Friendship with a scorpio woman

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After having worked together for a while, my scorpio collegue asked me to join her and a couple of her friends on a daytrip to - in my mind - the store from hell (a shit-load of people crowding in one place, bumping into each other on purpose and being as rude to each other as humanly possible). I thought she was joking, so I told her that I would rather torture myself slowly to death with a pair of tweezers. As it turned out, she wasn't, so I had to tell her, as kindly as possible, that I was very grateful for the invite, but that I tried to avoid that store for the sake of my mental health. The latter I said not in that exact wording and in a jokey way (she also knows the reputation of that store) and she understood, but I think she was, quite understandably, a little hurt by my first reply.

Later, she invited me to other activities, all of which I declined due to real legit reasons, such as funerals. She completely understood this, ofc. However, the events she invited me to were very much not events that I would gladly go to.

Over the years, we have gotten closer and closer. We always worked well together - always comfortable knowing that the other person is doing what they're supposed to do, which is essential in our line of work. We may not agree on everything, but we both see this purely as a plus, since it makes our conversations so much more interesting and we get to see other points of view. We can literally talk about everything and anything and I think we really get each other, partly due to some similarities in our backgrounds. We confide in each other and when not so fun things happen, she knows she can call me...and she does.

I really value her friendship and don't want to lose her as such, but we have no(!) common interests. I could sit and talk to her for hours on end, but I couldn't even make a music playlist for us to listen to during our talks(which ofc is the least of our problems). Usually, I'm pretty open to learning and experiencing new things (sag venus ftw.😛), but her interests I can't even wrap my head around. I have tried, but I just don't get it. She loves it, so that's great! I just don't want to participate.

One of the types of events she likes to go to, I feel so strongly about that I'm afraid that I'm going to make a very harsh comment about it one day - worst case scenario, on one of those events. I should add that I don't have a problem with the events as such - they're just gatherings; my problem is that I feel they include a bunch of narcissistic douchebags and I just can't involve myself with them, especially since I feel they are being very fake to and are using my friend...who is just happy to hang out with celebs...which I don't get, but that's not for me to judge. Those types of events are very few atm, due to covid, so that probably won't happen in the near future, though, but some day....

Since I have turned down every single event she has invited me to so far, except for tea or drinks one-on-one (and those types of meetings, I have also instigated), I feel like I should just clench my teeth and join her next time she asks me to do something, (almost!:o) whatever it is and hope that there will be very few such invites...or should I just take the bull by the horns and talk to her before she invites me to do something else and risk hurting her again?

I'd rather not tell her straight up that I feel her celeb "friends" are just using her. I have given subtle hints at some to me unbelievable things they have written over the years, but I think she doesn't want to see it. Ofc, I could be completely wrong; she knows them so much better than I do, but the amount of red flags are, imo, staggering. And how do you tell a person you actually like that their interests make you cringe to the point of you feeling really uneasy about participating? On the bright side, that feeling may just be mutual.🙂

I'm usually not(!) an indecisive person, but I really struggle with this one. Any thoughts? I'm a female capricorn, btw.
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After having worked together for a while, my scorpio collegue asked me to join her and a couple of her friends on a daytrip to - in my mind - the store from hell (a shit-load of people crowding in one place, bumping into each other on purpose and being as rude to each other as humanly possible). I thought she was joking, so I told her that I would rather torture myself slowly to death with a pair of tweezers. As it turned out, she wasn't, so I had to tell her, as kindly as possible, that I was very grateful for the invite, but that I tried to avoid that store for the sake of my mental health. The latter I said not in that exact wording and in a jokey way (she also knows the reputation of that store) and she understood, but I think she was, quite understandably, a little hurt by my first reply.

Later, she invited me to other activities, all of which I declined due to real legit reasons, such as funerals. She completely understood this, ofc. However, the events she invited me to were very much not events that I would gladly go to.

Over the years, we have gotten closer and closer. We always worked well together - always comfortable knowing that the other person is doing what they're supposed to do, which is essential in our line of work. We may not agree on everything, but we both see this purely as a plus, since it makes our conversations so much more interesting and we get to see other points of view. We can literally talk about everything and anything and I think we really get each other, partly due to some similarities in our backgrounds. We confide in each other and when not so fun things happen, she knows she can call me...and she does.

I really value her friendship and don't want to lose her as such, but we have no(!) common interests. I could sit and talk to her for hours on end, but I couldn't even make a music playlist for us to listen to during our talks(which ofc is the least of our problems). Usually, I'm pretty open to learning and experiencing new things (sag venus ftw.😛), but her interests I can't even wrap my head around. I have tried, but I just don't get it. She loves it, so that's great! I just don't want to participate.

One of the types of events she likes to go to, I feel so strongly about that I'm afraid that I'm going to make a very harsh comment about it one day - worst case scenario, on one of those events. I should add that I don't have a problem with the events as such - they're just gatherings; my problem is that I feel they include a bunch of narcissistic douchebags and I just can't involve myself with them, especially since I feel they are being very fake to and are using my friend...who is just happy to hang out with celebs...which I don't get, but that's not for me to judge. Those types of events are very few atm, due to covid, so that probably won't happen in the near future, though, but some day....

Since I have turned down every single event she has invited me to so far, except for tea or drinks one-on-one (and those types of meetings, I have also instigated), I feel like I should just clench my teeth and join her next time she asks me to do something, (almost!:o) whatever it is and hope that there will be very few such invites...or should I just take the bull by the horns and talk to her before she invites me to do something else and risk hurting her again?

