Hello all, I am looking for some advice that could possibly set my mind at ease. My Scorpio wife and I have been together for several years but lately she seems to be filling her time with other things. She's frequently out of the house for hours on end without really communicating while she's gone. It's like she'd rather be somewhere else, and when she is home she is on her phone a lot. I don't think she's cheating or anything like that, as she's a good woman and very loyal. But I get the feeling that she just doesn't want to be with me anymore, and I am just filling a role in her life like everyone else. I honestly feel like if I disappeared it wouldn't affect her for very long, she could find someone to be what I am to her. It's very distressing to me, and when I approach her about it she brushes it off and doesn't really think it's an issue. I'm a Leo, so I do want to feel important, although I think most people in a relationship want to feel that way regardless of sign. I am very emotional, and I obviously care for her deeply. I have always given her space and freedom to do what she wishes, and before recently she almost always chose to spend that time with me. Things are different now and I can't put my finger on it, and speaking to her directly hasn't gotten me any closer to an answer. Hopefully one of you Scorpios has some insight into what she's thinking!
Scorpio wife won't stick around?
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I'm Scorpio rising/Aries sun and I was exactly like this with my sons dad when I wasn't happy in the relationship anymore. It wasn't anything he did in particular I just didn't love him the same as before. I suppose not IN love anymore.
I wasn't cheating I just didn't want to be around him anymore because we would argue over silly things and it became exhausting.
Maybe it's just a phase. Hopefully it'll just work itself out.
I wasn't cheating I just didn't want to be around him anymore because we would argue over silly things and it became exhausting.
Maybe it's just a phase. Hopefully it'll just work itself out.
Well I did ask her directly if she's bored with me or if I've just worn her down over time and she swears it's not like that. However, she's like a computer in the fact that I have to ask specific things in order to get answers. I didn't ask her if she doesn't love me the same, so maybe that will be the next road I take. It's a difficult one though, as she's insulted easily when I question her feelings about anything. Thank you for the reply!

Good luck. Two fixed signs in a relationship like this? Pfft.
The fact that she's being selfish and shrugging off your concerns says a lot about her mentality. How freaking rude.
The fact that she's being selfish and shrugging off your concerns says a lot about her mentality. How freaking rude.

she's checked out emotionally you need to go to marriage counseling. When we are inlove we want to be around the person 24/7 and very physical. If you guys haven't had sex in awhile yup her mind is somewhere else. She sounds bad at communicating avoiding the problem.

Posted by ScorpiosHarmony
I feel like there's a lot more to the story.
+1
OP, Asking the same question a different way will get you no where. Scorps pick up on side way approaches like no other. Pushing an issue may also become irritating if she feels she's addressed it already. Instead, plan an evening where you can just "be" together and enjoy each other's company. Start from there and then you begin communicating again to get that connection going again.
I don't feel it would be appropriate to offer any more advice without knowing what the real issue is. Something is missing and you're either leaving it out or oblivious to it. Either way, you can't really get adequate support if you're not aware of it or refuse to acknowledge what else may be going on.

Posted by Octoberbaby91
When we are inlove we want to be around the person 24/7
-1
I would lose my mind. Have to disagree.
Scorps are not all cut from the same cloth.
To be honest, I'm not an up-front communicator. I have to process things and then figure out how I want to approach her so as to not make the situation worse. She's definitely in control of the relationship, and that's fine with me so long as my emotional needs are taken care of. You can tame the Lion; you just have to keep them happy. Anyway, I'm not trying to make her out to be a bad person, it's just that right now I don't understand what's going on in her head and why she feels the need to roam. She used to play games with her ex-boyfriend and test him by going out to places to see how much attention she would get, but she has never done that with me. Maybe I'm just jealous of the time that I have to share with others, but it's happening more often now than it used to.

Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Octoberbaby91
When we are inlove we want to be around the person 24/7
-1
I would lose my mind. Have to disagree.
Scorps are not all cut from the same cloth.click to expand
I didn't mean that literally......we enjoy being around them a lot but we won't go missing for hours without telling our loved one where we are nor be on our phones ignoring their existence.


Posted by PaLeo
To be honest, I'm not an up-front communicator. I have to process things and then figure out how I want to approach her so as to not make the situation worse. She's definitely in control of the relationship, and that's fine with me so long as my emotional needs are taken care of. You can tame the Lion; you just have to keep them happy. Anyway, I'm not trying to make her out to be a bad person, it's just that right now I don't understand what's going on in her head and why she feels the need to roam. She used to play games with her ex-boyfriend and test him by going out to places to see how much attention she would get, but she has never done that with me. Maybe I'm just jealous of the time that I have to share with others, but it's happening more often now than it used to.
communication is the key to relationships it seems that you both are lacking that. Go to marriage counseling don't wait on her for a few months do it now before she roam "sexually".

Posted by PaLeo
To be honest, I'm not an up-front communicator. I have to process things and then figure out how I want to approach her so as to not make the situation worse. She's definitely in control of the relationship, and that's fine with me so long as my emotional needs are taken care of. You can tame the Lion; you just have to keep them happy. Anyway, I'm not trying to make her out to be a bad person, it's just that right now I don't understand what's going on in her head and why she feels the need to roam. She used to play games with her ex-boyfriend and test him by going out to places to see how much attention she would get, but she has never done that with me. Maybe I'm just jealous of the time that I have to share with others, but it's happening more often now than it used to.
Sounds similar to the ex boyfriend because it seems like that could be the case here. How do you know she's not trying the same with you? Long term relationship, things have gotten comfortable, that honeymoon phase is over, so it's not as exciting, etc.

Posted by PaLeo
To be honest, I'm not an up-front communicator. I have to process things and then figure out how I want to approach her so as to not make the situation worse. She's definitely in control of the relationship, and that's fine with me so long as my emotional needs are taken care of. You can tame the Lion; you just have to keep them happy. Anyway, I'm not trying to make her out to be a bad person, it's just that right now I don't understand what's going on in her head and why she feels the need to roam. She used to play games with her ex-boyfriend and test him by going out to places to see how much attention she would get, but she has never done that with me. Maybe I'm just jealous of the time that I have to share with others, but it's happening more often now than it used to.
You're clearly trying to make a point or going somewhere with mentioning her ex boyfriend---espcially given the fact you're married. So what is it?
I really wish I could tell you more, but maybe I am just oblivious to it. She doesn't like to hear when I feel neglected, mainly because she disagrees and it insults her to think that there's a possible failure on her part. I come from an upbringing of neglect and it weighs on me more than it should, so I try to take that into acocunt. When we have disagreements, she chalks them up as my issues and doesn't really apologize for hurting my feelings. Am I a bit sensitive? Yes. But I feel like a switch has been shut off in her and I really don't have a clue as to why. I do every little thing that she asks of me and more, because I truly want her to be happy. Making her happy makes me happy.
Cancer moon, I just looked that up. I'm not completely familiar with everything astrology quite yet.
Also, I only mentioned the ex because of her previous tendencies, none of which she has displayed with me but that seem possible given her history.
I'm sorry, I don't even know what a chart is.

Ffs...

Posted by e11ePosted by Gemi9Posted by e11e
can you share both of your charts?
The personal planets are the most important (sun, moon, mercury, venus and mars)
Venus seems to be at play here the most.
Sure! There are so many marriages saved by horoscopes and astrology!
This is why 60% of them end up A.S.A.P after 'I Do'.
Because astrology...sucks! In resolving marriage problems.
As entertainment - great! As science - sucks! But fun.
Especially when you want to fool yourself. 'Like he is a Scorpio so
he is must be hiding for 6 month before he will marry me...in Hawaii.
Yucks!
well, astrology worked when it told me you were an asshole....and you turned out to *be* an asshole.click to expand
😄

