He didn't want a relationship... Ok WTF?!

So I talked to the sag's friend who I met at his party. Apparently when he asked the sag about me he told him he didn't want a relationship. I wasn't upset at first, but then after we talked about it for a lil bit and he said stuff like he couldn't believe he played games with me and maybe he'll realize how awesome you are..I started to get upset. And now I'm pissed. I'm trying to decide how I'm going to react to this when I see him next. I'm thinking maybe ignoring him... or total indifference..

Thoughts?

Sorry this is just really pissing me off because he was all in and then goes and tells his friend he didn't want a relationship with me. WTF?!

UGH! Really?

Well even if it wasn't true no one wants to hear about how someone doesn't want to be with them! Like wtf?

See ugh boys are so mean!

I would keep that nugget of info to myself and watch him carefully. BTW What kind of guy is his friend? Would he lie to try to swoop in and have youfor himself?

And that does suck. Sorry 😢

sorry to hear that Happy...., but was he really all in?? i think your saggi's behavior kinda hinted at that right? he acts like alot of sag people or most men when the conquest is over...space and time. some saggis are passionate and full throttle in the beginning, but once we get what we want, were on to the next shiny red ball. thats why i told you to be prepared that you and him may want different things...

remember his behavior?! he wasnt calling, was short with you, was distant, created space. he was doing all the stuff that men do when theyve moved on.

i know your going to hate what im going to say, but maybe there is a disconnect between you and the guys you date. you may feel as though their actions imply that they want a relationship. in fact, you use the "relationship" word very early on, sometimes days after. when in fact, these really arent relationships. but your perceive the behavior to be relationship like, only to be disappointed and upset with the men when they say that dont want one. now, you feel as though youve been tricked in some way. but, you havent been tricked. your still learning or getting the cues mixed up.

we share alot of placements, so its interesting that you have a different outlook on relationships that i do.

i would take the saggi's friends words with a grain of salt, but i would take the saggis behavior toward you as proof positive.

Posted by MzSagittarius
I say, "TO HELL WITH THEM BOTH! Go find you a happy-go-lucky lion! They're the best match for a Saggi anyways! 😄"

leos are way too controlling for me

word lol

Posted by DMV
sorry to hear that Happy...., but was he really all in?? i think your saggi's behavior kinda hinted at that right? he acts like alot of sag people or most men when the conquest is over...space and time. some saggis are passionate and full throttle in the beginning, but once we get what we want, were on to the next shiny red ball. thats why i told you to be prepared that you and him may want different things...

remember his behavior?! he wasnt calling, was short with you, was distant, created space. he was doing all the stuff that men do when theyve moved on.

i know your going to hate what im going to say, but maybe there is a disconnect between you and the guys you date. you may feel as though their actions imply that they want a relationship. in fact, you use the "relationship" word very early on, sometimes days after. when in fact, these really arent relationships. but your perceive the behavior to be relationship like, only to be disappointed and upset with the men when they say that dont want one. now, you feel as though youve been tricked in some way. but, you havent been tricked. your still learning or getting the cues mixed up.

we share alot of placements, so its interesting that you have a different outlook on relationships that i do.

i would take the saggi's friends words with a grain of salt, but i would take the saggis behavior toward you as proof positive.

Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Slow down....Apparently this friend has his own motives, men typically stand mute about these kind of issues as to not create conflict and drama, so typically out of loyalty he'll say nothing, the fact this guy is spilling his guts let's me know his level of loyalty and devotion towards his friend is next to none and possibly this guy is more of an acquaintance instead of a good friend.

You have to err on the side of caution when you deal with a guys male friends b/c sometimes these so called friends try to sleep with said girlfriend, sometimes these guys play head games with one another were they are attempting to steal one another's love interest, for instance your sag may have boasted how great you are in and out of bed (assuming you've already had sex) and that could motivate him to throw a bit of hater-ade his way and this seems to be what this guy is attempting to do. Men can be bitches too.

Nothing to be mad about b/c this particular friend clearly is a douchebag and trying to get into your panties....

