Brutal truth

So I went out with a Sun/Venus Scorp male last night and it went pretty great. I myself am a Cancer. We had fun, ate together and went to watch a film in the city. He paid for everything even though I insisted. He is very touch feely, and attentive. At the end of the night I asked him if he found me attractive. He does, He asked me what exactly it was that I was looking for. I told him if all goes well down the line I hoped whoever I'm dating would develop into a relationship if compatible. He responded that in all honesty he doesn't think he is ready for a relationship. It didn't upset me for I know we had literally just met and we get along great and we all know relationships take time and foundation. I'm very blunt and so was he. He wants to see me again and he said he wouldn't consider hanging out with me or getting to know me a waste of time, that he is pretty much a loner. What should I think of this Scorpio? Give him a shot with no expectations?

Hmm whenever i hear that, it means "im not interested in a relationship with you"

Sounds like you both want different things.

Hang out with him and have a good time but always remember, he told you up front that he didn't want a relationship.

Sounds like he just wants sex OP. However, you could see if there's potential to see if it develops into anything. He's probably a thinking in present terms rather than thinking too far ahead. Some people don't like to have expectations. I don't see why a guy would just go on a date and treat a girl out to dinner unless they want something out of it... And if it's not a relationship he's seeking, what else could he be looking for? Probably a casual encounter me thinks, but sometimes, those flings can evolve into relationships too... or not. Really, the ball is on your court.

Should i give him a shot with no expectations?

You shouldn't, but you will.

Hmm as far as i know, scorpios take a reallyyyy long time to fall in love with someone because they need to know that they can trust the person before they let themselves be vulnerable to them. What i suggest is that since you are both hitting off well, just hang out with no expectations and see where it leads to!

If he's not looking for the same thing as you then I'd not bother with him. That said, I read that men look for sex and then find love whereas women look for love and then find sex... ?

Posted by AgentP911
If he's not looking for the same thing as you then I'd not bother with him. That said, I read that men look for sex and then find love whereas women look for love and then find sex... ?

So true all of my relationships came from just bang her bro advice 😐

Wtf where am I?

I wouldn't recommend it if there's even a 0.00001% chance you'll get attached and then be disappointed.

kudos to him for being honest straightaway.

Posted by TaurusinTexas
Hang out with him and have a good time but always remember, he told you up front that he didn't want a relationship.

Pretty much. I plan to just continue dating or hanging with him. I told him sex isn't in the cards for me now. He was totally fine with it.

Posted by earlorg16
Sounds like he just wants sex OP. However, you could see if there's potential to see if it develops into anything. He's probably a thinking in present terms rather than thinking too far ahead. Some people don't like to have expectations. I don't see why a guy would just go on a date and treat a girl out to dinner unless they want something out of it... And if it's not a relationship he's seeking, what else could he be looking for? Probably a casual encounter me thinks, but sometimes, those flings can evolve into relationships too... or not. Really, the ball is on your court.

I plan on just dating/ hanging. I told him straight up I didn't plan on sex because well sex comes with a lot of trust for me. He says he's okay with that, that there was no pressure

Posted by tayrusctsm
Hmm as far as i know, scorpios take a reallyyyy long time to fall in love with someone because they need to know that they can trust the person before they let themselves be vulnerable to them. What i suggest is that since you are both hitting off well, just hang out with no expectations and see where it leads to!

Hell I know I take a long time to even be in a relationship I have to trust the person and a lot goes into it. He asked I answered and I'm glad we are both honest. I plan to go with flow with him and not to expect anything. He knows sex isn't in the cards for me if that is what he wants. He says no pressure

Posted by leowww
He's been honest and said he doesn't wants a relationship, I'd assume sex is mostly what he's looking for.... and If you're okay with that... Awesome, enjoy... If what you want is a potential relationship.. then this might not be a good idea.

I told him sex isn't what I was looking for right now. And he says he's okay with that, that there was no pressure. He'd still want to spend time with me. I plan on just going with the flow and not expect anything even though he "wasn't ready for a relationship right now" I'm okay with knowing there's possibly nothing going to be developed because he told me early on.

Posted by Plagued
Post his chart

Zodiac : Tropical

Sun Scorpio 5°44'

Moon Aquarius 5°39'

Mercury Scorpio 2°37' R

Venus Scorpio 23°28'

Mars Libra 13°28'

Jupiter Aries 23°12' R

Saturn Sagittarius 18°20'

Uranus Sagittarius 24°06'

Neptune Capricorn 5°44'

Pluto Scorpio 9°45'

Lilith Leo 7°58'

Asc node Aries 1°59'

Posted by Taniwha
Sounds like he knows how to communicate. Trap him and bring him in for questioning/experiments, he's a rare breed.

