Scorpio wife won't stick around? (Page 2)

kind of like a bank, looking for investment and interests. Hmmm.

I guess the dirt was all from my first marriage, I'm not perfect - like I said, I can be an emotional baby - but I really do try my best to make sure she's happy. Probably a touch of OCD, but overall that's what I do. I got a trial run in my first marriage of 10 years to figure out what not to do as a husband.

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Posted by cosmica
Libra venus loves giving everything to balance out a relationship, and they won't expect nothing in return. You are the sun to their solar system.

But they can sometimes lose their selves in a relationship because they tend to minimize their own needs if they aren't met by their partners. They do this for the good of the whole relationship / to avoid conflict. This can go on for years.

Then all of a sudden they get irritated when their own needs aren't met.

this is very contradictory. I mean you know you go giving everything of yourself, and if that's your nature, you enjoy it. Yet on the next sentence, you are questioning yourself why you gave yourself too much away? It should be all the way with no doubts. All this doubting sounds shaky and inconsistent.

It's not contradictory. We just need others to meet us half way. If someone doesn't meet you half way...wouldn't you eventually become irritated? It's not even half way *all* the time because nobody wants to keep score....however, if a pattern starts to expose itself, what is the venus libra expected to do? bitch, whine, moan, emasculate, throw a fit? I'm assuming we are working with grown people here.

Perhaps I just think my partner is supposed to know that threshold?....shame on me. It's not like I go out of my way, as a venus in libra, to learn my partners tolerance levels (that was sarcasm)

Sure, we may go a little too far in some cases with the 'doing' (hence being called a doormat often) and we are never expecting others to go *as* far....but half way is always more than fair and acceptable.

It's all about balance. If things become unbalanced...it's like vertigo.

I've learned that unconditional is a bad word....you are damned if you do and damned if you stop.

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that's probably why it's an "air" venus because it thinks on the level of this idealized relationship.

this may be another good site for libra venus ladies

http://astrophilosophy.tumblr.com/post/49470075876/venus-in-libra<BR> Women:
Women with Venus in Libra tend to be very cool, relaxed, and charming. They are born socialites and usually have lots of friends. They are charmers who want everyone to like them. They are very fashionable and often dress in high end designer fashions. They are always trying new looks and different styles. They are usually excellent dressers who understand and love symmetry and balance in their outfits. They often experiment with geometry and proportions. They are always trendsetters ahead of the curve with their fashion sense. They usually have great butts and may dress in a way that draws attention to their ass. Sometimes though, they rely to much on trends and don't have their own personal style. They can make awful fashion mistakes and wear clothes that don't necessarily flatter them.

They love parties. They love talking to people and socializing. They are obsessed with beauty and harmony and they always want things to look pretty. They love the fun side of party planning like decorating and catering. They love themed parties.

They are always peacemaking and beautifying. Their friends often go to them when they are having conflict. They always offer good advice. They always try to be fair and see both sides of the conflict and they do their best to help resolve it.

They can be a bit of a drama starter though. They LOVE drama. They love watching it and being involved in it. It could be that they will subtly instigate dramatic situations just so they can play the peacemaker later on making everyone like them. They are OBSESSED with being liked. If you want to drive a woman with Venus in Libra crazy, act like you don't like her. They will go crazy trying to please, impress, and charm anyone who they think doesn't like them.

Women with Venus in Libra are probably the most dependent of any of the Venus signs. They are often the types who simply HAVE to be in a relationship. They feel defective and useless when they don't have a boyfriend/romantic partner. They can be incredibly needy. They often don't know how to function when they are single, hating it, and pitying anyone who is not in a relationship. As a result they frequently try to play matchmaker with their friends. They can't stand to see anyone single. It just doesn't make sense to them.

They are usually very d

Posted by PaLeo
I guess the dirt was all from my first marriage, I'm not perfect - like I said, I can be an emotional baby - but I really do try my best to make sure she's happy. Probably a touch of OCD, but overall that's what I do. I got a trial run in my first marriage of 10 years to figure out what not to do as a husband.

And what does she do to make sure you are happy?

What exactly are her contributions to this relationship and home for that matter?