Posted by Gemi9Posted by deathnirvana
How is the sex ?
Oh, you probably want to know OPs sex how?
Why do you care about other men sexlife?
Geez, I am nervous about you. Do you want some Xanax?
Or better do you have some pot?click to expand
Sounds like you're pissy now that you realize he wasn't asking you lol

You should watch some Corey Wayne Videos
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Posted by e11ePosted by Gemi9Posted by e11ePosted by Gemi9Posted by e11e
can you share both of your charts?
The personal planets are the most important (sun, moon, mercury, venus and mars)
Venus seems to be at play here the most.
Sure! There are so many marriages saved by horoscopes and astrology!
This is why 60% of them end up A.S.A.P after 'I Do'.
Because astrology...sucks! In resolving marriage problems.
As entertainment - great! As science - sucks! But fun.
Especially when you want to fool yourself. 'Like he is a Scorpio so
he is must be hiding for 6 month before he will marry me...in Hawaii.
Yucks!
well, astrology worked when it told me you were an asshole....and you turned out to *be* an asshole.
When IT told you were IT speaking English?
If I read the OP correctly it was not about a crazy trifling married gemini woman sleeping with a married scorpio man.
click to expand
Hahaha 😄

she just want attention ignore her please *rolls eyes

Posted by Gemi9Posted by ErisPosted by Gemi9Posted by deathnirvana
How is the sex ?
Oh, you probably want to know OPs sex how?
Why do you care about other men sexlife?
Geez, I am nervous about you. Do you want some Xanax?
Or better do you have some pot?
Sounds like you're pissy now that you realize he wasn't asking you lol
You want him too? I am not jealous. If he is able - and he must be considering
there is not much in his pretty head - we can always make a deal.
Who is flying him in first? At my age I am sure I will have to pay for
EVERYTHING! Whats your deal?
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Nope... One man gal here! I have a wonderful man I am very happy with.
Keep on sounding slutty... 🙂

Posted by thinktoomuch
... I feel bad for the OP that has to read through al those bullshit-comments, that has got nothing to do with his question. Take it somewhere else?
True that.
Sorry OP!

It's not enough to just try to put up with the weird mentality of scorpio girls. I tell you, I've been there. It's not worth it. They tore you apart and they do it all consciously. They know exactly what they are doing, and they think people deserve that kind of behavior.
Well you don't! Tell her you wont put up with this anymore, either she's gonna tell you what is wrong, or you'll get seriously angry with her. There is no other way with scorpios, this is the only thing they understand. Stop playing her games, cause you are never gonna win this, with just being nice to her.
You have to tell her straight up that she is acting weird and you don't understand why and you cannot guess it, but you can't ignore her strange behavior anymore.
So if she cracks and tell you what it is all about, then you can work on it. If she still refuses to tell anything at all, I would say that the relationship is over. Then she needs to feel the consequences and you will have to ignore her.
So be though with her, but still reasonable and fair.
Well you don't! Tell her you wont put up with this anymore, either she's gonna tell you what is wrong, or you'll get seriously angry with her. There is no other way with scorpios, this is the only thing they understand. Stop playing her games, cause you are never gonna win this, with just being nice to her.
You have to tell her straight up that she is acting weird and you don't understand why and you cannot guess it, but you can't ignore her strange behavior anymore.
So if she cracks and tell you what it is all about, then you can work on it. If she still refuses to tell anything at all, I would say that the relationship is over. Then she needs to feel the consequences and you will have to ignore her.
So be though with her, but still reasonable and fair.

