very confused about sag. man

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This is a long post, but I hope you can help me out with what all this means.

The Sag man, who's one of my best friend's friend, and I met in September, but only had a short conversation. After, we went as a big group to a music festival on Halloween of last year. We finally talked and everything just clicked. After that weekend, he texted me and we would text everyday and talked on the phone for hours on end. In November, we celebrated my birthday and everything was still normal. It wasn't until December when things started getting strange. He was moving back home to enroll back to school and that meant we were going to be closer to each other. I thought at first that we would be able to hang out more often, but that never happened. When he moved back, school started right away. We both got busy with work and school and I felt a little distance from him. We didn't talk or text as much and it got to the point with complete silence. We then went out to celebrate in December for one of our mutual friend's birthday and later that night I pulled him aside to see what was going on and why the sudden silence. He told me that he was busy with school and that he was scared of me because "I can destroy him if I choose too." I told him I understand that he's busy and hope that we can still be friends- he also agreed on being friends as well. I didn't hear anything from the rest of the month and in January, I texted him happy new years and we had a short conversation, but I left it at that. It's now March and I still haven't heard anything from him.

I know it sounds obvious, but everyone sees that when I'm around, he becomes this totally different person. Before he would always joke around and be silly with or without me there, but now, if I'm around him, he becomes stone cold and completely tries to ignore me.

What does this all mean? My birthday is Nov. 13th and his Nov. 24th.
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"I can destroy him if I choose too."

What a strange response.
Is he such a big coward? does he have own money to study? maybe he has fear that he loses scholarship if love affairs go wrong and is low energy for exams?

maybe he has scorpio parts in his chart and is involved in power struggle with you?

maybe he has Virgo||Cap parts and thinks first graduatig and working then love affairs?

maybe he is talking to another girl. too many offers in the Age of Internet & cellular phones.

"and hope that we can still be friends"
Isn't this often a talk to suicide the connection?
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When I read all these similar threads, I can only suggest that you girls should not waste your heart and time on "heavily texting".

Softly force face to face meetings. Don't be responsive to texts and fb stuff. Let him smell your fat.
We are animals. Make sure the CD of his brain cells gets burned by your face, smell, voice, laughs, flaws etc.

Don't let him have only an imagination of you.

We can substitute imaginations with any other abstract distraction. Movies. more fb sh.t. etc.
But burned memory is something else.

Next time you know a guy, burn him. You are Scorp. You can do it. Other girls are wishywashy.
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Scorpio women are sometimes a little intense for Sagittarius men. It's not cowardice, really. Sagittarians don't want to get "dirty" with intense emotional stuff, they like to keep it secrete. Scorpio women are powerful and intimidating creature, no offence meant 🙂 But this exactly what some Sagittarians get drawn to because they find it intriguing. Others might try to get as far as away because it seems to them as a threat to their freedom. Maybe he liked the way you two clicked, and doesn't want it to grow anymore. That can be a reason for him trying to get some space from you.

About being totally silent around you. It's how we try to mask our feelings and emotions. As a Sagittarius I can't fake my feelings for long. At a point I have to flip the switch of my emotions. If I want to ignore a girl I like, I would entirely deny to acknowledge her presence.

I am saying this from the experience of relationship with a wonderful Scorpio girl. Although we are not together anymore these things still apply. I know it's nothing romantic between you two, but then again, there is no such thing as Sagittarian romance. We start to like or hate someone, then we decide to actually like or hate someone. There is nothing in between. If you decide to get a man you can build from scratch, a Sagittarius will do. It's somewhat similar to what @DwellingOnMove said, burning your image in his mind. But don't do that if you want to leave him at some point. The intensity of a Scoprio-Sagittarius relationship or friendship might leave him broken if you decide to abandon him.
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Posted by scorpiogal
This is a long post, but I hope you can help me out with what all this means.