Posted by DMV
sorry to hear that Happy...., but was he really all in?? i think your saggi's behavior kinda hinted at that right? he acts like alot of sag people or most men when the conquest is over...space and time. some saggis are passionate and full throttle in the beginning, but once we get what we want, were on to the next shiny red ball. thats why i told you to be prepared that you and him may want different things...

remember his behavior?! he wasnt calling, was short with you, was distant, created space. he was doing all the stuff that men do when theyve moved on.

i know your going to hate what im going to say, but maybe there is a disconnect between you and the guys you date. you may feel as though their actions imply that they want a relationship. in fact, you use the "relationship" word very early on, sometimes days after. when in fact, these really arent relationships. but your perceive the behavior to be relationship like, only to be disappointed and upset with the men when they say that dont want one. now, you feel as though youve been tricked in some way. but, you havent been tricked. your still learning or getting the cues mixed up.

we share alot of placements, so its interesting that you have a different outlook on relationships that i do.

i would take the saggi's friends words with a grain of salt, but i would take the saggis behavior toward you as proof positive.

+1

What she said....

Actually I did say he's a bitch LOL...I didn't miss it

Posted by MzSagittarius
This thread just goes to show that women are not the only drama-filled, manipulative ones. Men are just more 'discreet' about it.

so true

Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by tiki33
Actually I did say he's a bitch LOL...I didn't miss it

Ah my bad.🙂 Well it gave me the opportunity to stick it to the metros 🙂

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LOL

I take it you don't like metro's too much

Posted by Mebs
I would keep that nugget of info to myself and watch him carefully. BTW What kind of guy is his friend? Would he lie to try to swoop in and have youfor himself?

His friend has a gf so he's not trying to date me. We both thought it could be possible that the sag would think he was doing that, but not because he thought he was lying. When I told the sag I had talked to his friend he asked "why are you talking to him. I mean he's a cool guy, but he's (insert small insult here)." My first thought was the sag didn't want me to find out something... But if that was the case his friend would have told me the secret already. That and the insult made it clear that he felt slightly threatened.

I told the sag that I had never given him any indication that I wanted a relationship and that he shouldn't assume... and he comes back with saying that his friends a liar and that he hadn't said that. I texted the friend and asked him if those were his exact words. I think the wording probably was a little different...I don't see why the sag would have any reason to hide that he didn't want a relationship. He would have owned up to it. Though I'm a bit skeptical.

We left on a happier note. I just don't feel like dealing with this anymore, but I needed to confront him about that last bit if I was going to put the matter to rest.

Posted by MzSagittarius
I say, "TO HELL WITH THEM BOTH! Go find you a happy-go-lucky lion! They're the best match for a Saggi anyways! 😄"

I do love them lions and they are the sign I am the most compatible with. I don't know any leos right now that I'd date tho >.

Posted by DMV
sorry to hear that Happy...., but was he really all in?? i think your saggi's behavior kinda hinted at that right? he acts like alot of sag people or most men when the conquest is over...space and time. some saggis are passionate and full throttle in the beginning, but once we get what we want, were on to the next shiny red ball. thats why i told you to be prepared that you and him may want different things...

remember his behavior?! he wasnt calling, was short with you, was distant, created space. he was doing all the stuff that men do when theyve moved on.

i know your going to hate what im going to say, but maybe there is a disconnect between you and the guys you date. you may feel as though their actions imply that they want a relationship. in fact, you use the "relationship" word very early on, sometimes days after. when in fact, these really arent relationships. but your perceive the behavior to be relationship like, only to be disappointed and upset with the men when they say that dont want one. now, you feel as though youve been tricked in some way. but, you havent been tricked. your still learning or getting the cues mixed up.

we share alot of placements, so its interesting that you have a different outlook on relationships that i do.

i would take the saggi's friends words with a grain of salt, but i would take the saggis behavior toward you as proof positive.

Yeah the behavior would normally be easy to read, but at the time he was also dealing with family stuff and he told me he was so I excused it as that being the only reason. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Oh well.

