
that man healed me from within. When I take over the world, he shall be spared.


Posted by TwodrinkminimumI had the double whammy with the sag, the aries is only one way.
Plus, that mars/moon synastry is hard to live up to when it's over.

Posted by TwodrinkminimumI can appreciate that too. As well as the subtle messages you suggested. I've just never been one to settle in one category or the other very well without a fight. I like subtle in some cases and in my face in others. Similarly, I wouldn't want to dictate what my partner does in the bedroom all---or even most of the time. There is just a thrill in taking the lead when I'm in that type of mood and having a partner that really wants to be dominated and please you. When he's running the show I won't even bat an eyelash, just fall all the way back. I enjoy taking the lead and being led equally. Any time he tries to be too controlling in the bedroom I rebel. If I am taking too much of a lead I get bored. I need balance to keep me satisfied.When you get a good rhythm going and that switch between leading and being led is effortless it's amazing.
I get where DMV is coming from. If I have to explicitly state exactly what I want, I don't want it anymore? Then I feel like they're doing it out of obligation and not because it's what they really want to do. It's an act now and not spontaneous and exciting. I know this can't apply to everything but for me it definitely applies to the way I want to be sexed. There needs to be a little bit of a primal and animalistic approach to it. Not rehearsed and robotic because I told you to do it like that.


Posted by tizianiyou make me proud my fPosted by TwodrinkminimumI'm not trying to put PR's post on a pedestal but I believe her answer is exactly the way to go about re-lighting the initiative with someone like me. I have no idea what DMV's man's chart is, so it's likely what I'm saying is irrelevant.
I totally agree with you. No right or wrong way. But I don't think the aggressive approach is something DMV feels comfortable doing. Like she said, her Virgo likes servitude. My placements like to be bossed around a little bit too...so how can you get someone to act more dominant without feeling like you're forcing them?
I know in dry spells I especially relate to what PR said in the last part about observing what your partner is responsive to, it's kind of like training. I am probably more on the repetition/robotic side of the spectrum.
I don't understand how people cannot find passion in routine sex. To me it's like mastering/learning your partner's body. There's no greater orgasm waiting at the top of the mountain than looking into a mirror while you're both in bed and seeing just how good you've gotten at pushing one another's buttons.
But I have often....often.... heard that thing about how women hate being in the position of having to tell everything and the lack of spontaneuity so yeah. I hear it from women a lot.
I'm very observant about small details. For some reason I remember them. To the point where others will often say "how did you remember that about me?" (and in my head i'm thinking... "yeah, how DID I remember that about them?")
But before they even think to finish that thought for me, they have this intense happiness or pleasure on their face that I remembered. And when you talk about Virgo placements and servitude, THAT's the moment there that I live for. It's not like I like taking orders. I just like hearing what people like and getting it right. I'm thinking "yes, I've finally proved of use to you".
And some people will reply... "that's not right. You're not some tool just to be used."
But I'm thinking... don't worry about that, just f******g use me.
Once that's all out of my system I'm back to taking the lead.
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Posted by TwodrinkminimumThis.Posted by tizianilol but you missed the part on phoenix post where she said that's what she does with ho hum partners? lol. That's her last resort in her bag of tricks. Because no woman wants to feel like she has to take sex from a man every single time. If a woman doesn't feel desired in the relationship, I doubt she's going to be that aggressive. Ideally, you would both want each other equally but if you're feeling undesired the last thing some women want to do is feel like they're taking sex from their man.
It's funny cos Twodrinkminimums approach = libido killer for me. It makes you feel like a paedophile being on the end of that.
PhoenixRising's approach = I need a drink of water to calm down.
Provided it wasn't that way every single time. I enjoyed the being able to switch roles and what she said about observing the body's responses in order ro be able to take the lead again rings very true,
Having said that, we are all so different.click to expand

Posted by busyeyes88shit. Tieing up my laces.
My Mars is in taurus. Very very slow and sensual!! It loves to subtlely tease!!
DMV. His Mars being in Cancer means he would not be very 'forceful' or 'dominant'!

Posted by TwodrinkminimumSigh
Dammit :/ mars in Cancer though. Don't you think maybe he doesn't feel enough emotional security to be aggressive with you? Cancer placements need that. I dunno now.