The Sag man, who's one of my best friend's friend, and I met in September, but only had a short conversation. After, we went as a big group to a music festival on Halloween of last year. We finally talked and everything just clicked. After that weekend, he texted me and we would text everyday and talked on the phone for hours on end. In November, we celebrated my birthday and everything was still normal. It wasn't until December when things started getting strange. He was moving back home to enroll back to school and that meant we were going to be closer to each other. I thought at first that we would be able to hang out more often, but that never happened. When he moved back, school started right away. We both got busy with work and school and I felt a little distance from him. We didn't talk or text as much and it got to the point with complete silence. We then went out to celebrate in December for one of our mutual friend's birthday and later that night I pulled him aside to see what was going on and why the sudden silence. He told me that he was busy with school and that he was scared of me because "I can destroy him if I choose too." I told him I understand that he's busy and hope that we can still be friends- he also agreed on being friends as well. I didn't hear anything from the rest of the month and in January, I texted him happy new years and we had a short conversation, but I left it at that. It's now March and I still haven't heard anything from him.

I know it sounds obvious, but everyone sees that when I'm around, he becomes this totally different person. Before he would always joke around and be silly with or without me there, but now, if I'm around him, he becomes stone cold and completely tries to ignore me.

What does this all mean? My birthday is Nov. 13th and his Nov. 24th.



Believe him when he says hes busy with school. Saggis can be ultra focused when we choose to be. Also, college is a time when some guys like to sow their oats.
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i dont really see hows hes a coward.



"...he was scared of me because "I can destroy him if I choose too." "

emotionally scared, I meant, because of this.. like not willing to take the leap because he's scared to get hurt.
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im still fail to see that connection. Sounds like his priorities just changed and hes focused on the books. I think that makes him intuitive/smart and definitely not emotionally scared/coward. Knows when to hold, knows when to fold.

Saggis are pretty observant and hes probably seen how the OP gets down and her treatment of others. im not implying anything cause i dont know her, but he surely is.

If he were emotionally scared, there would be a helluva lot of back and forth on his part. tip toeing on the line. OP didnt say anything about that. In fact, she had to pull him to the side.
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Before he would always joke around and be silly with or without me there, but now, if I'm around him, he becomes stone cold and completely tries to ignore me.

Unfortunately, this is how some saggis act once weve moved on. We just try to ignore it and hope it goes away on its own. we can be evasive.

Ive done this.

I know its stone cold, but i dont want to lead anyone on, nor do i want to have the uncomfortable conversation. So if a guy does call me, i may make small talk and give some lame excuse. hoping, praying, wishing, he just accepts it and stops calling. i get a feeling of relief when they say exactly what the OP did, "I told him I understand that he's busy and hope that we can still be friends." I will agree and that will be the end of it as far as im concerned.

things get weird when the guy doesnt really that the hint.

take the hint OP.
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Before he would always joke around and be silly with or without me there, but now, if I'm around him, he becomes stone cold and completely tries to ignore me.

Unfortunately, this is how some saggis act once weve moved on. We just try to ignore it and hope it goes away on its own. we can be evasive.




I'm not a Sag, but I've certainly done this many, many, times as a teenager/in my early twenties - it is kinda cowardly, no? To just avoid and not confront?

Like, I can admit, the reason I did the same thing was because I was scared.. scared to hurt the other person, scared they'd turn out to be a psycho, etc.
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i think we should just agree to disagree that we have different definitions of what makes one a coward.
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Posted by DwellingOnMove
"My birthday is Nov. 13th and his Nov. 24th."

this is not enough. also a lazy move.

Go to http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal<BR> insert as much information as you know about you both. And copy paste the table content here.

Generally 24th November is on the cusp to Scorpio. So he has some Scorpio traits. => power fight.



Sorry, I wrote this up in the middle of the night because it was bugging me so I didn't think of posting up our charts.

But here it is;

MINE IS:
Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Leo
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Sag
Mars: Libra

HIS IS:
Sun: Sag
Moon: Virgo
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Scorpio
Mars: Aquarius
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Posted by mnzr
Scorpio women are sometimes a little intense for Sagittarius men. It's not cowardice, really. Sagittarians don't want to get "dirty" with intense emotional stuff, they like to keep it secrete. Scorpio women are powerful and intimidating creature, no offence meant 🙂 But this exactly what some Sagittarians get drawn to because they find it intriguing. Others might try to get as far as away because it seems to them as a threat to their freedom. Maybe he liked the way you two clicked, and doesn't want it to grow anymore. That can be a reason for him trying to get some space from you.