I'd rather not tell her straight up that I feel her celeb "friends" are just using her. I have given subtle hints at some to me unbelievable things they have written over the years, but I think she doesn't want to see it. Ofc, I could be completely wrong; she knows them so much better than I do, but the amount of red flags are, imo, staggering. And how do you tell a person you actually like that their interests make you cringe to the point of you feeling really uneasy about participating? On the bright side, that feeling may just be mutual.🙂

I'm usually not(!) an indecisive person, but I really struggle with this one. Any thoughts? I'm a female capricorn, btw.

No need to grin and pretend, you could be honest about not enjoying the events she inviting you to by simply saying they are not your thing. No need to be harsh or offensive (e.g. calling her interest cringe). Personally, it seems like she just wants to find things for the two of you to do together and if you're not offering up many suggestions, she going to offer what she enjoys. What are some things that you like and do you invite her to any of these things?

Given you enjoy some quiet time with her, nothing wrong with continuing that and ideas may emerge as your friendship deepens. It may not and that's fine too. I spend time with different friends/people based on the type of moods I am in. I don't know any water signs that don't need a "good convo and chill" friend.

As for commenting on her friends, unless she is continuously complaining about them, or asking for your thoughts on her friendships, I would leave that alone. However, you stated they have written some "unbelievable things". Okay. Are they about her? Or something she would be upset about? Unless they were shared with you directly about her, I doubt she isn't aware of this information. I point this out because personally, I wouldn't appreciate someone chiming in about my friends because what I share with someone may not be obvious to you. Scorps are pretty good at selecting the people they want in their circle (flaws and all) and ending whatever they deem toxic.

On the other hand if the things these are friends are writing are negative or disparaging things about her that she is not aware of, then you should let her know.
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...She doesn’t need a sidekick so she doesn’t need you to go to the events with her....She is probably more intuitive than you, so don’t worry.... if she is being used, she will catch on if she hasn’t already. She might even be playing right into it at this point. Scorpios are chameleons.

In summary, don’t worry about your scorp, and don’t try to force yourself into her social circle if that’s not your thing. She will (and has) accept you either way. You don’t need to have a lot in common, open communication is rare enough to find these days, so I’m sure that’s more than enough for her.

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Posted by ImperfectStormSince I have turned down every single event she has invited me to so far, except for tea or drinks one-on-one (and those types of meetings, I have also instigated), I feel like I should just clench my teeth and join her next time she asks me to do somethin

Yeah, DON’T do that.

The last thing a Scorpio woman wants you to do is be fake.

You don’t have to have common interests, and you don’t have to agree with what she does at her leisure. Everything you posted here is merely your opinion, which is seems like you had preconceived notions about all of this, so it is unlikely that she would ever be able to change your mind anyway.

She doesn’t need a sidekick so she doesn’t need you to go to the events with her. But your opinions come across as very judgy and almost... bitter? Just live and let live. She is probably more intuitive than you, so don’t worry.... if she is being used, she will catch on if she hasn’t already. She might even be playing right into it at this point. Scorpios are chameleons.

In summary, don’t worry about your scorp, and don’t try to force yourself into her social circle if that’s not your thing. She will (and has) accept you either way. You don’t need to have a lot in common, open communication is rare enough to find these days, so I’m sure that’s more than enough for her.


Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

Ofc she doesn't need me on those events, but she has asked me so many times now, that I'm starting to feel like a bad friend for not having gone with her at least once. I have had legit reasons for saying no so far, but...anyway.

Judgy? I don't know about that. I don't understand it, that's for sure. Really wish I did, though...

Bitter? No, absolutely not. What would I be bitter about?

You wrote "She might even be playing right into it at this point." That's exactly what I'm hoping for!

I do think we have a great relationship. I just don't want to ruin it by comming off as not caring. I think you have to put in a lot of effort in all relationships to be able to make the best of them and that's what I'm trying to do. How successful I am at that is a whooole other question, though.🙂

Thanks for your input!🙂
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Also, if you’re just a homebody there is nothing wrong with that at all. Stay true to yourself and just tell her it’s not your thing... without making it sound like you’re judging her for partaking in it lol


Well, I do like staying at home a lot, but I wouldn't exactly call myself a homebody. 🙂

That is one of my fears: that I tell her that and that it comes off like I'm judging her. And maybe I should add that her interests are not at all weird. Just, like you say, not my thing. 🙂
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Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

What is she asking you do, some voyeuristic or taboo kink? What could possibly make you feel "very uneasy"? Now I'm curious.
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After having worked together for a while, my scorpio collegue asked me to join her and a couple of her friends on a daytrip to - in my mind - the store from hell (a shit-load of people crowding in one place, bumping into each other on purpose and being as rude to each other as humanly possible). I thought she was joking, so I told her that I would rather torture myself slowly to death with a pair of tweezers. As it turned out, she wasn't, so I had to tell her, as kindly as possible, that I was very grateful for the invite, but that I tried to avoid that store for the sake of my mental health. The latter I said not in that exact wording and in a jokey way (she also knows the reputation of that store) and she understood, but I think she was, quite understandably, a little hurt by my first reply.

Later, she invited me to other activities, all of which I declined due to real legit reasons, such as funerals. She completely understood this, ofc. However, the events she invited me to were very much not events that I would gladly go to.

Over the years, we have gotten closer and closer. We always worked well together - always comfortable knowing that the other person is doing what they're supposed to do, which is essential in our line of work. We may not agree on everything, but we both see this purely as a plus, since it makes our conversations so much more interesting and we get to see other points of view. We can literally talk about everything and anything and I think we really get each other, partly due to some similarities in our backgrounds. We confide in each other and when not so fun things happen, she knows she can call me...and she does.