Posted by e11e
Now I know how the scorpio men feel in the scorpio men threads.
*gives all the scorpio men cupcakes*
+1 JFC.
Good luck OP *deuces*.
*snatch a cupcake*
I'm actually enjoying all the other bickering, it's very entertaining! I guess just kind of putting it out in writing for others to see helps a little, I am going to confront her tonight about it. We had a blowup last night over something I built for her, and instead of thanking me for it she berated me for not including her. She had gone out for 'a beer' when I started and didn't come back for 5 hours. Apparently I was supposed to tell her to come help, but when she's gone she doesn't like to be pestered because it feels controlling. She thinks I was trying to teach her a lesson by doing a project without her so she would miss out, but I was again just trying to make her happy.
Also, I am 39 and she's 34...married 2 years, together for 4. Didn't realize this was a mostly teenagers forum!
Also, I am 39 and she's 34...married 2 years, together for 4. Didn't realize this was a mostly teenagers forum!

It isn't a mostly teenagers forum :p
A beer for five hours? And her reason for getting mad hmm...
Yes, confront her!
A beer for five hours? And her reason for getting mad hmm...
Yes, confront her!

Hint hint lol
Ok, I think this is what you wanted...
ME:
Sun 13??06' Leo
Moon 24??39' Cancer
Mercury 18??17' Leo
Venus 11??43' Virgo
Mars 24??31' Taurus
Sun House 5
Moon House 4
Mercury House 5
Venus House 5
Mars House 1
HER:
Sun 22??27' Scorpio
Moon 10??14' Aquarius
Mercury 4??25' Scorpio
Venus 18??28' Libra
Mars 24??25' Sagittarius
Sun House 10
Moon House 1
Mercury House 10
Venus House 9
Mars House 12
ME:
Sun 13??06' Leo
Moon 24??39' Cancer
Mercury 18??17' Leo
Venus 11??43' Virgo
Mars 24??31' Taurus
Sun House 5
Moon House 4
Mercury House 5
Venus House 5
Mars House 1
HER:
Sun 22??27' Scorpio
Moon 10??14' Aquarius
Mercury 4??25' Scorpio
Venus 18??28' Libra
Mars 24??25' Sagittarius
Sun House 10
Moon House 1
Mercury House 10
Venus House 9
Mars House 12
No, she does like to go out for a beer or some wine often. But nothing excessive.


It sounds like she is losing respect for you. I had a scorpio friend who was with a sag for 9 years and when she wasn't happy she would go out and fool around with other guys and go MIA sometimes until the next morning. He didn't care or called to see where she was. She also was on her phone a lot when she was around him. She said she wasn't happy but I guess comfortable to stay around for so long.
Long story short people only do what you allow! Are you calling her multiple times to check on her? What are you doing when she goes missing like that just sit around? You don't sound to concern about where she is if you not investigating who she is with. You are married and it's very disrespectful for her to be out late like that. Sounds like you need to man up and demand some respect.
Long story short people only do what you allow! Are you calling her multiple times to check on her? What are you doing when she goes missing like that just sit around? You don't sound to concern about where she is if you not investigating who she is with. You are married and it's very disrespectful for her to be out late like that. Sounds like you need to man up and demand some respect.

Hmmmm .... too innocent, what's the back story PALeo?
I also find it curious that you mention "taming the lion" yet say later you didn't know what a chart was.
I also find it curious that you mention "taming the lion" yet say later you didn't know what a chart was.

Posted by GobshitePosted by FixedWater
I also find it curious that you mention "taming the lion" yet say later you didn't know what a chart was.
You don't need to known your chart to know your star sign...click to expand
Just loosely commenting on my tingling spidey senses ...

https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/moon-signs/aqua-moons-in-love-4759119/
Hey hey, here's a good little thread that might help clear up one of her (your wife's) aspects...
A few people on DXP have Aqua Moon, so that might be somethin' to squiz at 🙂
Hey hey, here's a good little thread that might help clear up one of her (your wife's) aspects...
A few people on DXP have Aqua Moon, so that might be somethin' to squiz at 🙂

^^^^^^^^ ah, ok.