Lmao! Is that so?

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Posted by Plagued
Post his chart

Zodiac : Tropical

Sun Scorpio 5°44'

Moon Aquarius 5°39'

Mercury Scorpio 2°37' R

Venus Scorpio 23°28'

Mars Libra 13°28'

Jupiter Aries 23°12' R

Saturn Sagittarius 18°20'

Uranus Sagittarius 24°06'

Neptune Capricorn 5°44'

Pluto Scorpio 9°45'

Lilith Leo 7°58'

Asc node Aries 1°59'

that's my brother and my good friend



they're very picky



dont' be illogical ...they hate illogical women

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Illogical how?

@kittykunoichi

Like being irrationally needy. My Scorp has a Gem moon, but the airyness still applies, with more of a cuddle bear than Aqua Moon.

Things my Scorp didn't like about his ex's:

Making him do shit to "prove" love. ie 'shopping!'

Always expected to answer a text message in 5 minutes.

Snooping on his phone.

Wanting to do EVERYTHING together

Only doing what she wanted to do =p

I might say this, but not because I don't want a relationship maybe I just want to enjoy the friendship and go with the flow without expectations.

Posted by SensitiveBlues
* going cold on him cause he did something wrong

* usury

* lack of emotional stability

* lack of communication skills

* Control (attempt at it)

Aahhh okay. I like the insight 😉

Posted by GypsyInChains
I might say this, but not because I don't want a relationship maybe I just want to enjoy the friendship and go with the flow without expectations.

Yeah I feel like I may have popped that question too soon but I wanted to know where his mind was at. I was eventually going to blurt it out so I was bold in doing so. I plan on doing just that. Going with the flow with him.

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Posted by GypsyInChains
I might say this, but not because I don't want a relationship maybe I just want to enjoy the friendship and go with the flow without expectations.

Yeah I feel like I may have popped that question too soon but I wanted to know where his mind was at. I was eventually going to blurt it out so I was bold in doing so. I plan on doing just that. Going with the flow with him.

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Don't ever feel bad about saying what you want. You aren't going to scare off someone who wants to be there in the way you want.

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Posted by kittykunoichi

Posted by GypsyInChains
I might say this, but not because I don't want a relationship maybe I just want to enjoy the friendship and go with the flow without expectations.

Yeah I feel like I may have popped that question too soon but I wanted to know where his mind was at. I was eventually going to blurt it out so I was bold in doing so. I plan on doing just that. Going with the flow with him.

Don't ever feel bad about saying what you want. You aren't going to scare off someone who wants to be there in the way you want.

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I don't feel as guilty because I didn't exactly scare him off. He still wants to see me. I'm just blunt with what I say and I'm glad he didn't see me in the wrong light

Posted by AneemA
But venus in scorp shows love through sexual acts, right?

Op, if I were you, I would just go with the flow and yes with no expectation at all. Said me, sun scorp cancer moon.

No expectation!! But go hang out with him. Scorps always have something to offer you ?

Yeah Venus in scorpio is in thru sexual acts from my knowledge. It's the first question he answered when we were just talking he's like I like a girl who has a sense of humor, is kind, has a sense of style and is a freak in the sheets... lmao I laughed at his last comment because I saw that outta nowhere. I'm like I don't know that is something you'd have to discover, he responded by saying he looks forward it. So I know he is def sexual by nature and it's an important aspect of him connecting with a female. He doesn't step the boundaries he gladly respects. All he says is "you take me as far as you want me to go"

Posted by Andalusia
Should i give him a shot with no expectations?

You shouldn't, but you will.

Lmao I probably would. But I'm curious as to why you say that

Posted by kittykunoichi

Posted by Andalusia
Should i give him a shot with no expectations?

You shouldn't, but you will.

Lmao I probably would. But I'm curious as to why you say that

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I had more typed out earlier but realized it came across as mean and/or jaded, so I hid it.

Basically though: Because you're already ignoring what he's telling you.

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Posted by Andalusia
Should i give him a shot with no expectations?

You shouldn't, but you will.

Lmao I probably would. But I'm curious as to why you say that

I had more typed out earlier but realized it came across as mean and/or jaded, so I hid it.

Basically though: Because you're already ignoring what he's telling you.

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No I hear what he's saying and there's no pressure. We just started literally a date. I have no expectations and I did ask what was on his mind. If I didn't wanna know I wouldn't have asked and acted naive. I don't plan on playing victim when I already know the truth, so no disappointments down the road when I've already been forewarned

Posted by kittykunoichi
He asked me what exactly it was that I was looking for. I told him if all goes well down the line I hoped whoever I'm dating would develop into a relationship ...He responded that in all honesty he doesn't think he is ready for a relationship.