Posted by TwodrinkminimumDMV will need to find a balance between what she feels comfortable with and how he "communicates" desire (visual, verbal, aggressive, submissive, etc). You can do whatever you want, but if the message gets lost in translation you'll just get frustrated.Posted by tizianiI totally agree with you. No right or wrong way. But I don't think the aggressive approach is something DMV feels comfortable doing. Like she said, her Virgo likes servitude. My placements like to be bossed around a little bit too...so how can you get someone to act more dominant without feeling like you're forcing them?Posted by TwodrinkminimumWell yes but I thought that was the heart of the matter. We're talking about "sticking it out" when the sex dies down a little. Not when it's going good.Posted by tizianilol but you missed the part on phoenix post where she said that's what she does with ho hum partners? lol. That's her last resort in her bag of tricks. Because no woman wants to feel like she has to take sex from a man every single time. If a woman doesn't feel desired in the relationship, I doubt she's going to be that aggressive. Ideally, you would both want each other equally but if you're feeling undesired, the last thing some women want to do is feel like they're taking sex from their man.
It's funny cos Twodrinkminimums approach = libido killer for me. It makes you feel like a paedophile being on the end of that.
PhoenixRising's approach = I need a drink of water to calm down.
Provided it wasn't that way every single time. I enjoyed the being able to switch roles and what she said about observing the body's responses in order ro be able to take the lead again rings very true,
Having said that, we are all so different.
Either way there's no right way to go about this. I hear your points. And I do like undergarments like you said.click to expand

Posted by Twodrinkminimumsounds like a stalemate
I can't be passionate like that with someone who is a fwb. Just like you said you can't kiss or cuddle. That's how you keep yourself detached from the situation. He's only doing the same and doing what is necessary to keep himself detached too. The reason he's probably driving those other women crazy is because they were filling him up emotionally. Why else would someone go crazy if they weren't pouring their heart out to someone? He probably needs that like you need a little bit of exciting drama every now and then.
That's the bad part about fwb situations...what expectations can you really have? It's too draining for me.

Posted by busyeyes88I may have to do some studying. This is a dusty chapter. Im used to wearing the leash, not wielding it.Posted by dontgetmewrongBINGO!!! We are on the same track!!
Looks like you need to bring out the handcuffs, blindfold and the feather!!!! 😄
Pretty sure that will bring the emotions out.
They say..if you or the other person can allow yourselves to be handcuffed there's a lot of trust there.
Time to unleash the beast!!! Lol lol well half beast lol lolclick to expand

Posted by SatoriiShe right thoLike I personally hate dick pix. It's just like in your face...okay, yep, that's a dick. But a pic of an outline of his dick in sweat pants...game over.lord yesclick to expand

Posted by busyeyes88Thanks...just trying to help any way I can 🙂Posted by beautifulsoul74I also agree with this!!Posted by DMVDMV, you already know the answer. At some point you're going ti actually face your options because eventually you will reach the bottom of the "better benefits" where there's simply no one left to iffer you better benefits as you describe them. From what I surmise...your going to actually have to try and have a real fruitful relationship with actual depth to sustain you. Can't keep running Love.
I'd like to break this cycle that I have. I do this every time. Pursue, get bored, leave. Rinse n repeat.
I have to say B74. You must be the only sag man I like!!! Lol lolclick to expand

Posted by DMV😉
Give her time Beautiful Soul, give her time

Posted by PhoenixRising+1Posted by TwodrinkminimumThis.Posted by tizianilol but you missed the part on phoenix post where she said that's what she does with ho hum partners? lol. That's her last resort in her bag of tricks. Because no woman wants to feel like she has to take sex from a man every single time. If a woman doesn't feel desired in the relationship, I doubt she's going to be that aggressive. Ideally, you would both want each other equally but if you're feeling undesired the last thing some women want to do is feel like they're taking sex from their man.
It's funny cos Twodrinkminimums approach = libido killer for me. It makes you feel like a paedophile being on the end of that.
PhoenixRising's approach = I need a drink of water to calm down.
Provided it wasn't that way every single time. I enjoyed the being able to switch roles and what she said about observing the body's responses in order ro be able to take the lead again rings very true,
Having said that, we are all so different.
Just to clarify ho-hum = lack of diversity or sexually constipated. Usually for religious reasons or a strong desire to look "composed". During sex? Come on.click to expand