I really value her friendship and don't want to lose her as such, but we have no(!) common interests. I could sit and talk to her for hours on end, but I couldn't even make a music playlist for us to listen to during our talks(which ofc is the least of our problems). Usually, I'm pretty open to learning and experiencing new things (sag venus ftw.😛), but her interests I can't even wrap my head around. I have tried, but I just don't get it. She loves it, so that's great! I just don't want to participate.

One of the types of events she likes to go to, I feel so strongly about that I'm afraid that I'm going to make a very harsh comment about it one day - worst case scenario, on one of those events. I should add that I don't have a problem with the events as such - they're just gatherings; my problem is that I feel they include a bunch of narcissistic douchebags and I just can't involve myself with them, especially since I feel they are being very fake to and are using my friend...who is just happy to hang out with celebs...which I don't get, but that's not for me to judge. Those types of events are very few atm, due to covid, so that probably won't happen in the near future, though, but some day....

Since I have turned down every single event she has invited me to so far, except for tea or drinks one-on-one (and those types of meetings, I have also instigated), I feel like I should just clench my teeth and join her next time she asks me to do something, (almost!:o) whatever it is and hope that there will be very few such invites...or should I just take the bull by the horns and talk to her before she invites me to do something else and risk hurting her again?

I'd rather not tell her straight up that I feel her celeb "friends" are just using her. I have given subtle hints at some to me unbelievable things they have written over the years, but I think she doesn't want to see it. Ofc, I could be completely wrong; she knows them so much better than I do, but the amount of red flags are, imo, staggering. And how do you tell a person you actually like that their interests make you cringe to the point of you feeling really uneasy about participating? On the bright side, that feeling may just be mutual.🙂

I'm usually not(!) an indecisive person, but I really struggle with this one. Any thoughts? I'm a female capricorn, btw.

No need to grin and pretend, you could be honest about not enjoying the events she inviting you to by simply saying they are not your thing. No need to be harsh or offensive (e.g. calling her interest cringe). Personally, it seems like she just wants to find things for the two of you to do together and if you're not offering up many suggestions, she going to offer what she enjoys. What are some things that you like and do you invite her to any of these things?

Given you enjoy some quiet time with her, nothing wrong with continuing that and ideas may emerge as your friendship deepens. It may not and that's fine too. I spend time with different friends/people based on the type of moods I am in. I don't know any water signs that don't need a "good convo and chill" friend.

As for commenting on her friends, unless she is continuously complaining about them, or asking for your thoughts on her friendships, I would leave that alone. However, you stated they have written some "unbelievable things". Okay. Are they about her? Or something she would be upset about? Unless they were shared with you directly about her, I doubt she isn't aware of this information. I point this out because personally, I wouldn't appreciate someone chiming in about my friends because what I share with someone may not be obvious to you. Scorps are pretty good at selecting the people they want in their circle (flaws and all) and ending whatever they deem toxic.

On the other hand if the things these are friends are writing are negative or disparaging things about her that she is not aware of, then you should let her know.
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As a clarification, I should probably add that when I wrote cringe, I was trying to describe my feeling when I think of participating and I would definitely not call the very activities cringe. Not sure if I used the wrong word. Can't find one to replace it atm, though. Hmm. Lemme think about that. It's about four in the morning here.🙂

Training I do with one friend and she would not be interested in that anyway, so... This friend is also the one I usually go to concerts with and the scorpio and I have not at all the same taste in music.

With one group of friends who I met at uni, we discuss things we learned there. She would probably feel left out.

Travelling is not of any huge interest to her.

And then I have interests that I do alone.

So, I don't know what that would be. I do invite her to those one-on-ones, because that, I feel, really works and I hope she agrees.

No, this is not info that they have written about her. Their only contact with her is invitations to different events, expecting her to buy things from them, which she does. They are not her real friends; they just send her these invitations and say hello to her on the events and take her money. Tbh, I just think she's starstruck and wants to be near them in some way. In our job, we come in contact with some celebs at times and she always gets all excited and wants to take selfies with them and get autographs.

The unbelievable things I have read are excerpts from interviews and things they have written themselves on different social media and that the scorpio has shown to me. I have just pointed at certain things they have written that I felt were huge red flags and had nothing to do with the scorpio's person at all, such as racist and homofobic comments and some sentences that only a true narcissist could possibly write. I don't have an example right now, but omg and wow.







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Go flirt with some celebs you party pooper.

Maybe you didn't read the entire post? I'm a capricorn, damnit! Being a boring party pooper is ma thayng!😛

I read it you said you're a sag venus.
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Truuue. Okay, I admit I'm not a complete party pooper. These people are just not people I like to party with.🙂
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How old is your friend? She reminds me of me in my teens and 20’s.

I had a lot of friends and different age groups (teens - 60’s), from different countries, different cliques... I was just very open and loved getting to know people. I remember some of my older friends had same types of reservations as you and even see red flags... but I didn’t care because it just didn’t bother me, I wasn’t in that state of mind... since I had so many different groups of friends... none were in the same basket. If it didn’t work out, it wasn’t a huge loss.

Anyway, I also had a lot of picky, introverted friends they were/are: Caps, Taurus, Pisces and Aries. They could sometimes want you all to yourself and not share time and space with others. I really enjoyed that as well. Connection was more intimate and it’s a different kind of fun🤷🏻‍♀️.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that you should just be HONEST and initiate some get together that are more your cup of tea. Because out of the two of you, you sound like the difficult one and she seems more accommodating.

You both have fun when together, so just get her in your safe space.



She’ll be fine.


Oh, she's older than that. Am I picky? Yyyes, I guess I am. Am I an introvert? Yyyes, I guess I am, although I do have an extroverted side to me (sag venus, gem moon and asc).

