Help! I'm confused about a male sag...

My question is how do I know if he's telling the truth?

My best friend is a male sag. We've been getting along famously for the last three and a half years, and I have very little complaints about him. He recently told me that he would like to have a romantic relationship with me, which did not hit me as a total surprize, (womanly instinct maybe?). I'm just a little confused about his behaviour, because he seems to tell me one thing and then does another, and since I've known him for a while, I know that he sometimes exaggerates things way past reality, so, although he is quite a charmer, I won't to believe everything that he says. I do know one thing to be true abot this situation... I do know that he has romantic feelings for me, and sometimes it seems that we can never get enough of each other, and it's okay, but he is dating another woman right now. He says that, if he gets the okay from me, he'll leave her alone immediately. You know, I want to be taken in by this, but my scorp. side is not allowing me to swallow it, because he persists in having a romantic relationship with her even after I told him that I would consider his proposal. He is also around telling everybody that we know that he wants to date me, but when he's with me, he's shy and reserved... almost! lol I wrote to him about it, and he never responds...

Can someone please tell me what is going on— Is this a game that sags play? Help?
I'm air with scorp rising.

Hi there -

I don't know if my experience(s) with Sag males will help you or not. Unfortunately, my reply is going to sound negative because my experiences have been.

I am a 33 year old Sag. When I was 20 years old, I was approached, charmed, wooed, chased like I had NEVER been chased before. I fell so deeply in love & lust with this guy (a Sag) that I can't tell you!! I thought it was the perfect relationship because I could be my funny Sag self with him, and still have the attraction thing going for us.

Well, he was a bit older than me (32 even though he told me he was 26!) but we began our courtship. I made him wait a year pretty much before we "did it" and I honestly think that was the main reason we stayed together that long.

Once we finally "did it" our relationship dwindled, almost like he was disappointed there was no challenge left. It was at that point that I found out (from other people & from his answering machine that he was dumb enough to listen to in front of me) that he had been out "conquesting" other women, pretty much the whole time.
Yuck.

The hard part came afterward, when I still wanted to be physical with him. We never got over our "chemistry" and I tried very much to be un-hurt & try & use him the way I felt he used me. This ended up making everything feel grosser to me. Try as I could, I couldn't do it and be true to myself. So, after an "on-again, off-again" span of 3 years, I completely got over him and boy if he didn't start up again, wanting to "conquest" me again...just because he couldn't have me!

This was my experience. I'm sure there are plenty of good males Saggies out there (my uncle's a pretty great guy!). And maybe you have a sweet Sag on your hands? However, the fact that he says he's willing to cut-loose his current girlfriend if you'll have him sounds pretty daunting to me. How do you know that you won't be replaced when his conquest has been satisfied?

I don't want to disrespect someone (your potential guy) I don't even know, but as someone who was burned by a Sag male at an early age, I never looked at them the same way. I have never met a Sag who wasn't charming as hell and had a wild look in their eye.

And, as a Sag, I have to say that I understand their need for variety in life and, more often than not, feel that the grass is always greener somewhere else I haven't been yet, etc.

(I have to also mention, last year I fell into a conversation with another Sag male at a friend's party...hit it off completely, chatted for hours. He asked if he could call me & I said yes. He called 2 weeks later, asking if I could go out that night before he left on a business trip. I was busy and said no, but told him to call me when he was back in town. Later that week, I heard all about he and his GIRLFRIEND & their trip! Can you believe it? I was sick to my stomach!!)

Back on track...
I think Sag males are TERRIFIC friends to have, and usually have lots themselves. You guys have been friends for quite a while so do consider how you will feel if you both hook-up and he pulls a fast one on you at some point. Is his friendship important enough at this point NOT to get involved romantically & run the risk? Or, do you want to give it a shot?

I hope this helps & I hope he's honorable if you proceed!

By the way, I am a Sag dating a Scorpio.
I can tell you that Sag's & Scorps can have lots of chemistry b/t them, but it usually comes down to a power struggle (boo!).
I know you're an air sign (which is great for Sag) but the Scorpio side of you will NEVER put up with a guy who doesn't take your heart and feelings seriously. And, your Scorp side will be driven crazy by his need for freedom.

To say it again, male Sag's are a bit notorious for being filanderers (unlike the Sag women!!).

