Backgrounds

Our past is not important or relative to the present and future. But it is the foundation of who we are and should be properly remembered. We all have a place that we came from. I came from a very dirt poor upbringing and people who have been in similar situations know that it makes you strong, being poor. People of a wealthy upbringing place more value on education and families as they both represent future.

Perhaps this has no relavance but I thought it to be intresting finding out where people on here come from. What kind of life did you have growing up? What made your past? Was it puppies and chocolate or anger and poverty?

What do you mean about some people not appreciating your advantages?

It appears to me that most people can "see" where within their past has made them the person they are today ... however, cannot "see" whether it's good or bad.

I usually see the bad much easier as do most people. It seems to be a bigger part of who you are because pain brings wisdom. That is the emotion that helps you grow.

"What kind of life did you have growing up? What made your past?"


Different interpretations about what the world means, for me. Whether we were poor or rich, wasn't really present in my awareness as to how the world was viewed. If we lived in a mansion or a shack didn't make an impression in my mind, rather, living within the exact realness of the moment as each event unfolded.

I'm not sure I understand, P-Angel.

I know ... you don't have to, I'm used to that 🙂

"I usually see the bad much easier as do most people. It seems to be a bigger part of who you are because pain brings wisdom. That is the emotion that helps you grow."

Though, I agree with you in theory .. I find that a person can recognize the bad, however, not see it as a good or bad trait to provide this growth.

What I mean is .. if a person has foul language, if they know that they sleep around with people, if they know that they are competitive with others, if they know that they are hateful, if they know that they do anything wrong ... doesn't stop them from doing it because this has been instilled into the psyche.

Such as being a pervert, like you, for example .. you know you are, and to you, this is you and therefore to recognize that you talk to people in such as way isn't bad to you. Or me, though I recognize that I put people in opposition .. it isn't bad to me. So, to have the ability to "see" where this has come from in our past .. doesn't provide growth to us if we don't comprehend what is bad and what is good, within ourselves.

I come from a moderate background..quite a large family so parents had to work a lot harder..nothing too extravagent..growing up my father would've been happy with me settling down at 25 with 2.4 children and a rich husband..but I took a different path in life...and one I am proud of....you are what you make of yourself..a sole entity...

Now they all look up to me..always wanted to make daddy proud...after dragging him through hell and back, I can safely say I have achieved that..

Peace..

"I'm not sure I understand, P-Angel."


Alright, I'll try to explain .. most people remember their childhood as in .. their house, bedroom, supper mom was cooking, friends, their toys, television shows. Whereas, with me .. those things were just a blur like background noise. Though, I remember them being present, they didn't leave an impression in my mind, other than just distractions to you non-aware folks .. give you something to focus on other than the reality of each moment as it is lived .. meaning, what everything means ... the unsaid, actions, tones, facial expressions, saying one thing and meaning the other ... this is what my life entailed as a youth, trying to comprehend.

"Such as being a pervert, like you, for example .. you know you are, and to you, this is you and therefore to recognize that you talk to people in such as way isn't bad to you."


I'm sorry if saying this offended you, Scorpius .. that wasn't intended to hurt your feelings.

P-Angel: "the unsaid, actions, tones, facial expressions, saying one thing and meaning the other"

Very well said...It is people beyond your family ..extended family as such...mother always used to wonder why I hated everyone and never wanted to go to pay them visits etc..Why? because they were all fake..those false smiles, pretending to care...its horrid when you can see through to the real intentions...as a child, you want to just experience childhood without knowing too much...remain innocent for longer maybe...I grew up way too quick..but all the better for it...

All this philosophical talk..I need an olive..

Sorry, mm ... I'll leave and let it be light. If I knew how to do that, then I would.

Ah...you don't have to leave....stay...I just needed an olive..

Alright ... but, my talk will always take that slant because it's the only way it knows how 🙂

I don't think our lives are built around parental influence as much as we believe .. for if it was then we all (within a family) be just alike in our beliefs and values. But, we're not because we all interpret things for ourselves.

Example: Three kids come from a wealthy family .. one wants to be just like parents to be rich as hell, one takes advantage of the situation and has no economical evaluation, the third sees parents as snobby rich bitches and chooses poverty.

What our parents did, said, gave us means nothing as far as thier influences upon us ... it's all about our own interpretation.

To me anyone who can express themselves that way must have the patience of a saint....

I want to get to A-Z in the quicket time possible...