I do like that she has other friends, and when I say friends in this sentence, I'm talking about her real friends that do not seem fake at all. They seem to treat her really well, so that's awsome! And I have other friends too, so....🙂

Am I more difficult than her? Yes, probably. Am I honest with her? Always! I just don't feel the need to say everything I think, such as in the case of her "friends". (observe the quotation marks!) I'd rather she make her own decisions about them. She's a grown woman and until I see they go at her and she can't handle it herself, I will not interfere directly.

Yes, I do think she'll be fine. Thank you!🙂
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Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

What is she asking you do, some voyeuristic or taboo kink? What could possibly make you feel "very uneasy"? Now I'm curious.
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Just orgies with sheep.😛

Nooo, just riding around in american cars in a show-off way while playing music that I reeeally don't like. (Sorry, I don't know the English word for it.) I'm just not one to do show off in that way. I've been on stage, but that's a whole different thing to me. And those stores that I wrote about in the beginning of the OP...I can't stand them. I just want to disappear. So, is there something wrong with her or her interests? Not at all. Is there something wrong with me? Yup. Apparently.

And I can't make myself bother someone for a selfie because they've been on Big Brother or acted in some movie. I'm normally not easily embarrassed, but that would make me very embarrassed.
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How old is your friend? She reminds me of me in my teens and 20’s.

I had a lot of friends and different age groups (teens - 60’s), from different countries, different cliques... I was just very open and loved getting to know people. I remember some of my older friends had same types of reservations as you and even see red flags... but I didn’t care because it just didn’t bother me, I wasn’t in that state of mind... since I had so many different groups of friends... none were in the same basket. If it didn’t work out, it wasn’t a huge loss.

Anyway, I also had a lot of picky, introverted friends they were/are: Caps, Taurus, Pisces and Aries. They could sometimes want you all to yourself and not share time and space with others. I really enjoyed that as well. Connection was more intimate and it’s a different kind of fun🤷🏻‍♀️.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that you should just be HONEST and initiate some get together that are more your cup of tea. Because out of the two of you, you sound like the difficult one and she seems more accommodating.

You both have fun when together, so just get her in your safe space.



She’ll be fine.

Oh, she's older than that. Am I picky? Yyyes, I guess I am. Am I an introvert? Yyyes, I guess I am, although I do have an extroverted side to me (sag venus, gem moon and asc).

I do like that she has other friends, and when I say friends in this sentence, I'm talking about her real friends that do not seem fake at all. They seem to treat her really well, so that's awsome! And I have other friends too, so....🙂

Am I more difficult than her? Yes, probably. Am I honest with her? Always! I just don't feel the need to say everything I think, such as in the case of her "friends". (observe the quotation marks!) I'd rather she make her own decisions about them. She's a grown woman and until I see they go at her and she can't handle it herself, I will not interfere directly.

Yes, I do think she'll be fine. Thank you!🙂

Oh... what I meant by honest was honest about YOUR NEEDS. Not honest about your judgements...lol. I don’t see the point in judging her friends and social life, especially if she isn’t even asking for advice. Just be honest about liking the idea of hanging out but in ways that make you comfortable. That is what I meant by “honest”. So I agree... no need to say everything you think...lol
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Ofc you meant that. Sorry for being dense. I blame it being five thirty in the morning here. Thank you for your input!🙂
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As a clarification, I should probably add that when I wrote cringe, I was trying to describe my feeling when I think of participating and I would definitely not call the very activities cringe. Not sure if I used the wrong word. Can't find one to replace it atm, though. Hmm. Lemme think about that. It's about four in the morning here.🙂

Fair enough.

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Training I do with one friend and she would not be interested in that anyway, so... This friend is also the one I usually go to concerts with and the scorpio and I have not at all the same taste in music.

With one group of friends who I met at uni, we discuss things we learned there. She would probably feel left out.

Travelling is not of any huge interest to her.

And then I have interests that I do alone.

So, I don't know what that would be. I do invite her to those one-on-ones, because that, I feel, really works and I hope she agrees.

You don't know until you ask/include her. The training and uni cirlce probably not given the focus is unique to your circle. However, with the other stuff like travelling and your personal interests (unless you prefer to do them alone), you won't know unless you ask. I have a good friend that DJs and he assumed for years that I wouldn't enjoy going to a set. Funny thing is I LOVE music and really enjoy dancing. Once he realized this (while we happened to be talking about something else one day) I was always invited to one of his sets and we have a lot of fun. I even MC'd for him once which I loved doing.

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The unbelievable things I have read are excerpts from interviews and things they have written themselves on different social media and that the scorpio has shown to me. I have just pointed at certain things they have written that I felt were huge red flags and had nothing to do with the scorpio's person at all, such as racist and homofobic comments and some sentences that only a true narcissist could possibly write. I don't have an example right now, but omg and wow
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Okay. Well, again my statement stands. The only time I would recommend regarding these acquaintances (because let's be real, they aren't friends), is if they're behaviours/world view cross your boundaries then make that clear to her and she won't invite you out with them anymore. Not to exclude you, but to respect your feelings regarding your desire to keep your distance.

As an aside, you may want to be mindful of someone that appears to align with people that make racist and homophobic comments and does not call them on it. I do stress "appears" because we don't know if the Scorp calls them out or not.
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For someone with a Venus in Sag you come across as quite the opposite of that.