You're right, I may be doing too much. She seems to enjoy it though, and I've had no complaints. I try to treat her like my Goddess, and all I ask in return is for her to love me. Like I said, things have been amazing with us, just lately there's a lot of going out without me. Maybe she needs some space? I don't expect her to dote on me, but when she's out I would just like a little communication. Like 'hey, I may be out longer than I expected, but when I get home I want to see you.' instead of me waiting for a text and then finally going to bed when she never shows up. I know the world doesn't revolve around me, but I don't think I'm asking too much.

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I've still been a bit of an arse over the last few years but now it takes a lot and it builds up. I don't know what it is with your wife but I think e11e might be onto something with the resentment bit. We can find it hard to air our views and the build up can make us passive aggressive. We just expect you to 'know' what the issue is which is, of course, rather unfair.

It's more than unfair - it's both counter-productive and immature.

No partner should choose to wait until boiling point to air their concerns, whatever the excuse, as that will simply cause resentment in the other partner. What's the point in both partners becoming resentful of each other, when one of them had the chance to nip the issue in the bud?

Good old Scorpio masochism!

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Because not everyone thinks like that or sees it like that. Everyone is different and I think if you're that way inclined to hold onto things rather than to address it then it can take time to learn how to better communicate. Sometimes that time never arrives or you learn it earlier or later in life.

It's like anything, you don't wake up knowing how to do anything and everything in life. Sometimes it just is.

What does she do for me? She's intelligent, adventurous, and loyal. She's a strong role model for my daughter, and that's very important to me. She loves me very much and helped me through some of my darkest times. She's my best friend. She's also smoking hot, which appeals to me in more than one way.

She cooks for me too, and she's an excellent cook. She doesn't always meet my emotional needs, but no one can. I'm impossible to deal with in that respect.

Posted by PaLeo
You're right, I may be doing too much. She seems to enjoy it though, and I've had no complaints. I try to treat her like my Goddess, and all I ask in return is for her to love me. Like I said, things have been amazing with us, just lately there's a lot of going out without me. Maybe she needs some space? I don't expect her to dote on me, but when she's out I would just like a little communication. Like 'hey, I may be out longer than I expected, but when I get home I want to see you.' instead of me waiting for a text and then finally going to bed when she never shows up. I know the world doesn't revolve around me, but I don't think I'm asking too much.

This sounds like a complete gender switch.
I'm inclined to agree with Elle here, sounds like she's lost respect for you and is bored.

Posted by e11e
@lisabeth

That article is pure crap. They took the generic sun sign description of a libra sun and copy/pasted it.

*smh* i guess cafeastrology and maybe a few others (i like Michael Star's descriptions) are the few who get it right.

Posted by e11e
Scorpio women should never be in a position where they are totally dominant in a relationship.

I'm sorry....but I find that to be true.

We will lose all respect for you.

i dont know why, but i agree with this too.

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Posted by e11e
Scorpio women should never be in a position where they are totally dominant in a relationship.

I'm sorry....but I find that to be true.

We will lose all respect for you.

This is very true. Deep inside, they're bored of being dominated and they want just wanna be submissive slaves to a strong, emotionally-secure man.

Yeah, dust down the handcuffs and grab a wooden spatula...

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Pffft .... you sound a lot like another Leo on this board that I know and he is dating my Scorpio Girl/friend. Lol.

What do you do for a living PALeo?

Is she out like everyday ? Do you guys do nothing together ?

whenever relationship patterns or habits are broken in such a way that you are quite taken aback - it is usually (not a very good) sign of some pending drama that will be revealed.

usually it is called a love-triangle and one person in the triangle has no idea what is happening.

people are assholes, wife or not.

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Posted by PaLeo
What does she do for me? She's intelligent, adventurous, and loyal. She's a strong role model for my daughter, and that's very important to me. She loves me very much and helped me through some of my darkest times. She's my best friend. She's also smoking hot, which appeals to me in more than one way.

that's really not doing anything for you though, is it?

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Imo

You're absolutely correct.

It MUST apply to her too.


How many fixed (esp Scorpio/LEO) relationships have

you known about where the attraction was all about

the *effortless harmony* between the two?

Excuse my moon, but the beauty of it lies in the

5th - 8th House dynamic... the (successful) merging

of Life and Death, with all its accompanying sparks

(fire meets water).

THAT is the all-consuming attraction, generally speaking.

A little dramatic admittedly, but I think you know what I mean.


