Do u find that people can't handle your honesty...

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Posted by size zero superhero
^LOL I feel like most Sags I know IRL would say something more to the effect of "____ doesn't like hearing the real deal 'cause they're a deluded whiner!" ...which is only accurate about half the time. LOL.



Lol...exactly! The other half of the time is spent peddling BS to the masses! *cracks obligatory "yeah right" smirk most Sags are known for* I think the Emperor's New Clothes story is tailor made for us because we would be the one sign to yell out "hey can't you fools see he's naked?!"
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Posted by size zero superhero
Yep(Sagittarius moon, stellium).

For what it's worth, I do not conflate honesty with slander or berating others & consider myself fairly polite overall. The fact I'm a Libra doesn't mitigate my potential for offending thin-skinned folks--without intending to.

The truth of the matter is; most people are aware when they are at fault and know the error of their way.
Nevertheless, some cannot handle it gracefully if someone else is either sufficiently irritated, justifiably concerned or 'bold' enough to address said issue in a straightforward(non-insulting)tone.

Perhaps certain people can't fathom others noticing something's up, or how somebody else got the nerve to question their conduct/actions thus becoming butthurt & blowing the whole situation out of proportion. Or, in the rare instance where reality was lost on them, hearing another perspective comes as a major shock so they must process it before rational thinking & corrective measures are considered.

Though we are able to control our words & how we express them, others' responses are the unknown variable. I avoid saying anything I'd be insulted by if the shoe were on the other foot, and do not make unwarranted personal attacks, however...there's still no guarantee my message will be received as it was intended.






I'm also a sag moon. My mother drives me nuts. I usually just ignore her but she pushed me too far and I didn't just brush off her bad behavior like I usually do and confronted her head on. She couldn't handle it and tried to come up with reasons as to why I was being so mean to her.
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@VenusStar: I've had a few of those confrontations with my mom with the exact approach. As a Sag sun, I can say its just us. Although we can be blunt, usually we tolerate a lot until we...well snap. Woah unto those who are around for they will get an unwanted dose of the truth...and not the truth as we see it. I knew I proved my point because while I stayed calm she goes into one of those rages Tauruses are known for lol.
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My mother is a Pisces 2 and would knock me to the floor pick me back up and knock me to the floor again if I ever called her out or got out of line.

I dont know what ur relationship is with ur mom, but my mom dont play that. Instead of calling my mother out I try to see where she is coming from, she is damn near all water. She has to have a reason.

Sometimes as truth bearers we need to learn how to deliver the truth.

But we must also respect our elders as wrong as they may be.

Off my soapbox.
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@DMV: our generation is different. Yes we should honor our parents but that honor is also to be returned to us. Honor does not mean condoning bad behavior especially when said behavior effects our lives as well. Being a parent or elder doesn't give you blanket immunity for wrong doing.



yeah naw, that shit dont fly in my household. if you dont like how your mama talks or treats you, you can move out. that goes for anybody. kids are crazy disrespectful these days. i blame the internet.

no need to go disrespecting her, that woman gave birth to you. since when does that give anyone of her kids to talk to her a certain kind of way. my mom would knock me into the space between the washer and dryer. God help me if my grandmother found out.

my pisces mom goes for the juglar at times but still i wont call her out on it. if i didnt like how she talked walked ate chicken, i left and now live under my own roof.

my point is, learn how to deliver the truth.
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I moved out when I was 18 and have pretty much been in my own since.

I'm sorry but if telling her how not to intrude on my life and how her avoiding her problems causes problems for everybody...then I'm guess I am. Honestly, there only so much spin you can put on the truth and eventually its time to stop sugar coating things. I don't talk to her any kinda way, but since they've made me the head of the house hold, that means that I'm going to speak my mind on certain matters.
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I moved out when I was 18 and have pretty much been in my own since.

I'm sorry but if telling her how not to intrude on my life and how her avoiding her problems causes problems for everybody...then I'm guess I am. Honestly, there only so much spin you can put on the truth and eventually its time to stop sugar coating things. I don't talk to her any kinda way, but since they've made me the head of the house hold, that means that I'm going to speak my mind on certain matters.



true, if they put you in the position...thats what theyre looking for from you
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I moved out when I was 18 and have pretty much been in my own since.

I'm sorry but if telling her how not to intrude on my life and how her avoiding her problems causes problems for everybody...then I'm guess I am. Honestly, there only so much spin you can put on the truth and eventually its time to stop sugar coating things. I don't talk to her any kinda way, but since they've made me the head of the house hold, that means that I'm going to speak my mind on certain matters.



true, if they put you in the position...thats what theyre looking for from you
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True. But what's annoying is that we're arguing over stuff that they taught me not to do and they only end up doing what I told then they should do after trying it "their way" and then there's no "you were right" and I have to fix the problem after the fact. I don't have time for that lol.
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I like the Sag honesty. You know what you get with a Sag. Even though mine is confusing the hell out of me right now with his disappearing acts. I like him, though. I really like him. And that is not an easy admission to make, because I don't want to like him. But when he suggested (or I do - I don't remember how we got on the subject) of us writing a book together, I was surprised when he suddenly started giving me orders on what I needed to do. He told me this first part is very boring, mind-numbing, but necessary, and I needed to have it done by such and such date. And then he started mailing me books for us to read together as research on the book. *sigh* Okay, Sag honesty was the subject. It's refreshing!