But, what about all the flowers and sunsets along the way?

The endings don't mean anything to me .. it's the path getting there.

I suppose I pissed Scorpius off, since he didn't come back.

I come from a blue-collar/ working class environment ? neither of my parents have a degree because they had to go into the work force at a REALLY early age. My mother and father (Pisces and Scorpio/Saggie cusp) taught two very different mottos. Mom is always pushing --?you have to pull yourself up by the boot-scraps because there are no free meals in this world? ? which means not to sit around and wait for someone to give what you want/ need/ desire.

Dad pushed, ?to never let your right hand know what your left hand is up to? ? which mean to never reveal all of your thoughts, intentions, motives, etc. because there's always someone lurking in the shadows waiting for you to make a bad move and then all hope is lost if someone finds your weak spot. My father was always afraid that someone would take advantage of me because he believed (in his own words) ?A nice girl is a sitting duck?.

In school, some kids called me spoiled because my mom boast about the gifts my father and she would give me ? I'm so glad she quiet being so boastful, it was that darn Libra moon of hers, but difficult times put that moon in it's place.

Anyway, what those kids didn't know is that I was given stuff because I was alone most of time ? my two oldest brothers were off discovering themselves and the brothers close to my age was out discovering themselves LOL!!! My mom worked and my dad had has on business to tend to ? when he was in the hospital, so I spent time keeping myself company. Although, I didn't like seeing him ill, it was kind of cool taking care of him when he was sick because I spent time with him, haha, he could send me away if he needed me to help him eat his food 😉 Sometimes I wouldn't want to, but that's because I was too young and na?ve to understand the situation I was dealing with.

My parents and other family members were very strict, I could hardly go to the movies without a family (male) counterpart with me until I was 18. My dad always wanted to pick the man I was supposed to marry because that's the way things were done where in his time. My dad never wanted me to look indecent, he never wanted me (nor my mother) to bare more skin then we had to ? my mom and I always protested but he still was stern about that. Mom always wanted me to be a ?woman?, in every since of the word, and he always taught me to go out looking my best. I try but college life makes that hard to do sometimes.

I was always taught to give thanks for everything I receive because true gifts rare and the people who give them to you are priceless.

Most of my memories are just about my family doing things one way, and then trying to explain to me that it meant something different than what I was experiencing as I observed them ... frustrating.

And the award for the longest post goes to.........................drum roll

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Cappysweetie...

Sorry P..you have competition!

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Hahaha!!! @ MM, well Scorpius wanted background so I gave it 😛

No, PA post is more thought provoking, I'm still trying to respond to it.

well let it all out hun...

hehe

🙂

Where is Scorpius? He needs to respond to our stuff, he asked for it. 🙂

I wouldn't necessarily say that CappySweetie .. you are constantly saying things that makes my mind turn in a different direction.

lol @ mm ... I do this for you. Rest assured, I keep writing essays here .. then erase and try to make it short and to the point.

LOL @ P-angel...Bless...Yeah I dunno why I am like that....I get to about the 4th line then I am like yada yada yada...run off, get some chocolate, go dance, do something..then come back and read the next two...

Attention span of a ::blank::

Sorry, all. I fell asleep. This was all good stuff apart from TaurusBabe's half-ass remarks. P-Angl, where did you get that quote that you thought might be offensive? I didn't say that.

"LOL...but it's true !!! Somebody has to say it...so kudos to you for being open and honest."

I was trying really hard to just let this go but you really are a complete asshole.

And your kissing topic sucked. I can do and describe a better kiss than that easily.

cappysweety, holy shit! You are a talker, aren't you!

No, Scorpius .. it's something I said, and then came back to say I was sorry if it offended you 🙂

"Such as being a pervert, like you, for example .. you know you are, and to you, this is you and therefore to recognize that you talk to people in such as way isn't bad to you. Or me, though I recognize that I put people in opposition .. it isn't bad to me. So, to have the ability to "see" where this has come from in our past .. doesn't provide growth to us if we don't comprehend what is bad and what is good, within ourselves."

Oh! I see what you are saying. But I am no more of a pervert than anyone else here. I'm just a simple man.

Being able to see it is the most important step, P-Angel. If people have to comprehend something they need to know what they are comprehending. You can't do that unless you know what you're looking for.

Hey, look! We posted our comments only a second apart. And I don't really mind being a pervert. I think it is just a creative way of expressing imagination. And I'm going to stick to that justification until I'm done being horny.