About being totally silent around you. It's how we try to mask our feelings and emotions. As a Sagittarius I can't fake my feelings for long. At a point I have to flip the switch of my emotions. If I want to ignore a girl I like, I would entirely deny to acknowledge her presence.

I am saying this from the experience of relationship with a wonderful Scorpio girl. Although we are not together anymore these things still apply. I know it's nothing romantic between you two, but then again, there is no such thing as Sagittarian romance. We start to like or hate someone, then we decide to actually like or hate someone. There is nothing in between. If you decide to get a man you can build from scratch, a Sagittarius will do. It's somewhat similar to what @DwellingOnMove said, burning your image in his mind. But don't do that if you want to leave him at some point. The intensity of a Scoprio-Sagittarius relationship or friendship might leave him broken if you decide to abandon him.



No offense taken(:

We're going to a music festival together next month, how do you think I should approach him? Do you think I should just ignore him all together? Because usually when we hang out as a group, we don't really say much to each other. I just want him to be normal with me- like talk as friends.
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Posted by YellowSubmarine
Yeah, this all sounds very familiar.. my Sag ex was the same, but our timeline was more drawn out.

Basically, once we hit the 6.5-7 month mark, he shut down emotionally. It was ridiculously confusing, and after about a month the situation was making me feel bad about myself, which was when I knew it needed to end.

Anyway, your guy sounds like he may have Venus in Scorpio as well.. you might want to look that up, along with his moon sign.

Yes, he's a coward - so was my ex, but no matter how much you (or I) try to break through those walls and get him to trust, it just won't happen until he internally decides to do so. These very same cowards make the most loyal partners once they trust you.

My advice: leave him alone, and if he truly cares for you, he won't let you slip away entirely. Sag's make excellent friends, even after a break up (assuming the break up wasn't messy or hurtful), but don't hang onto any hope because generally speaking, if a guy wants something, he'll find a way to get it (esp. a Sag). Be cool, be friendly, and above all, be there consistently - it takes times, but Sag's appreciate stability in loyalty.. this is your only bet for having him in your life, and thus keeping the door slightly open for perhaps something to occur in the future.

If you want to talk to him, go for it, but keep it light and casual - don't refer to your relationship at all. If he wants to be with you romantically, he will find a way to bring it up and/or do something about it.



thanks for your response! you are so right, he does have a corpio in venus! this is our charts

MINE IS:
Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Leo
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Sag
Mars: Libra

HIS IS:
Sun: Sag
Moon: Virgo
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Scorpio
Mars: Aquarius

How did you make him trust you though? I've left him alone and been really patient, but I just don't understand how I can stay consistent with someone that is not communicating with me.
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Posted by DwellingOnMove
"I can destroy him if I choose too." ...

maybe he has scorpio parts in his chart and is involved in power struggle with you?

maybe he has Virgo||Cap parts and thinks first graduatig and working then love affairs?
...

Thank you for the info.
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Posted by DwellingOnMove
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MINE IS:
Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Leo
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Sag
Mars: Libra

HIS IS:
Sun: Sag
Moon: Virgo
Mercury: Scorpio
Venus: Scorpio

Mars: Aquarius
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Not sure if you can get a young Virgo Mooner get faster bloom than they do. 😢

Better you enjoy being flattered that his Venus and Mercury in Scorpio were interested. In the first place.

Also his response "you can destroy him" is a dangerous flirting. Cause it does not set you free. It keeps you interested. Trap of VenInScorp.

If it would be for your Venus and Mars, I could say simply chase him. But with Leo Moon and being Scorpio Sun and Mercury I think you waste your time with that. Why should the process save his education and runin yours?

Or you program yourself for a long term chasing with a small slope (over the time axis).
Keep walking until you're at home.
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What does this all mean?



He is not into you babe.
I'm stone cold with people I feel uncomfortable about them, sorry .



I don't think I made that big of an impact on him to be that cold towards me and feel that uncomfortable.
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I agree. hes not interested. he's trying to create space and distant. let him.