Like the opposite of what?
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Well Venus in Sag. As you pointed out, it's open to new experiences and it is in fact well known for this---however I am learning that generic astrological descriptions don't mean very much without the rest of the chart, so I found it curious that you were saying (or pointing out) your Venus makes you open to learning and having new experiences, while demonstrating the opposite in your post. You may very well be (open to new experiences), however based on how you've written the OP you seem to avoid new experiences. I share your Venus and love to try new things all the time. Some aren't my jam, some surprise me and I enjoyed a great deal. My point is I will at least try it once (as long as it doesn't involve heights or potential death lol). 96% of the time I'm thinking "naw.....I don't see it, but okay let see where this goes."

The things the Scorp invited you to have you at least tried them once? I understand you had to pass for legit reasons, but prior to declining, did you at least try before determining it's not you cup of tea? You don't need to fake the funk, if you don't like it you can say so, but someone that is open, is exactly that, open.
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Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

What is she asking you do, some voyeuristic or taboo kink? What could possibly make you feel "very uneasy"? Now I'm curious.

Just orgies with sheep.😛

Nooo, just riding around in american cars in a show-off way while playing music that I reeeally don't like. (Sorry, I don't know the English word for it.) I'm just not one to do show off in that way. I've been on stage, but that's a whole different thing to me. And those stores that I wrote about in the beginning of the OP...I can't stand them. I just want to disappear. So, is there something wrong with her or her interests? Not at all. Is there something wrong with me? Yup. Apparently.

And I can't make myself bother someone for a selfie because they've been on Big Brother or acted in some movie. I'm normally not easily embarrassed, but that would make me very embarrassed.
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Lol. Okay, well you have a sense of humour, which is a plus. No I wouldn't say there is something wrong with you just because you don't like the stuff you described. Either way, it can't be all that bad since you two can find things to talk about for hours and she clearly reaches out to you. She wouldn't if she didn't see value in your time together.

I wouldn't worry too much about the "doing" as "being" (aka spending time/quality time spent) with a Scorp tends to have more of an impact.
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As a clarification, I should probably add that when I wrote cringe, I was trying to describe my feeling when I think of participating and I would definitely not call the very activities cringe. Not sure if I used the wrong word. Can't find one to replace it atm, though. Hmm. Lemme think about that. It's about four in the morning here.🙂

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Training I do with one friend and she would not be interested in that anyway, so... This friend is also the one I usually go to concerts with and the scorpio and I have not at all the same taste in music.

With one group of friends who I met at uni, we discuss things we learned there. She would probably feel left out.

Travelling is not of any huge interest to her.

And then I have interests that I do alone.

So, I don't know what that would be. I do invite her to those one-on-ones, because that, I feel, really works and I hope she agrees.

You don't know until you ask/include her. The training and uni cirlce probably not given the focus is unique to your circle. However, with the other stuff like travelling and your personal interests (unless you prefer to do them alone), you won't know unless you ask. I have a good friend that DJs and he assumed for years that I wouldn't enjoy going to a set. Funny thing is I LOVE music and really enjoy dancing. Once he realized this (while we happened to be talking about something else one day) I was always invited to one of his sets and we have a lot of fun. I even MC'd for him once which I loved doing.
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The unbelievable things I have read are excerpts from interviews and things they have written themselves on different social media and that the scorpio has shown to me. I have just pointed at certain things they have written that I felt were huge red flags and had nothing to do with the scorpio's person at all, such as racist and homofobic comments and some sentences that only a true narcissist could possibly write. I don't have an example right now, but omg and wow

Okay. Well, again my statement stands. The only time I would recommend regarding these acquaintances (because let's be real, they aren't friends), is if they're behaviours/world view cross your boundaries then make that clear to her and she won't invite you out with them anymore. Not to exclude you, but to respect your feelings regarding your desire to keep your distance.

As an aside, you may want to be mindful of someone that appears to align with people that make racist and homophobic comments and does not call them on it. I do stress "appears" because we don't know if the Scorp calls them out or not.
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Years ago, I asked her if she wanted to come along on a trip to Budapest with a few other collegues and she said she wasn't much of a traveller, so I haven't asked her since. The things I do alone, I really do prefer to do alone. I'm talking writing and singing and things like that. And I like to go on nightly walks, again, alone. Love the story about your DJ friend! ...which also reminded me that I also love to go out dancing, but since covid...well, not that much.

Oh, they are definitely not her friends, which is why I used quotation marks, and the only reason why I called them that is because she does...for some unknown reason. I should probably really stay away from those events; I can't be in the vicinity of people like that without reacting hard. Now, I'm very happy to live where I live when it comes to that, because the tolerance level for such things is very low here, so I wouldn't be alone in informing them of just what I think of those statements, but even so...

Absolutely. When I have commented on the statements we read, her reply has been that they can't possibly have meant it that way...which I am pretty darn sure they did. So either she says that to not inform me of her true feelings about those things since she is very well informed about mine or she just doesn't want to believe it's true. What keeps me optimistic is that we have encountered several situations at work that makes me think that the latter would apply. That and something in her personal life. So, I think she just doesn't want to see and gives them a ginormous amount of benefit of a doubt.
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Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

What is she asking you do, some voyeuristic or taboo kink? What could possibly make you feel "very uneasy"? Now I'm curious.

Just orgies with sheep.😛

Nooo, just riding around in american cars in a show-off way while playing music that I reeeally don't like. (Sorry, I don't know the English word for it.) I'm just not one to do show off in that way. I've been on stage, but that's a whole different thing to me. And those stores that I wrote about in the beginning of the OP...I can't stand them. I just want to disappear. So, is there something wrong with her or her interests? Not at all. Is there something wrong with me? Yup. Apparently.

And I can't make myself bother someone for a selfie because they've been on Big Brother or acted in some movie. I'm normally not easily embarrassed, but that would make me very embarrassed.
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As a Cap, I totally get this. Being stuck in cars that drive around and play loud, bad music is really a Cap nightmare lol. Yeah, none of that sounds like fun to me either. Seems like you'd rather do something interesting and fun while possibly learning something rather than making the scene or doing something that seems predictable or surface level.
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For someone with a Venus in Sag you come across as quite the opposite of that.