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I manage a small company, so I'm basically making all the decisions and motivating people every day of my work life. I like going home and just not being the boss once in a while. We do things together still, but something's off lately. I pride myself on trying to be a better person/partner, and since she hasn't been really forthcoming when I ask, that's why I came here. I don't claim any of this talk about Aqua moons and all that to be the gospel, but any information I can get to better communicate on her level is definitely useful. You'd think I'd understand Scorpios by now since I also have Scorpio sisters, a stepmother, and a daughter in my life.

Divorce her. Marry me!

I'll appreciate that Venus in Virgo!

Lol, sorry I'm all in. She's going to have to shake me loose, I'm never leaving!

I'm here to vent AND do something. It's not like I'm sitting back and letting things happen, I'm asking her direct questions and trying to get answers. I'm apparently not communicating affectively enough, which is why I'm here.

PS, I know I said it before but I do appreciate everyone's input here. I'm learning a lot!

e11e, so far from what I've learned, I need to give her a little bit of space and maybe not be so smothering/controlling by trying to please her all the time. It does now seem to me like a form of control that I'm doing subconsciously. Maybe I've been a bit too dependent on her for my happiness, when my independence is what likely attracted her to me in the first place. I'm purely speculating of course, but it seems to me that maybe I just need to assert myself more with my own independence, as well as respect hers (within reason).

Posted by deathnirvana
What's good about V in Virgo ? I don't get it.

We put so much effort in making evrything perfect for the one we love, but they don't fking appreciate it or they push us away.

Exactly. But that is not the fault of the person with Virgo Venus. Well perhaps it is for choosing to be with someone who is unappreciative.

My comment is general. Not relating to PaLeo situation or wife.

I know a few guys with Virgo Venus and they all have, IMO, extremely unappreciative wives. The guys moan about it endlessly but do nothing to change it. I think Virgo Venus also likes the security of 'married life' even if it is crap or not what they truly want to have.

So I'm just curious, what else does my chart say about me as a person? Am I a royal pain in the ass to deal with?

Posted by PaLeo
So I'm just curious, what else does my chart say about me as a person? Am I a royal pain in the ass to deal with?

Definitely!

Sorry, couldn't resist that!

WARNING:

*** Leo is looking for attention ***

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AgentP911 Now you sound like my wife!

Posted by PaLeo
AgentP911 Now you sound like my wife!

Ha ha ha!

I'm a little (or a lot) on the sarcastic, humorous side but I mean well.

I wish I was more confident like the 'typical' Leo is. Everything else is pretty much spot on, except for the fact that I HATE talking to people. I don't feel I'm very good at it at all.

Posted by PaLeo
I wish I was more confident like the 'typical' Leo is. Everything else is pretty much spot on, except for the fact that I HATE talking to people. I don't feel I'm very good at it at all.

Find your balls and you'll become confident.

You might find them located in the jar in the bedside draw on your wife's side of the bed...

Oooooh that's harsh... But possibly an element of truth in there...

I have found that Leo women and Leo men seem to be vastly different. At least with the ones that I know.

I am in firm possession of my balls, thank you. I just really like pleasing my woman in every way, is that so bad?

I know you're kidding, anyway. I do have a sense of humor behind all the whiny-ness.

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Posted by e11e
Scorpio women should never be in a position where they are totally dominant in a relationship.

I'm sorry....but I find that to be true.

We will lose all respect for you.

This is very true. Deep inside, they're bored of being dominated and they want just wanna be submissive slaves to a strong, emotionally-secure man.

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+1000 🙂

Posted by PaLeo
e11e, so far from what I've learned, I need to give her a little bit of space and maybe not be so smothering/controlling by trying to please her all the time. It does now seem to me like a form of control that I'm doing subconsciously. Maybe I've been a bit too dependent on her for my happiness, when my independence is what likely attracted her to me in the first place. I'm purely speculating of course, but it seems to me that maybe I just need to assert myself more with my own independence, as well as respect hers (within reason).

Nailed it! Two whole lives then blended together is always best - independence for both is key!!

My wife says I'm the perfect husband, but I don't put too much stock in that - it breeds complacency on both ends. My ex-wife thought the same thing too, but then she got complacent and I walked...I was doing everything in the relationship and getting nothing out of it. I'm honestly not the perfect husband, unless trying to be one counts. I think sometimes I'm too intense though, and it burns people out. I'm really high maintenance emotionally, but everything else is very low maintenance. I'm getting mellower in my old age, so hopefully I'm learning to tone it down. This is the first time I've ever really experienced the astrology side of things, as it was very important to my wife when we met. It's all relatively new to me.