I actually never use the relationship word. If it's brought up it's always the guy who brings it up first. But yes I do put expectations on people. The scorpio I didn't put much expectation on so I was able to get over him easily.

The cues aren't too hard to read, though emotions don't help. In this case it was because other things were going on as well.

Yes, I've learned from this that I shouldn't trust words, but watch body language to get a clear answer.

Posted by Sagittarius89


Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

Posted by tiki33
Slow down....Apparently this friend has his own motives, men typically stand mute about these kind of issues as to not create conflict and drama, so typically out of loyalty he'll say nothing, the fact this guy is spilling his guts let's me know his level of loyalty and devotion towards his friend is next to none and possibly this guy is more of an acquaintance instead of a good friend.

You have to err on the side of caution when you deal with a guys male friends b/c sometimes these so called friends try to sleep with said girlfriend, sometimes these guys play head games with one another were they are attempting to steal one another's love interest, for instance your sag may have boasted how great you are in and out of bed (assuming you've already had sex) and that could motivate him to throw a bit of hater-ade his way and this seems to be what this guy is attempting to do. Men can be bitches too.

Nothing to be mad about b/c this particular friend clearly is a douchebag and trying to get into your panties....

He has a girlfriend. He's actually a really cool caring guy. A virgo

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by tiki33
Slow down....Apparently this friend has his own motives, men typically stand mute about these kind of issues as to not create conflict and drama, so typically out of loyalty he'll say nothing, the fact this guy is spilling his guts let's me know his level of loyalty and devotion towards his friend is next to none and possibly this guy is more of an acquaintance instead of a good friend.

You have to err on the side of caution when you deal with a guys male friends b/c sometimes these so called friends try to sleep with said girlfriend, sometimes these guys play head games with one another were they are attempting to steal one another's love interest, for instance your sag may have boasted how great you are in and out of bed (assuming you've already had sex) and that could motivate him to throw a bit of hater-ade his way and this seems to be what this guy is attempting to do. Men can be bitches too.

Nothing to be mad about b/c this particular friend clearly is a douchebag and trying to get into your panties....

He has a girlfriend. He's actually a really cool caring guy. A virgo

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Happy you are either too young or too naive or both when it comes to being able to assess a persons motives and personality properly...If your girl friend went to your boyfriend and told her all of that would you call her a friend? Would you call her cool and caring?

Friends don't do that to one another so he's not really all that caring or cool, cool people don't go behind his boy/girl friend back and expose something that heavy.

He has a girlfriend but his motive was getting into your panties...I understand you can't see that maybe for the lack of life experience but none of that was cool what he did...Only bitches and drama queens stir up that kind of conflict amongst friends.

Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by tiki33

Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by tiki33
Actually I did say he's a bitch LOL...I didn't miss it

Ah my bad.🙂 Well it gave me the opportunity to stick it to the metros 🙂

LOL

I take it you don't like metro's too much

Well I think they have a lot to answer for if the truth be known.
I think they've given women as a whole (and I don't want to generalise too much for a change) false expectations from their significant other and that may encompass anything from:

Pretending to like Dostoevsky that much
Having as many feelings or more than a woman
Talking for hours on the phone (seriously 1/2- 1 hour is a long time surely ?)
Animal abuse (e.g: the roadkill on their heads)
Crying like Usher does in his videos (stubbing ones toe on things around the house doesn't count as crying, it really fooking hurts 😛)
Being complex ( think of a child, it's more endless wonder of the simple things than anything that cranium crunching)
Text messaging (you might get a sentence, you might get 5 pages, it's the same thing: think/type/send !)
I could go on.🙂

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LOL you must go on...This is funny and interesting with a twist of truth...real talk

Posted by tiki33


Happy you are either too young or too naive or both when it comes to being able to assess a persons motives and personality properly...If your girl friend went to your boyfriend and told her all of that would you call her a friend? Would you call her cool and caring?

Friends don't do that to one another so he's not really all that caring or cool, cool people don't go behind his boy/girl friend back and expose something that heavy.