Posted by beautifulsoul74so Im thinking I will still have to tie up my laces, because this is just a fwb situation. There is no depth, we dont go out, we dont talk on the phone. Then proceed to establish both good sex n maximum depth.Posted by busyeyes88Thanks...just trying to help any way I can 🙂Posted by beautifulsoul74I also agree with this!!Posted by DMVDMV, you already know the answer. At some point you're going ti actually face your options because eventually you will reach the bottom of the "better benefits" where there's simply no one left to iffer you better benefits as you describe them. From what I surmise...your going to actually have to try and have a real fruitful relationship with actual depth to sustain you. Can't keep running Love.
I'd like to break this cycle that I have. I do this every time. Pursue, get bored, leave. Rinse n repeat.
I have to say B74. You must be the only sag man I like!!! Lol lolclick to expand

Posted by BlackNovawhat is the end game?
I have a challenge for you DMV.
Stop watching television for at least one month. Seriously, NO television for one whole month.

Posted by SsupesI totally agree.
Talking about sex just leads to expectations. Then, you have soooo much pressure to live up to all the hype you've created just to get into the mood. Now, there is a certain amount of stress put on you (or him) to make it happen like that.


Posted by DMV+1 🙂...don't forget...patience.Posted by beautifulsoul74so Im thinking I will still have to tie up my laces, because this is just a fwb situation. There is no depth, we dont go out, we dont talk on the phone. Then proceed to establish both good sex n maximum depth.Posted by busyeyes88Thanks...just trying to help any way I can 🙂Posted by beautifulsoul74I also agree with this!!Posted by DMVDMV, you already know the answer. At some point you're going ti actually face your options because eventually you will reach the bottom of the "better benefits" where there's simply no one left to iffer you better benefits as you describe them. From what I surmise...your going to actually have to try and have a real fruitful relationship with actual depth to sustain you. Can't keep running Love.
I'd like to break this cycle that I have. I do this every time. Pursue, get bored, leave. Rinse n repeat.
I have to say B74. You must be the only sag man I like!!! Lol lolclick to expand

Posted by dontgetmewrongLol yup. Been here for a little while now. I drop in and out.
I didn't know BS74 was a male Saggy. Huh..Learned something new..

Posted by busyeyes88Aww thank you...cheers to understanding 😉! It has it's challenges but definitely a good placement lol. So what brings you 'round these here parts?Posted by beautifulsoul74B74. I notice you have a Leo moon.. I defo like you now!! I too have a Leo moon 😉 lol lol lol You are defo growing on me!! Lol lol!!!!!!!!!Posted by DMV😉
Give her time Beautiful Soul, give her timeclick to expand

Posted by exoskeletonthe struggle is real.Posted by DMV This is after being so obsessed and thinking about him 24/7. Maybe things are too routine for me now, too easy, and not as exciting and differnt as I fantasized them to be.oh girl.click to expand

Posted by busyeyes88Ah I see 🙂. It appears you have either a lesson to learn from us or we're part of your soul family...souls that travel with you through past and current lifetimes. Usually "bad" experiences are really no different than anything else. They teach you a new lesson or reinforce an old one. Thank you for the compliments! You're definitely level headed yourself from I can tell. It's the only way you can stay sane 😛Posted by beautifulsoul74I have had a very bad life lesson because of a sag and my sister is a sag, and the taurus I was platonic friends with has a sag moon and two other placements in sag, so curiosity I guess. Plus I have been reading your posts for a over a year or so and you seem so level headed. Then when I found out we shared the same moon... Well what can I say?!! Lol lol It goes without saying really!! Lol lol lol _ ?Posted by busyeyes88Aww thank you...cheers to understanding 😉! It has it's challenges but definitely a good placement lol. So what brings you 'round these here parts?Posted by beautifulsoul74B74. I notice you have a Leo moon.. I defo like you now!! I too have a Leo moon 😉 lol lol lol You are defo growing on me!! Lol lol!!!!!!!!!Posted by DMV😉
Give her time Beautiful Soul, give her timeclick to expand



Posted by busyeyes88horizontal polkaPosted by DMVDid you have sex with him? Ie dug out a ditch. Drill Master.'!—!!
I was with the Sag, Cancer moon last night and he is so friggin perfect. He reads my soul. He knew from the second he made eye contact that
1.) there was another male in the picture
2.) shit aint going good with said male
then he proceeded, que tears, to tell me how beautiful i am and how perfect i was. then he dug out a ditch. Drill Master. we later went ice cream.
he's so perfect.click to expand

Posted by Weedsctfu
banging, boning, hauling my ashes, getting the turtle muddy, reaming, humping, drilling, shagging, the horizontal hula, train in a tunnel, snake in the grass, stabbing the frog, squeaking the bedsprings, taking the beef bus to tuna town .