Good luck : )
Keep me posted too!

well.. it seems that the games and the lies are continuing. When I want to give in to him, and give him a chance, he trys to pull a fast one that causes me to repel him 50 yards again. We fight alot- (needless to say... with that kind of behaviour- and who wouldn't be disturbed by this on and off behaviour. The other day I made a bid for a job, and invited him to come and see the proceedings. Well, he did come, and he brought his girlfriend with him. Now what am I supposed to think about that? I was enraged, but I did not let my emotions show... instead, I let them seethe inside me. I saw him again recently, and he spoke strongly of his affiliation with his girlfriend. At this point, I was more than ready to be done with him ... I will not stand for that. I think that is all together too much manipulative bulllshit for me too handle, because I know that next week he'll speak of something between the two of us again. I don't think so asit stands. He had an opportunity to be with me, and instead he tried to play games. Still, I have not let my emotions show, I am still cool, calm and collected. He is going to be real surprised soon, if he tries his dirty tricks again. I don't want to use him, but I think it's time that he gets some of what he's dishing...

I'm sorry to hear that it isn't more promising. He sounds like he's a real piece of work. You know, some people can evolve & change over time, but he sounds like such a fickle a** right now!! You should look out for yourself with this one. I would definitely stay away, although it sounds like you are possibly planning a little mind-f**k on his part?

Do keep me posted!
If he's as callous as he sounds, he should get a taste of what he's dishing out to you.

I hope you feel better.
Please take care & keep us posted!

Here it is...
Yesterday, I found out that he split up with his girlfriend two days ago... from my roommate.. imagine?! Alot of our friends seemed to know about the break except for me, and at a party that I attended the other night- someone even approached me about the happenings between the two of us. I'm thinking to myself, what happenings between the two of us? As usual, I kept it all in the bag and just smiled, and moved on to the next conversation piece. Just a while ago, I visited his place. He wasn't there, but his new roommate was...
I asked the roommate when he'd be back, and he said he didn't know... and wouldn't you know...just as I was turning to leave, he asked me right out of no where.. if my friend and I were dating now since the break up. I don't even know his new roommate!!! Can someone please tell me what the f*** is going on here. Does everyone in the world know what's going on except me—
My present roommate told me today that he was talking around about us, as if he going to make some big move, or something, and as usual I knew nothing about it. If he's wanted to have a relationship with me, why is he telling everyone but me, and why the games— This guy is making me laugh now. It's just becoming entertaining to me now.
I'd ask him what's going on, but he doesn't talk to me... HA!

lol...=)

Okay... I don't seem to be able to trust him very much I was told... and to that- I say... all with good reason.

I'm done now. That was the last straw. To him... it's off with you now.
shew

He's all over the place!

I'm sure he'll be in touch soon enough. And, when he is, there's nothing wrong with saying: "yeah...I did like you until you started acting like a nut bag! I'm not sure I'd want to start a relationship that already has issues"...or something like that.

In other words, rather than playing it cool & keeping it to yourself, let him know that he scared you off what was once a consideration with you.

See what he says! That way you're being honest AND making him accountable.

Good luck : )

I decided to fly far away for a while. Just so that I could chill out.

I'm unsure whether I still like him as a person- especially after the drama he created- probably just for the fun of it too.

I think that the worst thing that could happen to him right now, in reference to us, is for me to not support his dreams. You see, he is my "best friend". Usually, if he thinks that I'm not supporting him, or providing enough of my airy energy for him as a spring board, he becomes quite irritated, and then he wonders if something is wrong. I have to cut off his fire's fuel for him to even notice I'm frustrated with him. He tries to keep all uncomfortable issues under rug swept. So be it. I hate doing it, but if that is what it takes then... it's gonna happen.]

...can't deal with him right now. When I get back I'll talk to him, like you suggested, and I'll keep you posted as to what happens as a result.

I think that u should just cut the chain's all togeather. I am with a Sag and he is sweet and charming and loving. He has given me the kindness and love that I deserve. I am a Scorpio and our signs are not supposed to be compatible but we are. He has not told me one thing and then done another, he has not lied nor cheated. I just feel that in your situation- I would let it go. When he wants to be serious he will come around. Let him come to you, dont worry about him or what he is doing he will know what he is missing soon.

MM All ~

Just a note ~ it's not just the "sun" sign that's incompatible or compatible ~ it's the whole sheebang!! lol....the rising, the moon, the nodes.... ~ so those that seem to "think" they shouldn't be, but seem to be against all the odds ~ your sun's may NOT be compatible, but something in both of your charts is lining up "just right" for your relationships to work as beautifully as they are ~

And of course ~ as with any relationship ~ you have to talk, talk and then talk some more ~ to air your issues & get beyond the trivial BS....😉

~MP & BB~
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