Your suggestion is for me to get crabs? Just kidding. All signs aside, I love my sweet lady dearly. She just confuses me sometimes. Which is why I'm concerned that my relationship with my daughter is going to be absolutely brutal.

Ummmm didn't you think about all this stuff before you married her??

Of course I did! She's the best person for me. Like I said, things are/were fine and I'm just trying to get some insight as to whether I was possibly communicating poorly or not doing the things she needed me to be doing, since she wasn't giving out the information herself through direct questioning. As it was pointed out, I'm probably laying a guilt trip unintentionally.

Maybe I should start a new thread about my daughter...she's 6 going on 16 and we don't see eye-to-eye. She does not like authority. Reminds me a lot of my sister, who I still don't talk to.

Hahaha ok, maybe I won't then. My daughter loves my wife, they are besties. Ex-wife and I are not on good terms, it was a nasty 2-year divorce. I am the disciplinarian in my daughter's life so she views me as the evil one. However, I'm not raising a buddy, I'm raising a woman.

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You're like a 8 and she's like a 6.

dude you underestimate yourself.

What?! Lol

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You're like a 8 and she's like a 6.

dude you underestimate yourself.

LOL

CC living the swirl life.

i only speak the truth. Do all scorpio women look alike. Dang. all got the same eyes, nose, everything

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Really? I don't think I look like her (or that all scorpios look alike) :p

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You're like a 8 and she's like a 6.

dude you underestimate yourself.

What?! Lol

if he was a celebrity he'd get an 8. dimples. Manly features. Ageing nicely. Cancer moon Face.

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That explains my confusion. I think most celebrities are average looking. I don't look at too many celebrities, though.

I do see the soft cancer features. 🙂

Posted by CluelessCancer
She looks like an older version of Satori. All scorpio women look alike.

Maybe I need to look at more scorpio women? Or maybe you're wrong :o I've never seen Satori

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all im saying is he's a handsome man. He needs the LEO to roam more freely and oppress the cancer moon. It's not like he's a sack of coal...

Lol

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Posted by CluelessCancer
You're like a 8 and she's like a 6.

dude you underestimate yourself.

What?! Lol

if he was a celebrity he'd get an 8. dimples. Manly features. Ageing nicely. Cancer moon Face.

That explains my confusion. I think most celebrities are average looking. I don't look at too many celebrities, though.

I do see the soft cancer features. 🙂

Yes well i'm being extra nice. I did pad in there. He has a super friendly warm face. He's no runaway model, but he would DO.

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Totally agree with super friendly warm face.

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She looks like an older version of Satori. All scorpio women look alike.

Maybe I need to look at more scorpio women? Or maybe you're wrong :o I've never seen Satori

she's beautiful. But has the same facial features. Scorpio women have a similar look

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I guess I never noticed....

Have you seen my picture?

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She looks like an older version of Satori. All scorpio women look alike.

Maybe I need to look at more scorpio women? Or maybe you're wrong :o I've never seen Satori

she's beautiful. But has the same facial features. Scorpio women have a similar look

I guess I never noticed....

Have you seen my picture?

No

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I have an eyeball on my profile... And one of me and my man...

Posted by PaLeo
Of course I did! She's the best person for me. Like I said, things are/were fine and I'm just trying to get some insight as to whether I was possibly communicating poorly or not doing the things she needed me to be doing, since she wasn't giving out the information herself through direct questioning. As it was pointed out, I'm probably laying a guilt trip unintentionally.

OK correct me if I'm wrong here, did you not say she's never at home and is distant from you?

If so, how are things fine?

Stop blaming yourself! It takes 2 to make a relationship work and if one isn't participating then it isn't fine as you say.

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She reminds me of Lindsay Davenport.

You're right.

Couldn't place it...but yeah.

It was either that or Katherine Heigl, but Heigl has changed her face I think. Looks different in so many pictures.

I can see that as well.

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I see that too. Picture her with blonde hair and it's her doppelganger!!

I don't think Scorp women all have the same features. Wasn't there a thread ages ago about us looking like pixies or something??

She's pretty and I'm not even into women! He's sweet as though, yeah, I'd do him, must be those dimples! 😉