Posted by PaLeo
Ok, I think this is what you wanted...
ME:
Sun 13??06' Leo
Moon 24??39' Cancer
Mercury 18??17' Leo
Venus 11??43' Virgo
Mars 24??31' Taurus
So close to mine, save that moon.
Eyeing that first house Taurus Mars...
So nice now, but give it time.
You won't be.
Posted by Reincarnation
Call her out.click to expand
+1

Well well well... an Aquarius moon? And Sag mars?? Such a person sure needs their private life. They can be very rude too.
PaLeo you actually strike me as someone very emotionally with that cancer moon, but you do have a virgo venus, which could actually be some of the few people who can handle a very distant person.
I think your scorpio wife is using her time with friends, and maybe not the best friends (anyone you know or like) and that is what she needs right now. She is actually a little provoking towards you, I think she would like a reaction, so that you can talk it through and reach a new solution. She got libra venus, and they go very far in all their relationships to solve any problems. She is most likely not just gonna leave you like that, but she is definitely going as far as she can, until you say stop. This is also a typically aqua moon behavior, she would like to have her freedom to the maximum, and she will rebel against anyone telling her to calm down lol. It's very hard to put up with really.
So, the only thing there is is to confront her, ask her what she is doing and why. Tell her you demand an explanation right now!
PaLeo you actually strike me as someone very emotionally with that cancer moon, but you do have a virgo venus, which could actually be some of the few people who can handle a very distant person.
I think your scorpio wife is using her time with friends, and maybe not the best friends (anyone you know or like) and that is what she needs right now. She is actually a little provoking towards you, I think she would like a reaction, so that you can talk it through and reach a new solution. She got libra venus, and they go very far in all their relationships to solve any problems. She is most likely not just gonna leave you like that, but she is definitely going as far as she can, until you say stop. This is also a typically aqua moon behavior, she would like to have her freedom to the maximum, and she will rebel against anyone telling her to calm down lol. It's very hard to put up with really.
So, the only thing there is is to confront her, ask her what she is doing and why. Tell her you demand an explanation right now!

There's some good comments and questions here from people, e11e had some good points.
The main things that stuck out for me were:
She made an unnecessary issue about you building something without her while she went out. This was her provoking you and it was childish. I'm 34, Scorpio I used to do this ten plus years ago when I wasn't happy in myself. I've still been a bit of an arse over the last few years but now it takes a lot and it builds up. I don't know what it is with your wife but I think e11e might be onto something with the resentment bit. We can find it hard to air our views and the build up can make us passive aggressive. We just expect you to 'know' what the issue is which is, of course, rather unfair.
Your Cancer placements might make you come across to her as emotionally manipulative and/or trying on her patients. I had a Cancer sun ex many years ago and never again! She might see you as whining and whinging, wallowing in your own crap, which might make her think you're 'less of a man'.
Sorry, no offence intended here.
Her chart is very fire/air so she might be less emotional which might not be agreeable with your sun and moon placements. Your Virgo Venus can be a nice placement though. Another ex had that and he loved to be 'of service' as in doing things and taking care of the little things, making special effort, if a trip or day out was planned then he'd make an effort to ensure it was as perfect as can be which is rather rare with many guys, it was nice, kind of in safe hands, so to speak.
Personally, I think you could either just leave her to it, as others have suggested, I'm not as familiar with most of her placements. Alternatively, you could 'man up' and take the bull by the horns and confront and push the subject but not in a defeatist, whining way. For me, I like it when someone pushes or forces a subject I'm uncomfortable with and doesn't give up or accepts my excuses because it makes me deal with it. If it were up to me I'd just leave it as some things are hard to communicate but with persistence and patience I know the other person truly cares.
The main things that stuck out for me were:
She made an unnecessary issue about you building something without her while she went out. This was her provoking you and it was childish. I'm 34, Scorpio I used to do this ten plus years ago when I wasn't happy in myself. I've still been a bit of an arse over the last few years but now it takes a lot and it builds up. I don't know what it is with your wife but I think e11e might be onto something with the resentment bit. We can find it hard to air our views and the build up can make us passive aggressive. We just expect you to 'know' what the issue is which is, of course, rather unfair.
Your Cancer placements might make you come across to her as emotionally manipulative and/or trying on her patients. I had a Cancer sun ex many years ago and never again! She might see you as whining and whinging, wallowing in your own crap, which might make her think you're 'less of a man'.
Sorry, no offence intended here.
Her chart is very fire/air so she might be less emotional which might not be agreeable with your sun and moon placements. Your Virgo Venus can be a nice placement though. Another ex had that and he loved to be 'of service' as in doing things and taking care of the little things, making special effort, if a trip or day out was planned then he'd make an effort to ensure it was as perfect as can be which is rather rare with many guys, it was nice, kind of in safe hands, so to speak.
Personally, I think you could either just leave her to it, as others have suggested, I'm not as familiar with most of her placements. Alternatively, you could 'man up' and take the bull by the horns and confront and push the subject but not in a defeatist, whining way. For me, I like it when someone pushes or forces a subject I'm uncomfortable with and doesn't give up or accepts my excuses because it makes me deal with it. If it were up to me I'd just leave it as some things are hard to communicate but with persistence and patience I know the other person truly cares.