He has a girlfriend but his motive was getting into your panties...I understand you can't see that maybe for the lack of life experience but none of that was cool what he did...Only bitches and drama queens stir up that kind of conflict amongst friends.

Not true at all. If my friends boyfriend was my friend as well and he came to me and was very sad and wanted to know things I would let him know. I like people to know the truth and so do virgos...or at least from what I've gathered from my sister's bf and this virgo guy.

Not everyone feels that spreading the truth is disloyalty. Perhaps if he was lying then I could see where he was being manipulative. But if that were the case he wouldn't be talking about his gf and making sure I didn't get the wrong idea. If I were to want to get into someone's pants I'd be more tactful.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see where he could possibly be getting into my pants..at all.

Posted by tiki33

Happy you are either too young or too naive or both when it comes to being able to assess a persons motives and personality properly...If your girl friend went to your boyfriend and told her all of that would you call her a friend? Would you call her cool and caring?

Yes I would. I actually like for the ones I've been dating to know my side of the story...and sometimes I'm too much of a jerk to give it to them so it's nice to have a person in the middle to talk to them. In fact I've had this happen before countless times.

Why are you so against others knowing the truth about what others say?

No you are drama lol....This guy wasn't his friend and you are too naive to see it, you also seem to not care about loyalty amongst your friends b/c not many women would take too kindly to her girl friend spilling her business to a boyfriend/love interest, a real true friend would console and empathize but never put something out there before getting consent to do it, a true friend would tell you to go to the source/person for the answers b/c that's between you and him, real friends wouldn't insert themselves in the middle of your drama unless there is a hidden motive....

It was none of his business to tell you anything, that's just messy on his part....Why would he insert himself in the middle of your mess unless he had some ulterior motive.

You don't know if this so called friend was lying or telling the truth? How do you know he wasn't just a fake out friend that was hating on this guy you like, men can be just as bitchy as women and jealous.

Growth...The word grow up... You can start by keeping other people out of your business and if you need to know the truth use your own instincts and pay attention to how a man treats you, if he treats you good he's into you and wants you to be in his life, if he's a jerk towards you, treats you half ass like some disposable doormat then he's not into you and that's your que to move on, you don't need a 3rd party to tell you the truth and if you do need a 3rd party to tell you the truth well as I stated earlier you don't know how to properly assess your relationships so you get confused and need help but the problem with that is you'll never know the persons true motives that's attempting to help you.

Did you really need someone to tell you the truth? Especially as DMV pointed out you don't really LISTEN to what's being said through a mans actions towards you. "remember his behavior?! he wasnt calling, was short with you, was distant, created space. he was doing all the stuff that men do when theyve moved on." DMV pointed out there is a disconnect between yourself and the men you choose to be with, maybe you should explore that more and figure out what it is about your behavior that pushes a man to move away from you once he's caught you.

DMV "i would take the saggi's friends words with a grain of salt, but i would take the saggis behavior toward you as proof positive."

And she's absolutely correct, had you taken his behavior as proof positive you would have never had to insert drama by adding a 3rd person (his friend) into the mix. Next time go directly to the person you have the issue with, less drama and it makes you appear less neurotic and look less like a needy loser over a man.

Posted by tiki33
No you are drama lol....This guy wasn't his friend and you are too naive to see it, you also seem to not care about loyalty amongst your friends b/c not many women would take too kindly to her girl friend spilling her business to a boyfriend/love interest, a real true friend would console and empathize but never put something out there before getting consent to do it, a true friend would tell you to go to the source/person for the answers b/c that's between you and him, real friends wouldn't insert themselves in the middle of your drama unless there is a hidden motive....

It was none of his business to tell you anything, that's just messy on his part....Why would he insert himself in the middle of your mess unless he had some ulterior motive.

You don't know if this so called friend was lying or telling the truth? How do you know he wasn't just a fake out friend that was hating on this guy you like, men can be just as bitchy as women and jealous.