Like the opposite of what?

Well Venus in Sag. As you pointed out, it's open to new experiences and it is in fact well known for this---however I am learning that generic astrological descriptions don't mean very much without the rest of the chart, so I found it curious that you were saying (or pointing out) your Venus makes you open to learning and having new experiences, while demonstrating the opposite in your post. You may very well be (open to new experiences), however based on how you've written the OP you seem to avoid new experiences. I share your Venus and love to try new things all the time. Some aren't my jam, some surprise me and I enjoyed a great deal. My point is I will at least try it once (as long as it doesn't involve heights or potential death lol). 96% of the time I'm thinking "naw.....I don't see it, but okay let see where this goes."

The things the Scorp invited you to have you at least tried them once? I understand you had to pass for legit reasons, but prior to declining, did you at least try before determining it's not you cup of tea? You don't need to fake the funk, if you don't like it you can say so, but someone that is open, is exactly that, open.
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7th house opposite moon and sqare pluto. Yes, the OP does seem to contradict that, but it is true: I actually am open to most things (which my sun doesn't always agree with), but there are a few things that really makes me...cringe? (still don't know if that's the right word). That store I have been to before and I hated it intensely. The car thing I did once when I was a teenager and I was very confused the whole trip. They just drove round and round and round the town, seemingly endlessly and I didn't know what to do - I was just sitting there, feeling hugely awkward and judged for not knowing what to do and hit on by a guy about twice my age. When I think about it, I guess that might be the reason.
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Years ago, I asked her if she wanted to come along on a trip to Budapest with a few other collegues and she said she wasn't much of a traveller, so I haven't asked her since. The things I do alone, I really do prefer to do alone. I'm talking writing and singing and things like that. And I like to go on nightly walks, again, alone. Love the story about your DJ friend! ...which also reminded me that I also love to go out dancing, but since covid...well, not that much.

Yeah the Rona sucked the life out of the few pleasures we have. My friend like many others does live streams so I show my support that way and dance in my living or kitchen while cooking.

Your hobbies/interest sounds great! I can appreciate the desire to do this stuff alone. Have you ever performed or shared your voice with others? I am just curious at this point lol. Not suggesting you share this with the Scorp.
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Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

What is she asking you do, some voyeuristic or taboo kink? What could possibly make you feel "very uneasy"? Now I'm curious.

Just orgies with sheep.😛

Nooo, just riding around in american cars in a show-off way while playing music that I reeeally don't like. (Sorry, I don't know the English word for it.) I'm just not one to do show off in that way. I've been on stage, but that's a whole different thing to me. And those stores that I wrote about in the beginning of the OP...I can't stand them. I just want to disappear. So, is there something wrong with her or her interests? Not at all. Is there something wrong with me? Yup. Apparently.

And I can't make myself bother someone for a selfie because they've been on Big Brother or acted in some movie. I'm normally not easily embarrassed, but that would make me very embarrassed.

Lol. Okay, well you have a sense of humour, which is a plus. No I wouldn't say there is something wrong with you just because you don't like the stuff you described. Either way, it can't be all that bad since you two can find things to talk about for hours and she clearly reaches out to you. She wouldn't if she didn't see value in your time together.

I wouldn't worry too much about the "doing" as "being" (aka spending time/quality time spent) with a Scorp tends to have more of an impact.
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Well, I do think I'm kind of overreacting - it's not exactly climbing Mount Everest. I guess I'm just weird sometimes.🙂

It's definitely not bad, imo, and my goal is to keep it that way, which is why I brought this up. She's a good friend and that's too valueble to throw away.🙂
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Fake was not what I intended here. I just wanted to signal to her that I'm really trying and not just shrugging my shoulders at her interests. Since they are my friend's interests they are important to me, but participating would make me feel very uneasy. I just don't want her to think that I don't care.

What is she asking you do, some voyeuristic or taboo kink? What could possibly make you feel "very uneasy"? Now I'm curious.

Just orgies with sheep.😛

Nooo, just riding around in american cars in a show-off way while playing music that I reeeally don't like. (Sorry, I don't know the English word for it.) I'm just not one to do show off in that way. I've been on stage, but that's a whole different thing to me. And those stores that I wrote about in the beginning of the OP...I can't stand them. I just want to disappear. So, is there something wrong with her or her interests? Not at all. Is there something wrong with me? Yup. Apparently.

And I can't make myself bother someone for a selfie because they've been on Big Brother or acted in some movie. I'm normally not easily embarrassed, but that would make me very embarrassed.

As a Cap, I totally get this. Being stuck in cars that drive around and play loud, bad music is really a Cap nightmare lol. Yeah, none of that sounds like fun to me either. Seems like you'd rather do something interesting and fun while possibly learning something rather than making the scene or doing something that seems predictable or surface level.
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Very much so!🙂
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She chooses to go to those events and since it doesn't interests you, your view of her other friends might be influenced by that.

Scorpio women are pretty aware of their environment. The type of interaction she has with her other friends fulfills her on a level that might not be obvious to you. Scorpios will not engage with just about any group unless there's benefit to it.

Focus on your friendship with her because once you meddle with her other relationships, it might cause problems between you two. If she hasn't confided any problems with you about them, it's best to keep your opinions to yourself. Compromise from time to time with the type of activities to engage in.


It's actually the other way around. Those events don't interest me because of her "friends" (observe the quotation marks).