Posted by e11e
It seems she has built up a level of resentment and has detached from you emotionally and is 'going out' so she doesn't have to deal with it at all, surrounding herself with friends, more than likely because she feels they appreciate her more than you do.
Again, not your fault. She is responsible for her actions and how she processes things, not you.
Let me ask a few questions....maybe we can drill it down a little bit to why....
Do you both work?
If so, who does the house chores? Are you really messy? Kind of lazy?
This may seem petty....but it adds up and is taxing on the libra venus.
Is there anything that she has given up over the past two years in order to sustain the marriage? A job? Starting a family? Travel of some kind? Family? Anything? Something she felt pretty passionate about but you talked her out of or maybe told her it wouldn't be a good idea?
Is there anything you may have promised (or many little things you may have promised) and you didn't or wasn't able to follow through?
+1

i have aqua moon, libra venus.
A similar situation happened to me while i was with a capricorn for 9 years, i'm not saying this is the case with your wife but i felt out of love.
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.
But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.
Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.
They go, why have i been giving everything of myself and you can't even reciprocate my needs? Do you even know who i am? Do i stil know who i am?? who am i again? And they need to find out, especially scorpio, they need to be passionate in life.
maybe she's having a transformation period and is searching for herself. That doesn't mean she's bored with you, but she might think you aren't there to grow alongside her? that's why she's going out on her own?
A similar situation happened to me while i was with a capricorn for 9 years, i'm not saying this is the case with your wife but i felt out of love.
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.
But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.
Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.
They go, why have i been giving everything of myself and you can't even reciprocate my needs? Do you even know who i am? Do i stil know who i am?? who am i again? And they need to find out, especially scorpio, they need to be passionate in life.
maybe she's having a transformation period and is searching for herself. That doesn't mean she's bored with you, but she might think you aren't there to grow alongside her? that's why she's going out on her own?
Posted by cosmica
i have aqua moon, libra venus.
A similar situation happened to me while i was with a capricorn for 9 years, i'm not saying this is the case with your wife but i felt out of love.
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.
But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.
Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.
They go, why have i been giving everything of myself and you can't even reciprocate my needs? Do you even know who i am? Do i stil know who i am?? who am i again? And they need to find out, especially scorpio, they need to be passionate in life.
maybe she's having a transformation period and is searching for herself. That doesn't mean she's bored with you, but she might think you aren't there to grow alongside her? that's why she's going out on her own?
this is very contradictory. I mean you know you go giving everything of yourself, and if that's your nature, you enjoy it. Yet on the next sentence, you are questioning yourself why you gave yourself too much away? It should be all the way with no doubts. All this doubting sounds shaky and inconsistent.
Posted by GobshitePosted by cosmica
i have aqua moon, libra venus.
A similar situation happened to me while i was with a capricorn for 9 years, i'm not saying this is the case with your wife but i felt out of love.
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.
But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.
Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.
They go, why have i been giving everything of myself and you can't even reciprocate my needs? Do you even know who i am? Do i stil know who i am?? who am i again? And they need to find out, especially scorpio, they need to be passionate in life.
maybe she's having a transformation period and is searching for herself. That doesn't mean she's bored with you, but she might think you aren't there to grow alongside her? that's why she's going out on her own?
Surely that's a contradiction?
You can't give unconditionally, while secretly placing 'conditions' on those unconditional gestures.click to expand
oh! 😄 😆
gobs caught it!! spot on. 😄