Growth...The word grow up... You can start by keeping other people out of your business and if you need to know the truth use your own instincts and pay attention to how a man treats you, if he treats you good he's into you and wants you to be in his life, if he's a jerk towards you, treats you half ass like some disposable doormat then he's not into you and that's your que to move on, you don't need a 3rd party to tell you the truth and if you do need a 3rd party to tell you the truth well as I stated earlier you don't know how to properly assess your relationships so you get confused and need help but the problem with that is you'll never know the persons true motives that's attempting to help you.

Normally I agree with what you say, but I can't agree with this bit. Some would say I'm truthful to a fault. If someone is hurting and that little piece of truth is something they want to hear I will let them know. This is always how I've done it and I have never had anyone get mad at me for it.
Who knows, maybe I'm just good with getting away with stuff like that because people don't say anything after I tell them. If they did I'd take full responsibility for it tho.

You're right I don't know if he was lying or not, but I doubt someone who is going to be moving in 5 days is trying to get into my pants. I have received no indication that this is what he wants. Why can't you just accept that some peop

*people feel bad because they feel that the other person was wronged. He doesn't agree with how the sag handled it and I suppose that was his reasoning for sharing that little bit of info.

I didn't need a third party to tell me. I mentioned I was stressed about the guy and was going to leave it at that. Didn't even mention it was the guy I was talking about. And the virgo told me "yeah I asked how you were doing and he said he just didn't want a relationship." That's all he got from him and all he told me. It's not like him or I were wanting to talk about it, it just came up in passing. I'm glad he said it though because knowing that I was able to use it to move on from the sag and not wonder "what if". Drama or not, I needed that. And me and the sag left on a good note today so no harm done. We forgive and forget easily.

Happy that's drama...If you want to know something go to the source, you potentially started a huge mess between these 2 guys with your insecurities. Teenagers do this kind of mess with one another, I'm assuming you are not a kid/teenager but maybe you are I dunno. All I'm saying is stop including people in your drama, this is your life, your relationship and if something appears wrong well as an adult you go to the source to eliminate he said she said crap.

Take it for what it's worth or not at all, eventually how you behave will backfire on you...You got your answers but next time try understanding when a man is not into you and you won't have to go to someone else to tell you the truth or to confirm it.

Trust yourself more

Not saying it's not drama. It's just all how it fell into place. Didn't force anyone to tell me anything. If it feels right I will give info.

Thanks guys for helping me get another perspective on all this. Was just curious

Posted by happykitsune
So I talked to the sag's friend who I met at his party. Apparently when he asked the sag about me he told him he didn't want a relationship. I wasn't upset at first, but then after we talked about it for a lil bit and he said stuff like he couldn't believe he played games with me and maybe he'll realize how awesome you are..I started to get upset. And now I'm pissed. I'm trying to decide how I'm going to react to this when I see him next. I'm thinking maybe ignoring him... or total indifference..

Thoughts?

Sorry this is just really pissing me off because he was all in and then goes and tells his friend he didn't want a relationship with me. WTF?!

Damn that's messed up! Hope everything was verified and got
straighten out tho!!!

err on the side of caution....men are always trying to get in your pants.

Posted by tiki33
Slow down....Apparently this friend has his own motives, men typically stand mute about these kind of issues as to not create conflict and drama, so typically out of loyalty he'll say nothing, the fact this guy is spilling his guts let's me know his level of loyalty and devotion towards his friend is next to none and possibly this guy is more of an acquaintance instead of a good friend.

You have to err on the side of caution when you deal with a guys male friends b/c sometimes these so called friends try to sleep with said girlfriend, sometimes these guys play head games with one another were they are attempting to steal one another's love interest, for instance your sag may have boasted how great you are in and out of bed (assuming you've already had sex) and that could motivate him to throw a bit of hater-ade his way and this seems to be what this guy is attempting to do. Men can be bitches too.

Nothing to be mad about b/c this particular friend clearly is a douchebag and trying to get into your panties....

what she said...

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Mebs
I would keep that nugget of info to myself and watch him carefully. BTW What kind of guy is his friend? Would he lie to try to swoop in and have youfor himself?