The interaction she has with her real friends - they seem all to be good people - seems to be really healthy, but those other people on those events... You're quite right: the way that fulfills her is definitely not obvious to me.

Don't know that I do much or any meddling. I believe you're right in saying that that is probably a bad idea.

I'd love to compromise if I could just figure out a way to do that without hating e-v-e-r-y second of it. I don't think I would be very good company during above options.🙂
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Years ago, I asked her if she wanted to come along on a trip to Budapest with a few other collegues and she said she wasn't much of a traveller, so I haven't asked her since. The things I do alone, I really do prefer to do alone. I'm talking writing and singing and things like that. And I like to go on nightly walks, again, alone. Love the story about your DJ friend! ...which also reminded me that I also love to go out dancing, but since covid...well, not that much.

Yeah the Rona sucked the life out of the few pleasures we have. My friend like many others does live streams so I show my support that way and dance in my living or kitchen while cooking.

Your hobbies/interest sounds great! I can appreciate the desire to do this stuff alone. Have you ever performed or shared your voice with others? I am just curious at this point lol. Not suggesting you share this with the Scorp.
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Oh yes. *sighs* Can your friend make a living out of that? I imagine professions like that one have really suffered the times. The dancing I do in my livingroom/kitchen is really great, btw! (...in my own head...)

Yes, I have performed and been recorded, but not at all in a big way.
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Personally I don’t see anything wrong here idk how you came off judgy to some people lol.

She is a work friend first and foremost. Yes, you two are close, but she’s just a work friend lol. You do not need to be into everything she is to make things work.

I’m sure by now she’s realized that you prefer intimate one on one engagements more than whatever tf she gets into with her weirdo celebs.

My best friends friend group is very... different to me. Extremely. I prefer to just hang out with her but sometimes i cannot get around it. Are her friends bad? No. They simply have extremely different backgrounds to me to where meshing together and finding common ground can be difficult.

Not everyone is meant to be your cup of tea in life. DONT change yourself for someone else.

You are okay Capricorn. I’m sure she prefers having your company in any way she can. She will take what you give. If it really bothers you, just talk to her about it. (But it wouldn’t hurt to join her one day,

It may surprise you)
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Posted by ImperfectStormSince I have turned down every single event she has invited me to so far, except for tea or drinks one-on-one (and those types of meetings, I have also instigated), I feel like I should just clench my teeth and join her next time she asks me to do somethin

Yeah, DON’T do that.

The last thing a Scorpio woman wants you to do is be fake.

You don’t have to have common interests, and you don’t have to agree with what she does at her leisure. Everything you posted here is merely your opinion, which is seems like you had preconceived notions about all of this, so it is unlikely that she would ever be able to change your mind anyway.

She doesn’t need a sidekick so she doesn’t need you to go to the events with her. But your opinions come across as very judgy and almost... bitter? Just live and let live. She is probably more intuitive than you, so don’t worry.... if she is being used, she will catch on if she hasn’t already. She might even be playing right into it at this point. Scorpios are chameleons.

In summary, don’t worry about your scorp, and don’t try to force yourself into her social circle if that’s not your thing. She will (and has) accept you either way. You don’t need to have a lot in common, open communication is rare enough to find these days, so I’m sure that’s more than enough for her.

This ^^^^

You dont have to be anyone else but yourself.

I prefer that over anything else.

We know some of our friends are more extroverted than others and there is no agenda to force you to do anything you don't want to.

I value my one on one friends very much.
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Thank you!🙂

It's not about trying to be someone else or introversion/extroversion, though. It's about making an effort and show that I care. It's just that our interests differ a lot.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with her interests, they are just reeeally not my thing. But she has asked me so many times now, that I'm starting to feel like a bad friend...although my reasons for saying no have been legit this entire time, what do I say next time she asks?

I guess I'll just sit her down and have the conversation if/when she asks me again - I just don't want to come off as judging her, because I don't, but that fear is even more enhanced now since I seem to have come off as judgy to some people here, which was not my intention. I'm guessing it would be easier to get my true feelings through in person, though, and hopefully, she knows me well enough to be able to tell. But I don't know.
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FFS

Just take her for a walk or somethin', for a bit of variety.

Also --from introvert to introvert-- there is nothing wrong with taking on a challenge, once in a while. It helps you develop and maintain skills that could become useful someday...like small talk, listening and tolerance, for example.


We've taken lots of walks, which I have enjoyed.🙂

It seems like I'm really coming off as not wanting to do anything and being afraid to take on challenges, but I'm really not like that and she and my other friends know this. Am I an introvert? Sure, but I do have an extroverted side to me and I love experiencing and learning things.

My friend groups are very different and I have tried all their interests over the years (at least I can't think of anything I haven't tried atm) Anything from powerlifting and rock climbing to bridge and chess, scuba-diving, dancing and different kinds of music. Some things I kept on doing, some not, but I did try all of it. It's just that her interests actually makes me feel uncomfortable doing, for some reason. I have done all of the activities before and hated them all with a passion.

As for clarification, I don't have a problem with mingling with people per se (gem asc - I wield smalltalk like a champ. I may not love it, but I can do it.), so those events I don't want to attend because of some of the people there, who I believe I called narcissistic douchebags in the OP, and I stand by that.

Thanks for your input!🙂
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Personally I don’t see anything wrong here idk how you came off judgy to some people lol.

She is a work friend first and foremost. Yes, you two are close, but she’s just a work friend lol. You do not need to be into everything she is to make things work.

I’m sure by now she’s realized that you prefer intimate one on one engagements more than whatever tf she gets into with her weirdo celebs.