Posted by GobshitePosted by cosmica
i have aqua moon, libra venus.
A similar situation happened to me while i was with a capricorn for 9 years, i'm not saying this is the case with your wife but i felt out of love.
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.
But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.
Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.
They go, why have i been giving everything of myself and you can't even reciprocate my needs? Do you even know who i am? Do i stil know who i am?? who am i again? And they need to find out, especially scorpio, they need to be passionate in life.
maybe she's having a transformation period and is searching for herself. That doesn't mean she's bored with you, but she might think you aren't there to grow alongside her? that's why she's going out on her own?
Surely that's a contradiction?
You can't give unconditionally, while secretly placing 'conditions' on those unconditional gestures.click to expand
well that's my point actually, in my case i was giving unconditionally, but that's no way of living because eventually you will lose who you are if you keep minimizing your own needs for the sake of a relationship.
You jeopordize yourself and then there's not much left to give.
Venus in libra wants to give unconditionally but really it needs balance.
I really appreciate all the input you all have given me! Here are some of the answers to e11e's questions:
Yes, we both work, and I do all the house chores from cleaning and polishing counters and appliances to dishes and laundry. I also do all the kid-related duties (homework, making dinner, bath time, pickup/dropoff at school, etc.) but she's my daughter from a previous marriage so it's been made clear that she's my responsibility. I still fit in all the manly things as well, like building her a deck and refinishing a hot tub to enjoy and rebuilding the engine in her convertible. I'm not some delicate flower, I'm just a regular guy who actually can access his emotions. Anyway, I handle all those things because I want her life to be easy (and I'm good at it). After the day is done she gets treated to a foot massage and I happily tend to her, I treat her like a Goddess. I am sometimes messy but I clean up after myself. She's the messy one, and I find it adorable. And yes, I am kind of lazy sometimes but I've been told by her that it's my perception, she does not think I'm lazy. I'm usually pretty hard on myself. Can I be a moody little pain in the ass? Of course.
As far as giving things up, I can't think of anything that we've had to give up other than a little privacy to my ex-wife, who shares custody with my daughter. She doesn't want her own children and made that clear from the start. We travel quite a bit, no less than two trips per year and we always have a good time. She has had a falling out with her family recently, but she seems happier without them. Maybe that's eating her up inside and she's projecting that toward me?
I don't make promises I can't keep. I make very few of them as a result.
The only thing I can think of that she absolutely loathes about me is that I snore and keep her up at night.
Octoberbaby91: I will text her from time to time just to ask if she's having a good time or to have her say hi to whoever she is with for me (she's usually out with mutual friends) but to be honest, it hurts me that she schedules going out around the times where I can't be with her. So my communication is probably less, and I fill my time without her by writing and playing music or building something. In the few times that I go out without her, (like a total of 3 times in 4 years) she is very cold for the next 3 days. She's very possessive, but doesn't want the same treatment. She has trust issues, none of which I've given her.
I do
Yes, we both work, and I do all the house chores from cleaning and polishing counters and appliances to dishes and laundry. I also do all the kid-related duties (homework, making dinner, bath time, pickup/dropoff at school, etc.) but she's my daughter from a previous marriage so it's been made clear that she's my responsibility. I still fit in all the manly things as well, like building her a deck and refinishing a hot tub to enjoy and rebuilding the engine in her convertible. I'm not some delicate flower, I'm just a regular guy who actually can access his emotions. Anyway, I handle all those things because I want her life to be easy (and I'm good at it). After the day is done she gets treated to a foot massage and I happily tend to her, I treat her like a Goddess. I am sometimes messy but I clean up after myself. She's the messy one, and I find it adorable. And yes, I am kind of lazy sometimes but I've been told by her that it's my perception, she does not think I'm lazy. I'm usually pretty hard on myself. Can I be a moody little pain in the ass? Of course.