His friend has a gf so he's not trying to date me. We both thought it could be possible that the sag would think he was doing that, but not because he thought he was lying. When I told the sag I had talked to his friend he asked "why are you talking to him. I mean he's a cool guy, but he's (insert small insult here)." My first thought was the sag didn't want me to find out something... But if that was the case his friend would have told me the secret already. That and the insult made it clear that he felt slightly threatened.

I told the sag that I had never given him any indication that I wanted a relationship and that he shouldn't assume... and he comes back with saying that his friends a liar and that he hadn't said that. I texted the friend and asked him if those were his exact words. I think the wording probably was a little different...I don't see why the sag would have any reason to hide that he didn't want a relationship. He would have owned up to it. Though I'm a bit skeptical.

We left on a happier note. I just don't feel like dealing with this anymore, but I needed to confront him about that last bit if I was going to put the matter to rest.

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the friend doesnt want to date you, he wants to screw you. nothing more.

you didnt give the sag a clear indication that you wanted a relationship, but your actions told him that you were getting attached. so he created time and space. he did what alot of men do.

the family thing was an excuse. he didnt want to be the bad guy and tell u that he wasnt interested. saggis dont like to get their hands dirty. he used it as an excuse in hopes that you would get bored and just say eff it. but u did the opposite. u rationalized his behavior and became obsessed. you and your friends had to stop u from texting him. u got attached.

when i first started having flings, i didnt see them as flings. i saw them as full blow relationships on day one. looking back i feel embarrassed because i was def not picking up on the cues. now i know the difference between fwb, friends, relationships, and friendships. i can pick up on the cues better.

i think in another blog, u had said that you and the sag were in a relationship. then i asked u about it and the other relationships with the scorps and u corrected yourself. it could be the expectations or simply a disconnect.

with the next guy, just relax and have a good time. dont get obsessed about his behavior and dont think of it as a relationship. if its the sex that adds to the confusion, dont have sex. casual sex may not be for you.

Posted by everevolvingepithet

Posted by DMV
err on the side of caution....men are always trying to get in your pants.

Only after we've been romanced and swept off our feet though.

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haha sure sure

Posted by everevolvingepithet
DMV, be a good little girl and go add something to my 'Metrosexuals' thread on the misc board, I think you may have some good comments to add.
Not saying you've been round the block a lot, I just get the impression you've had a lot of dealings with men.
🙂

ok, i gotta get dressed for f'n work but i will go read and try to comment.

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sagittarius89


Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

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It is but you know what don't beat yourself about it! You know what scorp said to me the other day. ( New one ) he was like "you know you shouldn't really always worry so much about who you date cause really how many people do you actually end up loving? " I was like ya you know it's true.

It'll be fine

Posted by DMV
err on the side of caution....men are always trying to get in your pants.

LMAO Hello +1 for DMV

You keep it real and that's awesome!

Another friend asked me about him today. Now this one I could see trying to get in my pants. However, what he said was true.

"He's not very good with his emotions." Not very good with confrontation either. Very upbeat and quick to anger, but does not do the other emotions well.

That actually eased me up a lot tho. I told the guy I wish he would have told me sooner, but he said something that made me feel better.
"You had a good time tho, right?" Most definitely, and I learned a lot about that type of person. But I don't like the idea of going in and out of stuff so I'm just going to have really good guy friends and then if something develops then it does. Hopefully my logical side doesn't get clouded by my emotions. Really hate how weak I get at that point of "falling."

Thanks to all who gave their advice. I will be praying a lot and hopefully feeling 100% better soon 🙂

@ DMV

I think the reason why we differ a lot, but still have the same signs is probably because of the way both of our lives were...how we were brought up and such. That and you have lived longer than I have. You have had way more experiences so they have shaped you to be who you are now. Maybe I'll be like that some day, maybe I wont. I think our rising signs are different as well.

