about music...collects a lot of records especially from the 60's and latin music. And he surfs........is forever following the reports so he can take off to the beach. And film and Tv....as thats his work. I think he is honest with me.....just I got too pushy...but then i worry his feelings are not quite there and he thinks they never will be....but we still talk everyday, he will always respond to me. And I am sure he felt something!!!! But he is also not open enough!! Everything he says could be taken 2 ways and he refuses to clarify so it keeps me guessing! We had plans to see the ballet...now I have the tickets for next weekend and would like to invite him....but I am not sure that he will come........And yes... I am spontaneous and fun!!

you might have to do a little funny acting haha. like suddenly you like listening to whatever music he's listening to haha. "oh i just got the xxx album" haha

"oh virgo man, i dont know what wetsuit i should buy, 3, 5, or 7mm?"

"you know what would be an improvement to this tv program?"

have a try and tell me how he responds

should I try for the ballet?!

try for what he likes. you have to use his emotional drivers to connect to him. if ballet is what he likes, use it. if he doesnt like ballet, there maybe better vehicles you can use

I like ballet.....but he has always wanted to go and see one. And I think its a very nice atmosphere to go out too...not too much pressure on either of us.

haha i see through you now haha

what about you put on a leotard and dance for him? haha. actually don't i was just trying to be funny

make sure he does like ballet. trying to appeal to him when he's not activated is really difficult

ha ha ha ha yes I am always transparent!! Well when we did the split thing he said that he would really like to still go to the ballet and things with me...but was not sure if it would be a good idea...... I think he is just scared to be around me as he said if he see's me he will succumb to my charms! How contradictory he is always! But like I said..he still talks to me every day...and worries that I am ok....so he must still care a little. I dont like to think he just feels guilty, because in my experience most men just cut you off. By the way....anything with your sag?!!

play the friendship card and hit him with his emotional drivers

i need to make some time in the evening to talk to her. i am only concerned about her vegetarianism because i dont want to make her accept something she is not happy with. she wants a vegetarian lover and i'm openly omnivorous but i'm going to play the friends card because cant say anything until try. friends before lovers.

i only worry you sagittarius might get angry if things dont happen quickly

Um... I wouldn't say angry...but maybe a little impatient! Especially if we like someone! I think its fine to have two totally opposing views as long as you are not forcing them upon each other! Its funny on her side about wanting her lover to fit her exact mould....most sagi's live and let live....we are usually fine with others choices as long as they are fine with ours. Try the friends thing to get a feel for her....do you get the I'm interested vibe from her??

this sagittarius openly campaigns why eating meat is bad, why vegetarianism is ethically better. i'm a little worried, i like to accept people for who they are, which means i might offend her by being omnivorous.

i dont know what her exact situation is because some friends introduced us. but because i am so busy i dont get any time because i'm stuck running reactions and writing about them on a computer after spending so much time researching and problem solving. she apparently was with a guy about a month ago but now she's single and back to being friends with the guy. i'm afraid to intrude. i'm very territorial being born in year of dog

but we do joke with each other, i always tease her about a big arse (its sinfully tight). she really responds well to admiration and praise for her beauty. at most i can say interested to be friends, but she has a killer body though... just invokes my imagination.... but just friends for now haha

maybe next week i'll ask her for coffee like i've been promising. we are to talk philosophy and vegetarianism...with other aggressive vegetarian couple haha

i wont bore you with the small flirty updates, maybe when we get coffee and have a chance to talk i'll know whats going on and assess my chances

It will be interesting to hear! I am guessing she is a little younger? So still in that hard sticking to my way phase! But I dont think she will be offended.....just think she is right! Friends is good......joking is good! And I dont think you shpuld be afraid to intrude...she will probably talk about things naturally anyway!! And any woman will enjoy being admired!!