Posted by kittykunoichi
... we all know relationships take time and foundation.

Oh? Sounds to me like you're holding onto the hope that this^^ is what he means vs hearing what the man is actually saying. He asked you straight up what do you want and told you what he doesn't to make sure you are both clear about where you stand as you move forward. Not sure what type of foundation you plan to build from that.

Posted by kittykunoichi
What should I think of this Scorpio? Give him a shot with no expectations?

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This last question makes no sense. By virtue of you "giving him a shot" suggest you have expectations that it will become more.

Don't say the man didn't warn you two months in....

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Posted by tayrusctsm
Hmm as far as i know, scorpios take a reallyyyy long time to fall in love with someone because they need to know that they can trust the person before they let themselves be vulnerable to them. What i suggest is that since you are both hitting off well, just hang out with no expectations and see where it leads to!

Hell I know I take a long time to even be in a relationship I have to trust the person and a lot goes into it. He asked I answered and I'm glad we are both honest. I plan to go with flow with him and not to expect anything. He knows sex isn't in the cards for me if that is what he wants. He says no pressure

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You keep writing this as to convince yourself that you're both in the same page. You're not. Trust, there won't be any pressure on his end. That's not how Scorp men roll. Especially not one with an Air Moon. Yet, we still have a whole board full of women asking "what happened?" when the panties fell and he walked away.

I have a Scorp guy friend who has been with a Sag girl for 3 years. He says he doesn't love her but they are compatible. He doesn't see marrying her. He said she asked him if he loves her, he said "i love you but i'm not in love with you".

Point is, imo, if ANY man says he's not ready for a relationship, take it at face value. I have said that myself and I meant it! i believe either they aren't attracted to you enough, haven't got their stuff together?, or you are not up to their standards. Well, that's why i said that anyway 🙂

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Posted by kittykunoichi

Posted by tayrusctsm
Hmm as far as i know, scorpios take a reallyyyy long time to fall in love with someone because they need to know that they can trust the person before they let themselves be vulnerable to them. What i suggest is that since you are both hitting off well, just hang out with no expectations and see where it leads to!

Hell I know I take a long time to even be in a relationship I have to trust the person and a lot goes into it. He asked I answered and I'm glad we are both honest. I plan to go with flow with him and not to expect anything. He knows sex isn't in the cards for me if that is what he wants. He says no pressure

You keep writing this as to convince yourself that you're both in the same page. You're not. Trust, there won't be any pressure on his end. That's not how Scorp men roll. Especially not one with an Air Moon. Yet, we still have a whole board full of women asking "what happened?" when the panties fell and he walked away.

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I get what you are saying and I take no offense and am open minded to what you are saying. Before we met he kept asking me to "give him a shot" this is why those words stuck to my vocabulary and I view him as the guy who got a shot with no expectations lol. If I drop my panties that's by choice not because im hoping he will chanhe his mind no we are both adults, I don't plan on sex I've been nonsexual for 3 years and it takes a lot to even convince me hey let's get laid. But I can't say never you know. he is so touchy and hugged me every chance he got. Which it didn't bother me. He does talk about sex a lot and drops hints like nothing and is extremely flirty in the date. Again it doesn't bother me. I won't be heartbroken because there is nothing to expect from the man since we spoke of the topic. And of course all of the people here are saying the same thing as well. So I get it.

unless your goal is fwb, why waste time with any man who talks about sex before he knows you?

a man who is mesmerized by a woman would never say "i'm not ready or looking for a relationship" even when he thought that way just a few seconds prior to the meeting lol

yes real love takes time but if if the undeniable spark was not there in the first place, it will never develop into something big. this is especially true for watery folks

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Posted by GypsyInChains
I might say this, but not because I don't want a relationship maybe I just want to enjoy the friendship and go with the flow without expectations.

Yeah I feel like I may have popped that question too soon but I wanted to know where his mind was at. I was eventually going to blurt it out so I was bold in doing so. I plan on doing just that. Going with the flow with him.

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I don't think you asked him too soon about what he is looking for. If you were looking for a new job in, let's say, the banking sector, you wouldn't waste time looking at jobs in a school. If you wanted to buy milk, you wouldn't go into a hardware shop to find it. If you're looking for a relationship, you wouldn't waste time with people who are not looking for a relationship too.

He was straight to the point with you. Good guy. If u could have fun & go with the flow then keep seeing him. If not, you may get hurt

Posted by tayrusctsm
Hmm as far as i know, scorpios take a reallyyyy long time to fall in love with someone because they need to know that they can trust the person before they let themselves be vulnerable to them. What i suggest is that since you are both hitting off well, just hang out with no expectations and see where it leads to!