Posted by happykitsune
@ DMV

I think the reason why we differ a lot, but still have the same signs is probably because of the way both of our lives were...how we were brought up and such. That and you have lived longer than I have. You have had way more experiences so they have shaped you to be who you are now. Maybe I'll be like that some day, maybe I wont. I think our rising signs are different as well.

i also think it may be our different mars signs as well.

moon in scorp with a mars in scorp is tough to handle...

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Posted by happykitsune
@ DMV

I think the reason why we differ a lot, but still have the same signs is probably because of the way both of our lives were...how we were brought up and such. That and you have lived longer than I have. You have had way more experiences so they have shaped you to be who you are now. Maybe I'll be like that some day, maybe I wont. I think our rising signs are different as well.

i also think it may be our different mars signs as well.

moon in scorp with a mars in scorp is tough to handle...

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Oh didn't realize your mars was different. Yours is virgo right?

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Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sagittarius89


Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

No offense to her, but she's still learning about men if she says this. If she thinks actions don't speak louder than words, she's got a LOT of learning to do. Guys always fuck up by letting their true intentions slip via actions.

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Yeah I agree. And by their brief facial expressions. Lately I've been taking what they say, and while I listen to it, I don't use it to figure out what I really wanna know.

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Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sagittarius89


Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

No offense to her, but she's still learning about men if she says this. If she thinks actions don't speak louder than words, she's got a LOT of learning to do. Guys always fuck up by letting their true intentions slip via actions.

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You have a lot of learning to do if you don't see people lie thru actions just as much as they lie thru words.

You must live an extremely sheltered life.

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Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

No offense to her, but she's still learning about men if she says this. If she thinks actions don't speak louder than words, she's got a LOT of learning to do. Guys always fuck up by letting their true intentions slip via actions.

You have a lot of learning to do if you don't see people lie thru actions just as much as they lie thru words.

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Hmm I can kinda agree with this but only because I know that sometimes when I'm shy or upset my actions decieve how I'm really feeling. Maybe that's a sag thing tho cus I'm sometimes in denial about how I really feel...or I convince myself that I feel another way

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Posted by Sagittarius89

Posted by amethyst2002

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sagittarius89


Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

No offense to her, but she's still learning about men if she says this. If she thinks actions don't speak louder than words, she's got a LOT of learning to do. Guys always fuck up by letting their true intentions slip via actions.

You have a lot of learning to do if you don't see people lie thru actions just as much as they lie thru words.

Hmm I can kinda agree with this but only because I know that sometimes when I'm shy or upset my actions decieve how I'm really feeling. Maybe that's a sag thing tho cus I'm sometimes in denial about how I really feel...or I convince myself that I feel another way

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Hmm I don't think either of you understand what I am saying lol

laymens terms

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Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sagittarius89

Posted by amethyst2002

Posted by happykitsune

Posted by Sagittarius89


Yea just to side this, don't let actions fool you either. People lie through those just as much as words... or a better way to put it they can be just as misleading.

The best way is to go about it mentally lol

Sheesh so confusing lol

No offense to her, but she's still learning about men if she says this. If she thinks actions don't speak louder than words, she's got a LOT of learning to do. Guys always fuck up by letting their true intentions slip via actions.

You have a lot of learning to do if you don't see people lie thru actions just as much as they lie thru words.

Hmm I can kinda agree with this but only because I know that sometimes when I'm shy or upset my actions decieve how I'm really feeling. Maybe that's a sag thing tho cus I'm sometimes in denial about how I really feel...or I convince myself that I feel another way

Hmm I don't think either of you understand what I am saying lol

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I guess not 😢 Yes, please laymen's terms

What is that? Lol

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Posted by Sagittarius89
What is that? Lol

And you call ME sheltered? Stfu kid. Seriously. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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It can be easy to lie to people. Many people can do that. Dr. House says, "everybody lies"!

Even though people lie, sometimes their actions can tell us otherwise. Sometimes, they don't realize it!

Sometimes, they tell us lies and they contract with one another...logically.

Listen and observe.

This.

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Wow you are really rude amethyst


What I am trying to say is people lie either way. When people say you can tell everything about a man from his actions that is such a crock of shit.


Don't judge people by their actions, or what their word, judge them by who they are.