As far as giving things up, I can't think of anything that we've had to give up other than a little privacy to my ex-wife, who shares custody with my daughter. She doesn't want her own children and made that clear from the start. We travel quite a bit, no less than two trips per year and we always have a good time. She has had a falling out with her family recently, but she seems happier without them. Maybe that's eating her up inside and she's projecting that toward me?
I don't make promises I can't keep. I make very few of them as a result.
The only thing I can think of that she absolutely loathes about me is that I snore and keep her up at night.
Octoberbaby91: I will text her from time to time just to ask if she's having a good time or to have her say hi to whoever she is with for me (she's usually out with mutual friends) but to be honest, it hurts me that she schedules going out around the times where I can't be with her. So my communication is probably less, and I fill my time without her by writing and playing music or building something. In the few times that I go out without her, (like a total of 3 times in 4 years) she is very cold for the next 3 days. She's very possessive, but doesn't want the same treatment. She has trust issues, none of which I've given her.
I do
Please disregard the 'I do' at the end, I was starting to type another sentence and left it out. I didn't want anyone to think I have trust issues with myself lol.
Posted by e11ePosted by PaLeo
I do all the house chores from cleaning and polishing counters and appliances to dishes and laundry.
I also do all the kid-related duties (homework, making dinner, bath time, pickup/dropoff at school, etc.) but she's my daughter from a previous marriage so it's been made clear that she's my responsibility.
I still fit in all the manly things as well, like building her a deck and refinishing a hot tub to enjoy and rebuilding the engine in her convertible.
I handle all those things because I want her life to be easy (and I'm good at it)
After the day is done she gets treated to a foot massage and I happily tend to her, I treat her like a Goddess.
We travel quite a bit, no less than two trips per year and we always have a good time.
come on, man...I realise you are a leo but ffs.....you painted a perfect life up there ^^^^^ and I'm sorry, nobody has a perfect life.click to expand
lol
it is too much!! 😄
Posted by cosmicaPosted by GobshitePosted by cosmica
i have aqua moon, libra venus.
A similar situation happened to me while i was with a capricorn for 9 years, i'm not saying this is the case with your wife but i felt out of love.
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.
But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.
Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.
They go, why have i been giving everything of myself and you can't even reciprocate my needs? Do you even know who i am? Do i stil know who i am?? who am i again? And they need to find out, especially scorpio, they need to be passionate in life.
maybe she's having a transformation period and is searching for herself. That doesn't mean she's bored with you, but she might think you aren't there to grow alongside her? that's why she's going out on her own?
Surely that's a contradiction?
You can't give unconditionally, while secretly placing 'conditions' on those unconditional gestures.
well that's my point actually, in my case i was giving unconditionally, but that's no way of living because eventually you will lose who you are if you keep minimizing your own needs for the sake of a relationship.
You jeopordize yourself and then there's not much left to give.
Venus in libra wants to give unconditionally but really it needs balance.click to expand
what kind of thinking is this— it's like a checks and balances. that's not love. you give without thinking what you're getting back. when you're Always thinking of getting "back , you are acting out like a business- arrangement.
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