Posted by Twodrinkminimumhe's batting around 1000.
DMV I love you 😆
But why can't more men understand that all we want is you to tell us we're pretty, fuck us like crazy and take us to get ice cream?
The world would be such a perfect place.



Posted by wecarealotThis is why you put excitement/adventure in a relationship and not a person.
I feel like searching for excitement/adventure in people (whether through sex or just hanging out) never works because people will inevitably become "boring." Not through any fault of their own; it's just that no one exists just to entertain one person or a group of people--even actual entertainers get boring after a while.


Posted by busyeyes88I does and you best described the eternal struggle between Sag and Taurus. My mom's a bull and I love her tPosted by beautifulsoul74I do relate to sag alot in that I am a 66 fire horse loosely translated as a Gemini in western astrology.. It's the 'liberalness' and the 'conservativeness' with regards to relationships which is the clash between my taurus sun and sag sun... Sag in another other form I can cope with as it is similar to my nature. I hope this makes sense to you!! LolPosted by busyeyes88Ah I see 🙂. It appears you have either a lesson to learn from us or we're part of your soul family...souls that travel with you through past and current lifetimes. Usually "bad" experiences are really no different than anything else. They teach you a new lesson or reinforce an old one. Thank you for the compliments! You're definitely level headed yourself from I can tell. It's the only way you can stay sane 😛Posted by beautifulsoul74I have had a very bad life lesson because of a sag and my sister is a sag, and the taurus I was platonic friends with has a sag moon and two other placements in sag, so curiosity I guess. Plus I have been reading your posts for a over a year or so and you seem so level headed. Then when I found out we shared the same moon... Well what can I say?!! Lol lol It goes without saying really!! Lol lol lol _ ?Posted by busyeyes88Aww thank you...cheers to understanding 😉! It has it's challenges but definitely a good placement lol. So what brings you 'round these here parts?Posted by beautifulsoul74B74. I notice you have a Leo moon.. I defo like you now!! I too have a Leo moon 😉 lol lol lol You are defo growing on me!! Lol lol!!!!!!!!!Posted by DMV😉
Give her time Beautiful Soul, give her timeclick to expand

Posted by BlackNovathe sweetest of men get the furthest with me.Posted by TwodrinkminimumYou're joking, right?
DMV I love you 😆
But why can't more men understand that all we want is you to tell us we're pretty, fuck us like crazy and take us to get ice cream?
The world would be such a perfect place.
Why? Because women are never this simple.
One week you want us to be sweet, caring, supportive and to take control, then you want us to give you your space and freedom because you are an independent and strong modern career women.
You desire men who are "capable" of supporting you financially and emotionally for the long haul, but you also act like... "hey, I can go it on my own"
All the while you are playing these romantic/erotic movies in your headspace.
It's like walking a tight rope trying to figure out what makes women happy.click to expand

Posted by starlovernaw. Jordan didnt quit shooting and neither am iPosted by DMVAaahhhh bless you
I'd like to break this cycle that I have. I do this every time. Pursue, get bored, leave. Rinse n repeat.
Maybe you need to go cold turkey again for a while?click to expand

Posted by WeedsI can relate. Im a 5th house personality. People come to me looking for fun and excitement.Posted by wecarealotThis is why you put excitement/adventure in a relationship and not a person.
I feel like searching for excitement/adventure in people (whether through sex or just hanging out) never works because people will inevitably become "boring." Not through any fault of their own; it's just that no one exists just to entertain one person or a group of people--even actual entertainers get boring after a while.click to expand



Posted by vegansagittariusI did mention if he wanted to do other things and if he wanted to get to know me but he never gave me an answer. He goes mute. After a year this is unacceptable. Yes or no will suffice.
We tend to get bored with people easily! Was it much more interesting back during the chase? For me, I get bored with anyone after I know they're into me as well. Hell I even got bored with a Sag guy. With both parties Sag, does one eventually get bored with the other? But to fight the boredom, why not go somewhere adventurous for dates?

Posted by vegansagittarius
@beautifuldiaster
Not really! The guy I am seeing right now is a Sag sun and cancer moon. He's really sweet but stingy.
How old is he?
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