My best friends friend group is very... different to me. Extremely. I prefer to just hang out with her but sometimes i cannot get around it. Are her friends bad? No. They simply have extremely different backgrounds to me to where meshing together and finding common ground can be difficult.

Not everyone is meant to be your cup of tea in life. DONT change yourself for someone else.

You are okay Capricorn. I’m sure she prefers having your company in any way she can. She will take what you give. If it really bothers you, just talk to her about it. (But it wouldn’t hurt to join her one day,

It may surprise you)


Sooo happy I don't come off as judgy to you, because one of my fears is that she will think I'm judging her. I hope she knows me well enough to know that I'm not, but I don't know.

The celebs are not people I would call her friends. I only call them that because she does, for some reason. Her real friends seem great! The problem I have with some of these celebs (not all!) is not just that we're different, but that I actually dislike them based on what I have read and that they have written themselves. I tend to clash hugely with racist, homofobic and narcissistic people.

At times, I have had discissions with people with those views to try to understand how their minds work, but I'd rather not involve myself with them more than necessary.

Her other interests, I have tried a long time ago before I knew her and I felt really uncomfortable doing it.

Yes, you're right, I should probably sit her down and talk to her about it next time she asks.

Have you and your best friend been friends long? How do you all handle it? Do you think your friend feels torn?

Thanks for your input!🙂
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I like that my Scorpio and Sag friends bring me out of myself, meaning I dont always share the same interests but I share that time with my friend bc they enjoy it and I enjoy them. I don’t always step outside my comfort zone, but I make a point to sometimes for my loved ones. As long as they enjoy themselves, I enjoy myself some too.


That's great! Thanks for sharing!🙂
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.


Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?
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I think I know what youre talking about. The best friend I ever had, had the same hobby. I wasn't into it because I mean theyre just people but anyway, she ended up getting me the best gift I've ever gotten through doing that.

Moving on, my advice is to not marry anyone with any expensive hobbies and to also hit the gym. What was the question?


Interesting. What gift was that, if I may ask.

Depends if they can afford it, imo.🙂 Yup.🙂 The question? Idk, something about...idk...potatoes? 😛
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Is she really always the one to extend an invite? I hope you invite her to things too. Don’t make her do all the heavy lifting in this friendship


No, I have instigated several one-on-ones, but no other activity (lately, at least. I suggested she accompany some collegues and me on a trip abroad once and I've asked her to join a group of friends and me to a concert, but she's not much into travelling and our music tastes are nooooot compatible - I know that now.) since I really don't know what that would be. We have really different views of what is fun to do.

When it comes to who's doing the heaviest lifting, I don't like to compare, since I believe that goes in waves in any realationship. Over time (long time), it should feel like both has given at least somewhat equal effort in the relationship, though, imo. When it comes to ours, however, I do think it's pretty balanced, actually.
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.

Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?
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I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of but my Venus and Saturn are the only water signs in my chart.
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.

Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?

I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of but my Venus and Saturn are the only water signs in my chart.
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Thank you! With your combo of personal planets, I thought it would be interesting how a water singleton, and especially venus, would work in your chart. It is as I think you guessed: a water singleton is if you have precisely one planet in the water element...as I understand it.🙂
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.

Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?

I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of but my Venus and Saturn are the only water signs in my chart.

Thank you! With your combo of personal planets, I thought it would be interesting how a water singleton, and especially venus, would work in your chart. It is as I think you guessed: a water singleton is if you have precisely one planet in the water element...as I understand it.🙂
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I see. Other than my ascendant I have no earth in my chart. I'm not even sure I have a Virgo Asc some say I do others say Leo so I don't know for sure.
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.

Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?

I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of but my Venus and Saturn are the only water signs in my chart.

Thank you! With your combo of personal planets, I thought it would be interesting how a water singleton, and especially venus, would work in your chart. It is as I think you guessed: a water singleton is if you have precisely one planet in the water element...as I understand it.🙂

I see. Other than my ascendant I have no earth in my chart. I'm not even sure I have a Virgo Asc some say I do others say Leo so I don't know for sure.
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Aaah. Does that mean you don't have a correct birthtime or birthplace?
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.

Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?

I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of but my Venus and Saturn are the only water signs in my chart.

Thank you! With your combo of personal planets, I thought it would be interesting how a water singleton, and especially venus, would work in your chart. It is as I think you guessed: a water singleton is if you have precisely one planet in the water element...as I understand it.🙂

I see. Other than my ascendant I have no earth in my chart. I'm not even sure I have a Virgo Asc some say I do others say Leo so I don't know for sure.

Aaah. Does that mean you don't have a correct birthtime or birthplace?
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No. I do have the correct time and place but astrology sites give me different results for Ascendant.
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Truthfully, if you never attend any of the Scorpio's events, she doesn't miss you anyway. So if you don't like her friends just do as you have been doing and don't go. Spend your time one on one with her and just be yourself.

Hope so. But she has kept up asking many times. Yes, I guess I will have to sit her down and have that discussion - tell her that it wouldn't be a good idea.

I actually have an astrology question for you, if you don't mind. Is your venus a water singleton?

I'm not familiar with what you are speaking of but my Venus and Saturn are the only water signs in my chart.

Thank you! With your combo of personal planets, I thought it would be interesting how a water singleton, and especially venus, would work in your chart. It is as I think you guessed: a water singleton is if you have precisely one planet in the water element...as I understand it.🙂

I see. Other than my ascendant I have no earth in my chart. I'm not even sure I have a Virgo Asc some say I do others say Leo so I don't know for sure.

Aaah. Does that mean you don't have a correct birthtime or birthplace?

No. I do have the correct time and place but astrology sites give me different results for Ascendant.
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Ouch! If I were you, I would go to astro.com and get your chart. They seem reliable.