"But I am no more of a pervert than anyone else here. I'm just a simple man."


That was my whole point, though ... for you to accept being a perv is apart of who you are, and knowing this, you believe that this is the same for everybody .. which in essence, to know that you are one, won't change you even if you have awareness into it because it's viewed by you as being apart of what is in everybody.

So, in essence .. this knowledge about yourself doesn't bring change, for there's no determination into whether it's right or wrong.

That was my whole point ..... it doesn't matter what we know about ourselves, or where it came from, beit, childhood or adulthood .. if what we are comprehending is that it isn't wrong.

cappysweety, holy shit! You are a talker, aren't you!

😛 😛 😛 @ Scorpius

Now I gotcha. But at the same time growing up in a very poor environment, we had to have a very strong sense of respect and dignity, the kind of morals that make you better. Generosity was a major one.

What I mean, P-Angel, is that the mere fact that you comprehend something is just short of meaningless. There has to be a sense of right and wrong at least to a degree.

cappy, c'mon, tell me the truth!

"Yeah...I can't STAND you either."

You might not be able to stand me but I know that you probably outstand me by at least 10 feet, Amazon, woman.

LOL, you are so crazy! Look Mister intensity, thats all I'm given and nothing else 😉

No you're not. Tell me if that's really you in the avitar.

"LOL, you are so crazy! Look Mister intensity, thats all I'm given and nothing else"

I did you the honor of correcting your sentance. It should read:

LOL! You are so crazy! Look, Mister Intensity, that's all I'm giving you and not anything else.

😛

Tsk tks, woman. I expected more from a Capricorn.

"I came from a very dirt poor upbringing and people who have been in similar situations know that it makes you strong, being poor."


I don't agree with this statement at all. That is to say, for every person who comes from poverty .. as well as to say that every person who comes from wealth falls within a certain mind-set in adulthood.

What makes a person stronger is in accordance with their own interpretations of what they experienced, not the experience, itself.

For instance: A person could come from poverty a stronger person OR they could dwell in the misery of it and believe that this must be their destiny because it was bestowed up them and never find the resolve to rise above OR a person could rebel against this up-bringing by being defiant merely thinking they are being a stronger person for it when in reality if they are revolting then they aren't showing any fortitude at all rather weakness.

So, it's in how we interpret what something means to us that is going to mold us, and NOT the experience, itself.

The interpretation cannot happen if you don't realise it, P-Angel. The experiance is the most important part. Then and only then can you make something of it. I can tell you for a fact that poverty lead me to self-destruction, criminal acts, depression, and even on a positive note, hard work.

It is when you don't die from those experiances and move past it that it becomes important. Interpretation is only in your mind. Everyone can agree that it takes a man to actually do something about his thoughts.

Just like now even. I am interpreting how badly I want the cigarette that is 4 steps behind me but I am going to have to take a risk and get out there. I need to go get the cigarette, P-Angel. This is just not a mission I can't fail. 😛

i belong to a well to do family,we are not poor not rich,stuck in the middle types.some people might consider that as wealthy,but i really dont think much about it.the financial status that is.
our family has been a close knit unit.with everyone comming together including the extended family,etc.so family values and respect are high.
what else? let me think.we as kids did not get that much sheltered life,our parents have been tough diciplinarians,which is why we were told to be responsible from an early age.we grew up in a time of weird turmoil sort of situation in our country.as a child i was very confusedabout all the political troubles happening here.couldnt figure out what was going on,like why did certain children in my area not play with my group,or why all the violence was taking place.its all a weird mix of memories.
we were sent to a boarding school,boys only.not a wealthy high snazzy one,just a an average one because my parents always thought that its not the school but the individual who has to work hard and study well,that way a person becomes more indipendent.
what else is left?
i know i am typing all this randomly.haahaa

*gasp* how dare you correct me! I knew what I meant to say.

Tsk tks, woman. I expected more from a Capricorn.

*blows top*

Darn you to heck! 😛 😛 😛

Oh yea, cappy... I went there. 😛

Hey Devil, thats sorta kinda how I was bought up minus the middle-class and political problems. When I was going to school (K thru 5th) if a certain group of kids wanted to be with or try to be with another group of kids then all hell was upon us. I never really understood why, I still don't. I'm not a hugely violent person so all the craziness made my stomach hurt.

This cappy doesn't have her mojo going today, but I will catch you off guard -- I'll come at ya when you least expected it LOL!!!!!!