I don't know I think it depends. not every scorpio guy is gonna fall in love the same way.

I've read several scorpio men state they fell in love at first sight.

they just "know" who they want, and will pursue that.

then there are accounts here all the time that the man is always thinking and sussing a woman out. (sounds very airy/earthy to me)

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Posted by AneemA
But venus in scorp shows love through sexual acts, right?

Op, if I were you, I would just go with the flow and yes with no expectation at all. Said me, sun scorp cancer moon.

No expectation!! But go hang out with him. Scorps always have something to offer you ?

Yeah Venus in scorpio is in thru sexual acts from my knowledge. It's the first question he answered when we were just talking he's like I like a girl who has a sense of humor, is kind, has a sense of style and is a freak in the sheets... lmao I laughed at his last comment because I saw that outta nowhere. I'm like I don't know that is something you'd have to discover, he responded by saying he looks forward it. So I know he is def sexual by nature and it's an important aspect of him connecting with a female. He doesn't step the boundaries he gladly respects. All he says is "you take me as far as you want me to go"

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hm I have read through many sources online, and real life of course, that it is the MARS sign that is sexual/acts of,

venus for a man is what he is attracted to, (for a woman it is how she flirts)

mars is how he goes about it, his attraction sexual drive.

you didn't mention I don't think, his mars sign?

If he enjoys spending time with you he will...if you don't have sex with him and that's all he wants...then he will move on...just make sure you are spending time dating others...who want the same thing you're looking for...you never know...in the meantime...he just might come around.

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Posted by AneemA
But venus in scorp shows love through sexual acts, right?

Op, if I were you, I would just go with the flow and yes with no expectation at all. Said me, sun scorp cancer moon.

No expectation!! But go hang out with him. Scorps always have something to offer you ?

Yeah Venus in scorpio is in thru sexual acts from my knowledge. It's the first question he answered when we were just talking he's like I like a girl who has a sense of humor, is kind, has a sense of style and is a freak in the sheets... lmao I laughed at his last comment because I saw that outta nowhere. I'm like I don't know that is something you'd have to discover, he responded by saying he looks forward it. So I know he is def sexual by nature and it's an important aspect of him connecting with a female. He doesn't step the boundaries he gladly respects. All he says is "you take me as far as you want me to go"

hm I have read through many sources online, and real life of course, that it is the MARS sign that is sexual/acts of,

venus for a man is what he is attracted to, (for a woman it is how she flirts)

mars is how he goes about it, his attraction sexual drive.

you didn't mention I don't think, his mars sign?

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His Mars is in Libra

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I have a Scorp guy friend who has been with a Sag girl for 3 years. He says he doesn't love her but they are compatible. He doesn't see marrying her. He said she asked him if he loves her, he said "i love you but i'm not in love with you".

Point is, imo, if ANY man says he's not ready for a relationship, take it at face value. I have said that myself and I meant it! i believe either they aren't attracted to you enough, haven't got their stuff together?, or you are not up to their standards. Well, that's why i said that anyway 🙂

thats crazy and she's still with him

wow

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that is crazy, I would cry a lot if a man said to me and he never married me. As if he is waiting for the "one".

maybe she is hoping no one would come along and in the meantime she still has him.

We know couples that aren't married, are living together have babies but the guys don't say that to the women. One guy is avoiding marriage talk, but he hasn't said he will marry or not. He's as if up in the air about it.

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Posted by AneemA
But venus in scorp shows love through sexual acts, right?

Op, if I were you, I would just go with the flow and yes with no expectation at all. Said me, sun scorp cancer moon.

No expectation!! But go hang out with him. Scorps always have something to offer you ?

Yeah Venus in scorpio is in thru sexual acts from my knowledge. It's the first question he answered when we were just talking he's like I like a girl who has a sense of humor, is kind, has a sense of style and is a freak in the sheets... lmao I laughed at his last comment because I saw that outta nowhere. I'm like I don't know that is something you'd have to discover, he responded by saying he looks forward it. So I know he is def sexual by nature and it's an important aspect of him connecting with a female. He doesn't step the boundaries he gladly respects. All he says is "you take me as far as you want me to go"

hm I have read through many sources online, and real life of course, that it is the MARS sign that is sexual/acts of,

venus for a man is what he is attracted to, (for a woman it is how she flirts)

mars is how he goes about it, his attraction sexual drive.

you didn't mention I don't think, his mars sign?

His Mars is in Libra

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oohhh. hm that IS something else.

you have a more diplomatic guy, and will think on it, more.

I like mars in libra though. it's a good mars imo. it is very peaceful and kind, more relaxed.